Name, Ship Name & Registry

[The_Padre]

I was wondering how our Cryptic going to handle these aspects.

Are we going to have both a first and last name for our player characters?

Will our ship names and registry numbers be separate, will we just enter them in one naming field or will there be separate fields for the name of the ship and the NCC registry number?

[Varrangian]

I was wondering how our Cryptic going to handle these aspects.

Are we going to have both a first and last name for our player characters?

Will our ship names and registry numbers be separate, will we just enter them in one naming field or will there be separate fields for the name of the ship and the NCC registry number?

Some of these things are answered in the post linked in my sig.

They said today that we will be able to choose ship name and designation on our own.

[Sealance]

It would be nice if we could apply for names and registry numbers, and it runs through a database of available names and numbers.. or you could just have a name assigned.

For the sake of being canon, ships and the registries tied to those ships should be bound together, but if I wanted to name a ship the USS Ofra Haza with the registry NCC 1234567 it shouldn't be a problem if its available.

edit: varr beat me to it :)

[staticblue]

I hope we get a first and last name. I would like to use my real name since it's fitting. If I go human that is.
For the ships. You can name them. I'm guessing the numbers will be assigned or you can chose from an available list.

[Reinkaos]

I sure hope I can get the names I want :p

[The_Padre]

Some of these things are answered in the post linked in my sig.

They said today that we will be able to choose ship name and designation on our own.

Yes but it didn't go into too much detail, is it all in one name field or are they in separate fields, for example:

Starship Name USS: Defiant

Starship Registry NCC: 74205

Or is it just one field like:

Starship name and registry: USS Defiant NCC-74205

[Varrangian]

Yes but it didn't go into too much detail, is it all in one name field or are they in separate fields, for example:

Starship Name USS: Defiant

Starship Registry NCC: 74205

Or is it just one field like:

Starship name and registry: USS Defiant NCC-74205

We are roughly 3 years from launch according to Jack. I'd be surprised if this info gets finalized this early.

[Phoenix741]

I like the idea of naming your ship, registry should be given by a computer, that is just me.

[Zizi]

Yes but it didn't go into too much detail, is it all in one name field or are they in separate fields, for example:

Starship Name USS: Defiant

Starship Registry NCC: 74205

Or is it just one field like:

Starship name and registry: USS Defiant NCC-74205

Speaking from a practical stand point of "making it work", I'd expect you'd enter them separately. they'd have to break them apart anyway, since the text isn't one unbroken string on the hull. I know I always lay the two pieces of text separately when I do my texturing.

I'd further expect that to keep canon-valid, you'd be assigned a registry and just pick a name, but that's more of a guess.

[The_Padre]

Speaking from a practical stand point of "making it work", I'd expect you'd enter them separately. they'd have to break them apart anyway, since the text isn't one unbroken string on the hull. I know I always lay the two pieces of text separately when I do my texturing.

I'd further expect that to keep canon-valid, you'd be assigned a registry and just pick a name, but that's more of a guess.

I'd assume in the naming field you'd only get to use letters and in the registry field only numbers.

The USS (IKS for Klingons) and NCC should be assigned by the computer automatically.

[ParkerHayden]

I'm hoping for first and last names too.

And, when it comes to ship names, it should be:

Ship Name - USS/IKS: Enter Name Here

So that people don't accidentally end up with USS USS Explorer or IKS IKS Klingon Name

[TheDart]

I'd assume in the naming field you'd only get to use letters and in the registry field only numbers.

The USS (IKS for Klingons) and NCC should be assigned by the computer automatically.

This is what I'm expecting, as well - particularly since CoX had a built in "The" option to go in front of your hero or villain's name. Even if you typed "The Dart" into the name field, it would toggle on the prefix and reset the name field to "Dart".

Pretty sneaky, sis.

[The_Padre]

This is what I'm expecting, as well - particularly since CoX had a built in "The" option to go in front of your hero or villain's name. Even if you typed "The Dart" into the name field, it would toggle on the prefix and reset the name field to "Dart".

Pretty sneaky, sis.

I'd forgotten about that, yeah it would make it less confusing.

[TheDart]

Note to self: first thing to do should I be accepted into the beta is attempt the ship name "USS USSR" and see how confused the ship namer gets. :p

[The_Padre]

Note to self: first thing to do should I be accepted into the beta is attempt the ship name "USS USSR" and see how confused the ship namer gets. :p

All of your LCars will come out in Russian :p

[TheDart]

I am lookink for the nuclear wessels in the Alaweda!

[Deletham_Tomalak]

NCC Numbers should be order based, almost like a seniority system really. Names for characters and ships names should be totally up to the player (Lets stick with just letters though keep it clean so we dont have USS H@XZ0r).

[TheDart]

Another thought just occurred to me:

There may well be a 'Random' button for ship naming, or at least for registry numbers.

[NeoWolf]

I have to say for myself I hope we can name our own shipsto a point but at the same time I am hoping there will be strict quality control to prevent comedic and nonsense names that imo detract from the enjoyment of the game for others.

It probably wont happen, but im sure others feel like I do and cringe when they see comedy and nonsense names.

I probably only have myself to blame though as maybe due to me coming from a long time Pen and Paper Roleplay background Im kind of in the habit of expecting people to name responsibility and stick the theme of the setting, showing some creativity and consistency within the limits of what has gone before.

Its also probably true that most nonsense names come from those who typically arent familiar with a given setting, are young or just plain dont care for whatever reason.. but it would be nice if they would show a little bit more restraint.

Some people seem to forget that these aren't MMO's they are MMORPG's they have concepts, themes, backgrounds and histories that actually mean something to other people and seeing Captain Codpiece of the USS I-PEE-FREELY registry NCC-342434-C (jessica Albas measurements for those who wonder where I was going with the registry) might give them a momentary giglgle, but for the rest of us who care about the Trek universe its pretty annoying.

so although I want some fredom to pick a name, I for one also want thier to be some pretty stringent quality control.

[HighwayMan]

I've actually written down a few names for ships that'd I'd like. I like all the names I have come up with so I figure if one gets taken then I'll have plenty of alt names to choose from that I like just as much.

As far as the ships number I'm thinking that should be assigned by the computer. Personally the NCC doesn't really matter to me and the only ship that has an NCC that I can remember off the top of my head is Enterprise.

[TheDart]

There will no doubt be a Report Name option once we're all in-game, if you see something that offends you. No worries. :)

[The_Padre]

NCC Numbers should be order based, almost like a seniority system really. Names for characters and ships names should be totally up to the player (Lets stick with just letters though keep it clean so we dont have USS H@XZ0r).

Ships are sometimes arbitrarily numbered in the series though. Most ships in the latter part of the 24th century tended to have numbers between 72000-75000, however different classes of starships would end up with NCC numbers that were not chronological. A ship with NCC-72000 for example may have been a Defiant-class starship, the next Defiant-class could have the registry NCC-71999. Another ship with the registry NCC-72001 could have been a Nebula-class then the next Nebula-class to be built may very well have the registry number NCC-71847.

[Fernos]

I have to say for myself I hope we can name our own shipsto a point but at the same time I am hoping there will be strict quality control to prevent comedic and nonsense names that imo detract from the enjoyment of the game for others.

It probably wont happen, but im sure others feel like I do and cringe when they see comedy and nonsense names.

I probably only have myself to blame though as maybe due to me coming from a long time Pen and Paper Roleplay background Im kind of in the habit of expecting people to name responsibility and stick the theme of the setting, showing some creativity and consistency within the limits of what has gone before.

Its also probably true that most nonsense names come from those who typically arent familiar with a given setting, are young or just plain dont care for whatever reason.. but it would be nice if they would show a little bit more restraint.

Some people seem to forget that these aren't MMO's they are MMORPG's they have concepts, themes, backgrounds and histories that actually mean something to other people and seeing Captain Codpiece of the USS I-PEE-FREELY registry NCC-342434-C (jessica Albas measurements for those who wonder where I was going with the registry) might give them a momentary giglgle, but for the rest of us who care about the Trek universe its pretty annoying.

so although I want some fredom to pick a name, I for one also want thier to be some pretty stringent quality control.

Could not agree more with this, and honestly allowing those type of name will turn off a huge segment of Star Trek fans who may want to play this game but are not necessarily "gamers" SOE/Lucasarts found this out once SWG launched...they discussed it in length at Fanfest 2004, in retrospect they would have enforced a stricter naming policy..but once the Genii was out of the bottle they couldn’t put it back in. There are a lot of ways Cryptic could do this, I'm just doubtful they will bother with it though.

[Deletham_Tomalak]

Very true The_Padre but for the game's purpose it gives players a good idea as to how long a player or ship has been around. People to ask for help and the like. The difference in the show though comes from Gene Roddenberry's idea of a smaller starfleet with only 6 or 7 Galaxy class vessels and in DS9 we see far more than that in one episode. The NCCs numbers are meant to be a sort of serial number according to the TNG Technical Manual.

[NeoWolf]

There will no doubt be a Report Name option once we're all in-game, if you see something that offends you. No worries. :)

The trouble with that system is as follows..

firsly if we report a name violation and they reqest the person change thier name, making it GenericCaptain001 in the meantime for example.. then :-

a) they have acknowledged there was a breach of policy which in my eyes should not have been allowed in the first place because it relies on the gaming community to act responsibly in the first pace, which as we all know a certain portion of, always DON'T..and often a small but very vocal and annoying portion filling channels with endless OCC nonsense and spam (dare I say Chuck Norris convos and screams of LEEROY for example).

and

b such a system only works by those responsible individuals who care about the game to have to wste time they should be spending enjoying the game they love by having to work quality control on the idiots who are blissfully roaming about screaming "Dood I totally PWNED you" and whatnot... (certai generalisations and stereotyping notwithstanding).

Much better that the system set up to begin with prevents such violations from the get go so that we have a game universe that sticks as close in look and theme to what we know as possible.

Yes the game should always emphasise Fun.. but nonsense/comedy names do not equate to "fun" for those of us who care about the setting.

[kip]

i think the registry would be randomized but certain like 1701 (wich would be imposible in 30 year the must be up to 10000)

[The_Padre]

The trouble with that system is as follows..

firsly if we report a name violation and they reqest the person change thier name, making it GenericCaptain001 in the meantime for example.. then :-

a) they have acknowledged there was a breach of policy which in my eyes should not have been allowed in the first place because it relies on the gaming community to act responsibly in the first pace, which as we all know a certain portion of, always DON'T..and often a small but very vocal and annoying portion filling channels with endless OCC nonsense and spam (dare I say Chuck Norris convos and screams of LEEROY for example).

and

b such a system only works by those responsible individuals who care about the game to have to wste time they should be spending enjoying the game they love by having to work quality control on the idiots who are blissfully roaming about screaming "Dood I totally PWNED you" and whatnot... (certai generalisations and stereotyping notwithstanding).

Much better that the system set up to begin with prevents such violations from the get go so that we have a game universe that sticks as close in look and theme to what we know as possible.

Yes the game should always emphasise Fun.. but nonsense/comedy names do not equate to "fun" for those of us who care about the setting.

By this standard all games should remove the ability for you to name your game avatars in the first place. Why should this game be held to a higher standard in this regard above other MMOs.

You're not going to be able to stop people who are determined enough, also if the name isn't offensive or abusive then there's little that can be done.

[NeoWolf]

By this standard all games should remove the ability for you to name your game avatars in the first place. Why should this game be held to a higher standard in this regard above other MMOs.

You're not going to be able to stop people who are determined enough, also if the name isn't offensive or abusive then there's little that can be done.

Not really, as I made the reference in relation to this game because its this game and license we are talking about.

As to the logical answer to "Why should this game be held to a higher standard in this regard above other MMOs." The answer is fairly self explanatory. i.e because nonsense naming spoils the feel of the game and upsets a lot of people.. so WHY make the same mistakes other MMO's have been making instead of using thier oversights as a means to improve the quality of the environemnt for the next MMO, namely THIS one.

As for what can be done it is far from true nothing can be done. It is entirely upto Cryptic what they allow as acceptable naming policy and they can be as relaxed or as strict on the issue as they choose.

My preference as previously stated is that they are a little more stricter than most MMO's and add to the naming violations nonsnse and comedic names and names that are reproductions of existing (Taken) names via the use of spaces and - and various other methods of cpying existing names alreay used.

If they did that, myself and others would be very happy indeed, and those who would normally abuse these kinds of names would actually have to think of something suitable for a change, my goodness lol

[Ryan3932]

I think we will be able to choose a first and last name for our characters. As for being able to pick our own ship names, It would be nice, but we might get people who pick really stupid names e.g. USS Omgurpathetic.

As for the registry, it should be randomized, and it doesn't particularly matter anyways.

If we don't get to pick our own ship names, they will need a very big list of names that can be chosen, I hope they do this and that they hire me as a "namer" rofl cause I'm very good at makin names.

[Trageon]

I have already decided on a name for my vessel and I will be using this character name hopefully it wont be taken by the time the game launches, i would like a StarFleet registry with the NCC precursor if thats possible.

Only thing that worries me as i have seen in all the MMO's i have tried or currently play is the professional resource/currency farmers we will most likely have to suffer with names like sjrdntxytx and such, spamming the galaxies with currency and resources for sale on their websites.

[Saladin_Class]

Each one of my vessels will have names and NNC numbers from TOS History

[Lendosan]

To be fair though (playing devils advocate here) why should a bunch of people who are really INTO Star Trek (like myself) dictate to someone who isn't that his name ism't canon? He pay's his money for the game and he pays his subscription, so Cryptic will only remove offensive names. Your still going to see stupid names because some people are just like that.

I however would LOVE to see them implement a system that stops them using stupid names, but it'll never happen because they pay, just like us.

[Heavensrun]

I have already decided on a name for my vessel and I will be using this character name hopefully it wont be taken by the time the game launches, i would like a StarFleet registry with the NCC precursor if thats possible.

Only thing that worries me as i have seen in all the MMO's i have tried or currently play is the professional resource/currency farmers we will most likely have to suffer with names like sjrdntxytx and such, spamming the galaxies with currency and resources for sale on their websites.

Just imagine that those names represent the diversity of the cultures in the federation. Why, I still remember when the Andorians helped save the Djinbari people from the Zelryxjsi at the battle of Sjrdntxytx.

Seriously, doesn't it seem a little fishy that -all- starfleet vessels seem to have names taken from Earth?

[Shaggz]

I'd like to make my own reg, but if you can't I won't mind. because if it's not random then you'll see a lot of 420, 69, and 1337 references.
The name of course should be our own choosing, filtering out certain words.

[IcarusTyler]

Taken from an older thread (MY thread, actually)

Everyone wants a ship. Luckily, in this game everyone gets a ship. And I will name my ship and form a sort-of relationship to it, as will everybody else. I already have a list of potential shipnames, gathered together from many sources (and yes, Enterprise is on it).

What I'm interested in (and hoping to get an official answer to) are the rules that apply when naming ones vessel, such as

- Will I be able to chose an own name , or will my ship be displayed as Character X's Ship, or will it be given a random name (as in some previous games) ?
- Can the name of my ship consist of several words (plus spaces) or has it to be one word?
- Do names have prefixes (USS-Potemkin) or do they go without it?
- Will my ship automatically have a USS-prefix or can I chose my own one? (HMS, ISS, etc)
- Can names contain only full words or also numbers or other titles? (I hope not, ruins the atmossphere to see Leet_Killer_7)
- If I get a better ship, can I take the name with me to the new one?
- Has the destruction of my ship any consequences on the name? Will I have to rename it or will it become the Defiant-D ?
- Will certain ST-names, like Enterprise, Excelsior or Voyager be locked or can I also chose from these names?
- Can ships have suffixes? (Enterprise-E)
- Is the naming on one's ship to Chatanooga-B restricted when there already is a Chatanooga? I'm sure the original would be kinda ****ed
- Will special vowels be allowed (öüäáàâ), even on the risk on having entire hordes of Èntérprisés?
- Do ship names have to follow ST naming standards or is ROCKSTARKILLER allowed?
- Are there restrictions on the capitalization of letters, or is it posible to spell out the entire name in capitals (I sure hope not)
- Can I name even my smallest beginner-Shuttle or does the ship need to be of a minimum size to deserve a name?

[Trageon]

It's not so much the crazy names people will come up in the RP sense i am trying to relate, but every MMO has it's gold farmers/spammers, if this hold true it will be credit spammers which will ruin the artificial realism for a lot of people including me.

[Von_Schpam]

I don't know about you, but I intend to be flying the most heavily armed Garbage Scow in the Quadrant.




But don't tell my Engineer... or he'll turn your mess hall upside down with you in it.

[Trageon]

I feel ship names like Enterprise, Voyager, Reliant and Defiant and such should be reserved for GM's and Admins to help identify them easier IF it doesn't create a copywrite infringement.

[HighwayMan]

Only thing that worries me as i have seen in all the MMO's i have tried or currently play is the professional resource/currency farmers we will most likely have to suffer with names like sjrdntxytx and such, spamming the galaxies with currency and resources for sale on their websites.

Yeah, that would suck. Hopefully Cryptic will think about that before the game comes out and come up with a way to keep that at a minimum or make it not possible at all.

[The_Padre]

Since Cryptic deem whether the game is "fun" for those that play it, I would think that removing names that you don't personally like would inhibit the other players fun. If they are inoffensive and not abusive then I do not see the problem, would I play with them, probably not, that is my right to ignore them or others like them. There will be plenty of other players that I can team with if I need to.

[Lendosan]

Personally i'll name my vessel with logical names, named after things I know. However I guess it'll get annoying with names like "USS I_Killed_" and "USS UberPwnz0r". People pay for that THEY want so its their choice, but it would be alot better IF Cryptic DID put a limit on how stupid you can go. The "USS Fluffy Bunny" I can deal with, but the previous names. . .Id prefer not too.

[The_Padre]

Personally i'll name my vessel with logical names, named after things I know. However I guess it'll get annoying with names like "USS I_Killed_" and "USS UberPwnz0r". People pay for that THEY want so its their choice, but it would be alot better IF Cryptic DID put a limit on how stupid you can go. The "USS Fluffy Bunny" I can deal with, but the previous names. . .Id prefer not too.

That's fair enough but I'm not sure they'd be able to stop every "unusual" name from getting through. It will then get to a point, like in many MMOs, where all you're doing is worry about what other players are doing. There should be enough sensible people around to team with.

[trip1974]

when does game play start has i not sure how it all works,i was never confused.

[Starboard_Nacelle]

I seriously hope we do get to name our ships.

What would be the point of owning a ship if you didn't get to name it? I want a name with personality and meaning, not some factory-manufactured U.S.S. Generic.

[The_Padre]

I seriously hope we do get to name our ships.

What would be the point of owning a ship if you didn't get to name it? I want a name with personality and meaning, not some factory-manufactured U.S.S. Generic.

Player ship naming and registry numbers have been confirmed we just don't know the exact details of it. I thought a thread about what we could do with the system might be a good idea.

[.Spartan]

NCC Numbers should be order based, almost like a seniority system really. Names for characters and ships names should be totally up to the player (Lets stick with just letters though keep it clean so we dont have USS H@XZ0r).

I agree and the nomenclature should be faction dependent.

[Irish-Fury]

As for a naming system I hope they use a Starfleet file type system, where when you create your character you are essentially writing your personnel file.

as for the repetitive naming thing, this could be a problem since you should essentially be writing a standard name; Jane Doe.... now this could prove an issue if they they limit this, since usually IRL there are more than one person to any one name... The compromise would probably be to limit the surname... but what if people want their characters to be related? I would also like a provision to enter a middle name as well as birthplace.

As for naming your ship I imagine they could simply block out certain characters, though I hope they would at least allow one hyphen, as there are places, etc out there that do have them in their names.

[IcarusTyler]

All I want is the possibility to TAKE MY SHIPNAME FROM SHIP TO SHIP. Seriously. Am I the only one who is thinking about this? Wouldn't it be horrible if they sad "yes, this is the Blue Helix, but now you get a new ship, so pick a new name". Of ocurse this would be necessary if you could have a garage of say 5 ships collected, but I still want my flagship to bear the name I chose for it.

Also, yay for serious st-names. One to three words, nouns or adjectives. First letter spelled in capital. No Enterprise, Voyager, Defiant or Excelsior. No special characters. No Ènterprìsés. No insulting stuff. No sexual innuendo.Only unique names. There are enough if you actually think about it, all you people who name their characters "Legolas".

[netwolfe]

I hope we get a first and last name. I would like to use my real name since it's fitting. If I go human that is.


I do not know about the rest of you, but I was always taught the first rule of internet safety is never use your real name for the screen name for anything online. As hard as it is to believe they are a few crazy people that roam the net and later try to hunt down the people they meet online. I am not saying any of these people necessarily among us. Because I sure hope that is not the case. But I think people should be extra careful while on the internet.

I probably only have myself to blame though as maybe due to me coming from a long time Pen and Paper Roleplay background Im kind of in the habit of expecting people to name responsibility and stick the theme of the setting, showing some creativity and consistency within the limits of what has gone before.


Same here. You most likely played Pen and Paper games longer then I have, but wanted to let you know you are not the only one from that back ground or alone in your feelings about character names.

Its also probably true that most nonsense names come from those who typically arent familiar with a given setting, are young or just plain dont care for whatever reason.. but it would be nice if they would show a little bit more restraint.


Some of the names you see as being nonsense may not be nonsense to that person. For example if I name my star ship Milky Way some people may believe I named my ship after the candy bar while others would believe I named it after the Milky Way galaxy. This may not apply to all that you see as nonsense names, but it is something to think about. On a side note I am not planning to name my ship The Milky Way so feel free to use it yourself.

I have a question about character names. Let’s say I want to be a Klingon and thus want to have Klingon sounding name. Does anyone know of an online database of Kilngon names or data base of names for some of the other alien species?

[Keldaria]

Replied in the wrong post

[Fernos]

Since Cryptic deem whether the game is "fun" for those that play it, I would think that removing names that you don't personally like would inhibit the other players fun. If they are inoffensive and not abusive then I do not see the problem, would I play with them, probably not, that is my right to ignore them or others like them. There will be plenty of other players that I can team with if I need to.

You're just not getting it. This is Star Trek. Ever seen a full on Star Trek fan on a Jihad? These folks are vocal, creative and relentless ..Star Wars, Stargate, Red Planet fans are nothing compared to a ****ed off Star Trek fan that feels his lifestyle is threatened.

These guys can organize in a heartbeat and campaign relentlessly until the wrong is righted. MMO fans who are just looking at the game as another game to pwn are in for a rude awakening, you should have heard the talk at the Convention, this is what they have been waiting for. Cryptic saw I think for the first time the huge blunder Perpetual made when they said they weren’t designing a game for Star Trek fans…Star trek fans equals a Scrooge Mcduck size fortune for Cryptic, Hardcore MMO gamers that aren’t Star Trek fans will have no voice here. So trust me when the bulk of their subscribers starts to complain about Bigpapaborg and his ship the USS Pimpslap Cryptic will listen, ( Trust me those that say that cryptic isn't trying to design the game around Trekies wasn't at the convention) if they don’t you can expect NGE numbers on the servers. :cool:

[The_Padre]

You're just not getting it. This is Star Trek. Ever seen a full on Star Trek fan on a Jihad? These folks are vocal, creative and relentless ..Star Wars, Stargate, Red Planet fans are nothing compared to a ****ed off Star Trek fan that feels his lifestyle is threatened.

These guys can organize in a heartbeat and campaign relentlessly until the wrong is righted. MMO fans who are just looking at the game as another game to pwn are in for a rude awakening, you should have heard the talk at the Convention, this is what they have been waiting for. Cryptic saw I think for the first time the huge blunder Perpetual made when they said they weren’t designing a game for Star Trek fans…Star trek fans equals a Scrooge Mcduck size fortune for Cryptic, Hardcore MMO gamers that aren’t Star Trek fans will have no voice here. So trust me when the bulk of their subscribers starts to complain about Bigpapaborg and his ship the USS Pimpslap Cryptic will listen, ( Trust me those that say that cryptic isn't trying to design the game around Trekies wasn't at the convention) if they don’t you can expect NGE numbers on the servers. :cool:

Not that I disagree with you but that is even if the most die hard of fans even reach the game, looking at other trek sites there are greater complaints over things such as customizable ships and uniforms or even the over use of the Borg, hell people don't like that the Klingons maybe on unfriendly terms with the Federation. If you have a thick enough skin to ignore these apparent "canon" breaches already then I'm not sure a name is really going to bother you that much.

[wiley212a]

All I want is the possibility to TAKE MY SHIPNAME FROM SHIP TO SHIP. Seriously. Am I the only one who is thinking about this?

If you want to be "canon" then no you shouldn't be able to change ship names, but previous games have let us do just that at the cost of destruction or the sale of the ship. I would prefer to take my ships name from ship to ship but it's not that important to me.

[sniperct]

LIkely as you replace your ship you have the option of renaming it or carrying on the name and registry number with you, tacking on the next letter in the alphabet. NCC-1282, NCC-1282-A etc.

As for naming policy, they will likely have a similar ruleset to Lotro, or the WoW RP servers. At least I hope. They're all common sense rules, imho.

Lotro's is basically....No major canon names (Like, Kirk, Picard, Enterprise, etc), no numbers/leet speak, nothing offensive or racist or sexist or gaybashing etc, they cannot be copyrighted (Vader, Legolas, Pepsi, etc) and they'd need to fit the 'feel' and setting of the universe(no popculture. USS Youtube, USS Coke, USS Google etc).

No real famous or historical people either. Paris Hilton, Bush, Obama, George Washington (though there should be leeway here in terms of scien****. USS Stephan Hawking would be acceptable imo, and others like it. Many of them might fall under pop culture rules, though) etc. They would probably go all or nothing, though, rather than allow some and not others.

No gibberish words(too many of the same letter, or vowels in a row, though they may have to give some leeway in that due to some of the alien species' name patterns. That one is easy to do at the character creation at least). A rule against multiple words or sentences in a name, along with titles (Sir, captain, Thebardsings, Iownyou etc). Ship names would be different, USS Spring Valley for example would be okay.

The problem is enforcement. Not enough gms, or gms that don't care, or gms that just don't have the KNOWLEDGE. Seeing "Theexorcist" (copyright + multiple word rule + not fitting the setting rule) running around on my server in Lotro and nothing happening has been irritating me for a month now XD

[NeoWolf]

As for naming policy, they will likely have a similar ruleset to Lotro, or the WoW RP servers. At least I hope. They're all common sense rules, imho.

IOne of the reasons I went from beta to a Lifetime subscription with LOTRO is the quality of the roleplayers, the maturity of its community (in general) and thier GM's due care with regard to the naming policy violations.

The WoW RP servers isnt a good example though I played on those for a good few years and the GM's dont enforce naming policies except once in a very blue moon, as such even on those comedic and nonsens names can be found everywhere.

The problem is enforcement. Not enough gms, or gms that don't care, or gms that just don't have the KNOWLEDGE. Seeing "Theexorcist" (copyright + multiple word rule + not fitting the setting rule) running around on my server in Lotro and nothing happening has been irritating me for a month now XD

Hell Id donate my time and GM services for free if it meant keeping ridiculous names out of the game.. wouldnt be any slip through the net on my watch lol

[The_Padre]

It should be noted that according to the FAQ, and previous Cryptic games, there aren't going to be any RP servers for this game.

Saying that surnames are an issue, I'm not sure restricting a name like Picard, for example, would be in order since many different people can share that surname without being related. The restriction should only apply to the combination of both first and last names, so there would be no one running around called Jean-Luc Picard but there could be someone called John Picard or Jean-Luc Badeau.

[lrich111]

From the FAQ

"Will there be PvP, PvE and RP rule set servers?
There will not be separate servers. Open PvP will be restricted to designated sectors of space (far-off reaches of unclaimed territory). Consensual PvP and competitive PvE will occur between the realm borders (the Neutral Zone), where players will be competing over territory and resources with the option to PvP."

To me, they've definately ignored the RP aspect of the question, so its entirely possible that they won't enforce a strick naming system either.

[sniperct]

I know they won't have RP servers. Lotro doesn't have RP servers either, but many of it's harassment and naming rules are friendly to role-players(all those naming rules are for ALL servers in Lotro). Turbine at least enforces a stricter naming policy than the norm. But this isn't Turbine :D

Hopefully Cryptic does something similar, and hopefully there's lots to do on 'downtime' that's not just combat.

[sniperct]

It should be noted that according to the FAQ, and previous Cryptic games, there aren't going to be any RP servers for this game.

Saying that surnames are an issue, I'm not sure restricting a name like Picard, for example, would be in order since many different people can share that surname without being related. The restriction should only apply to the combination of both first and last names, so there would be no one running around called Jean-Luc Picard but there could be someone called John Picard or Jean-Luc Badeau.

I agree on what you're saying here, re: first and last name combos. There are a lot of Jims and Bens out there after all.

[lrich111]

Lord of the rings online does have rp servers, laurelin for example.

[sniperct]

Lord of the rings online does have rp servers, laurelin for example.

EU servers only. North America does not have official RP servers. Just one designated unofficially by the players (Landroval). :)

[Roka]

http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/

[KirksOtherSon]

I like the idea of naming your ship, registry should be given by a computer, that is just me.

Perhaps the best way would be an option to hand-submit a registry number, and an option to have one randomly assigned by the game at the click of a button? That would be the way, I think.

My opinions, anyway,

KOS

[Fernos]

Not that I disagree with you but that is even if the most die hard of fans even reach the game, looking at other trek sites there are greater complaints over things such as customizable ships and uniforms or even the over use of the Borg, hell people don't like that the Klingons maybe on unfriendly terms with the Federation. If you have a thick enough skin to ignore these apparent "canon" breaches already then I'm not sure a name is really going to bother you that much.

Well those things really aren't Canon Breaking considering it is 30 Years after Nemeses. A lot changes in 30 ..but I digress.

The thing is Trekies don't really have a Thick Skin when it comes to idiotic names or "Attention farming" (as one guy at the convention told Jack. )

One thing I noticed was Cryptic was listening and listening intently to what these guys said they didn't want to deal with....I have seen Cryptic at many E-3's and comic cons..I never seen them listening this close or asking questions like ..how would you deal with something like that if you were building a game? They are building the game for the Star Trek fans, and I think we are going to end up with a very unique naming policy.

[daadamo]

I may be the minority on this, but I would like to see that when you get promoted to a larger ship to command you get to choose from a list of, say four or five. Each ship with a name and registry number. Maybe even different class as well.

So Commander Smith gets promoted to Captain, he is offered his choice of four commisioned ships.

1) USS Hyperion- NCC-801111 Luna Class Starship
2) USS Sun Tzu- NCC-8119 Akira Class Starship
3) USS Callisto - NCC-80109 Luna Class Starship
4) USS Odyssey- NCC-71832 Galaxy Class Starship

Some ships could be older and near decommisioning, but with more firepower, some faster or more shielding but all on an even keel.

Now I know there is NO WAY they will do it like this, it's just wishfull thinking. But it would solve the naming problems like the USS @zzkikker NCC-6969 or the USS Monkeybum and so forth.:)

[NeoWolf]

I know they won't have RP servers. Lotro doesn't have RP servers either,

Actually that isnty true, it does have an RP server, Laurelin, when it was first released there was another server "Gilrain" from among the list that was also specifically noted as RP, but they took the RP off the Gilrain server after a while as almost all the RP'ers went and have stayed on Laurelin.

[lrich111]

Actually that isnty true, it does have an RP server, Laurelin, when it was first released there was another server "Gilrain" from among the list that was also specifically noted as RP, but they took the RP off the Gilrain server after a while as almost all the RP'ers went and have stayed on Laurelin.

Yeah Sniper answered, it was pointed out that, thats EU only and there's no rp servers in America.

[NeoWolf]

Yeah Sniper answered, it was pointed out that, thats EU only and there's no rp servers in America.

that sucks for the American contingent :(

[cenglandjr]

I definatly think the

Registry (USS/IKS)
Name (Defiant/Voyager/Enterprise)

System would work better. That eliminates the USS USS Voyager situation entirley,

As for Famous Registries.... Paramount Pictures has a Database of these ships and i believe only Admins/GM's should be able to use them. If you see one of these ships they are GM's flying around zones investigating "Server problems" and "Glitches" as they arise on the server. It serves a purpose and still gives everyone the ability to go... "I saw the Enterprise today!!!"

[cenglandjr]

I may be the minority on this, but I would like to see that when you get promoted to a larger ship to command you get to choose from a list of, say four or five. Each ship with a name and registry number. Maybe even different class as well.

So Commander Smith gets promoted to Captain, he is offered his choice of four commisioned ships.

1) USS Hyperion- NCC-801111 Luna Class Starship
2) USS Sun Tzu- NCC-8119 Akira Class Starship
3) USS Callisto - NCC-80109 Luna Class Starship
4) USS Odyssey- NCC-71832 Galaxy Class Starship

Some ships could be older and near decommisioning, but with more firepower, some faster or more shielding but all on an even keel.

Now I know there is NO WAY they will do it like this, it's just wishfull thinking. But it would solve the naming problems like the USS @zzkikker NCC-6969 or the USS Monkeybum and so forth.:)

Either way works for me.... to quote Kirk... "A Ship is a ship" make of it what you will.

[The_Padre]

I may be the minority on this, but I would like to see that when you get promoted to a larger ship to command you get to choose from a list of, say four or five. Each ship with a name and registry number. Maybe even different class as well.

So Commander Smith gets promoted to Captain, he is offered his choice of four commisioned ships.

1) USS Hyperion- NCC-801111 Luna Class Starship
2) USS Sun Tzu- NCC-8119 Akira Class Starship
3) USS Callisto - NCC-80109 Luna Class Starship
4) USS Odyssey- NCC-71832 Galaxy Class Starship

Some ships could be older and near decommisioning, but with more firepower, some faster or more shielding but all on an even keel.

Now I know there is NO WAY they will do it like this, it's just wishfull thinking. But it would solve the naming problems like the USS @zzkikker NCC-6969 or the USS Monkeybum and so forth.:)

I actually like this idea as well, it reminds me of all the times Riker was up for a command of his own and Starfleet would offer a particular ship that was available.

Also, daadamo, who made your avatar :D

[Fluxion]

They might just decide to do what EVE Online did. The only thing that needs to be unique is the player name. The name of the ship is sort of irrelevant. You can name it whatever you want and rename it whenever you want, because no one really sees it. All they see is your character's name when the ship is selected in space.

I hope they -don't- do this. I would rather the ship names be unique and displayed on the hulls along with, say, an NCC number assigned by the database.

But they would have to either have names approved by Cryptic staff or have a serious filter in place during the naming process. The problem, once again, is all the idiots who will choose inappropriate, offensive, leetspeak, misspelled, joke etc ship names, which will wind up breaking immersion and looking totally out of place (e.g. U.S.S. Yourmomishot or I.K.V. Ipwnyou). It's always a few who ruin it for the rest. :(

[daadamo]

Thanks Padre, that's the way me and my buddies did it when we used to play Star Trek the Roleplaying game back in the old days.

Oh, and I made my avatar myself in Photoshop with my Wacom pad! Thanks.

[Fluxion]

I may be the minority on this, but I would like to see that when you get promoted to a larger ship to command you get to choose from a list of, say four or five. Each ship with a name and registry number. Maybe even different class as well.

So Commander Smith gets promoted to Captain, he is offered his choice of four commisioned ships.

1) USS Hyperion- NCC-801111 Luna Class Starship
2) USS Sun Tzu- NCC-8119 Akira Class Starship
3) USS Callisto - NCC-80109 Luna Class Starship
4) USS Odyssey- NCC-71832 Galaxy Class Starship

Some ships could be older and near decommisioning, but with more firepower, some faster or more shielding but all on an even keel.

Now I know there is NO WAY they will do it like this, it's just wishfull thinking. But it would solve the naming problems like the USS @zzkikker NCC-6969 or the USS Monkeybum and so forth.:)

Actually, I too would like to see this implemented. It would eliminate all the naming abuse that is sure to happen (see my last post) and it's just more realistic. In reality, a captain doesn't get to "rename" his ship when he accepts a new command. He gets what is available and offered to him. A few choices would be a good compromise. IMHO. :)

[The_Padre]

Thanks Padre, that's the way me and my buddies did it when we used to play Star Trek the Roleplaying game back in the old days.

Oh, and I made my avatar myself in Photoshop with my Wacom pad! Thanks.

No problem :D

[sniperct]

I may be the minority on this, but I would like to see that when you get promoted to a larger ship to command you get to choose from a list of, say four or five. Each ship with a name and registry number. Maybe even different class as well.

So Commander Smith gets promoted to Captain, he is offered his choice of four commisioned ships.

1) USS Hyperion- NCC-801111 Luna Class Starship
2) USS Sun Tzu- NCC-8119 Akira Class Starship
3) USS Callisto - NCC-80109 Luna Class Starship
4) USS Odyssey- NCC-71832 Galaxy Class Starship

Some ships could be older and near decommisioning, but with more firepower, some faster or more shielding but all on an even keel.

Now I know there is NO WAY they will do it like this, it's just wishfull thinking. But it would solve the naming problems like the USS @zzkikker NCC-6969 or the USS Monkeybum and so forth.:)

That would be kinda cool, actually.

[Wraiven]

Oh, I will be sure to FRAPs the first, *U.S.S. PWNS 1701-A* just to get a good laugh out of it. You *know* it will happen, lol.

[DurMan667]

In regards to player names, I like the idea of having a multi-part name that makes the character unique. That way you can have multiple characters on a server with the same first name or last name. It adds realism.

Here's a thought: Have the MIDDLE name the unique name that is "one per server". That way you could be 'Frank G38827STP Wilson' and still retain the acceptable title of 'Frank G. Wilson'.

I mean, Kirk's middle name is Tiberious. That's pretty unique.

[The_Padre]

In regards to player names, I like the idea of having a multi-part name that makes the character unique. That way you can have multiple characters on a server with the same first name or last name. It adds realism.

Here's a thought: Have the MIDDLE name the unique name that is "one per server". That way you could be 'Frank G38827STP Wilson' and still retain the acceptable title of 'Frank G. Wilson'.

I mean, Kirk's middle name is Tiberious. That's pretty unique.

It'd be good so if an Admiral from Starfleet contacts you they can call you by your first name as seen in the shows or if you hail a colony they would refer to you as "Commander Edison" or something. It adds a little diversity to the communications you'll have.

[NeoWolf]

I may be the minority on this, but I would like to see that when you get promoted to a larger ship to command you get to choose from a list of, say four or five. Each ship with a name and registry number. Maybe even different class as well.

So Commander Smith gets promoted to Captain, he is offered his choice of four commisioned ships.

1) USS Hyperion- NCC-801111 Luna Class Starship
2) USS Sun Tzu- NCC-8119 Akira Class Starship
3) USS Callisto - NCC-80109 Luna Class Starship
4) USS Odyssey- NCC-71832 Galaxy Class Starship

Some ships could be older and near decommisioning, but with more firepower, some faster or more shielding but all on an even keel.

Now I know there is NO WAY they will do it like this, it's just wishfull thinking. But it would solve the naming problems like the USS @zzkikker NCC-6969 or the USS Monkeybum and so forth.:)

To chime in with the others I agree this would be a nice way of handling it, and it would help to give some sense of service history to our ships instead of the impression were always getting a ship made to order just for us :)

[The_Padre]

To chime in with the others I agree this would be a nice way of handling it, and it would help to give some sense of service history to our ships instead of the impression were always getting a ship made to order just for us :)

I wonder if you could tie-in the service history of the ship once you take another commission. So you could see what missions the ship has/had been involved in, maybe even list former "captains" as well.

[.Spartan]

I hope all service histories for PC will be part of the intel package one can get either via diplomacy for different factions or by database for the same faction. Such information will be paramount for the immersion factor in my opinion.

[The_Padre]

Most navies today give a history of the ship name itself and what types of vessels they were and any major engagements they were involved in. I was thinking if that could be implemented as well.

[DurMan667]

Nah, Starfleet has done away with money. Fresh ships for everyone!

=P

[Ryan3932]

They may have done away with "money"

But they have "credits" that you can spend on "luxury" items.


Ryan
Postscript, After my post don't you just hate air quotes...

[arakkis]

Dibs on the NCC-1337

[Ravain]

I was wondering how our Cryptic going to handle these aspects.

Are we going to have both a first and last name for our player characters?

Will our ship names and registry numbers be separate, will we just enter them in one naming field or will there be separate fields for the name of the ship and the NCC registry number?

I hope we can name the ship and the game registry gives an automatic ship registry to the ship you created, this way it makeit more unique like you really been given a ship.

[iPond317]

As long as I can command an Akira and name it the USS Dauntless (after NX-01-A). I love that name for a starship!

[cenglandjr]

Most navies today give a history of the ship name itself and what types of vessels they were and any major engagements they were involved in. I was thinking if that could be implemented as well.


Having a Database that had all Encounters and players that were previous captains of the vessel would add to the history of the game imo. Imgaine... you get enough rank to get a ship that is fresh from stardock. Just that alone would make ppl covet their ships more.

I personally think this should be implimented immeadiatly. A list from paramount Pics (llc) should be able to handle the massive name influx. Now knowing its a game may require a little philandering... but it's defanatly doable imo. You have books, prior games, TV shows and Movies all with names. Cryptic could even pull from current and historical Navy registries to get names. Automatically put in say Major Cities, and States.... anything that will be helpful for them to keep up with the infulx of players.

With this single solitary idea you could have new players playing thier hearts out in the hopes of commanding thier own vessel... but really praying that they get a right out of the shipyards model!!!!

Ship historical Data could be saved every time a battle insues, Such information is saved in PvE missions all the time in CoH. You could simply review logs. I guarentee you if this becomes something they want to build upon it will keep gamers coming back because they want to have some type of history in thier game. Imagine the first server raids come online..... the vioctors would possibly mothboll thier ships for historical relavance, just to say.... "My ship survived the first raid.... check the logs!!!"

And also.... if historical data/logs are kept, where do u think the first place any captain will go when selcting a ship, or when they do thier first walkthrough of thier ships. Hell... you could even send the prior captain a message, like...."Hi.... your girl is safe with me... godspeed!!". Aweome idea.

Cryptic... pay attention... this thread holds complete validity.

[.Spartan]

It would seem to me a gross oversight for Cryptic not to build historical metadata into the game to be frank. It is as I stated before, that is a big huge attraction of ST for many people and always has been.

[Lendosan]

I think having a registry on all the ships in STO would be REALLY good, but would also be too large eventually for you to even glance. I guess if you break it down into commission dates, so you can see what the really early "Explorers" did, that would be cool.

[The_Padre]

City of Heroes/Villains stored information based on what story arcs your character had completed, as well as things like various badges and rewards you received. Since the ship will be a part of your character I would assume that some of that would transfer over as well.

[TheProphets]

A good resource to see how the Starfleet registry works can be found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfleet_starship_registry_(Star_Trek)

I am one of the firm believers that the registry number of the player ships should be controlled by the game system. After all, you are a captain in the federation and you get assigned a ship... its not like you get to pick your ship - you get what they give you. This is the military after all.

I too would greatly like to pick the name of the ship, and I think this feature to be somewhat likely given their statements on customization. However, above all else, I don't want to see a bunch of "garbage" names floating around either. If that required only being able to pick a name from a vast database of authorized names, so be it. But I suspect they will use a report system similar to how player names can often be reported in mmorpgs, and that is fine with me.

[iPond317]

A good resource to see how the Starfleet registry works can be found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfleet_starship_registry_(Star_Trek)

I am one of the firm believers that the registry number of the player ships should be controlled by the game system. After all, you are a captain in the federation and you get assigned a ship... its not like you get to pick your ship - you get what they give you. This is the military after all.

I too would greatly like to pick the name of the ship, and I think this feature to be somewhat likely given their statements on customization. However, above all else, I don't want to see a bunch of "garbage" names floating around either. If that required only being able to pick a name from a vast database of authorized names, so be it. But I suspect they will use a report system similar to how player names can often be reported in mmorpgs, and that is fine with me.

I agree. Could you imagine seeing a starship with the name USS A$$MUNCH or something similar zipping around the quadrant? While it would be humorous, it would be a detriment to gameplay.

There will most likely be a computer generated registry system with name customization.

What I'm most excited for, but is not a part of the name/registry, are the refits/upgrades we will get within our class of ship!

[eNDIE]

Will probably get some flames for this but it would be cool to be able to have the Fleet logo on the ships to i you are in one.

[TheProphets]

I agree. Could you imagine seeing a starship with the name USS A$$MUNCH or something similar zipping around the quadrant? While it would be humorous, it would be a detriment to gameplay.

There will most likely be a computer generated registry system with name customization.

What I'm most excited for, but is not a part of the name/registry, are the refits/upgrades we will get within our class of ship!

I think the ship upgrades and customization options themselves are extremely important. Without them, players would always be looking ahead to that next ship they want to get.... never fully enjoying the one they currently have. It would equate to "ship grinding."

I want to love my ship... and when the time comes where I am presented a new ship, I want to be a little sad to see the old one go. The upgrade/customization path is certainly a good start for that possibility.

[cenglandjr]

Will probably get some flames for this but it would be cool to be able to have the Fleet logo on the ships to i you are in one.

I don't see anything wrong with a small Fleet Insignia on a ship that's activly involved in a fleet/guild. All ships will be starfleet it just goes to say "I belong to an elite group" but am still Federation.

As for Ship Designation... absolutly have them assign ships. Log Entries and other thing work well. Registry numbers are very effective. Examples are as follows..

Game Starts... Registires are "Ship Name" - NCC-000001

As the game progresses you would see players make ships. SO lets say that there were 586 ships made in the first week... the next person who logs in and creates a ship... would be "Ship name" NCC-000587

System fixed... many borg will die!!!

[vp21ct]

We are roughly 3 years from launch according to Jack. I'd be surprised if this info gets finalized this early.

thats what these forums are for, to help them finalize these sorts of things and make it faster, stronger, BETTER

[The_Padre]

I don't see anything wrong with a small Fleet Insignia on a ship that's activly involved in a fleet/guild. All ships will be starfleet it just goes to say "I belong to an elite group" but am still Federation.

As for Ship Designation... absolutly have them assign ships. Log Entries and other thing work well. Registry numbers are very effective. Examples are as follows..

Game Starts... Registires are "Ship Name" - NCC-000001

As the game progresses you would see players make ships. SO lets say that there were 586 ships made in the first week... the next person who logs in and creates a ship... would be "Ship name" NCC-000587

System fixed... many borg will die!!!

Well just so it doesn't feel too low maybe the number could start with something like: NCC-80001. The next would be NCC-80002, NCC-80003, NCC-80004 and so on. Eventually you should reach numbers that start looking a little more like the ones we know.

[TheProphets]

Many TNG era vessels had registry numbers in the 50000 range, DS9 saw vessels in the 60000 - 70000 range.
So by the time this game takes place, I'd be surprised if we started earlier than the 90000 or 100000 range of registry numbers. 100000 doesn't sound like a bad starting point for the game now that I think about it.

[Raven0238]

Personally I feel the Registry number should be computer generated or limited to a certain number of characters. Name filters should also, I think pick out any USS 1337 or USS Pwnz0rs Just my opinion

[NeoWolf]

Will probably get some flames for this but it would be cool to be able to have the Fleet logo on the ships to i you are in one.

Actually according to part of the Gamespot interview on the game with Cryptics Craig "I own a Goat" Zinkievich :p you will be able to put a fleet logo on.

Ive included the releavnt paragraphs from the interview below in a quote box

CZ: Cryptic is well known for delivering a high-level customization. As you "rank up" in the military, you'll gain access to larger and more powerful classes of ships. As captain, you'll have the opportunity to outfit your ship with the specific items, systems, and weapons that you want to put there. There are all sorts of different types of photon torpedoes and phaser arrays in the technological mythology of the universe, and you'll be able to put them on your ship. Change out and upgrade your nacelles, medical bays, sensor units...you name it. You'll be able to configure your ship so it plays the way you want.

You'll also be able to customize the look of your starship; put your fleet's emblem on it, change the colors, add decals, and, of course, specify your ship's name and designation.

[Direphoenix]

I think it would be neat if you could choose from an assortment of names that are tied with certain NCC registries, but I also have to think that eventually they might run out of names that are not in current use. Having a computer generated registry number with a User selected name (with checks in place to ensure that's not an active ship name already) may be best, even if it does turn out with some people slipping by with misspellings.

However, I also think that if I could come up with a clever name and number that's powerful enough to make someone quit on the spot, that I have won a victory in making the game a little better for everyone. Who wants to play with someone so uptight about ship or character names anyway?

[The_Padre]

I'd assume that the emblems would be from a list already in-game, that would have to be one extensive list mind you.

[Hyperion2206]

I've got another question concerning your ships name:

When you get your first ship you give it a name,right? But what happens when you get a new ship after a while? Will you keep the name of your old ship or will you have to think of a new game?
I'd think it would be cool if you would take over the command of the USS Iron Duke-A after serving on the the USS Iron Duke.
Any thoughts?

[The_Padre]

I've got another question concerning your ships name:

When you get your first ship you give it a name,right? But what happens when you get a new ship after a while? Will you keep the name of your old ship or will you have to think of a new game?
I'd think it would be cool if you would take over the command of the USS Iron Duke-A after serving on the the USS Iron Duke.
Any thoughts?

Maybe they will, maybe they'll use it as another way of identifying your avatar. It does raise another possibility with your characters name, in most MMOs when you name your avatar you will normally be the only player on that server with that name, even with a first and last name system in place you won't get two characters named "John Smith" playing on that server.

Now if we take your ship name and registry into consideration as a part of your identity as well, you could easily have two "John Smith's" playing on the same server because the game would differentiate you by both your character name and your ship name.

This would help with the main problem of MMOs versus "real life" naming issues where you can easily have more than one person named "John Smith" in the world.

[fireblade]

personally I think should put some kind of dictionary check on name generator,on top or reserved names and profanity filter, to remove any inappropriate names. can base off same principle of a spell checker so shouldn't be that hard to do and if use a large enough dictionary should be enough names available for everyone while preventing nonsense names that seem to turn up in other games

[Sheriffnl]

Don't forget that we'll eventually being able to create our own ships in our own shipyards. I think that the Registration numbers will be computer generated based on you fleet settings ...

I also hope that these fleet setting will allow us to force the ships name in a certain direction.

[Falin]

I seriously hope they rethink this and just have the ships be preset names and numbers.

[Phunix]

I seriously hope they rethink this and just have the ships be preset names and numbers.
Agreed.
In PotBS we can name ships and serves to absolutely no purpose at all. Of course, you can't see the other ship's names, because FLS decided there was already too much info on the UI icon of a friendly or enemy ship.
Not sure if it will be the same in ST:O but I'm sure they'll have space restrictions as well... Captain name, ship type, elementary damage info... and ship name too?
Now this is part a gripe of how PotBS is handling naming ships but shows how rather unimportant they are, and it's more about the ship types.
And it's an entirely diff. world in the age of sail ship could actually be named by their captains (at least the ones that -owned- them) where when in service by the Federation you get a ship handed to you with preassigned name and number...
Klingons aren't so tight with regulations so not sure if they could name their ships...
I'm always in favor of restrictions though to keep immersion killing names out of the game.

An interesting approach would be to have a database to choose from. After all if Cryptic will hold a database with predefined names to give ships, they could just as well be made available

My final choice would be:
Federation:
- Existing ships that get assigned: no name change possible.
- New ships built can be assigned a name out of a huge DB.
Klingon:
- Existing ships no name change until longer term ownership, and only out of a DB.
- New ships built can be assigned a name out of a huge DB.

[KidBang]

Definitely agree that registries should be assigned by the computer. Just makes sense

[.Spartan]

Definitely agree that registries should be assigned by the computer. Just makes sense

I concur. They could use a simple registration system that goes off of the D/M/Y cycle or even base it off of IP address and or country block or a combination of both for that matter.

[kip]

nah jus random an ip is personnal

[vp21ct]

Either way works for me.... to quote Kirk... "A Ship is a ship" make of it what you will.

Amen brother

and to quote the quote on the defiants plaque, "all i ask is a tall ship and a fine crew, and a star to guide her by."

[The_Padre]

I guess it would ultimately depend on how your avatar and personal ship is handled at character creation as well.

[The_Padre]

I concur. They could use a simple registration system that goes off of the D/M/Y cycle or even base it off of IP address and or country block or a combination of both for that matter.

I wonder if there will also be other prefix designations. For example The T'Pau, a Vulcan ship, had their registry as NSP, other non-Starfleet ships like the Vico had an NAR prefix while the USS Raven also had the prefix NAR-32450. The Raven in the Voyager episode Dark Frontier was identified as a Starfleet vessel.

It would appear that separate divisions within Starfleet can have different prefix codes.

[Deletham_Tomalak]

Would make sense. Easy way to quickly identify vessel types much like how NX is experimental and NCC is passed testing. Hopefully this will be carried over into NPC ships and possibly in the future players being able to obtain cargo or medical or repair vessels with these designations to serve as buff pets for repairs and the like.

[.Spartan]

I wonder if there will also be other prefix designations. For example The T'Pau, a Vulcan ship, had their registry as NSP, other non-Starfleet ships like the Vico had an NAR prefix while the USS Raven also had the prefix NAR-32450. The Raven in the Voyager episode Dark Frontier was identified as a Starfleet vessel.

It would appear that separate divisions within Starfleet can have different prefix codes.

Yeah. That is why I suggested the country IP block. :) But hay maybe there is some code list for alliance and friendly cultures somewhere in the Fed but we the average fan simple have no idea about it.

[The_Padre]

Yeah. That is why I suggested the country IP block. :) But hay maybe there is some code list for alliance and friendly cultures somewhere in the Fed but we the average fan simple have no idea about it.

Yeah, another way could be based on where our fleets build their starbases. Depending on what area you set up could have an effect on what registry prefix you could use. Player fleets could also possibly make up a new prefix as well, that way you could easily identify ships and whose fleet they belong to.

[.Spartan]

Yeah, another way could be based on where our fleets build their starbases. Depending on what area you set up could have an effect on what registry prefix you could use. Player fleets could also possibly make up a new prefix as well, that way you could easily identify ships and whose fleet they belong to.

That is about what I'm hoping for personally. I want the naming convention to really mean something to the players and not some arbitrary numbering system.

[The_Padre]

It would greatly add to the immersion factor for me personally :D

[The_Padre]

The recent Gen-Con interview with Jack mentioned that there might be specialised ships, I wonder if they could have the different prefix registries, standard Starfleet ships would have NCC while the science vessels could have NAR for example.

[The_Padre]

As long as I can command an Akira and name it the USS Dauntless (after NX-01-A). I love that name for a starship!

I would've named her after the naval ships myself :D

[HarveyMo]

I wouldn't mind the ship registry being generated by the in game mechanics,
But i would like to have the option to change the registry tags to my liking
Also, being able to slap my own name across the bow of the ship to boot would be nice.
choosing a paint scheme would also be cool, choosing the standard fed colors or the mirror universe colors or even creating your own paint scheme would be awesome.

[The_Padre]

Those are some mad necro skills you have there...

[fatsweatshirt]

lol...yeah, that is impressive. most impressive.

[fatsweatshirt]

actually, surprising he didn't even make a new thread

[qultar]

did not know this game was being worked on in 2008

[HarveyMo]

LOL didn't notice the date, is what I get for being on here half asleep :D