Voyager Tech

[Drake1444]

Remember the armor and weapons that Voyager found during the last episodes? Do you think they'll be in the game? I wouldn't mind seeing that hull armor or the slipstream.

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nah it would be like too easy maybe as a damn expansive tech to buy

[Signal]

Yep. At least I think so. If it was on the shows, it's canon, and Cryptic can use it. Combat is going to be a big deal in STO, so the more kinds of armor/weapons/shields they have, the better.

[USS_Parallax]

By the time this game takes place I don't think those weapons and armor things are that impressive anymore.

[Buzz_McCool]

Considering that the Borg would probably have had time to study the effects of the armour and weapons odds are they would no longer be as effective.

[HugoVN]

I donno, I haven't herd of the armor or transphasic torpedoes any of the post nemesis books, It'd be cool upgrades for ships . but i just get the feeling that its something thats not gonna be persued in the star trek world.

[Drake1444]

By the time this game takes place I don't think those weapons and armor things are that impressive anymore.

That's true, but just the manner in which the armor is deployed is very impressive and would really look cool as part of the game play.

[jokersbigdude12]

Curious about the trans warp tech Voyager picked it up in the Delta Quad don't you think that Star Fleet would have the time examine it and supply it to the other ships.

[USS_Parallax]

The Transwarp stuff is one of the more floopy parts of Voyager. There's really no reason why after Voyager alone almost mastering the technology (almost) that the whole Federation couldn't figure it out by 2409.

[Allardyn]

Will be interesting how the handle this one.

STO is set in 2409

Future Janeway came from 2404.

I think it is safe to see we could see some of this tech, as far as the armor goes I hope they don't go too overboard I am partial to shields myself and since there was also time travel involved in that tech some may never have existed. What if Voyager was responsible for creating the armor in the 16 years they never spent traveling back to earth.

[TheMasterpiece]

Remember the armor and weapons that Voyager found during the last episodes? Do you think they'll be in the game? I wouldn't mind seeing that hull armor or the slipstream.



It might be a balance issue, i doubt itd be a common place thing on every starfleet ship, and even then you probably shouldnt be able to use it just any time. Perhaps only against the borg.

[Drake1444]

It is a little strange. Starfleet has access to transwarp tech for years and can't get it to work. But the Dominion shows up with all kinds of new tech and they find ways to counter it in a snap. Sometimes I just had to wonder about the people running the Star Trek universe. I mean would it really have so bad for them to have transwarp or new weapons and technology? It would have opened up whole new areas for possible episode ideas.

[jokersbigdude12]

Hopefully in the game they can use this tech (( Trans warp )) To get to the delta Quad to fight the Borg on there own turf ......................... The reason why I say this is that for one it can be a good expansion on the game being in the Delta Quad and Meet other races from that part of the galaxy.

[11710]

Perhaps, as you progress into the game it makes sense that you would get access to more powerful parts for your ship.

[jokersbigdude12]

I was hoping this game would be more like Strek Armada Game thats the best game they came out with so far in my eyes.

[CptKirk]

We really should stay clear of anything Voyager concerning technology... or rather, the way they used it. I was fully expecting someone from the crew to become a Jedi... :p

[Tuvya]

We really should stay clear of anything Voyager concerning technology... or rather, the way they used it. I was fully expecting someone from the crew to become a Jedi... :p

Well one pretty much became godlike, so I guess you were right in your expectations.

And don't even start on Macro virus.

Did they even have a science consultant?

And Janeway herself as a Captain... any military folks out there think she'd get fragged pretty quick in real life? Ooops....friendly fire accident.....

[ZXQ]

The armor was a klingon tech, if anyone remembers.

Not to mention that that time line was pretty much erased the minute Old Janeway went back in time.

Its really up to the devs if they want that armor to re-appear. As of right now, its not even cannon.

[Drake1444]

The armor was a klingon tech, if anyone remembers.

Not to mention that that time line was pretty much erased the minute Old Janeway went back in time.

Its really up to the devs if they want that armor to re-appear. As of right now, its not even cannon.

Klingon tech? I remember the Klingons wanting the armor tech. The tech they had was the tachyon/time travel device.

[Tryonus]

Hey all, this is my first post.

You seem to be under the umpression that all Starfleet ships had this armor and weopon systems Admial Janeway brought from the furture......if this was true then how come Captian Harry Kim didn't have them on his ship when he had to attack the Klingons to defend Admial Janeway? Because Janeway took only the Furture Tech that would help return Voyager to Earth, which included the Armor and weopons and also some sort of Steath Tech which wasn't compatable. But i belive there was other tech included such as new sensors as, before voyager couldn't detect a single Cube due to the radation in the nebula, then after they could detect and lock toepedos onto 2 borg cubes. (the 3rd fell back)

Also everyone is only talking about Transwarp which Starfleet carn't figure out for whatever reason.....but Voyager and her crew was able to "Just About" figure out the SlipStream Drive and used it to knock of a few years of there journy.

So i would truely belive that it would be more likly that you would be able to use SlipStream on your ships rather than TransWarp.

[ZXQ]

Klingon tech? I remember the Klingons wanting the armor tech. The tech they had was the tachyon/time travel device.

whoopsie.

my bad. i think you're right.

My other comments still stand ;)

[Roberto]

Remember the armor and weapons that Voyager found during the last episodes? Do you think they'll be in the game? I wouldn't mind seeing that hull armor or the slipstream.

Do you realize how many millions of people that ****ed off?

[jokersbigdude12]

You know what I meant to say slip stream not trans warp I got them mixed up. As for the armor tech and the torpedo tech I really don't care its pretty cool how they where used against the Borg but it would be a major leg up for the federation against the Klingon's and the Romulus. I only wanted to know in the game about way to get to the Borg. We can not just let the Borg come in to the alpha quad all the time I think we should take the fight to them once in a while and have a chance to explore more of that region of space to.

[Starboard_Nacelle]

When Perpetual Entertainment was still developing ST:O, I think they hinted at unreliable transwarp gates being in use. Did Cryptic preserve this, or are they considering doing something else?

If they are, might I recommend the quantum slipstream drive? You'd think that they'd be able to perfect it in the thirty-one years since Voyager's been back.

[Shadowhand]

That's true, but just the manner in which the armor is deployed is very impressive and would really look cool as part of the game play.

Aye would be a wicked way to animate something like a temporary invulnerability buff or some such

[HugoVN]

When Perpetual Entertainment was still developing ST:O, I think they hinted at unreliable transwarp gates being in use. Did Cryptic preserve this, or are they considering doing something else?

If they are, might I recommend the quantum slipstream drive? You'd think that they'd be able to perfect it in the thirty-one years since Voyager's been back.

I was wondering about that 2. does anyone know if they preserved that part of the story that PE planned?

[darkphoenix]

I heard my partner mention that he saw something about transwarp gates, however I have not been able to confirm that myself.

Personally I loved the end voyager episode, however to avoid potential balance issues I think the armor especially would have to be a temporary/decay over time buff similar to the Defiant's ablative armor.

As for the transphasic torpedoes, maybe they could be a weapon more suited for the Borg (i.e. Borg have low resistance to that type of torpedo vs a standard photon torpedo). So while you could fire them at other species, they wouldn't be as effective as they are vs Borg.

[Necro]

remember just cause it's in the shows doesnt means its something u want in canon for example the enterprise-j in enterprise ;p

[crazyeddie1564]

I would love transwarp, and slipstream to be upgradable techs. After a certain level you can equip your ship with them. They did say you will be able to add parts to your ships to make them your own.

[PattonJ007]

If Starfleet had the "Ablative Hull Armor" as its called in the episode, it would give the Federation an extreme tactical advantage over the Klingons or anyone else for that matter, unless the Klingons had something similar ... but if that were the case then way put the armor in the game in the first place?

And I agree, Voyager had plenty of time to scan and research Arturis's ship, the Dauntless. So whos not to say that starfleet hasnt perfected the Quantum Slipstream Drive?

Id rather see Quantum Slipstream than Transwarp conduits ... but whatever Cryptic does is fine with me as long as they dont take too long :)

[TheMasterpiece]

When Perpetual Entertainment was still developing ST:O, I think they hinted at unreliable transwarp gates being in use. Did Cryptic preserve this, or are they considering doing something else?

If they are, might I recommend the quantum slipstream drive? You'd think that they'd be able to perfect it in the thirty-one years since Voyager's been back.


I think just throwing in some gate for the hell of it where it didnt exist before is anti canon which is something cryptic might not do. It was mentioned specifically canon is very important to this game and theyre using that as their main reference so id doubt we'll see anything just thrown in

[TheMasterpiece]

If Starfleet had the "Ablative Hull Armor" as its called in the episode, it would give the Federation an extreme tactical advantage over the Klingons or anyone else for that matter, unless the Klingons had something similar ... but if that were the case then way put the armor in the game in the first place?

And I agree, Voyager had plenty of time to scan and research Arturis's ship, the Dauntless. So whos not to say that starfleet hasnt perfected the Quantum Slipstream Drive?

Id rather see Quantum Slipstream than Transwarp conduits ... but whatever Cryptic does is fine with me as long as they dont take too long :)



The slipstream is good. thats a piece of technogloy weve seen used in the shows (if only with bad results) and we know it can work and anyone can use it. Plus after all the years voyager and then starfleet in general had to research and implement it that could actually be feasable.

[Dext]

1: Voyager did not find them Old Admral Janeway gave it to Captain Janeway an told them how to get home faster.

2: the Federation would have know about the armor with it on Voyager when they did get home it was on the ship.

3: by now that would be olf Tech an somthing better would be on the ships.

[Drake1444]

This could be a contributing factor to the sour relations between the Federation and the Klingons in STO. The Klingons wanted access to the new technology but Starfleet wouldn't share some of the more advanced stuff. It could be the catalyst that negated the Kitomer accorders.

[Deltab]

from watching the show as you all have, It would appear that the armor and weapons were designed as Voyager was on its way to Earth and then perfected by Star Fleet. So yeah, most likely the armor etc WONT exist because it took the short cut.

That said remember they are going to have transwarp. But they will be transwarp hubs not transwarp ships

[CaptainDaniels]

Hey all, this is my first post.

You seem to be under the umpression that all Starfleet ships had this armor and weopon systems Admial Janeway brought from the furture......if this was true then how come Captian Harry Kim didn't have them on his ship when he had to attack the Klingons to defend Admial Janeway? Because Janeway took only the Furture Tech that would help return Voyager to Earth, which included the Armor and weopons and also some sort of Steath Tech which wasn't compatable. But i belive there was other tech included such as new sensors as, before voyager couldn't detect a single Cube due to the radation in the nebula, then after they could detect and lock toepedos onto 2 borg cubes. (the 3rd fell back)

Also everyone is only talking about Transwarp which Starfleet carn't figure out for whatever reason.....but Voyager and her crew was able to "Just About" figure out the SlipStream Drive and used it to knock of a few years of there journy.

So i would truely belive that it would be more likly that you would be able to use SlipStream on your ships rather than TransWarp.

You raise a good point. The Quantum Slipstream Drive was from Arturis' ship, which he disguised as a Starfleet vessel and lured Voyager into an elaborate trap (but I digress). Since this was, in fact, a new technology that Starfleet had not encountered or discovered before (hence the reaction of the Voyager crew to the different technology), this was likely something that could be researched further by Starfleet.


The quantum slipstream drive is an advanced form of interstellar propulsion that achieved and exceeded what failed Federation attempts using transwarp were meant to do: exceed the warp speed barrier. Originally developed by an advanced species native to the Delta Quadrant, the technology was obtained by the USS Voyager in 2374 and used for an aborted test in early 2375 that nearly destroyed the ship.

The slipstream is a narrowly-focused, directed warp field that is initiated by manipulating the fabric of the space-time continuum at the quantum level. It works by focusing a quantum field through a deflector dish to generate massive changes in local space curvature; this creates a subspace tunnel, which is projected in front of the vessel. Once a ship has entered this tunnel, the forces inside propel it at incredible speed. In order to maintain the slipstream a ship has to constantly modify the quantum field with its deflector dish; however, the calculations involved are too complicated for 24th century Starfleet technology, and the time available is too short before the vessel out-paces the tunnel, collapsing the slipstream.

As for Transphasic torpedoes, those may have been covered up by Starfleet to uphold the Temporal Prime Directive, along with the Ablative Hull Armor Generator, and the sensor upgrades (I am uncertain, however, that Starfleet would do this, because perhaps not everyone knows about the Temporal Prime Directive...)

In any case, I would like to see the armor technology, although since the Borg Queen assimilated the 'Future' (and I put it in quotes because since the timeline was altered, she never would have existed ) Admiral Janeway and her knowledge of the armor and torpedoes, the Borg may have founds ways to adapt. Also, since the Borg somehow keep bringing the Queen back, the likely may have retained that knowledge.

If Starfleet did not cover them up, the Transphasic torpedoes would be a great addition to the wide array of weapons that ships have at their disposal, perhaps in limited quantities or an upgrade when you reach a certain rank?

The bottom line: Armor would be cool as a backup in case shields fail, Transphasic torpedoes perhaps in limited quantities, and the Quantum Slipstream Drive on certain prototype vessels or rescue vessels.

(Although, since this is a while after Voyager arrived back in the Alpha Quadrant, perhaps the technology of the Federation and other races would be advanced to the point where this technology is obsolete? [I]We shall have to see! :D

[Jodocus]

Theory: These weapons and armours were developed as a desperate defense against the powerful ships of the borg. As result, Admiral Janeway was capable of taking these weapons to present time voyager.

Hypothesis: Since the borg were crippled and possibly occupied with rebuilding rather then conquest, the Federation may have instead spent it's resources on exploration and science rather then technology of war. Transphasic torpedoes and deployable thick ablative armour may not be invented yet.

[Allardyn]

In any case, I would like to see the armor technology, although since the Borg Queen assimilated the 'Future' (and I put it in quotes because since the timeline was altered, she never would have existed [I feel a headache coming on over temporal mechanics... "I look forward to it... or should I say backward?" "Don't get started."]) Admiral Janeway and her knowledge of the armor and torpedoes, the Borg may have founds ways to adapt. Also, since the Borg somehow keep bringing the Queen back, the likely may have retained that knowledge.

I like what you posted expect the bolded area,

Quite simply once present Janeway made it back the future Janeway never existed to be assimilated. Thats just has paradox written all over it.

[Omega990]

Defiant had the Ablative armor, any way Star Trek is very hard to have these arguments in with temporal mechanics the way they are........the federation was working on trans warp back in the days of Kirk, scotty just unplugged some stuff from the Excelsior test-bed ship.

[Acelan]

The Transwarp stuff is one of the more floopy parts of Voyager. There's really no reason why after Voyager alone almost mastering the technology (almost) that the whole Federation couldn't figure it out by 2409.

Exaclty, Slipstream drive would be everday technology this many years later. And especially with the advances in deflector, sensors and computer technology, which were the main causes of Voyager's troubles with maintaining the Slipstream itself, the computer and sensors were too SLOW.

[jokersbigdude12]

OK armor and weapons I don't be leave that those weapon would be put on the back burner because of the temporal prime directive sense the Borg assimilated some of it and there connection to each other penetrates sub space that knowledge has been transmitted to other Borg so I figure they will begin improving on the armor and weapons and equipping them to almost every ship.

I got a question can some one tell me the name of that ship that the doctor was beamed to that was a bad ass ship and I hope its in the game. The ship was in the alpha Quad and getting boarded by Romulians.

[Omega990]

USS Prometheus (NX-59650/NX-74913) i really really really really REEEEEEALLY want a Prometheus with Multi-vector Assault mode.

[Suricata]

I'm pretty sure it will be in the game, it takes place in the time period the technology was from afterall. Sure, it was overpowered in Voyager, but it was been used years before its time, with STO taking place 30 years after Nemesis the chances are most ships will have shields capable of holding up to transphasic torpedos as well as having weapons more capable of peircing the ablative armour.

I look at it this way, imagine plaing a FPS game set in 1910 and then add a tank from 1940, it'll be completely overpowered and unstopable, but play an FPs in 1940 and that tank isn't as IMBA anymore :)

[jokersbigdude12]

Yeah that was bad ass do you think it would in game

[Reinkaos]

3: by now that would be olf Tech an somthing better would be on the ships.

Something better than 29th century technology? In the 25th century? :)

[jokersbigdude12]

Does anybody know how much this game is going to be........... I wish I could ask the creator most of these questions........ I don't like guessing not a gambler

[jokersbigdude12]

I would like to have the body of Seven of nine instead of her voice

[Heffa]

Wasn't voyager only able to go trans warp when they stole/found borg trans warp coil.
And didn't (old) janeway her self make that armor to defend against the borg?and old janeway was assimilated by the borg so wouldn't that make the armor useless against the borg in the future?

And what happend with the excelsior trans warp drive?

[jokersbigdude12]

They never could find a trans warp coil worth a flip............... Voyager did use slip stream drive once and a while when they came upon the tech. The ship could not handle the stress of the tech only for a short amount of time.

[Heffa]

I'm more then 100% sure they got atlest 1 working coil. I watched all of voyager a few months back and I remember that.

[Commodore_Smith]

- - Temporal Prime Directive - - None of the tech given to Voyager by future Janeway would be allowed to be further replicated or used in SF. SFC r total rules lawyers :(.

[Reinkaos]

I'm more then 100% sure they got atlest 1 working coil. I watched all of voyager a few months back and I remember that.

It only worked for so long, didn't it?

And didn''t half the bridge crew allow themselves to get turned into Borg to get it? I can't remember how they explained getting out of that one/un-Borgified..

[Reinkaos]

- - Temporal Prime Directive - - None of the tech given to Voyager by future Janeway would be allowed to be further replicated or used in SF. SFC r total rules lawyers :(.

Section 31 aren't ;)

[Gil]

- - Temporal Prime Directive - - None of the tech given to Voyager by future Janeway would be allowed to be further replicated or used in SF. SFC r total rules lawyers :(.
Voyager completely ripped apart that directive and ****ed on it's grave. There's no way the tech isn't used. By the looks of those trailers the torpedoes are transphasic because they're not quantum for sure and why would they use photon?




About the transwarp coil: I just watched those episodes. Yes they borged themselves to get 7 back out after stealing the coil. They also explain that the coil isn't generating the transwarp it's just allowing access to the conduit and keeping the ship in it.
Unless there's a hub keeping the conduit open you need a coil to use the pipes.

[jokersbigdude12]

Yeah your right but they burned most of it out trying to save seven of nine

[jokersbigdude12]

The directive was made for federation space not a ship alone by itself ................. they had to break it once in awhile