Advanced ship technology

[_stovokor_]

I intend on joining the federation, so lets say for example i want to inter grade cloaking technology our something maybe even with in federation guidelines, could i add foreign technologies?

[Reinkaos]

I would guess this might be a perk of specialising in Engineering, personally.

But besides, Cryptic have said that the Federation will have cloaking technology.

[J.L.Picard]

I would guess this might be a perk of specialising in Engineering, personally.

But besides, Cryptic have said that the Federation will have cloaking technology.


this fact makes me so sad. its STUPID, eveytime they come up with another of these stupid ideas it breaks my heart. Federation dont have cloak for a reason and that is notbeacause of a lack of technology, lets not forget the Phase Cloak TNG, If federation aare over it means one of two things the federation is at war with Romulans OR they are now allies either way its moronic since they have said the only 2 factions are Klingons/Fed.

[k.mpok]

this fact makes me so sad. its STUPID, eveytime they come up with another of these stupid ideas it breaks my heart. Federation dont have cloak for a reason and that is notbeacause of a lack of technology, lets not forget the Phase Cloak TNG, If federation aare over it means one of two things the federation is at war with Romulans OR they are now allies either way its moronic since they have said the only 2 factions are Klingons/Fed.

Not to mention but it also breaks from Roddenberry's image of what Star Trek and more importantly who or better yet what the Federation wasn't.

[Volomon]

Can anyone link a source for this Fed cloak thing? Cause I haven't heard about it before.

[k.mpok]

Can anyone link a source for this Fed cloak thing? Cause I haven't heard about it before.

I good post on the topic and a link to the source if I remember.

Clicky Click (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=8755&highlight=Federation+cloak)

[The_Fred]

There were a few cases of the Federation useing cloaks. Like when the Defiant sneaked behind enemy lines and blew up a few small stations.

[k.mpok]

There were a few cases of the Federation useing cloaks. Like when the Defiant sneaked behind enemy lines and blew up a few small stations.

A few cases yes, 2 in normal time/space.

The Defiant, approved while being supervised by the Romulan Star Empire only in the Gamma quadrant, and The Pegasus, a dark covert ops that leaves a bad taste in Rikers mouth due to the fact of it being very shady and against a Federation treaty.

There was a reason that Roddenberry did not give the Federation cloaking as it was against his image of what Star Fleet stood for.

[DFawkes]

There were a few cases of the Federation useing cloaks. Like when the Defiant sneaked behind enemy lines and blew up a few small stations.

That was with a borrowed cloaking device. I still have no doubt that, without that stupid treaty, the Federation would've had no problem developing a cloak, especially given the timescale of STO.

I do like the theme you're following though. What if you defeat a Borg Cube and take parts of their shield generators to develop adaptive shielding? Or encounter a race with transwarp and take their engines? I'm sure this would all happen later on in the game if it did, but it does open up some interesting possibilities.

[joseramon]

I dislike too much the idea of the Federation using cloacking technology, because that is not the way the UFP do things in the galaxy, and if Cryptic lets everyone on Fed to use those devices on their ships...i have one more reason to choose Klingon side instead, because that is not the Fed i will like to play.

[marscentral]

A few cases yes, 2 in normal time/space.

The Defiant, approved while being supervised by the Romulan Star Empire only in the Gamma quadrant, and The Pegasus, a dark covert ops that leaves a bad taste in Rikers mouth due to the fact of it being very shady and against a Federation treaty.

There was a reason that Roddenberry did not give the Federation cloaking as it was against his image of what Star Fleet stood for.

Did he (Roddenberry) ever actually say that? Or is it more likely that they didn't want their heroes to just be able to turn on the cloaking device and run away whenever they were in trouble? I don't believe (but I don't know and won't claim to speak for someone I never met) that Roddenberry's vision of the Federation included deliberately gimping yourself just so that you don't look sneaky in front of even sneakier races.

[Burchenall]

I intend on joining the federation, so lets say for example i want to inter grade cloaking technology our something maybe even with in federation guidelines, could i add foreign technologies?
From what I've read Cryptic has only commented the possibility of adding to your crew species discovered during your explorations, but they haven't talked about this level of ship customization...

[Nytok]

I feel that the Klingons can have as much cloaking as they want. But to give Federation ships cloak just doesn't sit well with me. C'mon, why does a Fed ship need cloak anyways and captains have always found a way to beat another ship in cloak. Not to mention, the Federation is extremely diplomatic not warlike. Why would they have a tool that has only offensive abilities and greet another race by coming out of cloak. It doesn't exactly fit if it's the Federation. The Confederacy is a different matter, but I would only like that to come up in a story mission (being able to play the Confederacy just doesn't make sense).

[Father_Origin]

Cryptic say feds have cloak....ok, could be 1 or 2 reasons for it.

1. The Romulars are at war with the federation....that makes the treaty nil and void

or

2. The Romulans and the Federation rewrote the treat for some reason? ..to help the feds
fight the borg, which helps the romulans..who are also fighting the borg.

[Taka67]

Yeah, I sort of thought cloaking technology was a treaty violation...then again, maybe that's a treaty that has been discarded. But still, from a gaming standpoint, having the cloak will be a nice perk to the Klingon and the future Romulan factions. Of course, this will need to be balanced by whatever goody or ability the Federation will receive to compensate.

[_stovokor_]

That was with a borrowed cloaking device. I still have no doubt that, without that stupid treaty, the Federation would've had no problem developing a cloak, especially given the timescale of STO.

I do like the theme you're following though. What if you defeat a Borg Cube and take parts of their shield generators to develop adaptive shielding? Or encounter a race with transwarp and take their engines? I'm sure this would all happen later on in the game if it did, but it does open up some interesting possibilities.

This is what I meant, for one i disagree on federation not being able to cloak it seems completely freezable that with the games plot and how only one side will have cloak also take in account how some unfair players will be abble to completely rape you with cloak. Any ways I was wondering about inter grading other species engines , weapons, outer hull parts, and scraping the rest of there ship for resources

[Reinkaos]

This is what I meant, for one i disagree on federation not being able to cloak it seems completely freezable that with the games plot and how only one side will have cloak also take in account how some unfair players will be abble to completely rape you with cloak. Any ways I was wondering about inter grading other species engines , weapons, outer hull parts, and scraping the rest of there ship for resources

The Federation have cloaking technology anyway, their interphase cloaking device. Remove the Interphase part as that didn't work so well, and there you go :p

As for retrofitting alien technology, I believe personally that'll be a perk of specialising in Engineering or science or something. I also hope it will have its downsides, if it were to happen.

[Reinkaos]

also take in account how some unfair players will be abble to completely rape you with cloak.

A good player who knows his ship's limits and abilities, and has a good grasp of tactics, will be able to "rape" you regardless of cloak :)

[zigzig]

I think that _stovokor_ guy with the Lt.Ayala avatar is really smart.

[divittc]

I'm hoping to see advanced weapons other than cloaks. The series finale of Voyager had transphasic torpedos, and ablative shieling. The series finale of TNG had a phaser cannon that made short work of Negh'Var. I would be very disapointed if there weren't at least references to these technologies. It is supposed to be 30 years after Nemisis after all.

[Asmodien]

They way I see it you might be able to get advance tech from pve missions and from engeineers through crafting. Advance Tech should upgrade your systems but not be too over powering, now I dont know if advance tech will commonly aviable or reserved for veteran players, I would go with having it hard to be obtain to keep the game from getting tech crazy.

[z28wanted]

If the Federation does have cloak I think it should be integrated with certain ship classes (I.E. Defiant). Kind of like in WoW where certain classes have a stealth feature (I.E. Rogues and Druids). Or maybe as an upgrade you can get from an engineering talent tree, like a couple others have mentioned. I think considering the storyline takes place in a more perilous time this could make sense for the Federation to decide that it was necessary. There have been precedents in real life for this, (atomic bomb, etc..) so it is possible in the Star Trek Universe, in my opinion.

[Ray312]

If the Klingons have Cloak, theres an obvious solution, something that detects their cloak, if you think about it, cloak uses up energy. So would the scanners. It counters eachother. And after you have a confirmed scan, you should be able to send a bolt of energy that disrupts their cloak without them knowing. They still think their cloaked, but they are completly visible, so cloaking now has a downside for both sides.

[callsign11b]

come on cloak ships for federation you guys are spelling out a certain ship certain time frame.
no way Federation should not have cloaking ships other than what canon has done defiant for ds9.
The cloak was developed for game balance between the romulans and klingons against the federation.
It like saying all klingon ships should have same weapons damage and range as the federation and shilds and sensors all the same. whats the point it would be like playing fed against fed just a different looking ship.
I know you get a cloak but the klingons and remains can frire there weapons while cloaked.
if the thinking is well the federation had a couple of ships that did it could cloak so we should all have it.
well the klingons had a bird of prey that could fire when cloaked so all the klingons should have it.
If you want a cloaked ship then join up with the klingons and the romulans when they are added to the game.
:mad:

[Reinkaos]

It makes sense that cloaking for Feds is only available if you spec for it, i.e if you specialise as a Captain in ship design (basically Engineering) like Sisko.

[cocoa-jin]

I'd only accept mixed faction duct-tape rigging of equipment if it operate less efficiently, less effectivly and had an increase in failures on other faction vessels. In addition, the item should have a limited life expectancy on another faction vessel. All these variables would be influenced by the effectivness of your head engineer officer, engineering crew and overall crew rating/effectivness.