Cryptic is in the right for not wasting time building this for a MAC

[Talamakara]

Like the title says. Thank you to cryptic for not wasting their time and money is building a good game and then poring it to a PoS mac.

[usernamepasswordg]

Like the title says. Thank you to cryptic for not wasting their time and money is building a good game and then poring it to a PoS mac.

I'm pretty sure this thread does not belong here.

I do have a mac but I can dual boot to XP to play this so why even bring this thread up at all?

[bobh]

another failing TROLL

[Talamakara]

actually in this case i wasn't asking for anyone opinion i was simply thanking cryptic.

I believe we are allowed to do that.

[Kinjiru]

Reported for trolling and attacking community members.

This forum is to discuss Star Trek online, not your personal computer preferences.

[usernamepasswordg]

Reported for trolling and attacking community members.

This forum is to discuss Star Trek online, not your personal computer preferences.

Second that.

[KO_Gilligan]

actually in this case i wasn't asking for anyone opinion i was simply thanking cryptic.

I believe we are allowed to do that.

Thanking Cryptic for not wasting their time? I dunno sems rather mean spirited and condescending

....but once you decided to bash MAC in the post, this thread just became useless flame bait.

[Talamakara]

Reported for trolling and attacking community members.

This forum is to discuss Star Trek online, not your personal computer preferences.

If you consider this attacking wait till i get access to a set of phaser arrays lol

[bobh]

If you consider this attacking wait till i get access to a set of phaser arrays lol


This explains it all.... I thought you were a Klingon?

[Talamakara]

This explains it all.... I thought you were a Klingon?

lol I'll be who ever I feel like being lol But if your going on my picture and comment, the "bird of prey" actually had it's first as romulan not klingon and it takes more than something as simple to insult me :P

[Threepointfiveoftwo]

LOL yeah lets focus on a platform that crashes and is virus filled and a pile of crap too boot, hmm my mac hasnt crashed.... ever...

i own both macs and pcs i like both for different things, but see how easy it is for the mac owners to bash your precious pc? this was a pretty sad attempt to start a flame war over computer prefference. if your gonna flame maybe you should go to the WoW forums?

[Talamakara]

LOL yeah lets focus on a platform that crashes and is virus filled and a pile of crap too boot, hmm my mac hasnt crashed.... ever...

i own both macs and pcs i like both for different things, but see how easy it is for the mac owners to bash your precious pc? this was a pretty sad attempt to start a flame war over computer prefference. if your gonna flame maybe you should go to the WoW forums?

Again I must be forced to educated.
Security - "mac has better security from virus's and spyware." Why because there are far fewer people who know how to program in the same language that the mac is built on than there is people who know how to code in windows (now c code). If 30 years ago MAC had become the world leader in computers it would be PC's that would be more secure because no one would know C code to program stuff able to affect windows.
So really the true answer is "no macs are not more secure than windows" but are less prone to attack.

and i repeat i was not making this post to insult anyone or ask for anyone's opinion. I was simply thanking cryptic.

[Foxstab]

Oh, for the love of Vint Cerf...


Mods, can't we please cut down on these needless hate threads?

I'm a strict PC guy, but come on...these kind of threads have absolutely no room here.

Requesting thread lockup!

[KO_Gilligan]

LOL yeah lets focus on a platform that crashes and is virus filled and a pile of crap too boot, hmm my mac hasnt crashed.... ever...

i own both macs and pcs i like both for different things, but see how easy it is for the mac owners to bash your precious pc? this was a pretty sad attempt to start a flame war over computer prefference. if your gonna flame maybe you should go to the WoW forums?

HUH?

Was that an attempt at not flaming..... Epic Fail

[JSM3050]

actually in this case i wasn't asking for anyone opinion i was simply thanking cryptic.

I believe we are allowed to do that.Yes, you're allowed to express your feelings regarding how Cryptic is handling Star Trek Online. However, your tone could easily be taken as hostile to members of the community.

[Talamakara]

Yes, you're allowed to express your feelings regarding how Cryptic is handling Star Trek Online. However, your tone could easily be taken as hostile to members of the community.

That could just as easly be done as me saying "I hate blue I thing red nacelle's would be better" It's really a matter of how thick your skin is. Personally I take no offense to anything thrown at me here .

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razor, I Summon Thee

[KO_Gilligan]

Again I must be forced to educated.
Security - "mac has better security from virus's and spyware." Why because there are far fewer people who know how to program in the same language that the mac is built on than there is people who know how to code in windows (now c code). If 30 years ago MAC had become the world leader in computers it would be PC's that would be more secure because no one would know C code to program stuff able to affect windows.
So really the true answer is "no macs are not more secure than windows" but are less prone to attack.

and i repeat i was not making this post to insult anyone or ask for anyone's opinion. I was simply thanking cryptic.

If I'm not mistaken MAC fell first at the latest CANSECWEST.

[Talamakara]

If I'm not mistaken MAC fell first at the latest CANSECWEST.

It's possible, i haven't paid that much attecntion, but really it would makes sense if someone actually knew what they were doing and built a "mac virus" or what ever I mean how many anti-virus programs are there to protect macs.

Actually I looked it up , there are a few out there but from what i'm reading most "mac sales people" believe they are snake oil and meant just for companies to make a profit, no clue on the reality of who is right or wrong.

[JSM3050]

It's possible, i haven't paid that much attention, but really it would makes sense if someone actually knew what they were doing and built a "mac virus" or what ever I mean how many anti-virus programs are there to protect macs.There's a couple of anti-virus programs for Apple computers out there. If you want a look at Mac OS security, try SecureMac.com (http://www.securemac.com/).

There are a couple of reasons why we haven't seen a lot of viruses developed for the Mac OS. The first is that the Mac OS is based off Unix (same as Linux). I think that part speaks for itself. The second is that Apple has never had a huge market share so it's never presented a large target. Would you spend your time writing a virus that's only going to affect 10% (at best) of computers?

[KL0k]

LOL yeah lets focus on a platform that crashes and is virus filled and a pile of crap too boot, hmm my mac hasnt crashed.... ever...

i own both macs and pcs i like both for different things, but see how easy it is for the mac owners to bash your precious pc? this was a pretty sad attempt to start a flame war over computer prefference. if your gonna flame maybe you should go to the WoW forums?

hm, i had several crashes with a mac when i was working at a office, i think about 3-4 times with an early version of adobes programs, and a complete freeze till i rebooted it the hardway..
so.. thats happening on both sides..

/ps: think that was an old powermac, but im not so much into apple, so i could be completly wrong about its hardware.

[NightWatcher]

First let me say this. I don't like macs, I by far prefer pc's but I don't think it's fair to bash another platfor on a forum like this. I have both and I don't really use the mac for anything(it was given to me) but I think that mac users deserve to experience STO just as much as you do. as for trying not to flame I must say :::EPIC FAIL:::

[Talamakara]

There's a couple of anti-virus programs for Apple computers out there. If you want a look at Mac OS security, try SecureMac.com (http://www.securemac.com/).

There are a couple of reasons why we haven't seen a lot of viruses developed for the Mac OS. The first is that the Mac OS is based off Unix (same as Linux). I think that part speaks for itself. The second is that Apple has never had a huge market share so it's never presented a large target. Would you spend your time writing a virus that's only going to affect 10% (at best) of computers?

If i was into making virus's and i could claim i made one that shut down even 5% let alone 10% it would be something to be considered an accomplishment. Thought on the flip side i'm sure you'd have the cops on your door.

[Roy_Vash]

Still looking for that lock, Razor.

[jfolden]

Like the title says. Thank you to cryptic for not wasting their time and money is building a good game and then poring it to a PoS mac.

I don't want to point fingers or try to put words in your mouth, but if you think about it, the "PoS" comment could be taken as being intentionally inflamatory. That is supposing that PoS still means what I think it means. But I have been known to be wrong on occasion, (and by occasion, of course I mean usually) so if I have mistaken your intent I apologize. Not trying to be the board nanny or anything, I am new to posting here, but there isn't any reason why we can't express our opinions here without stepping on the toes of other people, right? :):)

[iPond317]

Like the title says. Thank you to cryptic for not wasting their time and money is building a good game and then poring it to a PoS mac.

Go back to your cave, troll. Nice grammar by the way.

[iPond317]

If 30 years ago MAC had become the world leader in computers...

The company is Apple and the hardware is the Mac. Why is it so hard for people to understand this?


and i repeat i was not making this post to insult anyone or ask for anyone's opinion. I was simply thanking cryptic.

No, you were trying to flame. But if you weren't trying to insult anyone or ask anyone's opinion, why say anything at all? Email the devs.

[Cryptic_Fan_101]

Nerd Fight!

[mezlabor]

LOL yeah lets focus on a platform that crashes and is virus filled and a pile of crap too boot, hmm my mac hasnt crashed.... ever...

i own both macs and pcs i like both for different things, but see how easy it is for the mac owners to bash your precious pc? this was a pretty sad attempt to start a flame war over computer prefference. if your gonna flame maybe you should go to the WoW forums?

Macs crash even the new ones. I'v had epic crashes worse then windows with a mac. A non responsive program in osx takes the whole os down with it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqKNNLadj_M theres a video of people dealing with their mac Crashes. I've had 5 or 6 windows pcs and never had crashes as bad as those. At least when a Windows pc crashes I can open the task manager and close the program. I have to restart the entire pc when a mac program goes down.

Mac is no more inherently secure then windows is. Its based off the unix kernel which does have viruses and can be exploited. As has been stated before its not as prevalent because of the market share. just wait till Mac winds up with 25% or more of the market share. I bet if they do gain ground you'll see security problems on mac worse then windows who've had to deal with malware alot more then Apple has.

[Polaron]

1/10. I've seen better trolling on Fark.

And as a filmmaker, I have to say: your opinion sucks. Macs rule. That is all.

[mezlabor]

You cant upgrade a mac either. Or mod it or build one yourself or fix it yourself when something goes wrong.

edit Unless you spend over 10 grand on a macpro

[walltar]

IBTL :D

This should be locked.

[mattlewis53]

I own a PC made by Apple, and it's called a MacBook Pro. It has an intel processor and an nvidia graphics card....so it's both. I just have the advantage of having MacOSX and Windows, so your attempt to insult me is irrelevant.

[Jastify]

I have a Mac. And I'm not going to play this game, unless it's going to be better than excellent. Because only really good game can make me sacrifice 30-50 GB's of my internal Hard Drive. Nay, i can play the game only in home (I possess only a notebook, if you didn't guessed it yet) by installing Windows on external Hard Drive... Or i can buy a new computer only for this game, i am rich and stupid enough to do this, ain't i? Yea... But i am not going to do this, because i am an adept of Cult of Mac... And you ain't getting my money just yet...

P.S. Please, make this game for Mac OS 10, mkay?

[usernamepasswordg]

Nerd Fight!

Indeed......

[Talamakara]

I don't want to point fingers or try to put words in your mouth, but if you think about it, the "PoS" comment could be taken as being intentionally inflamatory. That is supposing that PoS still means what I think it means. But I have been known to be wrong on occasion, (and by occasion, of course I mean usually) so if I have mistaken your intent I apologize. Not trying to be the board nanny or anything, I am new to posting here, but there isn't any reason why we can't express our opinions here without stepping on the toes of other people, right? :):)

no, i meant PoS as a personal opinion not direct attack on anyone's choices

Go back to your cave, troll. Nice grammar by the way.

lol not my first concern as long as my point is made

The company is Apple and the hardware is the Mac. Why is it so hard for people to understand this?

No, you were trying to flame. But if you weren't trying to insult anyone or ask anyone's opinion, why say anything at all? Email the devs.

Yes but all advertisements put MAC in big letters there for most people will recognize "mac" before they recognize "apple"

Nerd Fight!

No a nerd has glasses, pocket protectors and reads alot, I'm a geek get it right lol

1/10. I've seen better trolling on Fark.

And as a filmmaker, I have to say: your opinion sucks. Macs rule. That is all.

Ok this is for everyone, this reference will be meant as a flame.

really?? your a filmmaker and you aren't willing to use more powerful tools that are at your disposal? No wonder your on here and not working in Hollywood.

[mezlabor]

I started a thread to continue mac vs pc debates http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=165889#post165889 here. Lets try and keep the main forum about sto. Hate on mac all you want in the thread I started for people to hate on mac/pc

[usernamepasswordg]

Nerds are simply angry geeks and since you wanted people to call you geek then you are for sure a nerd.

P.S. They removed some of our posts and you never replied to what I posted.

[JSM3050]

Still looking for that lock, Razor.On a Saturday? Are you kidding me? We probably won't see any moderating housecleaning done before Monday.

Just stop posting in the thread, guys. Real simple solution and it doesn't require a moderator locking the thread.

[usernamepasswordg]

it doesn't require a moderator locking the thread.

What's the fun in that?

[Polaron]

really?? your a filmmaker and you aren't willing to use more powerful tools that are at your disposal? No wonder your on here and not working in Hollywood.

Unless you're capable of telling me the differences and strength/weakness comparison between Final Cut and AVID, you're talking out of your warp nacelles.

[Rattletrap]

-Y'all do realize if you keep feeding them they'll keep coming back.

Rattletrap

[usernamepasswordg]

-Y'all do realize if you keep feeding them they'll keep coming back.

Rattletrap

You get it. You win!

[lumpking69]

If there is a market and reason to export the game to other platforms and operation systems im sure it will be done.

[STOZone]

Like lump's sig says, don't feed the tribbles.

[Cuddles]

Like lump's sig says, don't feed the tribbles.

Otherwise you end up with me.

And that's just problematic.

[jfolden]

Otherwise you end up with me.

And that's just problematic.

Your avatar wins.

[Talamakara]

I started this off thanking cryptic I was never picking fights or asking for oppinions. Thought I'll never deny I keeping something going,but for now i'm heading out, have fun.

[Admiral_Perseus]

Wow, this thread does seriously need some locking. However, I can see where the dude with the BoP gets his.....erm.......thoughts. I mean, We want game NOW!!!! Face it, most people use PC's. Taking the time to cater to the smaller percentage of users just doesn't make sense.However, Immedietly after the realease of the PC version, I do foresee Cryptic developing a MAC version.

[mezlabor]

Wow, this thread does seriously need some locking. However, I can see where the dude with the BoP gets his.....erm.......thoughts. I mean, We want game NOW!!!! Face it, most people use PC's. Taking the time to cater to the smaller percentage of users just doesn't make sense.However, Immedietly after the realease of the PC version, I do foresee Cryptic developing a MAC version.

I dont if they plan to license with Microsoft closely for the xbox 360. If this winds up with a "Games for Windows" sticker on it you can bet it wont ever see a mac release.

[wolfinstne]

I to have a mac that i can dumb down to run pc versions of software.

[ianobs]

regardless of the validity of the thread it's still kind of funny. i enjoy a good mac flame as much as the next uber god pc user. as we look down at you puny mac users from out thrones upon high. and blow snot rockets in your general direction

[iPond317]

Reported for trolling and attacking community members.

This forum is to discuss Star Trek online, not your personal computer preferences.

Ditto. Reported for trolling.

[walltar]

I started this off thanking cryptic I was never picking fights or asking for oppinions. Thought I'll never deny I keeping something going,but for now i'm heading out, have fun.

I hope he headed out of forums. :D

[KO_Gilligan]

Aren't Macs a little too fashion conscious?
When I heard that we were running OS X on regular PCs now, i was thinking, thank god, I hope people everywhere are running it in tall creme colored square box cases with big thumb screws and lots of empty drive bays.

... and my PC never crashes, but I do frequently sniff the exhaust to make sure everything is running OK :rolleyes:

[TheMasterpiece]

Like the title says. Thank you to cryptic for not wasting their time and money is building a good game and then poring it to a PoS mac.




im assuming u have windows, in which case you shouldnt care if it comes out for a mac after u can play it.

[boydyma]

well i guess ive earnt my +1 for teh amount fo liquid faeces ive just had to read.


my two cents worth?

if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say it. if it is going to offend someone and you KNOW it will; you appear to be inteligent, stop pretending to be otherwise. THEN KEEP IT TO YOURSELF!

flip side.

dont feed the animals. they just get hungrier and more bad tempered. best to just shoot them in teh head with a 12 gauge.... twice.... kinda like zombies... OR let the thread die,

this post should be teh last one in this thread as long as inteligence wins the day.

[vwachter2]

This thread and its title are a little too troll-ish for my tastes. Closing it.