Star Fleet Uniforms from the Trailer

[Kudos17]

I like the uniforms cryptic showed in the trailer. They are more "Classic" looking than the ones PE had proposed.

Good choice Cryptic!!!

[r2d2ott]

I agree. They remind me of First Contact / Insurrection with a little update, and a little flirtation with second gen TNG jumpsuits.

Those ... things that Perpetual Ent. had designed were certainly odd.

[The_Padre]

I love them as well, I think it's the white rim around the collar and sleeves that do it.

[Darkthunder]

I still think the design chosen is wrong for the time period that Cryptic has set their game. The uniforms seen in AGT/Endgame were decidedly different. Although both episodes depict timelines which have since been altered, there is no reason to assume that the uniform design won't turn out the same way.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(alternate)

(Scroll to the bottom of the page for the AGT/Endgame uniforms, ca. 2395-2404)

[The_Padre]

I still think the design chosen is wrong for the time period that Cryptic has set their game. The uniforms seen in AGT/Endgame were decidedly different. Although both episodes depict timelines which have since been altered, there is no reason to assume that the uniform design won't turn out the same way.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Starfleet_uniform_(alternate))

(Scroll to the bottom of the page for the AGT/Endgame uniforms, ca. 2395-2404)

We know what the uniforms look like however since this is a game which will be treated in the same fashion as say the books or comics it does not in this regard have to follow the potential future timeline precisely.

[Ensign_Steve]

The uniforms were actually better than I expected.

[Necro]

it could be me but the equipment they used seemed so...old fashion and bulky it reminded me of TOS.

[The_Padre]

it could be me but the equipment they used seemed so...old fashion and bulky it reminded me of TOS.

Oddly enough all of the weapons and so on was stuff from First Contact onwards.

[flamespidey@hotmail.com]

They seemed to want to stress customization... ever think that Uniforms would be a part of that? I'm sure the ones featured in the video are one of the many uniform choices we will have.

[The_Sisko]

They are much better than the PE uniforms. However, I still prefer the TNG movies/latter DS9 uniforms.

I know Cryptic likes customization (my CoH character has 4 different looks) so I'm hoping they allow players to use retro uniforms if they wish.

[spectre6]

I must contest, I didn't like the uniforms shown in the trailer at all. Star Trek has been in long need of a face lift and Perpetuals version of the new uniform was well on the way. Also, does anyone know if it is going to be possible to make your character as realistic as you might find in SL?

[Blackfire2]

They seemed to want to stress customization... ever think that Uniforms would be a part of that? I'm sure the ones featured in the video are one of the many uniform choices we will have.

Most likely, ship crews in the original series actually had different emblems on their uniforms than the one we know today. The different emblems were a way of identifying what ship you came from, perhaps the devs have decided to bring back this old tradition.

[TitansFan1234]

I assume the two types of uniforms are kinda like in "Generations" where they could wear both. But what's the deal with the solid gray uniform? The guy wearing it is holding a phaser rifle. Anybody know?

[Hyperion2206]

I assume the two types of uniforms are kinda like in "Generations" where they could wear both. But what's the deal with the solid gray uniform? The guy wearing it is holding a phaser rifle. Anybody know?

I guess grey is the new color security has to wear from now.:(

[Varrangian]

I assume the two types of uniforms are kinda like in "Generations" where they could wear both. But what's the deal with the solid gray uniform? The guy wearing it is holding a phaser rifle. Anybody know?

I believe the gray is Star Fleet Intel.

[Hyperion2206]

I believe the gray is Star Fleet Intel.

Really? But they said the universe has changed so it's possible that grey is now the color of security.

[Varrangian]

Really? But they said the universe has changed so it's possible that grey is now the color of security.

That could be as well. It could also be that customization in the game allows you to have you crew wear a larger pallet of colors. I understand the need to use uniforms to identify role, but if I assign my Science officer red, I think I can remember that. ;-) while not cannon, it would make it nice so each crew didn't look like a repeat of everyone else's crew.

[Hyperion2206]

That could be as well. It could also be that customization in the game allows you to have you crew wear a larger pallet of colors. I understand the need to use uniforms to identify role, but if I assign my Science officer red, I think I can remember that. ;-) while not cannon, it would make it nice so each crew didn't look like a repeat of everyone else's crew.

That's possible as well. Perhaps you can even design the uniforms your officers will wear.:p

[Varrangian]

That's possible as well. Perhaps you can even design the uniforms your officers will wear.:p

Design would be amazing, I'd be happy with the choice to pic from a few styles and the ability to change them when I wanted. But Design, now there is some major customization.

[RedShirt]

I would like to see First Contact uniforms, and even the PE ones from the sketches. Sure they didn't look great for shipboard activities but for hazardous away missions, yeah.

[Hyperion2206]

Design would be amazing, I'd be happy with the choice to pic from a few styles and the ability to change them when I wanted. But Design, now there is some major customization.

Chosing styles would be great although not really canon. On board my ship everyone would be wearing the late DS9 uniforms and when on a diplomatic mission with everybody would wear the uniforms from ST II-VI.:D

[Croesis]

I don't like the uniforms, they seem to be a throw back mix of late TNG and early DS9. I prefer the Late DS9 and First contact uniforms personally.

The PE uniforms were interesting and could have allowed for believable stats for the NPC crew. I.E greater hazardous area protection with the Engineer suit, greater phaser/disruptor defence with the Security suit, greater speed and agility with the medical suit etc... All of this while still maintaining the character of the uniforms themselves.

[Admiral_Soth]

Grey is the new Red :p

[Varrangian]

I don't like the uniforms, they seem to be a throw back mix of late TNG and early DS9. I prefer the Late DS9 and First contact uniforms personally.

The PE uniforms were interesting and could have allowed for believable stats for the NPC crew. I.E greater hazardous area protection with the Engineer suit, greater phaser/disruptor defence with the Security suit, greater speed and agility with the medical suit etc... All of this while still maintaining the character of the uniforms themselves.

Yeah but funny how PE never made a game, and when Cryptic picked it up all that was left was vaporware.

[hinaito]

I like the uniforms from the gameplay trailer... but I never had anything against the uniforms that PE had designed.

[Ktar]

I liked the uniforms as well. I always preferred the color on just the shoulders like in Voyager. I wonder how many "alternate" uniforms there will be and what they will look like?

[Sythian]

I really liked the uniforms being used. It was easy to relate that what one was looking at is Trek.

[Nytok]

I like the design of the new uniforms, but they seem to be a bit untidy to me.

[TitansFan1234]

Grey is the new Red :p



Are you saying all command officers are now wearing gray? Then who is wearing red?

[Drolith]

They talk about how much they love customization and making things "your own" I'm sure costumes are apart of that so if you like them or not, you will be able to change it so it isn't really a big deal. I don't know how the ground component will work so you may be able to earn better uniforms and what not through that...who knows?

[ParkerHayden]

I preferred PE's uniforms, but Cryptic's is still really good. It's like a tunic version of the Voyager uniforms, but with pips on the shoulder.

[TheMasterpiece]

I really liked the uniforms being used. It was easy to relate that what one was looking at is Trek.



I like them also, they seem like a cooler looking version of the voyager uniforms i love so much

[Varrangian]

I preferred PE's uniforms, but Cryptic's is still really good. It's like a tunic version of the Voyager uniforms, but with pips on the shoulder.

I have to say with the pips that I like them despite being non-cannon. From a game play perspective offer a lot of help.

[Croesis]

I don't like the uniforms, they seem to be a throw back mix of late TNG and early DS9. I prefer the Late DS9 and First contact uniforms personally.

The PE uniforms were interesting and could have allowed for believable stats for the NPC crew. I.E greater hazardous area protection with the Engineer suit, greater phaser/disruptor defence with the Security suit, greater speed and agility with the medical suit etc... All of this while still maintaining the character of the uniforms themselves.

Not to mention they look too shiny/rubbery but I guess the uniforms suffer from the same issues I have with the characters themselves at the moment. I certainly hope you can customise the uniforms within a certain limit i.e. each department has to have it's corresponding colour. For me it's subtlety all the way.

[ParkerHayden]

I have to say with the pips that I like them despite being non-cannon. From a game play perspective offer a lot of help.
Yeah, they probably put the pips there so they're easily see-able by other players.

[Grimzkhul]

For some odd reason I prefer the uniforms Jonathan Archer's crew wore. In a ship I'm not looking for flash, I'm looking for practicality. To me it just seems that the Federation went overboard with some crazy designer once they hit the Kirk generation.

[Sendric]

I don't mind the uniform overall but aside from the way that they rank was displayed. emblems need to be that large then it should be moved to the sleeves.

I also /sign that the First Contact uniforms are the best.

[Will_Lucky]

Are you saying all command officers are now wearing gray? Then who is wearing red?

No Command is obviously Red, no idea though on Grey but I like the idea of it being security.

[Varrangian]

Yeah, they probably put the pips there so they're easily see-able by other players.

While mildly off topic... look at the picture, do you see how the Andorian is a much lower rank than the rest of the crew? I'm very curious about this, what it might mean for crew mechanics as well as what it might mean for grouping.

[Ktar]

Yeah, they probably put the pips there so they're easily see-able by other players.

Yeah.. it would be no fun if you couldn't show off your rank to other players! :D The rank on the collar was always too hard to see anyways.

[ParkerHayden]

While mildly off topic... look at the picture, do you see how the Andorian is a much lower rank than the rest of the crew? I'm very curious about this, what it might mean for crew mechanics as well as what it might mean for grouping.
I was more curious as to why his uniform was black. New Security uniform?

[EpiphanyTenzo]

I think the whole customization thing will roll over to the uniforms, what your crew looks like, to possibly change the color scheme of your ship. It would be most impressive to have that kind of idea, and also have the ability to possibly transport another Captain onto your ship to see what it looks like or how you customized it.

[Varrangian]

For some odd reason I prefer the uniforms Jonathan Archer's crew wore. In a ship I'm not looking for flash, I'm looking for practicality. To me it just seems that the Federation went overboard with some crazy designer once they hit the Kirk generation.

Lol, well I think the uniforms in the screenie have a good level of practicality and formality. It would in my mind be the equivalent of most military branch's service dress. I'd love to see them include something more practical for combat or work duty like a ACU/MARPAT (though not necessarily camo).

[KirksOtherSon]

I guess grey is the new color security has to wear from now.:(

From a game design standpoint, giving security personnel an unique uniform color (grey) means that characters and NPCs of this "class" are identifiable at a glance during play. Whether or not one prefers it as a Trek fan, it's smart design, as it facilitates gameplay.

My opinion, anyway,

KOS

[Varrangian]

I was more curious as to why his uniform was black. New Security uniform?

I saw someone suggest in another thread that it was Star Fleet Intel, but I'm not sure that is correct. I wouldn't mind seeing a larger color pallet to choose from. While not cannon it is my crew and I'll be the one looking at them most. ;)

[Lord_Xomic]

No Command is obviously Red, no idea though on Grey but I like the idea of it being security.

I believe people are somewhat confused about the later uniforms: the various divisions didn't change colors, they just went from being black/division color, to a Grey jumpsuit with a turtle neck under it of the color of the division.

The new uniform appears to be based on the Cadet uniform from 2370 (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Image:Cadet_uniform_2370s.jpg)

[Lord_Xomic]

I saw someone suggest in another thread that it was Star Fleet Intel, but I'm not sure that is correct. I wouldn't mind seeing a larger color pallet to choose from. While not cannon it is my crew and I'll be the one looking at them most. ;)

Couldn't agree more: this isn't a TV show, where colors had to be limited, due to budget limits, in a video game, however, it's as easy as recoloring the skins.

[KirksOtherSon]

Are you saying all command officers are now wearing gray? Then who is wearing red?

The thinking is that command alone is red, security is now grey. Basically, every branch gets its own unique color that no other specialization has: command = red; sciences = blue; technical = gold; security = grey.

That's the theory, anyway.

Just my opinion,

KOS

[Varrangian]

Couldn't agree more: this isn't a TV show, where colors had to be limited, due to budget limits, in a video game, however, it's as easy as recoloring the skins.

Exactly! This also opens the door to being able to change the uniform my crew is wearing when I want. So if I feel out mission calls for a Dress uniform I can "make it so" :D

[Hyperion2206]

The thinking is that command alone is red, security is now grey. Basically, every branch gets its own unique color that no other specialization has: command = red; sciences = blue; technical = gold; security = grey.

That's the theory, anyway.

Just my opinion,

KOS

Now you just forgot Medical.;)

[Jonathan]

Couldn't agree more: this isn't a TV show, where colors had to be limited, due to budget limits, in a video game, however, it's as easy as recoloring the skins.

I don't mind variants of uniforms - Captains have always had several options available to them, many different versions of TNG and DS9 uniforms were often seen on the screen at the same time and even Sisko swapped to a TNG uniform for the short time he was back on Earth. I also don't mind giving more departmental colours - the Original Cast movies had five or six colours for the turtleneck shirts they wore under their jackets. However if you've got complete free range of colours it's not very... well uniform.

Where Cryptic could really cut loose is clothing for undercover missions.

[Mysticone622]

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[Mysticone622]

I don't mind variants of uniforms - Captains have always had several options available to them, many different versions of TNG and DS9 uniforms were often seen on the screen at the same time and even Sisko swapped to a TNG uniform for the short time he was back on Earth. I also don't mind giving more departmental colours - the Original Cast movies had five or six colours for the turtleneck shirts they wore under their jackets. However if you've got complete free range of colours it's not very... well uniform.

Where Cryptic could really cut loose is clothing for undercover missions.

Thats because if you look like the shows in early DS9 late TNG, the TNG uniforms were basicly start ships and the early DS9 were for star base uniforms. Remember every star ship that came to DS9 at the point had TNG uniforms :)


I think you will be able to pick the type of uniform your crew wears because in the trailer were the 4 man team gets beamed up they are all wear a different uniform, One Voyager/ one TNG ect..

[Varrangian]

I don't mind variants of uniforms - Captains have always had several options available to them, many different versions of TNG and DS9 uniforms were often seen on the screen at the same time and even Sisko swapped to a TNG uniform for the short time he was back on Earth. I also don't mind giving more departmental colours - the Original Cast movies had five or six colours for the turtleneck shirts they wore under their jackets. However if you've got complete free range of colours it's not very... well uniform.

Where Cryptic could really cut loose is clothing for undercover missions.

That is why I suggest a limited range of color selections maybe three shades of the following colors: Red, Yellow, Green, Blue and add White and Black/Gray.

[TimJ]

From the trailer the uniforms I think MAY not the ones that are going to use but what interests me is the grey uniform? We all know that the 3 diffrent departent colours are in the TNG time perod:Command/Red Operations/Yellow and Science, Medical are blue But what is the Grey one? Could it be a hologram npc?


TimJ.

[LunaticFringer]

I do like them but if they're available to wear in game I'd like to try out a little bit of everything on the uniforms. If I'm feeling a little time trippy I could put on an 80's era movie uniform. :cool:

[Varrangian]

From the trailer the uniforms I think MAY not the ones that are going to use but what interests me is the grey uniform? We all know that the 3 diffrent departent colours are in the TNG time perod:Command/Red Operations/Yellow and Science, Medical are blue But what is the Grey one? Could it be a hologram npc?


TimJ.

The two suggestions for the gray uniform have been "security" and "intel"

[Taonas]

I liked the uniforms, but they looked like they went back in time with uniforms; front the nice looking nemesis ones back to the jumpsuits of TNG

[bitgolem]

I was really impressed by the trailer, and hope to see the graphics sharpened up by release to be really cool looking.
Ship Combat kind of reminded me of Armada...

[Irislynn]

I do actually really like the uniforms. As was stated by someone earlier, I think they are more obviously Trek when you look at them.
Additionally, I don't like it when the characters seem overburdened by having too much going on in their clothes. This was never the impression I got by watching any of the shows or the movies. And for some reason I thought the design Perpetual had for the uniforms made the characters look a bit too clunky, for my personal taste at least.
So, the clean lines, distinct colors, possibility of collars and extra little jazz by having the ranks on the shoulders are all good in my book. =)

[TitansFan1234]

I saw an earlier post from someone somewhere in the forum that I totally agree with. The uniforms looked a bit unkempt. I don't like the fact that the tops look like jackets in that they are not tucked in. When you think of uniforms, you think of "tucked in". It just looks official, and professional. Maybe I'm just being too picky.

[Varrangian]

I do actually really like the uniforms. As was stated by someone earlier, I think they are more obviously Trek when you look at them.
Additionally, I don't like it when the characters seem overburdened by having too much going on in their clothes. This was never the impression I got by watching any of the shows or the movies. And for some reason I thought the design Perpetual had for the uniforms made the characters look a bit too clunky, for my personal taste at least.
So, the clean lines, distinct colors, possibility of collars and extra little jazz by having the ranks on the shoulders are all good in my book. =)

I thought I was the only one that like the collars. It is a nice throw back to the Navy dress whites in my opinion. I'd still love to see multiple uniform options, I like to different for different occasions.

[Varrangian]

I saw an earlier post from someone somewhere in the forum that I totally agree with. The uniforms looked a bit unkempt. I don't like the fact that the tops look like jackets in that they are not tucked in. When you think of uniforms, you think of "tucked in". It just looks official, and professional. Maybe I'm just being too picky.

Well I would never tuck in a jacket and yes this does look like a jacket, but that is far more formal in my opinion than the jump suit look of TNG.

[Lendosan]

To be honest I prefer the uniforms from the Nemesis/Dominion War era, that cord look-a-like shoulder set. Looked really nice. The new ones in the trailer, not too keen. Ack well, Its STO so who cares XD

[Admiral_Patrick]

I think they looked freaking ridiculous. With those GIGANTIC insignia, it makes me laugh. However, I think its a work in progress so Im not worried about it.

[Varrangian]

To be honest I prefer the uniforms from the Nemesis/Dominion War era, that cord look-a-like shoulder set. Looked really nice. The new ones in the trailer, not too keen. Ack well, Its STO so who cares XD

My dream on this would be for them to give us the option of picking any of the Star Fleet uniforms we've seen from 2161 onwards, including alternate realities. Plus adding in three or four new options. Give us expanded color choices and let us play. Is it cannon? no, but then it would let people have what they want for their crew and if people wanted cannon they could still have it.

[Varrangian]

I think they looked freaking ridiculous. With those GIGANTIC insignia, it makes me laugh. However, I think its a work in progress so Im not worried about it.

By gigantic you mean the rank? I would assume that's actually a game mechanic. Rather than having "Lt. JG Smartarze" above your head you just have the rank on the shoulder so people can know for grouping purposes.

[Cpt-Picard]

Itd be good if you could select your own uniform from any of the eras, but i like the Next Generation ones the best anyway, as well as the Kirk movie ones.

[ParkerHayden]

I noticed that the Andorian is the only one holding a weapon (a phaserifle, I might add) and I'm definitely sure that black/grey is the new Tac/Sec.

And my favorite series uniform is the DS9 style, because they look more "uniform" and not too flashy. Though, I'm content with the Cryptic uniforms.

[r2data]

Could he be a cadet? Because... as I recall... cadets wore solid grey jumpsuits.

Also... has anyone noticed that there are a couple of uniform styles there? One looks like VOY with coloured shoulder patches and black lower top while the others (blue and grey shirt) have black shoulder pads and coloured torsos reminiscent of the old TNG uniforms...

[Varrangian]

Could he be a cadet? Because... as I recall... cadets wore solid grey jumpsuits.

Also... has anyone noticed that there are a couple of uniform styles there? One looks like VOY with coloured shoulder patches and black lower top while the others (blue and grey shirt) have black shoulder pads and coloured torsos reminiscent of the old TNG uniforms...

Well to me it looks like the these are just reversals (like the ones with the color on top are Class A uniforms and the ones with the colors on the bottom are Class B uniforms).

While I don't think the Andorian is a Cadet (he is decidedly lower in rank than the others, so who knows. But I've seen cadet uniforms that vary depending on the time period.

[r2data]

Well to me it looks like the these are just reversals (like the ones with the color on top are Class A uniforms and the ones with the colors on the bottom are Class B uniforms).

While I don't think the Andorian is a Cadet (he is decidedly lower in rank than the others, so who knows. But I've seen cadet uniforms that vary depending on the time period.

Forgive me but I'm unfamiliar with Class A/Class B uniforms. What are they?

As for the cadet uniform... a lot of the modern variants are grey. Eg. Wesley Crusher, Red Squad, The cadets in Barclay's class in "VOY:Endgame"

[Genex]

I hope Medical are allowed over-coats like Dr Crusher and others having a 'Jacket' styled thing, (Like the one Picard has worn before), If I get an over-coat I'm happy, and I have a place to hide Hypos and Tri-Quarters :D

[Varrangian]

Forgive me but I'm unfamiliar with Class A/Class B uniforms. What are they?

As for the cadet uniform... a lot of the modern variants are grey. Eg. Wesley Crusher, Red Squad, The cadets in Barclay's class in "VOY:Endgame"

No need to ask for forgiveness, it would appear I used the wrong wording any way. In the military there are often Class A uniforms and Class B uniform. It would appear that for Star Trek there are a plethora of classes and variants :P Here is a link (clicky) (http://www.st-spike.org/pages/uniforms/2366-2372/uniforms.htm)

[yardbird]

Any way you cut it, my Gorn's going to look pretty awful in those threads.

[Varrangian]

Any way you cut it, my Gorn's going to look pretty awful in those threads.

Lol... well it is a gorn :p sorry couldn't help it

[Triatom]

I must agree with some of the people on here that the uniforms look a lot like late TNG/early DS9/Voyager. We obviously see a progression of uniform like what? Every 5 years it seems. (early TNG had different uniforms from late TNG and same goes with DS9) So lets see...30 years brings about 3-5 changes. Granted, these changes might not be huge, but from red to gray to red, well I can't see any progression in those uniforms. I have no problem with the way they look if you take them out of the timeline, but it doesn't seem like they fit 30 years from Nemesis.

[ParkerHayden]

I must agree with some of the people on here that the uniforms look a lot like late TNG/early DS9/Voyager. We obviously see a progression of uniform like what? Every 5 years it seems. (early TNG had different uniforms from late TNG and same goes with DS9) So lets see...30 years brings about 3-5 changes. Granted, these changes might not be huge, but from red to gray to red, well I can't see any progression in those uniforms. I have no problem with the way they look if you take them out of the timeline, but it doesn't seem like they fit 30 years from Nemesis.
The TOS movie uniforms lasted for a while, granted that's probably because there weren't any shows between then and TNG. Granted, they looked really cool.

[USS_Parallax]

YES! I was fearing another Stargate Worlds-like horror! I am pleased with the ST:O uniforms.

[MidniteAvenger]

I really like the uniforms they fit well with the feel of the series and respect cannon. I hope they have a variety though as some mission specific ships will have different uniform requirements, i.e. Mining, EVA or even .... Dare I say it...... Section 31!!!

[Drake1444]

I was actually kind of hoping for a different away team uniform. That's one thing that always bothered me about Star Trek. The beam down, sometimes in a war zone, and they still wear their standard, everyday clothes. Sure they're stylish but if you're going up against a blade-carrying Klingon are you sure that you want cloth to be your only protection? When I saw the drawings for the original STO I thought, "finally, someone figured out that war means tougher uniforms" and I hope that happens here too.

[DeaconX]

I love them as well, I think it's the white rim around the collar and sleeves that do it.

I really like them but I think the guy in your avatar looks like Jim Carrey in Star Trek hehehe

[curtst]

Forgive me but I'm unfamiliar with Class A/Class B uniforms. What are they?

As for the cadet uniform... a lot of the modern variants are grey. Eg. Wesley Crusher, Red Squad, The cadets in Barclay's class in "VOY:Endgame"

Class A uniforms (http://lh6.ggpht.com/_U9h66Er9CWE/SE0snoiS8bI/AAAAAAAAAys/vEsROBaJIMc/Brians+camera+016.jpg) are uniforms worn that requires formal attire. Just something that looks a little nicer. The link provided is a sample of a current class A uniform for the US Army. A class B uniform (http://home.fuse.net/digital_memories/Lamping/100_0621-B.gif) is pretty much the same exact thing minus the coat. The second link is an example of the class B US Army uniform.

Here is the equivalent Starfleet class A (http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/d/db/Dax_in_dress_uniform.jpg/180px-Dax_in_dress_uniform.jpg). Class B (http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/0/0b/GeordiLaForge2379.jpg/180px-GeordiLaForge2379.jpg) would be.

I personally like the darker uniforms from First Contact and DS9. So I hope we can make our uniforms similar.

[Irislynn]

I was actually kind of hoping for a different away team uniform. That's one thing that always bothered me about Star Trek. The beam down, sometimes in a war zone, and they still wear their standard, everyday clothes. Sure they're stylish but if you're going up against a blade-carrying Klingon are you sure that you want cloth to be your only protection? When I saw the drawings for the original STO I thought, "finally, someone figured out that war means tougher uniforms" and I hope that happens here too.

Ah- you know I really loved the uniforms in the trailer but I hadn't thought about that aspect of it. It does make total sense for there to be different away mission uniforms. Perhaps something tougher and more armor-ish looking than their normal clothes, for sure. You make a really great point.

[Neshy]

the rectangular pips are an intresting addition

[Trekkie]

I also really liked the uniform designs from the trailer and think that they fit the game perfectly. I did like the designs that Perpetual Entertainment had created for their version of the game, but I think overall that the versions Cryptic Studios has chosen are for the best.

[HugoVN]

I personally liked the PE uniforms that i saw more, they evolved and were more futuristic. They had like different shields depending on class and seemed more upgradeable. I was hoping for a uniform redesign, just cause its in the futur.

[Deletham_Tomalak]

I like them quite a bit as well though they strike me as being somewhat over formal...almost like a dress uniform they need to have a bit more of a landing party feel to them. Pockets, holsters, field jackets, etc. TWOK had a great idea going with the field jackets, gave a distinct feel that they were away from the ship. Had pockets, pouches etc. The Cage (Original Pilot) had great jackets as well really implied that it was an AWAY mission not a stroll through the holodeck

[Varrangian]

I like them quite a bit as well though they strike me as being somewhat over formal...almost like a dress uniform they need to have a bit more of a landing party feel to them. Pockets, holsters, field jackets, etc. TWOK had a great idea going with the field jackets, gave a distinct feel that they were away from the ship. Had pockets, pouches etc. The Cage (Original Pilot) had great jackets as well really implied that it was an AWAY mission not a stroll through the holodeck

Well as I've stated, I'd like the ability to have multiple styles to choose from. Meaning if I'm going down to a planet to meet with a representative of a people I'd like to recruit into the Federation I would like to look formal and professional.

If I'm going into a war zone I want to be properly decked out.

[RogueEnterprise]

the rectangular pips are an intresting addition

Don't they appear to be in the same location and shape as the rank insignia from Enterprise, but just magnified 5x?

[Power_Play]

The Klingon uniforms looked woefully incomplete...no vambraces/gloves, kneepads/boots (with bootspikes).

[Koroth]

I see no reason the uniforms must have changed simply because time passed. Intelligent organizations follow the motto "If it's not broken, don't fix it." Although uniforms changed in the movies and modern series, I suspect that had to do with retaining viewer interest and trying to establish each series as its own beast (not to mention letting a number of designers show their "take" on Trek fashion).

As a matter of style, I hope the wearing of special equipment will be limited to special situations. I'd hate for Starfleet to need to wear body armor at all times, for instance. It wouldn't look Trek no matter how much sense it made in game terms. Klingons, on the other hand, would look odd without it. :)

- Koroth

[Drake1444]

Ah- you know I really loved the uniforms in the trailer but I hadn't thought about that aspect of it. It does make total sense for there to be different away mission uniforms. Perhaps something tougher and more armor-ish looking than their normal clothes, for sure. You make a really great point.

Thanks, I hope the devs think so too. The military today still uses various uniforms for different environments. Think jungle, snow, and desert uniforms. Enterprise did it a little during it's run; something which I liked about the show.

[mrenblack]

Is black/grey uniform not the cadet with no direction.
I remeber nog had an black/grey uniform in ds9 (only one episode) when he was an cadet.

[Saerain]

I am also in love with the uniforms. They're one of the few visual aspects so far that I have no problem with.

I see no reason the uniforms must have changed simply because time passed. Intelligent organizations follow the motto "If it's not broken, don't fix it." They do change simply due to changing production values behind the scenes, but it is also worth noting that military uniforms today change constantly and always have. Add to that the fact that Starfleet is highly science-driven and you have even less room for stagnation.

Science, and therein all aspects of technology, isn't a matter of anything being 'broken' or not, but the constant competition of ideas which never cease to be tested or challenged. There's conceivably no end to such escalating improvements.

It seems silly to apply this to something as trivial as clothing, perhaps, but I had to respond to that famous phrase, as it is more of a layman's work ethic than any kind of verifiably good principle.

[Varrangian]

It seems silly to apply this to something as trivial as clothing, perhaps, but I had to respond to that famous phrase, as it is more of a layman's work ethic than any kind of verifiably good principle.

It is interesting, when it comes to the "improvement" of clothing, I couldn't help but think of some of the nano-technology projects in process for the military and I've always wondering how that might get integrated into Trek, or if it never really will since it hasn't already.

[HugoVN]

It's not that I dont like the new uniforms its just i was excited by what PE was offering
http://img.presence-pc.com/news/s/t/Star%20treksm.JPG
They are advanced and I was excited for classes and different shields and gadgets depending on that class.
I donno it just seems like a downgrade in my excitement level. I still have faith though.

[Kudos17]

When they made the Second ST movie, the whole cast refused to do the movie unless they changed the uniforms.

The uniforms in ST 1 were horrible, but I did like the uniforms in the movies since then.

I think Cryptic moved away from the grey uniforms because they all look the same on the computer screen. The classic shoulder colour is much better.

[Wraiven]

Agreed. I liked them, however I do hope that the uniforms are also customizable as costumes are in CoH/CoV.

[Acelan]

Yeah, the new uniforms rock. So far a uniform customization, I say that doesn't sound very Starfleet, a uniform is what it's name says, uniform...........:cool:

[Richman12]

I myself think that the indivdual player should have a say in what uniforms he can or can't wear because this is more or less a matter of customization.

[Wraiven]

Yeah, the new uniforms rock. So far a uniform customization, I say that doesn't sound very Starfleet, a uniform is what it's name says, uniform...........:cool:

Heh, very true, but as we all know, there are also Uniforms for social occasions and or diplomatic occasions. :p

[Kudos17]

I could see some uniform customization within limits though, especally for Star fleet officers, more for klingons.

[Fluxion]

I agree with those who like the uniforms. I thought they looked fantastic. :)

[MrDAPs]

I myself think that the indivdual player should have a say in what uniforms he can or can't wear because this is more or less a matter of customization.

I love this idea! I think it'd be a blast.

On a side note, wonder why they didn't use something more similar to the movie uniforms.

[11710]

They are much better than the PE uniforms. However, I still prefer the TNG movies/latter DS9 uniforms.

I know Cryptic likes customization (my CoH character has 4 different looks) so I'm hoping they allow players to use retro uniforms if they wish.

I would like that a great deal.

[Supergeek]

All you people criticising, or even LIKING, the trailer graphics -- they've had the Star Trek IP for what, 2 months or so? It's very likely everything you've seen will change before release, so don't get upset about it, or get used to it.

Realistically, all Starfleet officers aside from the captain should wear recognizable colors associated with function so that in the case of a battle environment, you know what kind of person you're interacting with. "I need a doctor, there's a blue uniform!" Just like rank, it allows for efficiency.

The captain should have the freedom to choose, based on skill set closest to a class like security, medical, science, etc, OR a color outside of these boundaries, combining colors based on their discipline or whim.

I would like to see the option to wear different styles according to taste, and everyone on your ship wears that style. These styles would be along the lines of ALL of the outfits from the various shows and movies, and many more.

There should be the option of a jacket (for the captain only perhaps), piping, stripes, patches, ribbons, cummerbund, belt, kerchief, sash, and limited jewelry (since they can be a liability in combat).

[MajorD]

I myself think that the indivdual player should have a say in what uniforms he can or can't wear because this is more or less a matter of customization.
There's actually some precedence for this in the shows. Throughout TNG, even in later seasons, we saw uniforms on crewmen from the first season. In DS9, we also saw older uniforms used by crews of ships passing through at least in one instance, I think the episode The Jem'Hadar. But anything further back than a decade would be weird.

Besides, the trailer uniform is very good, catching some vibe of the TOS uniform with its distinctively separate top from the pants. Also, the rank pips are very large and in a much more visible placement, over all making them more visible, which is very important since the characters will only be a few inches tall on most screens. So, they really put some thought into these uniforms, and they definitely sit with me better than the old company's uniforms, which were too much of a departure from the Trek we know.

[MidniteAvenger]

Looked at the guy in grey a little more closely. He's only got one pip which would make him an ensign, so he's probably wearing the cadet's uniform. I don't think such a low ranking security officer would be sent down with a regular detail away team.

Just my opinion. Open to speculation.

[mirkrim]

I don't like the trailer uniforms. For one, they are too varied. Someone already said it but it bears repeating: a uniform is meant to be exactly that: uniform.

Secondly, if Cryptic wants to change the uniforms from the previous iteration (First Contact/DS9), they should make the change more obvious. Right now they look too similar to the Voyager uniforms (coloured shoulders, black jacket/pants); it seems like a backward evolution rather than a forward one.

Regarding customization: rather than huge uniform customization, I'd rather have the ability to choose a personal set from an array of stock uniforms and change my appearance any time I want, like LOTRO's outfit system. This would actually be canon: we've seen characters in the series wearing uniform variants, most notably the vest.

Cryptic could stiill show off their customization specialty by having a vast collection of off-duty clothing items that players could create "sets" out of. Perhaps players could even create unique clothes and sell them, which would help fuel the ingame economy. I think this would be much better than compromising the military nature of Starfleet with uniform "mods".

[qantravon]

I just took a closer look at the trailer, and here's my thoughts on what they did with the Starfleet uniforms. The gray most probably indicates security/tactical, which makes good sense from any standpoint. I never really understood why they lumped security and ops/engineering together like that, anyway. Also, I think they made the science and security uniforms inverted from the command and ops uniforms, to increase visibility. It makes them stand out more, for quicker identification. This was probably a decision made from a gameplay perspective.

[Commodore_Smith]

red = comm , yellow = eng , teal = med , grey green = Marine . thats my take. the grey green uniformed toon is the only one in that segment that has a weapon, phaser rifle, leading me to think its not grey only but grey green meaning marine.... tactical could still be yellow, being a ship weapon toon and the grey green being SF marine focusing on away mission combat.
EDIT sci = still teal, btw.

[MajorD]

red = comm , yellow = eng , teal = med , grey green = Marine . thats my take. the grey green uniformed toon is the only one in that segment that has a weapon, phaser rifle, leading me to think its not grey only but grey green meaning marine.... tactical could still be yellow, being a ship weapon toon and the grey green being SF marine focusing on away mission combat.
EDIT sci = still teal, btw.

There was no green uniform, the guy with the phaser rifle had black shoulders with grey bottom portion. Green being for Marines is a fan thing anyway, not a bad fan thing, though. Although, I would like it if they were called Espatiers.

[Omega990]

i'd like to be able to customize the uniform for my ship, like in TOS each ship had its own badge. a ship should be allowed certain variations in uniform while still being able to tell its Star fleet. then again i'd also like to be able to beam down to a planet with an RRT or some MACO's with Phaser SMG's, TR-116 (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/TR-116)'s and a couple of those 'Argo' (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Argo_%28buggy%29) things

[MajorD]

i'd like to be able to customize the uniform for my ship, like in TOS each ship had its own badge. a ship should be allowed certain variations in uniform while still being able to tell its Star fleet. then again i'd also like to be able to beam down to a planet with an RRT or some MACO's with Phaser SMG's, TR-116 (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/TR-116)'s and a couple of those 'Argo' (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Argo_%28buggy%29) things
Ground vehicles, now that's an idea, but the Argo sucked balls. Star Trek vehicles should not have wheels!

[SelorKiith]

Just give those damn Jackets Belts like the gold old Classic Movie Era Uniforms and I'm satisfied with the design^^
But I think it doesn't look very neat with just a long jacket, maybe for a Galadressuniform but not for In-Service Uniforms