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ffofy
08-18-2008, 08:39 PM
They should add in Remans as enemy bots or something, they make bad ass ships, like in Nemesis :D

Captain-Picard
08-18-2008, 08:44 PM
Good idea.

PraetorianHistorian
08-18-2008, 08:47 PM
They should add in Remans as enemy bots or something, they make bad ass ships, like in Nemesis :D

I have to wonder if, because of what happened in Nemesis, the Romulans started cracking down on the Remans again. Perhaps sending them back to the Dilithium mines and subjugating them even further.

CarlR
08-18-2008, 08:48 PM
well we only saw 1 ship which they made, and i have a feeling that was like a super battleship and 1 of a kind... i doubt they'd make another as i'm pretty sure it took a looong time to make, and was pretty costly

LebowskyBob
08-18-2008, 08:52 PM
I imagine the Romulans would have had a great deal of interest in building more Scimitar-class ships...minus the Thelaron device...so if the Remans will have built more it will have only been for the Romulan fleet and not for their own I would imagine. Its 30 yrs later, however...so if the Romulans picked up the class for their own use, there will likely be several running around...but by the time in which ST:O takes place they would no longer be state-of-the-art anyhow. (likewise, sadly, with the Sovereign and Negh'Var classes I bet)

CarlR
08-18-2008, 08:54 PM
ya good points... was forgetting the 30 year span lol

ffofy
08-18-2008, 08:57 PM
Well let's say Shinzon's revolt inspired the rest of the Remans on Remus to formulate an escape of their own and find another home world, then years later the Alpha Quadrant finds that the Remans have formed a vast Empire and planning the destruction of the Romulans.

CarlR
08-18-2008, 08:59 PM
POssible, but without an allready built fleet they would easily and quickly be subdued by the ROmulans i think... The council may be out of order, but the Military, Talshiar and Ships are still fully functinal... and i doubt any of those elements would let a valuable work force just get up and leave.

PraetorianHistorian
08-18-2008, 09:01 PM
Well let's say Shinzon's revolt inspired the rest of the Remans on Remus to formulate an escape of their own and find another home world, then years later the Alpha Quadrant finds that the Remans have formed a vast Empire and planning the destruction of the Romulans.

Far fetched. Remans don't have a fleet of their own. They're pretty much going to be stuffed back into the Dilithium mines are turned into cannon fodder during a ground offensive IMO.

LebowskyBob
08-18-2008, 09:07 PM
POssible, but without an allready built fleet they would easily and quickly be subdued by the ROmulans i think... The council may be out of order, but the Military, Talshiar and Ships are still fully functinal... and i doubt any of those elements would let a valuable work force just get up and leave.

I believe that on Romulus...a new government coming to power rather suddenly is generally a common occurance...they would probably be able to re-establish the Senate rather quickly...and whichever of Admiralty had the most influence with the military would likely become the new Praetor....so the power vacuum on Romulus would have been rather brief.

worst case scenario...the Star Empire simply becomes the dictatorship in fact, that has been in principle from the beginning :)

NeoWolf
08-18-2008, 09:09 PM
They should add in Remans as enemy bots or something, they make bad ass ships, like in Nemesis :D


I want them playable too as I want one as a sinister medical on the Klingon vessel I have planned for one of my three ships lol

CarlR
08-18-2008, 09:11 PM
my bets on the Tal'Shiar taking over. and ya, i know that it would be rather quick, but during that brief period is where the discussion is for the remans making an escape... which seems to be unlikely though

ffofy
08-18-2008, 09:34 PM
[Snarl]...

I think the Remans have great potential, if they can just get out of the Romulan's grip. I say make a plan to kill the guards in the mines n take their weapons, the Romulans send reinforcements, sneak around them as the majority of the troops leave the ships, kill who's ever left of the ships and get the **** out :D Then leave the Alpha Quadrant and find a solar system that has a class M plant that's dark and no civilization on it. Decommission the Ships except one, and use them to build a small land base on the planet, and use the other ship to mine whatever Dilithium mine is closest. Just keep minding and building. Focus on building a city/military base then a fleet of ships. Because of the Remans are very good at mining and hard working their entire economy progresses fast, therefore they build fast. So eventually they populate the entire planet and have it heavily fortified and have built a small fleet, but because of the sheer size of their ships and weapons capabilities they are more then a match for most ships in Starfleet or the Klingon Empire, one of which is yes the Scimitar. Then they finally make their move, they take a few ships and head back to the Romulas and beat the **** out of them, take control of the planet, and force the entire Empire to surrender. After gaining control they force the remaining Romulan military to fight for them, and the Remans plan on taking over the entire Alpha Quadrant. Then the game takes it from their :)

Yes, it's a lot, but I really like the Remans.

CarlR
08-18-2008, 09:51 PM
lol... if it were that Easy i'm sure the Klingons or Federation woulda thought of it first...

ffofy
08-18-2008, 10:05 PM
I donno, just something. I doubt they'll be playable characters or even be in the game. But if they are I want them to be significant.

NeoWolf
08-18-2008, 11:28 PM
I donno, just something. I doubt they'll be playable characters or even be in the game. But if they are I want them to be significant.

I dont see why they should be "significant".. they were a sub race and ven during the film they were no more a majore threat than any other standard faction has been. Heck a single El Aurian in Generations posed more of a threat to the quadrant than their entire race did in Nemesis. And they sure as heck didnt even come close to being as much of a threat as say the Borg or the Dominion have been.

They are a cool race but they were hardly Super Villains, they were a downtrodden race vying for power. and totally within the remit of being acceptable as a playable race.

Roberto
08-19-2008, 02:26 AM
I think Remens would be fairly cool. Maybe after 30 years they manage to break away to some other world and start a Romulan version of the Maquis. Perhaps they are a harassing force in the quadrant? Perhaps they are instigating attacks - and covering their steps with Romulan technology - furthering an antagonizing scene between the 3 major Alpha powers?

They're a pretty good tool to use for storylines and adding unrest.

onibocho
08-19-2008, 02:34 AM
I believe that on Romulus...a new government coming to power rather suddenly is generally a common occurance...they would probably be able to re-establish the Senate rather quickly...and whichever of Admiralty had the most influence with the military would likely become the new Praetor....so the power vacuum on Romulus would have been rather brief.

worst case scenario...the Star Empire simply becomes the dictatorship in fact, that has been in principle from the beginning :)

Hoooboy! You should read my thread. "The state of the Alpha and Beta quadrants-a speculation". This fits right in.

HugoVN
08-19-2008, 01:56 PM
In all the books this is what happens to the Remens to my understanding. After the attempted overthrow of the the government, most Remans even the ones that weren't part of the cou, no longer felt safe in the Romulan empire. The Remans were looking for somewhere to go and asked the federation, cause who else would take them in right? But taking in the Remans would really anger the Romulans and we are trying to keep them happy. We knew they had to go somewhere cause they didn't deserve the fate that they'd suffer at the hands of the Romulans. We work out a deal with the klingons that they'd take in all those refugees. And they did and settled them on a planet. And again this is just from my understanding. maybe I'll read some of the books again cause it seems like important info. if anyone else knows the story better please clarify.
If you want to hypothesis about the Remans, put them with the klingons cause that be sweet. Klingons and Remans both hate the Romulans and aren't always fond of the Federation, both warriors and might actual respect each other. like how a big brother respects the puny lil brother. In 30 years this could developpe into something really cool. So far the klingons aren't diverse enough. And there'd still be Remans in the Romulan Empire (for whenever they become playable) because not all of them would of been able to escape before the Romulan empire got itself back together.

HugoVN
08-19-2008, 02:36 PM
I have a thread about ^^^ that idea called Remans and the Klingon Empire (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=6074&highlight=remans)

Trekkie
08-19-2008, 07:35 PM
For some reason, I think that Remans would be an interesting adversary for higher-level (or more experienced) characters to defeat. I agree that combat against one of the Reman ships would be excellent!