Create entirely new races?

[USS_Parallax]

There are 150-200ish species within the Federation. There are some non-Federation species which get admitted to starfleet but I would imagine that wouldn't add more then another 100 or so and even that sounds like a high number.
It's a potentially cool function but I don't really want to see 10,000 different races within the Federation.

[Cyjack]

It's a potentially cool function but I don't really want to see 10,000 different races within the Federation.

Racist?

The federation is all about inclusivity.

[yardbird]

Oh give us more more more.

Race customization = big boon.

[AaronH]

I can understand your concern, might have to try and develop some blinders to avoid some of the more rediculous things people might create.

Ultimately though, I wouldn't be too concerned about seeing too many different alien races out there. I would imagine most NPCs will be the standard trek races, and a good number of players will want to play their favorite trek race. So ya, you'll see aliens you have never seen before, but I don't think you will see too many of them.

[Yavin_Prime]

I love the idea of creating my own race, that means I'm going to be able to play anything I want mabey even some trek races which would have never otherwise been released *rubs chin in thought*.

The question is how will it work, obviously races have to have some lore behind them (especialy if your a big RPer), so how will you be able to determine the home planet of your new race and such?

[Acidrain]

Hmmm, interesting though iam not sure about the entire creating my own race iam more interested in playing one of the many different races such as Andorian. Though thinking about it more, perhaps that is what they mean by making your own races having the ability to create one of the many different races of the ST Universe.

[Reinkaos]

I only want to be a hu-mon.

[ParkerHayden]

I strongly dislike this idea, even if Trek is about discovering new life.

And, people, don't get your imaginations too far out there. You can probably only make humanoids. So don't even think about making a race of genital monsters.

[USS_Parallax]

I can see it now...

Genital-Face species everywhere.

[Kinjiru]

I strongly dislike this idea, even if Trek is about discovering new life.

And, people, don't get your imaginations too far out there. You can probably only make humanoids. So don't even think about making a race of genital monsters.

lol! Genital Monsters!

Behold the great One Eyed Willie!

[ParkerHayden]

I can see it now...

Genital-Face species everywhere.
MIB reference?

[USS_Parallax]

I strongly dislike this idea, even if Trek is about discovering new life.

And, people, don't get your imaginations too far out there. You can probably only make humanoids. So don't even think about making a race of genital monsters.

I posted mine before I even read yours. Looks like we both know what'll happen! It happened to Spore and the game ain't even out yet. :rolleyes:

[Blackfire2]

Well if there is anything I've learned from playing RPG's and MMO's over the years, is that if a player wants to abuse something for some undisclosed advantage, intentionally or not, they will. I'm sure there will be safeguards in place to prevent abuse or for that matter for copyright purposes preventing some things bieng made. As an example I'm sure there will be no way for a star wars species to be made outright, perhaps something that looks similar but not an exact copy.

[LordDave]

I welcome this. It'll probably be more of a "Add cradial ridges. Make them less pointy. Space the eyes farther apart. Make him bald. Green skin. ect... Little things like that rather then a spore like design.

[ParkerHayden]

I welcome this. It'll probably be more of a "Add cradial ridges. Make them less pointy. Space the eyes farther apart. Make him bald. Green skin. ect... Little things like that rather then a spore like design.
Vulcans with green mohawks.

[Kinjiru]

w00t! More forehead ridges. God I hope not.

[The_Padre]

Judging by the more flexible skeletal options for Champions Online we may see stuff as diverse as Species 8472.

[Kinjiru]

Judging by the more flexible skeletal options for Champions Online we may see stuff as diverse as Species 8472.

Hehe, so we'll have a very diverse, but ugly looking Starfleet. :D

[The_Padre]

Hehe, so we'll have a very diverse, but ugly looking Starfleet. :D

First Officer to the Captain: "Sir I'd like to introduce our new security chief, Lt. Cmdr Donkey" :D

[Kinjiru]

First Officer to the Captain: "Sir I'd like to introduce our new security chief, Lt. Cmdr Donkey" :D

Well, they had a "Broccoli", why not? lol.

[smalvarado]

First Officer to the Captain: "Sir I'd like to introduce our new security chief, Lt. Cmdr Donkey" :D

"And in the morning, I'm replicatin' WAFFLES!" :D

[ob1klone]

I can understand your concern, might have to try and develop some blinders to avoid some of the more rediculous things people might create.

Ultimately though, I wouldn't be too concerned about seeing too many different alien races out there. I would imagine most NPCs will be the standard trek races, and a good number of players will want to play their favorite trek race. So ya, you'll see aliens you have never seen before, but I don't think you will see too many of them.


The Titan books have a dinosaur for a doctor. I can only imagine what people will come up with.

[smalvarado]

Well, Champions Online uses on mesh that has a bunch of customizable options: height, weight, arm length, leg length, stance to name a few. I'm guessing since STO will use the same technology, we'll get at least that. Add to that foreheads, noses, ears, eyes, hair, horns, antennae, skin color, skin texture, skin markings, and probably cultural things in the same vain as the Bajoran earrings. I'm basing this off my experience with the existing tech in City of Heroes/Villains, and recent articles about Champions Online. If they stick with a single mesh (like in CO), then I guess we'll be limited to a humanoid form. Sounds exciting!

[The_Padre]

Well, Champions Online uses on mesh that has a bunch of customizable options: height, weight, arm length, leg length, stance to name a few. I'm guessing since STO will use the same technology, we'll get at least that. Add to that foreheads, noses, ears, eyes, hair, horns, antennae, skin color, skin texture, skin markings, and probably cultural things in the same vain as the Bajoran earrings. I'm basing this off my experience with the existing tech in City of Heroes/Villains, and recent articles about Champions Online. If they stick with a single mesh (like in CO), then I guess we'll be limited to a humanoid form. Sounds exciting!

This was in one of the devblogs over on the Champions site:

Are there going to be asymmetrical costume options like one armed jackets/trench coats or a mutated arm? (TruthSeer)

BraiNEateR (Art Development Director): We have put together some pretty awesome asymmetrical costumes. Obviously having asymmetrical leg lengths would cause more nightmares than it is worth, but we will be allowing arms, hands and feet to be scaled separately along with leg width.

Source: http://www.champions-online.com/dev_blog/ask_cryptic_5-16-08

It should be noted that you may also get multi-limbed characters as well, one of the villains named Grond for example has four arms.

[Colm]

Might be fun, but with all the crazy kevins out there, I doubt we'll still feel we're in Star Trek with vulcan drows, ferengi hobgoblins and space hobbits. Please...

[Reinkaos]

Klingon/Andorian offspring..

[Richman12]

If what you guys are say is true people might make a race of creatures that have tails or something though I don't see the practicail use of a tail other than an it would look cool factor.

[IanD967]

the only two things i dont want to see is:

millions of little "hobbit" type people like there are in CoX games
millions of little "hobbit" type people with big freaking muscles like there are in CoX games

[Chronotope]

I don't know, I think this is a big way to bring in people, especially players who may not have come in as hard core Star Trek fans.

[J.L.Picard]

Racist?

The federation is all about inclusivity.[/COLOR]

for starters Starfleeet shouldn't allow anyone outside the federation to join since they are at the core a military organisation.
Lastly the OP isnt talking about having different races hes talking about CREATING new races. This is simply stupid not to mention idiotic. were da hell is these species home planet gonna be?? not to mention the fact that all of these races will have NOTHING to do with ST. this is the biggest mistake they will make that has the potential to destroy the game.

[bitgolem]

I suspect the 'new' races are going to be halfbreeds of the established races. I would love to have a half Klingon, half Vulcan, raised on Qo'Nos.

[J.L.Picard]

I suspect the 'new' races are going to be halfbreeds of the established races. I would love to have a half Klingon, half Vulcan, raised on Qo'Nos.
thats not a bad idea. but even so they arn't new races really. That Vingon(LMFAO) would probably look like a Vulcan except he would be brown with the ridges. not new traits except for possible internal organs which you wouldnt see anyway.

[NightWatcher]

I like making my own race leaves open possibilities.

[USS_Parallax]

Data was pretty darned unique. Now I fully expect people to use this race creator to fill the Federation to the brim with custom made androids.

[Barnjohn]

You'll probably only be able to make species with 'parts' from existing Trek species such as Bajoran nose-ridges and Vulcan eyebrows/ears.

[Dext]

IT will be good for RP you can come up with your own back story an on the place you come from

[yardbird]

I think the option is, on balance, useful.

I doubt they'll let people go hog-wild. We shan't see astro-globules or Horta captaining starships. Trek fans are loyal, by and large, and will mostly prefer Klingons and Vulcans, or some of the traditional lesser races. Humans usually predominate anyway. And it is in the classic spirit of Trek to be open to alien lifeforms.

[AlmightyKaz]

I'm up for creating your own race but only humanoid. If their was a 'Create your own Race' I would really like it to be fully customizable and with that I mean being able to really change physical attriubutes like where the heart is located or if your race even has a heart or a completely different biology...know what I mean?

Getting to pick peoples created races as well would own hard.

[AlmightyKaz]

.................................................. ....

[Gara000]

Spore online.

[USS_Parallax]

Spore creatures are hideous. The customization in that game, though technically very good, was disappointing. I hope we don't get THAT much freedom.

[Borgie]

Spore creatures are hideous. The customization in that game, though technically very good, was disappointing. I hope we don't get THAT much freedom.

I agree with you COMPL33TLY! LOL, but seriously I agree with you.

[walkingshark]

There are 150-200ish species within the Federation. There are some non-Federation species which get admitted to starfleet but I would imagine that wouldn't add more then another 100 or so and even that sounds like a high number.
It's a potentially cool function but I don't really want to see 10,000 different races within the Federation.

Considering the time lapse from Nemesis, it is hardly surprising that any number of new races will have applied for membership in the federation and been granded admission. Especially considering the fact that the Federation has crushed everyone who has ever stepped to them, while providing services, support, and mutual defense to all their members... frankly I'd be shocked if the Federation wasn't running the entire galaxy within 100 years of Nemesis, especially now that they have beaten holy hell out of the freakin Borg, who up till then were basically the number one race native to the Galaxy.

So yeah, 10,000 races within the Federation isn't that out of bounds.

[Borgie]

Considering the time lapse from Nemesis, it is hardly surprising that any number of new races will have applied for membership in the federation and been granded admission. Especially considering the fact that the Federation has crushed everyone who has ever stepped to them, while providing services, support, and mutual defense to all their members... frankly I'd be shocked if the Federation wasn't running the entire galaxy within 100 years of Nemesis, especially now that they have beaten holy hell out of the freakin Borg, who up till then were basically the number one race native to the Galaxy.

So yeah, 10,000 races within the Federation isn't that out of bounds.

We don't know for a fact that that much damage was dealt 2 teh Borg.

[walkingshark]

for starters Starfleeet shouldn't allow anyone outside the federation to join since they are at the core a military organisation.
Lastly the OP isnt talking about having different races hes talking about CREATING new races. This is simply stupid not to mention idiotic. were da hell is these species home planet gonna be?? not to mention the fact that all of these races will have NOTHING to do with ST. this is the biggest mistake they will make that has the potential to destroy the game.

Wow. Hang on, let me use this sledge on my frontal lobes a few times so I can brain damage myself down to your level.

Ok then. Starfleet is the military arm of the Federation, and is answerable directly to the Federation council. The Federation is NOT militaristic in general, and the only reason Federation starships are so heavily armed by the Nemesis time frame is because outside agressors are continually attacking the Federation.

As for home planets, you obviously have no grasp on just how amazingly hugenormic the Galaxy is. I mean seriously, it is really, really big. Considering Star Trek lore has clearly established that just about anywhere there is a class M planet with life on it, there is an intelligent humanoid race lurking somewhere on its surface (or was at one time), I think that finding home planets for any number of player created races should be no problem at all.

Did you even watch Star Trek? Especially Next Generation, about half the episodes of which dealt with an encounter with some random alien race with a slightly different pattern of bumps on their head/spots.

Seriously, its like some of you people's only experience with Star Trek was playing a few of the more recent games.

[LordDave]

for starters Starfleeet shouldn't allow anyone outside the federation to join since they are at the core a military organisation.
Lastly the OP isnt talking about having different races hes talking about CREATING new races. This is simply stupid not to mention idiotic. were da hell is these species home planet gonna be?? not to mention the fact that all of these races will have NOTHING to do with ST. this is the biggest mistake they will make that has the potential to destroy the game.

Uuuuhhhhh......

"It's 5 year mission: To explore strange new worlds. To seek out new life, and new civilizations. To boldly go where no man has gone before"
Star Trek has thousands of species. Just because you only see 5 throughout the show doesn't mean they don't exist.
And if they design the galaxy with the dynamic system creation stuff like Earth Quest Infinity (or whatever it's called) then you can make a home planet. Granted, don't expect to custom create the whole civilization, but why not? Hell just make up a name and, if you approach the planet, have them say something like "We don't need help right now, thank you."

[walkingshark]

We don't know for a fact that that much damage was dealt 2 teh Borg.

Well, considering they blew up their intergalacitc transit network and the Borc didn't immidiately turn around and send every Cube in the Galaxy straight for Earth, I'm guessing they're hurting pretty bad :)

[Borgie]

Well, considering they blew up their intergalacitc transit network and the Borc didn't immidiately turn around and send every Cube in the Galaxy straight for Earth, I'm guessing they're hurting pretty bad :)

They could have second unicomplex, and the Borg don't take revenge, as it is irrelevant, they probably think it is illogical 2 do that bacause Voyager did destroy the one unicomplex...

[Richman12]

They could have second unicomplex, and the Borg don't take revenge, as it is irrelevant, they probably think it is illogical 2 do that bacause Voyager did destroy the one unicomplex...

Yeah and don't forget the borg are intergalactic and thier for have many queens and unicomplex's in other galaxys so exepect to see them down the road.

[AlmightyKaz]

Well, considering they blew up their intergalacitc transit network and the Borc didn't immidiately turn around and send every Cube in the Galaxy straight for Earth, I'm guessing they're hurting pretty bad :)

lol, you sir are a legend.

[naynayz]

The borg have penetrated several areas outside the galaxy. Voyager taught us that. There is a whole universe. Gene was concerned that transwarp would ruin the franchise. I think that it was a great building block and has inspired scientists for decades to make what we see on Star Trek. It shall continue to do so even as we explore this galaxy more and eventually outside of the galaxy. If the borg can, we can to!

[ngille]

I heard him mentioned about creating your own race and I actually got excited. I think this is a feature that will help set this game in front of the pack.

According to the haililng frequency interview we will be customizing stats on the race we create also we will be naming the planets we discover....make a race, discover a planet and name it your homeplanet!

I don't understand why these forums seem to be in such an uproar, sure there are some things missing that we'd all like to see but damn some of the features they are giving us just flat out rock!!

[Acidrain]

Considering the time lapse from Nemesis, it is hardly surprising that any number of new races will have applied for membership in the federation and been granded admission. Especially considering the fact that the Federation has crushed everyone who has ever stepped to them, while providing services, support, and mutual defense to all their members... frankly I'd be shocked if the Federation wasn't running the entire galaxy within 100 years of Nemesis, especially now that they have beaten holy hell out of the freakin Borg, who up till then were basically the number one race native to the Galaxy.

So yeah, 10,000 races within the Federation isn't that out of bounds.

We also dont know the situation in which after and what type of state the federation was left in after the Dominion war which destroyed alot of the fleets of the federation, Klingon's and Romulus and we don't know if the Dominion on the Alpha Quadrant established there own home world there is no way to know. We don't know if there is going to be breen, dominion which would be awesome!

[J.L.Picard]

I'm sorry i dont think you quiet understand the consequences of this.

Were are all these new races going to come from?? what planet's or systems??

This game will have people creating random 1 off races that would never exist in ST.

its called STAR TREK online STAR TREK being the keywords here. its not called space online. the federation has 150+ planets and some planets have more then one sentient life form who have achieved warp speed. Xindi being a prime example. basically this means taht withing th Federation alone there are around 200 alien races probably more and now you want to be adding your own made up race that has NOWHERE to call home has never been or will ever be referenced in anything Star Trek. I'm all up for variations being able to create someone of mixed race e.g. Vulcan/Human or Human/Klingon is great because alot of these characters are favourites the main example being Spock or even Torres(i thought she was cool) but when you start seeing neon coloured aliens with 3 antennae and 4 arms its going above and beyond the call of what is necessary.

My problem is not with the edition of races, I'm up for that AS LONG as its relative to Star Trek. Instead of giving people the option of creating pointless races give them 150+ races to choose from at the start. I personaly want to see more then one member of my species.

Walking shard give me a sec to knock the crap you just said out of my head. at any point in my post did you see me call the federation militaristic NO the reason for there new vessels being heavily armed not applicable Federation vessels have always carried weapons. Next I do know how big the galaxy is BUT how many aliens have you seen actively serving in the Klingon Empire?? or even the Romulan?

[Hyperion2206]

Wow. Hang on, let me use this sledge on my frontal lobes a few times so I can brain damage myself down to your level.

Ok then. Starfleet is the military arm of the Federation, and is answerable directly to the Federation council. The Federation is NOT militaristic in general, and the only reason Federation starships are so heavily armed by the Nemesis time frame is because outside agressors are continually attacking the Federation.



Did I get this right? You're not a real military if you have ships armed to the teeth but only use them to defend yourself?:confused::rolleyes:

If you ask me Star Fleet IS militaristic. They had military ranks from the start and their ships were always heavily armed. Granted peaceful exploration is the prime priority but they're not the peaceful scientists as some people seem to think.

[yardbird]

If you ask me Star Fleet IS militaristic. They had military ranks from the start and their ships were always heavily armed. Granted peaceful exploration is the prime priority but they're not the peaceful scientists as some people seem to think.

That's not true to lore.

The Klingons and Romulans are traditionally more like true militarists. The UFP is based upon science, exploration, and political openness.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Starfleet_General_Orders_and_Regulations

[mintor426]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_races



This table shows a list of races and their appearances on the five Star Trek series. This list is of appearances only. Brief mentions or references of races and species are not included.
Race ↓ ST:TOS ↓ ST:TNG ↓ ST:DS9 ↓ ST:VOY ↓ ST:ENT ↓
Aaamazzarite Yes No No No No
Acamarian No Yes No No No
Aenar No No No No Yes
Akaali No No No No Yes
Akritirian No No No Yes No
Aksani No No No Yes No
Alcyone No Yes No No No
Aldean No Yes No No No
Algolian No Yes No No No
Alkian No No No Yes* No
Allasomorph No Yes No No No
Alsuran No No No Yes* No
Andorian Yes Yes Yes* No Yes
Angosian No Yes No No No
Ankari No No No Yes No
Annari No No No Yes No
Antaran No Yes No No Yes
Antarian No No No Yes No
Antedean No Yes No No No
Antican No Yes Yes No No
Arbazan No No Yes No No
Arcadian Yes No No No No
Ardanan Yes No No No No
Arcturian Yes No No No No
Argala No No No Yes* No
Argelian Yes No No No No
Argosian No No Yes* No No
Argrathi No No Yes No No
Arkarian No Yes No No No
Arkonian No No No No Yes
Arrithean No No No Yes No
Axanar No No No No Yes
B'Saari No No No No Yes
B'omar No No No Yes No
Ba'ku No Yes No No No
Ba'neth No No No Yes No
Bajoran No Yes Yes Yes No
Bandi No Yes No No No
Banean No No No Yes No
Bara Plenum No No No Yes* No
Barkonian No Yes No No No
Barolian No Yes* No No No
Barzan No Yes No No No
Benkaran No No No Yes No
Benthan No No No Yes No
Benzenite No No Yes* No No
Benzite No Yes Yes No Yes
Berellian No Yes* No No No
Betazoid No Yes Yes Yes Yes
Betelgeusian Yes No No No No
Biomimetic lifeform No No No Yes No
Bolian No Yes Yes Yes No
Boraalan No Yes No No No
Boray No No No Yes* No
Borg No Yes Yes Yes Yes
Boslic No No Yes Yes Yes
Botha No No No Yes No
Breen No Yes* Yes Yes No
Brekkian No Yes No No No
Brenari No No No Yes No
Briori No No No Yes No
Brunali No No No Yes No
Bynar No Yes No No Yes*
Byzallian No No Yes No No
Byzatium No No Yes No No
Caatati No No Yes Yes No
Caitian Yes No No No No
Calamarain No Yes No No No
Caldonian No Yes No No No
Camorite No Yes* No No No
Capellan Yes No No No No
Cardassian No Yes Yes Yes Yes
Chalnoth No Yes No No No
Changeling No No Yes No No
Chokuzan No No No Yes No
Chrysalian No Yes* No No No
Coridan Yes No No No Yes
Corvallen No Yes Yes No No
Cravic No No No Yes* No
Crystalline Entity No Yes No No No
Cytherian No Yes No No No
Cytoplasmic lifeform No No No Yes No
D'Arsay No Yes* No No No
Dachlyd No Yes* No No No
Daliwakan No No No Yes No
Debrune No Yes* No No No
Deltan Yes No No No No
Denebian Yes* No No No No
Denobulan No No No No Yes
Devidian No Yes No No No
Devore No No No Yes No
Dinaali No No No Yes No
Doosodarian No Yes* No No No
Dopterian No Yes Yes No No
Dosi No No Yes No No
Douwd No Yes No No No
Dralian No No No Yes No
Drayan No No No Yes No
Dream species No No No Yes No
Dreman No Yes No No No
Druoda No No No Yes* No
Edo No Yes No No No
Ekosian Yes No No No No
El-Aurian No Yes Yes No No
Elasian Yes No No No No
Elaysian No No Yes No No
Ellora No Yes No No No
Enaran No No No Yes No
Enolian No No No No Yes
Entaban No No No Yes No
Entharan No No No Yes No
Eska No No No No Yes
Etanian No No No Yes No
Evora No Yes Yes No No
Exobot No Yes No No No
Farn No No No Yes No
Fek'Ihri No No Yes No No
Fen Domar No No No Yes* No
Ferengi No Yes Yes Yes Yes
Flaxian No No Yes No No
Fotiallian Yes No No No No
Frunalian No No Yes* No No
Galadoran No No Yes* No No
Gallamite No No Yes* No No
Garan No No No Yes No
Garenor No No No Yes* No
Genton No Yes* No No No
Gorn Yes Yes* No No Yes
Grazerite No No Yes No No
Gree No No No Yes* No
Grizzela No Yes* No No No
Haakonian No No No Yes No
Halanan No No Yes No No
Haliian No Yes No No No
Halkan Yes No No No No
Haradin No No No No Yes
Harkonian No No No Yes* No
Hazari No No No Yes No
Hekaran No Yes No No No
Hierarchy No No No Yes No
Hirogen No No No Yes No
Horta Yes No No No No
Human Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Hunter No No Yes No No
Hupyrian No No Yes No No
Hur'q No No Yes* No No
Husnock No Yes* No No No
Iconian No Yes* Yes* Yes* No
Ikaaran No No No No Yes
Ilari No No No Yes No
Ilidarian No No No Yes* No
Illyrian No No No No Yes
Imhotep No No No Yes No
Iotian Yes No No No No
Ithenite Yes No No No Yes*
Iyaaran No Yes No No No
J'naii No Yes No No No
Jarada No Yes No No No
Jem'Hadar No No Yes No No
K'normian Yes No No No No
Kadi No No No Yes No
Kaelon No Yes No No No
Kantare No No No No Yes
Karemma No No Yes No No
Kartelan No No No Yes* No
Kaylar Yes No No No No
Kazarite Yes No No No No
Kazon No No No Yes No
Kelvan Yes No Yes* No No
Kesat No No No Yes No
Kinbori No No No Yes No
Klaestron No No Yes No No
Klingon Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Kmada No No No Yes No
Kobali No No No Yes No
Kobliad No Yes Yes No No
Kohl No No No Yes No
Kolaati No No No Yes No
Kolhari No No No Yes* No
Komar No No No Yes No
Kostolain No Yes No No No
Kotakian No No Yes* No No
Kovaalan No No No No Yes
Kradin No No No Yes No
Kraylor No No No Yes No
Kreetassan No No No No Yes
Krenim No No No Yes No
Kressari No No Yes No No
Kriosian No Yes No No Yes
Ktarian No Yes No Yes No
Kyrian No No No Yes No
Ledosian No No No Yes No
Lethean No No Yes No No
Leyron No Yes* No Yes* No
Ligonian No Yes No No No
Lissepian No No Yes No No
Lokirrim No No No Yes No
Lorillian No No No No Yes
Lothra No No Yes* No No
Lurian No Yes Yes Yes No
Lycocians No No Yes No No
Lyridian No No No Yes* No
Lysian No Yes* No No No
Lyssarrian No No No No Yes
Lytasian No No Yes* No No
M-113 creature Yes No No No No
M'klexa No No No No Yes
Makull's species No No No Yes No
Maldorian No No No Yes* No
Malkoth No No No Yes* No
Malon No No No Yes No
Malurian Yes No No No Yes
Mari No No No Yes No
Mawasi No No No Yes No
Mazarite No No No No Yes
Medusan Yes No No No No
Megarite Yes No No No No
Mekhar No No No Yes No
Melkot Yes No No No No
Menk No No No No Yes
Menthar No Yes* No No No
Metrons Yes No No Yes No
Microbrain No Yes No No No
Mikhal Traveler No No No Yes No
Mikulak No Yes* No No No
Minosian No Yes No No No
Mintakan No Yes No No No
Miradorn No No Yes No No
Mislenite No No No Yes No
Mizarian No Yes No No No
Mokra No No No Yes No
Monean No No No Yes No
Morphinian No No No Yes* No
Motali No No No Yes* No
Mulzirak No No Yes* No No
Mylean No No No Yes No
N'Kree No No No Yes No
Nacene No No No Yes No
Napean No Yes No No No
Nasari No No No Yes No
Nassordin No No No Yes* No
Nausicaan No Yes Yes Yes Yes
Nechani No No No Yes No
Neo-Borg No No No Yes No
Nezu No No No Yes No
Night Aliens No No No Yes No
Nihydron No No No Yes No
Norcadian No No No Yes No
Numiri No No No Yes No
Nuu'bari No No No Yes No
Nuvian No No No No Yes
Nygean No No No Yes No
Nyrian No No No Yes No
Ocampa No No No Yes No
Octran No No No No Yes*
Old Ones Yes No No No No
Organian Yes No No No Yes
Orion Yes No Yes* No Yes
Ornaran No Yes No No No
Osaarian No No No No Yes
Ovion No No No Yes* No
Pakled No Yes Yes No No
Pah Wraith No No Yes No No
Paraagan No No No No Yes
Parada No No Yes No No
Parein No No No Yes No
Paxans No Yes No No No
Peliar Zel natives No Yes Yes Yes Yes
Peljenite No No Yes No No
Pendari No No No Yes No
Petarian No No Yes* No No
Ponea No No No Yes* No
Pralor No No No Yes* No
Prang No No No Yes No
Promellian No Yes No No No
Prophet No No Yes No No
Proxcinian No No Yes No No
Pygorian No No Yes No No
Q No Yes Yes Yes No
Qomar No No No Yes No
Quarren No No No Yes No
Rakhari No No Yes No No
Rakosan No No No Yes No
Ram Izad No No No Yes* No
Ramuran No No No Yes No
Reegrunion No No Yes No No
Reman No Yes No No Yes
Retellian No No No No Yes
Rhaandarite Yes No No No No
Rigelian No No No No Yes
Rilnar No No No Yes* No
Risian No Yes Yes No Yes
Romulan Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Rutian No Yes No No No
Sakari No No No Yes No
Saltah'na No No Yes* No No
Satarran No Yes No No No
Saurian Yes No No No No
Scathosian No No No No Yes*
Selay No Yes No No No
Serosian No No No Yes No
Sheliak No Yes No No No
Shivolian No No No Yes No
Sikarian No No No Yes No
Silver Blood No No No Yes No
Skagaran No No No No Yes
Skrreea No No Yes No No
Sky Spirits No No No Yes No
Son'a No Yes Yes No No
Species 8472 No No No Yes No

[mintor426]

Srivani No No No Yes No
Stakoron No No Yes* No No
Suliban No No No No Yes
Swarm No No No Yes No
T-Rogoran No No Yes* No No
T'Lani No No Yes No No
Tak Tak No No No Yes No
Takarian No No No Yes No
Takrit No No No Yes No
Talarian No Yes Yes* No No
Talavian No No Yes* No No
Talaxian No No No Yes No
Talosian Yes No No No No
Tamarian No Yes No No No
Tandaran No No No No Yes
Tanugan No Yes No No No
Tarahongian No No Yes* No No
Tarellian No Yes No No No
Taresian No No No Yes No
Tarkalean No No Yes No Yes
Tarkan No No No Yes No
Tarlac No Yes No No No
Tavnian No No Yes No No
Tellarite Yes No No No Yes
Telsian No No No Yes No
Teplan No No Yes No No
Terellian No Yes* Yes* No No
Terkellian No No No Yes* No
Terrelian No No Yes* Yes* No
Terrellian No Yes* Yes* Yes Yes*
Tessic's species No No No No Yes
Thasian Yes No No No No
Tholian Yes Yes No No Yes
Tiburonian Yes No Yes No Yes*
Torothan No No No No Yes
Tosk No No Yes No No
Trabe No No No Yes No
Triannon No No No No Yes
Tribble Yes No Yes No Yes
Trill No Yes Yes Yes No
Troyian Yes No No No No
Turei No No No Yes No
Tygarian No Yes Yes No No
Tzenkethi No No Yes* No No
U'tani No No No No Yes
Ubean No No No Yes* No
Ullian No Yes No No No
Uxali No No No Yes No
V'radian No No No No Yes
Vaadwaur No No No Yes No
Valakian No No No No Yes
Valerian No No Yes No No
Valtese No Yes No No No
Varro No No No Yes No
Vaskan No No No Yes No
Ventaxian No Yes No No No
Ventu No No No Yes No
Verathan No No Yes* No No
Verillian No No Yes* No No
Vhnori No No No Yes No
Vidiian No No No Yes No
Vissian No No No No Yes
Vojean No No No Yes* No
Vok'sha No No No Yes* No
Vori No No No Yes No
Vorta No No Yes No No
Vostigye No No No Yes* No
Voth No No No Yes No
Vulcan Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes
Wadi No No Yes No No
Wogneer creature No Yes No No No
Wyngari No No No Yes* No
Wysanti No No No Yes No
Xarantine No No No No Yes*
Xepolite No No Yes No Yes
Xindi No No No No Yes
Xyrillian No No No No Yes
Yaderan No No Yes No No
Yallitian No No No Yes* No
Yalosian No No Yes* No No
Yash-El No Yes* No No No
Yattho No No No Yes* No
Yridian No Yes Yes Yes Yes
Zahl No No No Yes No
Zakdorn No Yes No No No
Zaldan No Yes No No No
Zalkonian No Yes No No No
Zaranite Yes No No No No
Zetaran Life Form Yes No No No No
Zeon Yes No No No No
Zhuik No Yes* No No No
Zora Fel No No Yes* No

[J.L.Picard]

That's not true to lore.

The Klingons and Romulans are traditionally more like true militarists. The UFP is based upon science, exploration, and political openness.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Starfleet_General_Orders_and_Regulations

STARFLEET IS NOT THE FEDERATION. Starfleet is military. they have military ranks and every ship is armed in some way (the exceptions being transports) Its pointless discussing what the UFP does and what they are about when you are talking about Starfleet. The Federation provides the defences for the Federation BUT they will also get involved in conflicts that they believe they should get involved in e.g. the Klingon/Cardassian war.

[J.L.Picard]

Mintor great list.

[yardbird]

STARFLEET IS NOT THE FEDERATION. Starfleet is military. they have military ranks and every ship is armed in some way (the exceptions being transports) Its pointless discussing what the UFP does and what they are about when you are talking about Starfleet. The Federation provides the defences for the Federation BUT they will also get involved in conflicts that they believe they should get involved in e.g. the Klingon/Cardassian war.

Of course. But Starfleet is a function of the UFP, and is guided by its principles.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Starfleet

[ngille]

I'm sorry i dont think you quiet understand the consequences of this.

Were are all these new races going to come from?? what planet's or systems??

This game will have people creating random 1 off races that would never exist in ST.

its called STAR TREK online STAR TREK being the keywords here. its not called space online. the federation has 150+ planets and some planets have more then one sentient life form who have achieved warp speed. Xindi being a prime example. basically this means taht withing th Federation alone there are around 200 alien races probably more and now you want to be adding your own made up race that has NOWHERE to call home has never been or will ever be referenced in anything Star Trek. I'm all up for variations being able to create someone of mixed race e.g. Vulcan/Human or Human/Klingon is great because alot of these characters are favourites the main example being Spock or even Torres(i thought she was cool) but when you start seeing neon coloured aliens with 3 antennae and 4 arms its going above and beyond the call of what is necessary.

My problem is not with the edition of races, I'm up for that AS LONG as its relative to Star Trek. Instead of giving people the option of creating pointless races give them 150+ races to choose from at the start. I personaly want to see more then one member of my species.

Walking shard give me a sec to knock the crap you just said out of my head. at any point in my post did you see me call the federation militaristic NO the reason for there new vessels being heavily armed not applicable Federation vessels have always carried weapons. Next I do know how big the galaxy is BUT how many aliens have you seen actively serving in the Klingon Empire?? or even the Romulan?

Where are they coming from? Who cares if you MUST have an excuse for it...as said in hailing frequency's interview....discover a planet and name it appropriately to the race you created....create your own backstory...there you go

As far as people creating random races....I think that's the point, sounds awesome to me

Yes, you are correct it is going above and beyond what is necessary, awesome isn't it?

As far as it being relative to Star Trek...well with infiinite space you have infinite possibilities which means just about anything you could create with a race could conceivably be canon

You want to see more than one member of YOUR species, awesom, use one of the pre-made races and there you go. why limit what others can do based on what YOU want? Maybe some of us want a truly unique character to play...something no mmo has ever come close to offering

[LordDave]

Mintor great list.

WTF? Your praising her for a huge list that you yourself claim shouldn't exist? First of all, the Federation isn't made up a 100 planets or 150. Try closer to 1,000 or more. To quote Douglas Adams:

"Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space."

And it's in the future several generations so I'm guessing more species have been added. Heck, we saw one that was just admitted to the Federation during Star Trek Insurrection.

[walkingshark]

I can see it now...

Genital-Face species everywhere.

He's a ballchinian!

[walkingshark]

Did I get this right? You're not a real military if you have ships armed to the teeth but only use them to defend yourself?:confused::rolleyes:

If you ask me Star Fleet IS militaristic. They had military ranks from the start and their ships were always heavily armed. Granted peaceful exploration is the prime priority but they're not the peaceful scientists as some people seem to think.

Sorry, I obviously didn't go far enough with the brain damage. Perhaps if I drink this bottle of scotch with a beer bong...

Ok then. Star Fleet is the military arm of the Federation. Thanks for playing.

[casper]

I'm ok with Crpytic making up new species, but not player made ones.

I just think thousands of randomized races will ruin the immersion of being in the Star Trek Universe.