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Nasedo
08-08-2008, 05:07 PM
hey guys im new and this is my first post on the forums and want to ask something
what kind of Engine is STO useing? anyone have any idea??
i just hope it isn't some crappy one. like the one SWG used.. anyone have the engine name of SWG's engine? by the way?
thanks
TheDart
08-08-2008, 05:08 PM
STO is using the Cryptic engine. We haven't seen it in action yet, since this and Champions Online will be the first games to use it.
Nasedo
08-08-2008, 05:12 PM
STO is using the Cryptic engine. We haven't seen it in action yet, since this and Champions Online will be the first games to use it.
Cryptic engine.. great.. just great.. sounds like a COH/COV engine to me. anyone got the name of this engine so i can research it?
and find out if its the same as COH/COV? i want a good engine to play with. and hope these's dev's are fair and do a good job
TheDart
08-08-2008, 05:15 PM
That... is the name. The Cryptic engine.
It is not the same engine used by CoH/CoV. It is new.
The_Padre
08-08-2008, 05:15 PM
what kind of Engine is STO useing? anyone have any idea??
I so wanted to say a Warp Engine when I read this.
TheDart
08-08-2008, 05:16 PM
I so wanted to say a Warp Engine when I read this.
A Quantum Slipstream engine, with warp- and character customization capabilities the Federation has heretofore only ever dreamed of. :eek:
Kinjiru
08-08-2008, 05:17 PM
This was posted on Nvidia's site, specifically dealing with CoH:
The proprietary Cryptic engine used in City of Heroes is at the forefront of next generation graphics technology. The game engine takes full advantage of the GeForce4 chipset through extensive use of vertex and pixel shaders. Cityscapes are composed of millions of triangles and character models are skinned, bump-mapped, and animated using vertex and pixel shaders. Progressive detail layering and high-resolution anti-aliasing combine to immerse you in the super hero universe.
Nasedo
08-08-2008, 05:18 PM
That... is the name. The Cryptic engine.
It is not the same engine used by CoH/CoV. It is new.
oh thank god..
how does it play. ?? has any one seen this in action? and how (NEW) is it?
The_Padre
08-08-2008, 05:18 PM
This was posted on Nvidia's site, specifically dealing with CoH:
The new engine is considerably more advanced overall though.
Cyjack
08-08-2008, 05:20 PM
I so wanted to say a Warp Engine when I read this.
Dammit! I wish I had thought of that first.
Cryptic engine.. great.. just great.. sounds like a COH/COV engine to me. anyone got the name of this engine so i can research it?
Its their proprietary next generation game engine, for their new stable of games (theyve got at least one more in the works besides CO and STO) It is not the CoX engine. Like all game engines its flexible, and can accomodate different looks and outputs.
Fvillha
08-08-2008, 05:20 PM
Last I heard Cryptic uses the Hero Engine (http://www.heroengine.com/) (there's a video of hoe the engine is used by the devs to make a world environment, too. Unless Cryptic has changed/update to a different engine for ST:O I supect the information at the link will show you what it's able to do.
The_Padre
08-08-2008, 05:20 PM
oh thank god..
how does it play. ?? has any one seen this in action? and how (NEW) is it?
Some media sites got the chance to play Champions Online recently and were very impressed with how it played, however we shouldn't expect it to play the same way for STO.
Kinjiru
08-08-2008, 05:20 PM
The new engine is considerably more advanced overall though.
Oh, I know, I was just posting that so we'd have a frame of reference. (I should've said that though.) :)
The_Padre
08-08-2008, 05:21 PM
Last I heard Cryptic uses the Hero Engine (http://www.heroengine.com/) .Unless Cryptic has changed/update to a different engine for ST:O I supect the information at the link will show you what it's able to do.
They built their own in-house engine.
Nasedo
08-08-2008, 05:22 PM
This was posted on Nvidia's site, specifically dealing with CoH:
Quote:
The proprietary Cryptic engine used in City of Heroes is at the forefront of next generation graphics technology. The game engine takes full advantage of the GeForce4 chipset through extensive use of vertex and pixel shaders. Cityscapes are composed of millions of triangles and character models are skinned, bump-mapped, and animated using vertex and pixel shaders. Progressive detail layering and high-resolution anti-aliasing combine to immerse you in the super hero universe.
so what one is it the COH Engine or a hole new one?
The_Padre
08-08-2008, 05:24 PM
Quote:
The proprietary Cryptic engine used in City of Heroes is at the forefront of next generation graphics technology. The game engine takes full advantage of the GeForce4 chipset through extensive use of vertex and pixel shaders. Cityscapes are composed of millions of triangles and character models are skinned, bump-mapped, and animated using vertex and pixel shaders. Progressive detail layering and high-resolution anti-aliasing combine to immerse you in the super hero universe.
so what one is it the COH Engine or a hole new one?
New engine, CoH uses their old game engine.
Cyjack
08-08-2008, 05:24 PM
so what one is it the COH Engine or a hole new one?
Every other post in this thread has answered that question...read up.
Kinjiru
08-08-2008, 05:24 PM
Quote:
The proprietary Cryptic engine used in City of Heroes is at the forefront of next generation graphics technology. The game engine takes full advantage of the GeForce4 chipset through extensive use of vertex and pixel shaders. Cityscapes are composed of millions of triangles and character models are skinned, bump-mapped, and animated using vertex and pixel shaders. Progressive detail layering and high-resolution anti-aliasing combine to immerse you in the super hero universe.
so what one is it the COH Engine or a hole new one?
I'd assume that it's been improved, similar to the constant updates to the Unreal engine.
oh thank god..
how does it play. ?? has any one seen this in action? and how (NEW) is it?
I don't know how anyone can get more clear. Brand new. We've never played anything using it, no. As Dart said, this and CO will be the first games using it.
However, we do know it was specifically designed to address many of the shortcomings of the CoH/CoV engine, including hardcoded abilities and VFX, among other things that were ongoing limitation problems in CoH, and we know that it has been designed to expand customization options many times over from what CoH allows, is expandably into the future as graphics detai needs change, and is in general pretty flexible and robust.
However, it's worth noting that engines, when written well, have very LITTLE bearing on how a game looks and plays. It's simply a flexible foundation on which the games are built.
Nasedo
08-08-2008, 05:26 PM
Every other post in this thread has answered that question...read up.
i am but people are giving different answers
Last I heard Cryptic uses the Hero Engine (http://www.heroengine.com/) (there's a video of hoe the engine is used by the devs to make a world environment, too. Unless Cryptic has changed/update to a different engine for ST:O I supect the information at the link will show you what it's able to do.
Incorrect. Cryptic has never used the Hero Engine. You're confusing it with the HERO System, by Hero Games (http://www.herogames.com/home.htm), which is the tabletop RPG system that the Champions tabletop RPG was designed on.
Cyjack
08-08-2008, 05:32 PM
i am but people are giving different answers
Well, youre right, unfortunately. Some people are not well informed. Heres the deal from Cryptics website:
Cryptic utilizes a proprietary MMO engine that contains all the tools needed to efficiently build and operate massive online games. Developed in house, the engine continues to be upgraded and adjusted by its original creators to improve the engine's versatility and functionality. In addition, Efficient content generation tools have been incorporated to streamline the development process, allowing real time testing of art assets within the game environment.
Its their own engine. They made it. It is the next generation of their engine , designed to power their new line of games , of which CO and STO are only two. They may have at least one more in some stage of development.
Well, youre right, unfortunately. Some people are not well informed. Heres the deal from Cryptics website:
Its their own engine. They made it. It is the next generation of their engine , designed to power their new line of games , of which CO and STO are only two. They may have at least one more in some stage of development.
No 'may' about it-- they've said officially before that the engine is being used on CO and two(at the time) unannounced titles. One of those was clearly STO. I'm holding out hope that the other one is going to be GSaW Online. :D
TheDart
08-08-2008, 05:40 PM
No 'may' about it-- they've said officially before that the engine is being used on CO and two(at the time) unannounced titles. One of those was clearly STO. I'm holding out hope that the other one is going to be GSaW Online. :D
Girl Shooting at Wolves Online will be the greatest game ever.
On_Demand
08-08-2008, 05:52 PM
Also, it's called the Game Tech engine(or GT engine).
KO_Gilligan
08-08-2008, 06:21 PM
Also, it's called the Game Tech engine(or GT engine).
Also referred to as the PWMGJUICEo'tehGODZ Engine
Cyjack
08-08-2008, 06:23 PM
No 'may' about it-- they've said officially before that the engine is being used on CO and two(at the time) unannounced titles. One of those was clearly STO. I'm holding out hope that the other one is going to be GSaW Online. :D
Actually, I think It's a Warmachine (Privateer Press Steampunk Minis game) game, and have built a case to support my theory:
http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?p=206392#post206392
TheDart
08-08-2008, 06:30 PM
Actually, I think It's a Warmachine (Privateer Press Steampunk Minis game) game
Steampunk
YES PLEASE
i frikkin love steampunk you guys
rickcody
08-08-2008, 06:31 PM
That... is the name. The Cryptic engine.
It is not the same engine used by CoH/CoV. It is new.
Sounds awfully...Cryptic...
Actually, I think It's a Warmachine (Privateer Press Steampunk Minis game) game, and have built a case to support my theory:
http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?p=206392#post206392
Don't care, still holding out hope it's GSaW (which, for the uninitiated, would be a reference to the concept art on the Cryptic Website of-- say it with me-- A Girl Shooting At Wolves).
I know said game is on their list, in whatever form it actually exists, so it's likely coming eventually. I just love the concepts behind the concept art.
KO_Gilligan
08-08-2008, 07:10 PM
In support of Cyjack's WarMachine theory, I have created an image for comparison.
Cryptic art is the right side - Warmachine on the left
I'd say he is either correct, or there was, at least, an obvious inspirational source... :D
Exhibit A (http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/5099/warhv3.gif)
Arcturus
08-08-2008, 07:25 PM
Anything but "Pirates of the Burning Space"
mintor426
08-08-2008, 08:29 PM
Cryptic engine.. great.. just great.. sounds like a COH/COV engine to me. anyone got the name of this engine so i can research it?
and find out if its the same as COH/COV? i want a good engine to play with. and hope these's dev's are fair and do a good job
the engine . http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=15253