Win a Lifetime Subscription to Star Trek Online! (Aug 5, 2008)

[jsutich]

To celebrate the launch of our new community for Star Trek® Online, Cryptic Studios will give five (5!!) lucky winners lifetime subscriptions to STO!

To enter, all you have to do is register as a member of the Star Trek Online community by 11:59 p.m. PDT on August 17, 2008, and click the sweepstakes link. The winners will be chosen at random on or about August 25, 2008, and will be notified by e-mail and/or overnight mail on or about August 28.

Five Winners Will Receive:

* Retail copy of Star Trek Online
* Lifetime subscription to Star Trek Online

Total estimated retail value: $550.00 (US)

Enter the sweepstakes! (http://www.startrekonline.com/sweepstakes)

[ngille]

You mean this site? I'm already registered so how do I register for the sweepstakes?

[eaglesix]

Link does not work :(

[minago]

Link does not work :(

prob was getting lotta traffic worked for me :)

[Duras]

BUT only if you live in the North Americas... How sweet.

The rest of the world can take a run and jump can't they, not really fair is'nt it.

Anyone else who thinks Cryptic Studios is geologically predudice...!!

[minago]

You mean this site? I'm already registered so how do I register for the sweepstakes?

To enter, all you have to do is register as a member of the Star Trek Online community by 11:59 p.m. PDT on August 17, 2008, and click the sweepstakes link

[eNDIE]

hmm canadian and usa? i guess the eu players get shafted

[curtst]

Worked for me. Don't know why I bother, I never win these things lol. It would make my wife happy if I did. She doesn't want me to get it because of the month fee lol.

[eaglesix]

Please confirm if this lottery is world wide or just America / USA ...

Regards

[boothby]

woha incredible! Cryptic great idea! Respect.

[ngille]

Since it gives the option of asking if there is one other than US/ Can I would guess this one is only for US Can. I could be wrong and usually am.

Sorry saw were it says to register and somehow or other didn't see the sweepstakes link (I can be a real bonehad at times)

[curtst]

Please confirm if this lottery is world wide or just America / USA ...

Regards

Just USA and Canda eaglesix. Its on the contest page.

[danubus]

there are legalities when making contests. Sometimes contests have to be within a certain countrie(s) because of rules or laws in countries like yours. Its just the nature of the beast sometimes.

[Duras]

Though they may have a promotional competition this side of the pond... in the uk.

Anyone tell me why its offered in a limited fashion when STO is global.

[jsutich]

At this time, the sweepstakes are only being held in the US and Canada. However, please note that there is another option that allows you to select your current country of residence for any future plans for sweepstakes like this in those regions.

[Blackfire2]

I never win these things either but what the hell, STO for life? that would rock. :D

[Duras]

Thanx Danubus

Hmm.. a retail copy and subcription.... so sounds like we pay twice. I wondered about that...

It'll be worth you guys trying to win it.

[boothby]

At this time, the sweepstakes are only being held in the US and Canada. However, please note that there is another option that allows you to select your current country of residence for any future plans for sweepstakes like this in those regions.

i hope so in Germany:)

[Duras]

Yes, thankyou Razor, I take take the oppertunity to click that option on the compitition page....

Very jealous though...

GOOD LUCK GUYS

[eNDIE]

Thanx Danubus

Hmm.. a retail copy and subcription.... so sounds like we pay twice. I wondered about that...

It'll be worth you guys trying to win it.

na its standard you buy the game and get a free month and then you pay for sub.

[Reinkaos]

If only it were worldwide *Sigh* or they had another sweepstakes for Europe *sigh *sigh*

[danubus]

Awesome to see this contest! Good luck to everyone who can enter it.

[Squirrel]

hmm canadian and usa? i guess the eu players get shafted

Yep it is a real shame. Hopefully they will do something similar for us Euros... preferably England seperately ;) increases my chances, but yeah, good luck to everyone that enters and i hope the people that get it, use it, and deserve it ;)

Peace - Squirrel

[eNDIE]

there are legalities when making contests. Sometimes contests have to be within a certain countrie(s) because of rules or laws in countries like yours. Its just the nature of the beast sometimes.

som EU counteries has laws like that and some dont so thats not the reason.

[Recollection]

hmm canadian and usa? i guess the eu players get shafted

I find it very discriminating from Cryptics to have an offer like this for the US and Canada ONLY.
It isn't only in the US and in Canada that players have already waited for years for Star Trek Online to come out, not to mention that a huge amount of us are hardcore star trek fans.:mad:

Unless there wil be the same lottery for the european players then its a first dissapointment in my eyes towards Cryptics:mad:

[Trekkie]

I think that this is a great idea for a contest, because it helps to hype the game while having an undoubtedly valuable prize. Thanks for starting the sweepstakes, Cryptic!

[Duras]

What ever the cost, I'll be on it... STO I think suspect this.

I also suspect that it'll be necessary to be this way if we expect the standards of gameplay we all post about.

I've never been dissapointed in any of the Star Trek material though and STO could set a new MMO standard.

[Zyyb]

Here Here, same for Europe please! Or just the UK!

[TheDart]

CANNOT ENTER FAST ENOUGH.

Thanks, guys. :D

[Thing]

Damn another contest that us here in Quebec can't participate because our nice poeple here had the bright idea of putting permit fees to make sweepstakes legal here. And gues what, none of them want to pay that fee.

So i guess we'll have to congratulate whover wins again...SIGH!!!!

[Duras]

Global unity, quick... that way we can all jump on the Subscription bandwagon...

[boz75]

Oh come on, not exactly a good way to start off with your fanbase around the world outside US/Canada, is it!
Very disappointed in this to be honest. I don't know the reason why, but of course Cryptic will have known that it will annoy fans elsewhere, so there must have been some specific reason as to why they have not opened this up globally.

Good luck to you all though who can enter - it's definitely worth going for!

[Ruthlessgravity]

sweet sweepstakes. Cant wait for the winners to be announced.

[Lord_Xomic]

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[lootra]

hmm, i think brits will get sweepstakes at somepoint, as i noticed that alot of the members are in the UK

[Raven0238]

I hope my registration went through.

[Falin]

how do ou do this when you're already registered?

edit: nm figured it out, but not sure if i sceeded, cause i tried relogging on main page and it allowed me to try again.

[Raven0238]

Doing some quick math the Estimated Value of $550 would equal to about 36 months?? Is that all STO would last for?

[LordDave]

Good question.
That does seem low, unless they aren't going to charge $15 per month and more like $5.

[Falin]

Doing some quick math the Estimated Value of $550 would equal to about 36 months?? Is that all STO would last for?

actually, usually the longer one buys time for, the proice usually goes down per month. so taking into acount the game will be $60, that leaves $490 for subs, if they follow the general % reduction, we can guess $8 a month means 61.25 months of play, or 5.1 years.


but still n ot sure if my reg went through as i can still do it.

[Alexraptor]

This is just so ****** unfair.
IMO either make the sweepstakes available for everyone, or none at all.

Because quite frankly im getting rather sick and tired of being excluded because i am not a resident of that land lump on the other side of the pond.(the Irony of it is that i am a Canadian citizen living in sweden.)

[Artanisx]

Great idea, too bad that it's not for europeans folks (like me, I come from Italy)!

Anyway, I wish you good luck :)

[LordDave]

To all non-US and Canadian people:

While I am no legal expert, all companies exclude non-US and Canada countries. Probably due to laws or taxes, or something that they have no control over.

Also:
Doesn't anyone think this is a bit early?

[USS_Parallax]

I hope I win... lol...

[Alexraptor]

To all non-US and Canadian people:

While I am no legal expert, all companies exclude non-US and Canada countries. Probably due to laws or taxes, or something that they have no control over.

Also:
Doesn't anyone think this is a bit early?

Like i said, if you cannot ensure that everyone gets a fair chance, don't have them at all.

[mintor426]

sweet i,m in the sweepstakes.

[mintor426]

Oh come on, not exactly a good way to start off with your fanbase around the world outside US/Canada, is it!
Very disappointed in this to be honest. I don't know the reason why, but of course Cryptic will have known that it will annoy fans elsewhere, so there must have been some specific reason as to why they have not opened this up globally.

Good luck to you all though who can enter - it's definitely worth going for!



dom,t blame cryptic . blame eu laws and treaty,s

[Greyhame]

Good luck to all that entered.

[eNDIE]

dom,t blame cryptic . blame eu laws and treaty,s

cant be because every country in EU got their own national laws and some countries is not able to enter these contests but most of them are, so if Blizzard can sort them out Cryptic can.

[Falin]

do we get an email on this confirming or anything? cause i have no idea if i've been able to actually enter the contest, as i can keep going back doing it again and again. really should say "you've already entered thsi contest" or at least get an emailsaying i did.

[indelible]

Star Trek - a multi-national household name. A franchise that has an INTERNATIONAL FANBASE and you open up your copetition to the US and Canda only?

Thanks for that ;-) Way to make the Europeans feel loved :-)

[miqrogroove]

I think everyone missed the news between the lines here.

Cryptic will be charging subscription fees for STO!

Thank goodness!

I think we were all worried before that PE would consider making the game free and charge for pink hair.

[lrdnova]

May I just point out that you guys should really read the fine print in all this

Cryptic just gave us a possible release date for this game.

And from what I am looking at its a August 2009 release!


4. PRIZES: Grand Prize (5): Five (5) Grand Prize Winners will be selected to receive: one (1) Star Trek Online retail box copy and one (1) Star Trek Online “Lifetime Subscription”. Estimated retail value of the Grand Prize is $550 per Grand Prize; $2750 total. The retail box prize will be awarded when commercially available, which is estimated to be at least one year after the close of the contest. The Lifetime Subscription shall commence with the launch of normal retail service, shall continue for as long as the service remains under control of Sponsor, and shall be subject to all Terms of Use and other User registration requirements. A Grand Prize Winner will not be compensated in any other way should any element of the prize be deemed not feasible. All other prizes will be awarded. If a prize cannot be awarded due to circumstances beyond the control of Sponsor, a substitute prize of equal or greater retail value may be awarded, provided, however, that if prizes are awarded but unclaimed/forfeited by recipient, prize may not be re-awarded, in Sponsor's sole discretion. Prize winners cannot assign or transfer the prize to another person. No cash or prize substitution is allowed except at the discretion of Sponsor. Winners will be responsible for all taxes, including income taxes, or fees due on the prizes awarded. Other restrictions may apply.

[Falin]

May I just point out that you guys should really read the fine print in all this

Cryptic just gave us a possible release date for this game.

And from what I am looking at its a August 2009 release!

The retail box prize will be awarded when commercially available, which is estimated to be at least one year after the close of the contest.

well says at LEAST 1 year, so i'm still sure 2010 is right.

[Triatom]

What's a little depressing is that if they DO do a lifetime subscription for buyers that want to buy one...it's looking like they're implying that it'll be $500, which is way too much for me at least, :( (Assuming $50 for the game)

[LordDave]

What bothers me about this is that they're putting this out prior to showing any footage.

What if , for example me, I saw the footage and said "Nope, never gonna play it" but I win anyway (I entered now). That's one subscription that's wasted.

[Djin]

Nonetheless, in one year I hope they get it right.

I've entered! We'll see what happens.

[Djin]

What bothers me about this is that they're putting this out prior to showing any footage.

What if , for example me, I saw the footage and said "Nope, never gonna play it" but I win anyway (I entered now). That's one subscription that's wasted.

Psst... it's called propaganda and hype... *GASP!!!*

Jeepers Batman! Looks like everyone is doing that! :)

[CarlR]

TOTAL estimated Value... thats 5 Lifetime Subscriptions! totaling $550! not just 1 Sub.

as i expected with a few other MMO's it's about $80-$100 for a lifetime sub. i would suspect though that the game will cost about $29.99-$39.99 MMO's rarely sell above 39.99 unlike standard games which go $49.99-$69.99.

[Pheroc]

Entered. Although the chances of me winning is HIGHLY unlikely, I'd like to hope that I have a chance. :P Oh well. I've never won anything in my life, so maybe Lady Luck will shine upon me this time.

[Djin]

What ticks me off the most would be someone who just signed up the day before the contest ends, wins the contest and doesn't even live in US/America, lied on his application and then cries he didn't get the game.

[Murrh75]

Good Luck everyone who entered :)

*crawls back into her little Australian hole in the ground*

We never get to enter the good competitions lol

*fingers crossed we get one here too*

-M-


( $500 USD for a lifetime account?! eeeep Lotro was only $199.... :( )

[LordDave]

TOTAL estimated Value... thats 5 Lifetime Subscriptions! totaling $550! not just 1 Sub.

as i expected with a few other MMO's it's about $80-$100 for a lifetime sub. i would suspect though that the game will cost about $29.99-$39.99 MMO's rarely sell above 39.99 unlike standard games which go $49.99-$69.99.

No, that's per prize.

[owens80]

May I just point out that you guys should really read the fine print in all this

Cryptic just gave us a possible release date for this game.

And from what I am looking at its a August 2009 release!


4. PRIZES: Grand Prize (5): Five (5) Grand Prize Winners will be selected to receive: one (1) Star Trek Online retail box copy and one (1) Star Trek Online “Lifetime Subscription”. Estimated retail value of the Grand Prize is $550 per Grand Prize; $2750 total. The retail box prize will be awarded when commercially available, which is estimated to be at least one year after the close of the contest. The Lifetime Subscription shall commence with the launch of normal retail service, shall continue for as long as the service remains under control of Sponsor, and shall be subject to all Terms of Use and other User registration requirements. A Grand Prize Winner will not be compensated in any other way should any element of the prize be deemed not feasible. All other prizes will be awarded. If a prize cannot be awarded due to circumstances beyond the control of Sponsor, a substitute prize of equal or greater retail value may be awarded, provided, however, that if prizes are awarded but unclaimed/forfeited by recipient, prize may not be re-awarded, in Sponsor's sole discretion. Prize winners cannot assign or transfer the prize to another person. No cash or prize substitution is allowed except at the discretion of Sponsor. Winners will be responsible for all taxes, including income taxes, or fees due on the prizes awarded. Other restrictions may apply.



This is exactly what I was thinking. This is great news because this means the game will most likely come much earlier than most of us thought. I understand that many people overseas are unhappy they cannot enter but look at the good news of a release date that suddenly doesn't seem so far away!

[fatesoasis]

Sweet. I like that they are actively engaging the community.

[gkeffer]

Someone at Cryptic is brainstorming, this is one way to sweeten the pot.
Now it's really going to bring the closet Trek junkies outta the closet......but somehow I think that was the intention.
I told 5 people today, that it's coming.
I would bet those 5 Trek freaks have already entered the contest and are sitting home in a dark room right now, either on this website or setting up screen shots on their PC's desktop eating cheetos and playing old Star Trek games, and waiting for the day that this Epic is released.
There out there, and Cryptic can flush them out with free stuff for sure.
I still have a pair of characters in SWG, going on 5 years. So there's no hope for me, I have been a Trek fan long before I signed up for SWG, and the only reason I did was because there wasn't a Star Trek Online.
Star wars has never held my attention like Star Trek, and it has been 5 years, so the way I figure STO will have to kick me offline because I got too old to see the keyboard or read the screen...........or pay my bill.
:D

[Falin]

TOTAL estimated Value... thats 5 Lifetime Subscriptions! totaling $550! not just 1 Sub.

as i expected with a few other MMO's it's about $80-$100 for a lifetime sub. i would suspect though that the game will cost about $29.99-$39.99 MMO's rarely sell above 39.99 unlike standard games which go $49.99-$69.99.


Have you bought any MMO's in the last 10 years? they run $50-65, just like regular games.

[gkeffer]

Actually I was going to cheer you up by but it appears that 542.57 Australian Dollars is the equivalent of $500 USD
So that's sounds like more, sorry.
But at least you won't be chasing a bunch of hobbits and fairy's in STO..................I hope ;)

[gkeffer]

Yep it is a real shame. Hopefully they will do something similar for us Euros... preferably England seperately ;) increases my chances, but yeah, good luck to everyone that enters and i hope the people that get it, use it, and deserve it ;)

Peace - Squirrel

I got three cousins in Huntingdon Cambridge UK, and you would not expect them to be a freak for Trek
and pints of course! They regulary get ****ed and see who get's beamed up 1st...lol
So you may be surprised at the masses of UK Trek followers lurking in your current proximity.
But I hope you fellow's get to the contest as well, good luck!

[Arokh72]

A previous thread for this was removed from a different section so I thought I'd pop this one up in here which is I think is probably a more appropriate area.

Many of us non US/Canadian citizens are annoyed that comps such the Sweepstakes are for the US/Canada only. MMO's are generally a worldwide game in that peoples from all over this little blue rock play it. So why are the comps for US/Canada only? If it's a licensing issue, that I can understand (I know here in Australia competitions need a license and meet certain guidelines). But please instead of removing the thread and "hiding" from it or ducking the issue (as removing the thread makes it appear), I myself would like just to see an explanation and then perhaps lock the thread so everyone can see the why of it.

[Adonisaleus]

it is most likely the laws. For example in Canada, many contests aren't open to quebec citizens due to some laws in effect in that province. however, they get their own - they only have to wait

[Admiral.of.Starfleet]

Nice that means everyone chances are about 5000 to 5 or 1000 to 1. Im guessing that 3000 or more cant compete.

[Hawkins]

sweeeeeeeeeet I can't wat to see who wins :)

[Jallarzie]

I really hate Quebec's laws sometimes... Oh well. Good luck to everyone who can enter!

[LordDave]

it is most likely the laws. For example in Canada, many contests aren't open to quebec citizens due to some laws in effect in that province. however, they get their own - they only have to wait

This is correct. Specifically the gambling laws. In the US it is gambling if you pay money to enter a game of chance for a substantial prize. Companies get around this with the "no purchase neccesary" line. In other countries the definition is any game of chance in which a sizeable valued prize is awarded. This differs from US laws because it does not require payment by the gambler to be considered gambling.
I am no legal expert but this seems like the proper reason.

[Captain_Intrepid]

It is interesting that this is for the retail version, and not a Collector's Edition (if there's such a version that'd be available; not saying there'd be much difference between the two except for the possibility that something extra in the box or possible ingame item might be available).

I wonder if a person was to win the lifetime subscription would be able to buy the collector's edition for it would be able to apply the game code from the CE version to the retail version awarded through this sweepstakes?

[Jenkl]

This. Is. Amazing.

[Hotwire]

Non-north america resident and very jealous :mad:

[xremote]

Yes i would do anything to win this!!!!!!! I am poor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! :(

[Warp_Speed]

Rock on, what a great way to give back to those who give to you. I love it. Cryptic is the bomb!

[Artanisx]

Doesn't anyone think this is a bit early?


Well, we actually don't know how far in development the game is... So... it may be just right :D

[mrgoo]

I am totally in for that AWESOME. Heck I might even pay for such a plan if its gets offered. (Depending on full Price)

[k.mpok]

I sure hope they offer us the option of buying a a lifetime sub. Was one of many things I liked about LoTRo and probly why I will be playing it for a very long time to come.

[Malsonic]

Thank You Cryptic! Too bad only 5 peeps can win :( I can think of dozens of people off the top of my head who would give almost anything for a Lifetime Subscription to STO. Myself included :D

[Dext]

This is so cool of you all to do.

[RedShirt]

Bah, looked great, but then I realised its the same crappy deal with every MMO competition, for US citizens only. Pathetic.

Equality for All or none!

[Uruagh]

this is not fare. we all fun of star trek. but just they ,who are from the us and canada, are special.... cooll...

[Hugh]

I'm sure there are legal reason behind the decision to exclude the rest of the world but the damage done to public relations around the world far outweigh any positive benefit that you may gain from a promotion that is only open to a select customer base.
If you are going to offer anything it would be in everyone's interest to ensure its open to all.

[FaeryFire]

Well, Cryptic could also have offer nothing, run no contest.
While they can't run an international contest, at least, they are running one for USA and Canada.

Plus, it's only 5 wins. I don't believe it would have put to Cryptic into peril to offer 5 or 10 more and include all the world if they had been able to...

And, who knows, they might run other contests later... at that time, I'm sure there would be people from USA and Canada who will be ****ed they can't participate. So...

Better to have a contest for people who can participate than none because not everyone can participate.

[Marcellus]

Only US & Canada? Khaaaaaaaaaannnn!

[ichthys101]

Whilst we're all talking about places where we would like the competition to be how about New Zealand?

Trek fans live here too... I haven't met any personally but there are.....

[ichthys101]

oops - accidently posted twice

[Macdory]

Would be a cool prize to have - you have to be in it to win it :)

Cheers

[THX1138]

Throw a bone to us Europeans Cryptic :)

[miqrogroove]

This is great news because this means the game will most likely come much earlier than most of us thought.

Speak for yourself! The official STO page at startrek.com still says "The game is expected to enter public beta testing in 2006 and to launch by early 2007."

[Hammond]

:(

some day perhaps.

[Ghoulor]

Only for U.S. and Canada... :(

[John]

Worked for me. Don't know why I bother, I never win these things lol. It would make my wife happy if I did. She doesn't want me to get it because of the month fee lol.

i know i never win either but thought why not try anyway maybe one of us will win :)

[IanD967]

awww wished i lived in the US or Canada now :(

[Commander_Daedelus]

i was really exicited by this until i realised im australian :(

[.Spartan]

Why would a global MMO title be limited to NA for a simple giveaway contest? It is not like this is a sweepstakes or something. That just smacks of silly BS legal crap. :mad:

If someone can purchase the title and can use their credit card for a sub then they should qualify. Hell I'm a US citizen living abroad so does that mean I dont qualify? I do legally reside is a couple countries.

Anyway, does this mean that lifetime subs will be available for purchase then?

[Bladerunner1701]

Im just glad to see there will be a lifetime subscription plan.

[Djin]

Why would a global MMO title be limited to NA for a simple giveaway contest? It is not like this is a sweepstakes or something. That just smacks of silly BS legal crap. :mad:

If someone can purchase the title and can use their credit card for a sub then they should qualify. Hell I'm a US citizen living abroad so does that mean I dont qualify? I do legally reside is a couple countries.

Anyway, does this mean that lifetime subs will be available for purchase then?

On a lot of sites (MMORPG.com) and others, it's only open to US/Canada/Europe.

Sucks, but oh well... glad I live in the USofA. :)

[finny]

As usual until you read the small print..... you realise its not that good an offer!!!:(
(Not very Star Trek like)

But who knows maybe there'll be a comp for other parts of the world. :p

[Greyhawke]

So, does this foretell the inclusion of a lifetime subscription option to STO? :)

[nocci]

i hope so in Germany:)

This would be something really fantastic...

[Netskater]

Great idea!:)

[Intrepid]

Current Estimate Date of Release is August 2009.

How do I know this? If you guys actually read the Official Sweepstakes Rules, It says
Under


4. Prizes

"The retail box prize will be awarded when commercially available, which is estimated to be at least one year after the close of the contest. "

Under 4) Prizes

YAY Its coming MUCH sooner that I would expect. However that is only an estimate. But its from a reliable source =D

[Nelson]

boy I really dont know who would be happier if I won, me or my wife, who thinks these games are a waist of time lol... It would be something to win though would it not.. Good Luck to us all.

[clearymonkey]

Alright Cryptic!! WAY TO GO!! That is an outstanding sweepstakes!! Thank you so much for putting that together, and allowing Canadians to participate!! w00t!!
Thanks RAZOR!!!

[Richman12]

Though I have never won any competition in my life I will give it a go anyways.

I think the reasons behind the sweepstakes would have to do something with poltics among a great many other global economic things. I do think however that thier will be cheaters that have multiple accounts so they can always win I know this for a fact cause I have seen it happen before.

I do know however that thier will be private servers out thier for STO and as we all know they are free so don't fret if you don't win just get in on 1 of them.

[Djin]

Though I have never won any competition in my life I will give it a go anyways.

I think the reasons behind the sweepstakes would have to do something with poltics among a great many other global economic things. I do think however that thier will be cheaters that have multiple accounts so they can always win I know this for a fact cause I have seen it happen before.

I do know however that thier will be private servers out thier for STO and as we all know they are free so don't fret if you don't win just get in on 1 of them.

And you know this information how?

If you're talking about servers ran by players, this is illegal. And I would suggest not speaking of this again here on the offical forums.

[AlexTaldren]

Problem:

I didn't realize the radio buttons were setup to be "one or the other," so I checked the first one and thought that I could ALSO have Cryptic notify me of more promotions. So, I clicked the second option and selected United States of America...

I tried to fix it, but it said I was already registered. Any way of fixing this or am I basically out of luck?

[SuperSean]

Thanks Cryptic for a chance to win. Here's hoping. ;)


/sets phaser to "anticipation"

[DragonLight]

Woot!, Awesome, I could use it along with my LOTRO lifetime sub :D

[imaximus]

fingers crossed fingers crossed!!!!

[TMPletz]

It would be nice to win, but if I don't then I'll more than likely check it out in beta and then quit when the beta period is over. For now, my heart belongs to LOTRO. :)

[piker]

Very Nice, I cant say it enough!

[Richman12]

And you know this information how?

If you're talking about servers ran by players, this is illegal. And I would suggest not speaking of this again here on the offical forums.

I know this information form wacthing WoW private servers on youtube.

[lennie_crout]

I want to thank you personally for giving me a chance (I know small but who cares) to play a game I would play anyways for free. I know I will be buying this game day one and putting down a lot o cash to make a custom computer to run it on.

[njdss4]

Great work having a contest like this, Cryptic! Jeez, if I were to win it would be the greatest thing I'd ever won in my whole life. Is that sad? *shrug* I don't care!

[STOZone]

Awesome contest idea! If I win, will Jack sign the box for me?

[wailee]

To enter, all you have to do is register as a member of the Star Trek Online community by 11:59 p.m. PDT on August 17, 2008, and click the sweepstakes link
You missed out on thing... YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to be legible for the competition!

What a rip! This is so Bias, atleast make the competition international! Unless ofcourse the target market for this games are only North Americans.

What a shame they will be missing out on Millions of dollars that could be made on the international market, tell me this is the second developer to take on startrek online? hmm, i wonder why.... they dont have a clue

[Myopic_Aardvark]

Strongly implies split US/EU servers and no EU folks in the beta too :(

Please don't ruin and console-ificate this game Cryptic, please. Guess it's inevitable, since every piece of news on Champions seems to indicate that it's an MMO-lite. I'd hate for this game to go down the same path.

[fire314]

This would be so sweet to win.

[Daggaroth]

thank you cryptic =)

[Myopic_Aardvark]

I am totally in for that AWESOME. Heck I might even pay for such a plan if its gets offered. (Depending on full Price)

I'd reckon around $550 dollars, based on what they've quoted with it. (I've paid for than that for 4 years of COH though).

[Myopic_Aardvark]

No solid input to the community, just greed and the ability to get something for free...

Whereas posting lots of time instantly gives you some form of rank over someone else (Oh and the ability to get something for free too?)

[Wowz532]

I'm guessing that they're going to realease the game soon. I highly doubt that they would have a raffle for something used in game when the game wont be up for a year or two

[Djin]

I'm guessing that they're going to realease the game soon. I highly doubt that they would have a raffle for something used in game when the game wont be up for a year or two

Nice name!

It won't be released for probably another year. If you read the actual contest, they make a hint that it's going to be released one year from the date of the contest drawing.

[UndyingOath]

Wow...someone is full of themselves in this thread.

[Wowz532]

that stinks why dont they just take the game plans froma ll the develepores intrigate them together; then add on to it.

[UndyingOath]

Because of copyright issues I would assume. And why purchases the ideas from a company that went under? Just about starting from scratch would be ideal.

[Wowz532]

Why did they change developers 2 other times insteadm of staying with one developer?

[eNDIE]

Why did they change developers 2 other times insteadm of staying with one developer?

you men PE and PE2? PE went bellyup and restarted as p2 or what it was then they sunk again and cryptic bought the license.

[jsutich]

Quick reminder for everyone:

Posting your disappointment with the sweepstakes rules is fine. Breaking the Forum Rules (http://forums.startrekonline.com/announcement.php?f=20) and Code of Conduct (http://www.startrekonline.com/code_of_conduct) while doing so is not fine.

Engaging in a flamewar over the topic is completely out of bounds.

[Falin]

still not sure if i've really entered it or not, as i haven't gotten any conformation of such and can keep "entering" on the page.

[Grethorax]

Only USA and Canada Residents? That so totally sucks!

[boothby]

Only USA and Canada Residents? That so totally sucks!

We'll have to wait and see.

[KO_Gilligan]

still not sure if i've really entered it or not, as i haven't gotten any conformation of such and can keep "entering" on the page.

I tried that, because It seemed that way for me to, no confirmation. But on the second attempt you will get a little red line of type at the top of the page saying you already entered

[Falin]

ah, hidden like that, should have it pop up right where the dang "rules" were. ;)

[LordDave]

You missed out on thing... YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to be legible for the competition!

What a rip! This is so Bias, atleast make the competition international! Unless ofcourse the target market for this games are only North Americans.

What a shame they will be missing out on Millions of dollars that could be made on the international market, tell me this is the second developer to take on startrek online? hmm, i wonder why.... they dont have a clue

Strongly implies split US/EU servers and no EU folks in the beta too :(

Please don't ruin and console-ificate this game Cryptic, please. Guess it's inevitable, since every piece of news on Champions seems to indicate that it's an MMO-lite. I'd hate for this game to go down the same path.

Only USA and Canada Residents? That so totally sucks!

Does anyone mind if I cry due to these people not reading the whole thread where several people stated how the LAWS OF OTHER COUNTRIES prohibit such contests and that it's out of Cryptic's hands?

Please, I implore you all:
Don't be upset that your country isn't included: It's not Cryptic's fault, it's your government's fault. Tell them to model their gambling laws after the US and you'll be getting your contests just like we are.
Right Razor?

[BFsMarvintm]

hmm canadian and usa? i guess the eu players get shafted

hay I am super happy I can enter. mostly us Canadians get shafted hehe.
GL to all.
WOOOT

[zagguy]

merci beaucoup, I really appreciate the sweepstake :)

STO rule!!!!!

[eNDIE]

The only problem here is that im not allowed to go out and advertise this lottery otherwise its fine. so i dont think its because of the laws.

[LordDave]

The only problem here is that im not allowed to go out and advertise this lottery otherwise its fine. so i dont think its because of the laws.

1. Are you sure?
2. Why not? Maybe the same rules apply to Crytpic.

[gkeffer]

Why would a global MMO title be limited to NA for a simple giveaway contest? It is not like this is a sweepstakes or something. That just smacks of silly BS legal crap. :mad:

If someone can purchase the title and can use their credit card for a sub then they should qualify. Hell I'm a US citizen living abroad so does that mean I dont qualify? I do legally reside is a couple countries.

Anyway, does this mean that lifetime subs will be available for purchase then?

In some circumstances contests or sweepstakes serve two purposes
One to test the waters, obviously the amount of sign ups could give Cryptic demographics on the possible
recurring revenue that could be generated, and of course be used to a certain extent as collateral to obtain funding to develop this project.
The second is that everyone likes free stuff, so it helps keep the natives from being restless.
I for one have told everyone I know about the contest, and they have signed up. Cryptic as well as any other developer knows this will happen, therefore increasing the signups.

As for Europe and the other countries, they will probably be offered a free lifetime eventually.
After the legalities are worked out. This freebie will poll that part of the world when the time comes

[.Spartan]

In some circumstances contests or sweepstakes serve two purposes
One to test the waters, obviously the amount of sign ups could give Cryptic demographics on the possible
recurring revenue that could be generated, and of course be used to a certain extent as collateral to obtain funding to develop this project.
The second is that everyone likes free stuff, so it helps keep the natives from being restless.
I for one have told everyone I know about the contest, and they have signed up. Cryptic as well as any other developer knows this will happen, therefore increasing the signups.

As for Europe and the other countries, they will probably be offered a free lifetime eventually.
After the legalities are worked out. This freebie will poll that part of the world when the time comes

I know. I'm fully aware of the "market value" aspect of such things but for this franchise I firmly disagree with its usage however. Call me crazy but this particular title is a slam dunk on the finance side of things. I have about $20K I would pony up as an investment in the franchise if money was an issue and could probably raise about $200k more if I talked some friends within a couple weeks. Moreover I'm also certain many other members of this community, as it stands now, would throw stupid money at Cryptic if they asked. Hell I bet even Mr. Nimoy would invest heavily if given the option - but I digress...

In short my primary comment was more of a rhetorical question made out frustration as a knee jerk reaction because Cryptic has been doing such a wonderful job of ramping up this title so far the contest came across as a misstep of sorts.

You see the same data could simply be acquired by doing a beta sign up (with no promise of acceptance) broken down by region and then deciding to give some subs away after the fact. Then there is always the traffic stats to the site and of course other reliable methods of garnering such information - etc...

[eNDIE]

1. Are you sure?
2. Why not? Maybe the same rules apply to Crytpic.

1.Yes
2.Na the companys are ok its just that i as a person or our media etc are not allowed to promote a foreign lotteries.Allthough i dont think it aply since you have tho be a member of the site to participate its not counted as a public one.

It doesnt matter realy its the principle not the prize itself just hope its our turn next time or atleast are included:)

[Grig]

either way glad to see canadian allowed WOOT!! GLE!! dont win still get to get on and play.

[Bzrk]

Although I really love this sort of contests, I really really hate the fact that europeans (and oceanic and asians etc,) are left out of the loop again. Ok, maybe there will be some contest for us to, but I strongly recommend cryptic NOT to come up with these sorts of split contests etc. Even if there will be us and euro servers. Let erevyone compete or none.

No flame intended though, just a suggestion. The prize is huge btw. Very nice :D

[HOME]

This is a dream I hope will come true.. I would play this all day... I have played many MMO's.. but I have never found one with A Love for the subject at hand ... Like Star Trek

Good luck to all... but I hope I am a winner

[Yezar]

Way to make the rest of the word feel wanted. Is this game for North America only? Do the people behind the game not care about us?

I'm sure UK law does not restrict this contest to it's Citizens.

[captainspock4]

Hopefully they will give the winner the choice to choose which version they want of the game, like the computer or console versions, being that they announced that it will be coming to the consoles. XBOX 360 PLEASE!!!!!! My computer is too old to play it and I don't have the money to buy new parts!

[Kordeth]

Worked for me. Don't know why I bother, I never win these things lol. It would make my wife happy if I did. She doesn't want me to get it because of the month fee lol.

My wife isn't a gamer nor does she know how these things work so as long as I am paying the monthly fee out of my individual checking account we're good.

I have been waiting for this since MMORPGs began. I'm very excited!

Has there been or will there be a beta event for people to sign up for? Being a QA tester by trade I'd love to play this and be able to submit defects and/or suggest improvements to make this release super smooth and fun.

Qapla' !!

[Elvyne]

Why are these type of contest always for us and canada residents only. When will companies learn there is a player base outside of the US and Canada. Like for Example Europe =/.

im fairly sure that the European union and its residents, UK, NL etc have rules regarding contest but none of these rules remove the option of contests like these. So start setting one up for us aswell, unless you want to make us feel pretty unwelcome.

[VMaxx]

To celebrate the launch of our new community for Star Trek® Online, Cryptic Studios will give five (5!!) lucky winners lifetime subscriptions to STO!

To enter, all you have to do is register as a member of the Star Trek Online community by 11:59 p.m. PDT on August 17, 2008, and click the sweepstakes link. The winners will be chosen at random on or about August 25, 2008, and will be notified by e-mail and/or overnight mail on or about August 28.

Five Winners Will Receive:

* Retail copy of Star Trek Online
* Lifetime subscription to Star Trek Online

Total estimated retail value: $550.00 (US)

Enter the sweepstakes! (http://www.startrekonline.com/sweepstakes)

I clicked and signed up but got no confirmation that it was successful, nor an e-mail notifying me of success. Was I supposed to get an e-mail, or some "congratulations for signing up" page or something? Some means of verifying our status would be helpful and appreciated.

Thanks!

[reujwils]

I also agree with this...I hit the submit to sweepstakes and I'm redirected to the home page. Without any confirmation, I don't know if it worked or not. But if I try again, and have multiple entries, you get disqualified...maybe you could send an e-mail to everyone who is signed up so far, or something so we know? Thanks!!

[Tovo]

I hope that Cryptic will include Europe in some special draw aswell. Im not mad, its the way that it is. USA, then everyone else.

[Ziegler]

I'm just suprised the residents of RI are allowed...I wonder if they finally changed their rules or something.

[Myopic_Aardvark]

im fairly sure that the European union and its residents, UK, NL etc have rules regarding contest but none of these rules remove the option of contests like these. So start setting one up for us aswell, unless you want to make us feel pretty unwelcome.

Actually, COH recently ran a couple of contests to win PCs, but they were only open to UK residents (despite us all being one happy family in the EU)

So yeah, I can see the point (despite my flaming reaction last night) of the US/Canada only). Still think they should have arranged it in multiple territories first.

I suppose it depends on how they're going to publish it in territories other than the US too. After all, Cryptic can guarantee a lifetime sub in the US since the're publishing it, but they might not be elsewhere.

[Timeless]

Actually, COH recently ran a couple of contests to win PCs, but they were only open to UK residents (despite us all being one happy family in the EU)

So yeah, I can see the point (despite my flaming reaction last night) of the US/Canada only). Still think they should have arranged it in multiple territories first.

I suppose it depends on how they're going to publish it in territories other than the US too. After all, Cryptic can guarantee a lifetime sub in the US since the're publishing it, but they might not be elsewhere.

Oh man, I'd love a lifetime membership, but I'm UK. :(

[Shatterhand]

As often as I usually don't win sweepstakes like these (I swear I must have some bad mojo or something), I couldn't pass this up. A lifetime subscription? Warp speed, Mr. Sulu.

I wonder if they'll be offering that as a subscription option once the game goes live. (apologies if this has already been discussed and/or answered in another thread)

[NCC74656]

I really want to win this. A lifetime subscription to STO? Thats intense. Warp Nine Mr. Paris...Engage

[Elvyne]

Actually, COH recently ran a couple of contests to win PCs, but they were only open to UK residents (despite us all being one happy family in the EU)

So yeah, I can see the point (despite my flaming reaction last night) of the US/Canada only). Still think they should have arranged it in multiple territories first.

I suppose it depends on how they're going to publish it in territories other than the US too. After all, Cryptic can guarantee a lifetime sub in the US since the're publishing it, but they might not be elsewhere.

Despite the fact that each country in europe has its own set of rules, they hardly really differ enough to make contests impossible within european countries. But appearently companies tend to think that once its done in the US and UK, the rest of the left out countries wont mind anymore. Then again, most europeans are customed to being shafted by companies in there releases and contests, specially mmo companies.

[Ranchan]

This is the best idea EVER! Ive been a fan since it all started. I even did a hammy video at the universal studios where you do a star trek skit.

Best of luck to you all!

[mobiusptc]

wow that would be nice prize =)

not better way to get a loyal following then to give the chance of winning a juicy bribe XD XD i approve

[Malcolm_Rush]

You(Cryptic) could at least have said that the contest is for U.S only before people register. Now it seems like a cheap trick to get people to register on the site.

Very dissappointed to read it after I had to fill in all the stuff. It isn't that hard to type one sentence: Contest for U.S. Residents only.

And no, I would have seen no reason to register on the site before the game would be out or if I had seen some real new content.

[Frankyt49]

I2. ELIGIBILITY: Sweepstakes is open to legal residents of the fifty (50) United States and Washington, D.C. (specifically excluding Puerto Rico and other US territories and possessions) or Canada (excluding Quebec) who have reached the age of majority in their state/province of residence at time of entry and who have internet access as of the Start Date.
well that rules me out! :( Don't suppose theres gonna be any EU contests will there?

[jsutich]

I clicked and signed up but got no confirmation that it was successful, nor an e-mail notifying me of success. Was I supposed to get an e-mail, or some "congratulations for signing up" page or something? Some means of verifying our status would be helpful and appreciated.

Thanks!

Once you have entered the sweepstakes there will be a confirmation message displayed near the top of the home page that says "Thank you for your submission!" on a blue bar.

If you are unsure as to whether you have successfully entered or not, try to enter again. You will get a message displayed near the top of the home page that says "You have already entered the sweepstakes." on a red bar if your submission went through the first time.

[Benjammn]

Too bad, as this confirms that the game will have a subscription. But nevertheless, a game of this magnitude should have one.
Hope I win!!

@Euros: Sorry for your shafting again, but srlsy think it's time to not expect that you can compete....just saying that QQing has happened each time a contest has left them out.

[GabeKnight]

You(Cryptic) could at least have said that the contest is for U.S only before people register. Now it seems like a cheap trick to get people to register on the site.

Very dissappointed to read it after I had to fill in all the stuff. It isn't that hard to type one sentence: Contest for U.S. Residents only.

And no, I would have seen no reason to register on the site before the game would be out or if I had seen some real new content.

Of course this is a cheap trick to get more registrations on the forum. It's so they can later turn around and say they had x number of people register before the game was even in beta. One thing you can guarantee in the MMOG industry is that every studio - whether it's Cryptic, NC Soft, Turbine, SOE, et al. - uses unscurpulous and disshonest tactics to fiddle their numbers and make themselves seem better than they are. This isn't a rant or insult against those companies, it's just a fact.

On-topic: I'm -very- disappointed by the restrictions on this contest. I can order games from Amazon US and get them shipped to the UK, so why should this contest be any different? And since the lifetime sub is an electronic prize it's unaffected by postage, export/import duties, and other hurdles which physical products face.

There's no excuse, legal or otherwise, other than laziness for excluding certain overseas territories. Notice this contest also doesn't include overseas troops whose bases are considered US soil?

I like Cryptic, and I'm looking forward to both STO and Champions. But when I see American companies making lame excuses as to why they simply can't be bothered to include certain territories in a competition, it just majorly ****es me off. MMOGs are supposed to be about bringing people from around the world together, yet studios do everything they can to segregate populations (separate servers for different countries, for example).

[opiewon]

well i went and signed up fro the sweepstakes and acidently hit the second choice about notifying me if theres any sweepstakes somewhere else and chose the United states am i stillin sweepstakes sence it wont let me go back and fix my boo boo.

[WEKS]

Of course this is a cheap trick to get more registrations on the forum. It's so they can later turn around and say they had x number of people register before the game was even in beta. One thing you can guarantee in the MMOG industry is that every studio - whether it's Cryptic, NC Soft, Turbine, SOE, et al. - uses unscurpulous and disshonest tactics to fiddle their numbers and make themselves seem better than they are. This isn't a rant or insult against those companies, it's just a fact.

On-topic: I'm -very- disappointed by the restrictions on this contest. I can order games from Amazon US and get them shipped to the UK, so why should this contest be any different? And since the lifetime sub is an electronic prize it's unaffected by postage, export/import duties, and other hurdles which physical products face.

There's no excuse, legal or otherwise, other than laziness for excluding certain overseas territories. Notice this contest also doesn't include overseas troops whose bases are considered US soil?

I like Cryptic, and I'm looking forward to both STO and Champions. But when I see American companies making lame excuses as to why they simply can't be bothered to include certain territories in a competition, it just majorly ****es me off. MMOGs are supposed to be about bringing people from around the world together, yet studios do everything they can to segregate populations (separate servers for different countries, for example).

As per usual the US residents get all the fun while the rest of the world gets the dirty end of the stick.

*Sigh* I guess I have just watched too much Star Trek where everyone is considered equal.

Does anyone mind if I cry due to these people not reading the whole thread where several people stated how the LAWS OF OTHER COUNTRIES prohibit such contests and that it's out of Cryptic's hands?

I can assure you good sir, at least where I live, there is no law against winning prizes.

[Ignak]

*Sigh* I guess I just watched too much Star Trek where everyone is considered equal.

Yeah, indeed. Me too :(

[Tomkan]

Yeah, indeed. Me too :(

Me three :(

[amb]

No worries, I'm sure we will see something equal in Europe. I hope they are not trying to cover Europe with 5 lifetime subs but 5 for Germany, 5 for our islanders where its cold and rainy all the time (I totally forgot the name... :P). France... ah well, givem five, too. ;)
If for Europe as a whole 10 liftime subs would make me happy.

[Malcolm_Rush]

No worries, I'm sure we will see something equal in Europe. I hope they are not trying to cover Europe with 5 lifetime subs but 5 for Germany, 5 for our islanders where its cold and rainy all the time (I totally forgot the name... :P). France... ah well, givem five, too. ;)
If for Europe as a whole 10 liftime subs would make me happy.

What about The Netherlands, Spain, Portugal, Italy etc etc?

Oh let me guess, they are probably not important enough for the EU. Only Germany, France and the UK are :rolleyes:

Although I doubt they will held this kind of contest in The Netherlands, or in the EU at all.

Of course this is a cheap trick to get more registrations on the forum. It's so they can later turn around and say they had x number of people register before the game was even in beta

Well they could have least been honest about it.

[NCC74656]

This would really help Leaders of Fleets (like me) because its one less thing to worry about.

[Elvyne]

@Euros: Sorry for your shafting again, but srlsy think it's time to not expect that you can compete....just saying that QQing has happened each time a contest has left them out.

So, each time a contest is given we should just sit by and watch the US once again get everything? Seriously, you guys need to pull your heads out of your asses and start to see that america isnt the only country in the world. Not everything is US this and That.

I am sorry but i can no longer agree to the nationality discrimination that companies do that are international when setting up contests like these.

Seeing how cryptic does answer here, I guess they need to know they own there european customer base an explenation on why this contest is US only and if Europe will ever get one.

[samediarchon]

I'm totally going to win this. :)

[Kayless]

As per usual the US residents get all the fun while the rest of the world gets the dirty end of the stick... Frakkin damn right, I'm so sick of it, just came over from the Warhammer Online forums where EU's getting shafted again... sometimes... sometimes... ah F**k it...

[LordDave]

Frakkin damn right, I'm so sick of it, just came over from the Warhammer Online forums where EU's getting shafted again... sometimes... sometimes... ah F**k it...

EU laws are to blame. Deal with them.

[Elvyne]

EU laws are to blame. Deal with them.

I can assure you they arent. European laws and Country laws allow contests and prices to be won. with exception of only a few countries ofcourse. Companies, just simply tend to shaft europe due to the fact they dont wish to spend time sorting out the Paperwork. Wich is bull if you ask me.

[trek68]

approximate $ 550.00 value of a lifetime membership? That is a lot of money to play a game. Any news of the monthly fee? is shouldn't be more than a dollar or two per month considering the amount of potential players.

[LordDave]

I can assure you they arent. European laws and Country laws allow contests and prices to be won. with exception of only a few countries ofcourse. Companies, just simply tend to shaft europe due to the fact they dont wish to spend time sorting out the Paperwork. Wich is bull if you ask me.

What are the specifics though? In the US you can't have a contest open to all unless there is no purchase necessary. In that context, the contest is not gambling. What about the EU? How do they define Gambling?

[Bodyslide]

Sweet...Hope to Win

[Elvyne]

What are the specifics though? In the US you can't have a contest open to all unless there is no purchase necessary. In that context, the contest is not gambling. What about the EU? How do they define Gambling?

This should provide you with the neccesary information.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Result.do?arg0=gambling&arg1=&arg2=&titre=titre&chlang=en&RechType=RECH_mot&Submit=Search

[Grig]

For any selected potential winner who is a Canadian resident, he/she will be required to correctly answer, unaided, a time-limited skill testing question, to be administered by telephone, email or mail.

Eh! what a skill testing question eh? Wait is that were i pour Maple syroup on snow eh! see how fast i can guess its going to cool eh? :p

/end sarcasm

[geust01]

we got a winner!
oh, we got a winner. :cool:

[GabeKnight]

If anything, Europe should get more attention than the US. We pay -more- for our monthly subs than any US citizen does, to the tune of 2 or 3 euros/pounds. Yet we (as in the entire EU) get -less- value for our money.

[LordDave]

This should provide you with the neccesary information.

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/Result.do?arg0=gambling&arg1=&arg2=&titre=titre&chlang=en&RechType=RECH_mot&Submit=Search

That wasn't very helpful. It was all legal terminology and nothing about the definition of gambling and contests.

I did find this:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question541.htm

Also I think a company has to be internationalized to do it, whatever that means.

[HoneyKira]

It'll be awesome for whoever wins the five sweepstakes prizes. Good luck to all! ;)

[Sirbradley1]

What are the odds of winning?

[s32ndDamian]

What are the odds of winning?

Depends on how many people are signed up before the deadline I'd guess...
:D:D

[Elvyne]

If anything, Europe should get more attention than the US. We pay -more- for our monthly subs than any US citizen does, to the tune of 2 or 3 euros/pounds. Yet we (as in the entire EU) get -less- value for our money.

they pay 15 USD we pay 15 euro's. In general we pay around 25 USD a month to play the game. but thats generally thanks to the taxes the european union has put in. Like VAT and whatever. But yeah, in general we should pay around 9.95 euro, were america pays 14.95 USD.

@lorddave

If i understand correctly, it means that for a company to make them self lawsuit proof (in otherwords, keeping the retards from sueing them) they need to have disclaimers and such set up based on each country. Considering the US has laws by state and as a whole as were europe has laws by countries and a whole there are lot of things to read and take into consideration. They also have to be a company selling and shipping international. Wich most game companies are together with there publishers.

So for a company to do an international contest, they need a set of disclaimers covering each country, wich will be around 20-40 chapters, that they wish to hold the contest in. But even so, there is simply no reason to discriminate between the USA and EU anymore regarding international companies. Cryptic is such a international company.

[Gojna]

I might enter this, but I have a dilema. My birthday is August 17th, and I turn 18 on that day. Does that mean I can't enter or do I just have to wait until the 17th to enter?

[Don]

hi guys just joined it today and the game sounds good

[johnson4444]

It'd be terrific to offer the same promotion in Australia -- we usually get the US versions of MMOs, so I'm guessing we could be included.

Unless, of course, we're in line for our own dedicated servers? Now THAT would be extra special...

[Naivedo]

Good luck to all. What a great idea for a contest.

[baz08]

how very typical of an american company to only have a contest for its own country and screw the rest of the world who would very much like to be included in the contest, i also now wonder if only the US and canada will be able to play the game, as whenever a game or DVD is released by the US it takes at least 6 weeks before it hits shelves in any other country, a bit discriminatory i think of the company to do this contest in that way

[simplejack]

Great contest.

Shame it is only for Northern America, I hope there will be something for the rest of the world in the future!

[Djin]

how very typical of an american company to only have a contest for its own country and screw the rest of the world who would very much like to be included in the contest, i also now wonder if only the US and canada will be able to play the game, as whenever a game or DVD is released by the US it takes at least 6 weeks before it hits shelves in any other country, a bit discriminatory i think of the company to do this contest in that way

It's not America, but the laws of other countries that prevent such contest.

Please learn and learn to read before you flame America with ignorance.

[Malcolm_Rush]

It's not America, but the laws of other countries that prevent such contest.

Please learn and learn to read before you flame America with ignorance.

As said earlier in this topic(last page) it is not the laws of the other countries. It is Cryptic in this case that doesn't want to do it.

And he wasn't flaming america. He was...if it was flaming....the company. Which is American. And American companies do follow the trend to exclude everyone except Canada from such contests.

[Djin]

As said earlier in this topic(last page) it is not the laws of the other countries. It is Cryptic in this case that doesn't want to do it.

And he wasn't flaming america. He was...if it was flaming....the company. Which is American. And American companies do follow the trend to exclude everyone except Canada from such contests.

I'm sorry that the contest isn't in all 195 countries world wide.

US/CAN seems to be lucky. A lot of times I see EU contest only too. I don't get all huffy about it. I cope, move on and wait.

[Malcolm_Rush]

I'm sorry that the contest isn't in all 195 countries world wide.

US/CAN seems to be lucky. A lot of times I see EU contest only too. I don't get all huffy about it. I cope, move on and wait.

Oh? I never saw contests like this EU only. But that's me and maybe I haven't been looking around enough. And you also changed your point, first your point was that it wasn't available in the EU because of laws, now you're standpoint is: Get over it because there are enough EU contests I cannot compete in.

Yes, I don't like it that the contest isn't in the EU but I can deal with that. What I don't like is that they tricked people into registering by mentioning that it isn't for the EU after you registered. That is just low if you ask me.

[Djin]

Oh? I never saw contests like this EU only. But that's me and maybe I haven't been looking around enough. And you also changed your point, first your point was that it wasn't available in the EU because of laws, now you're standpoint is: Get over it because there are enough EU contests I cannot compete in.

Yes, I don't like it that the contest isn't in the EU but I can deal with that. What I don't like is that they tricked people into registering by mentioning that it isn't for the EU after you registered. That is just low if you ask me.

I have changed my tune. Where there are PLEANTY of contest in EU only, I get over it... what am I going to do? Stop the world from spinning and make it go the other direction? No.

So you got "tricked" in only because you wanted to win a game and really not have anything constructive to add to the community... typical.

OH THE LIES! THE HORROR! CRYPTIC HAS TRICKED US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

[blakile]

Awesome! I am so entered! :D So i wonder who has done the math and figured out how long this lifetme subscription is? :D

[zxzxi]

I have a question.

They talk about age of maturity. Does that mean you HAVE to be 18 or older to participate, or can you participate even if you're 17 and will turn 18 very soon (but after the end of the sweepstakes)?

[Malcolm_Rush]

So you got "tricked" in only because you wanted to win a game and really not have anything constructive to add to the community... typical.

!

Yeah I wanted to win the game, not that I won't buy it if I wouldn't win because I really want to play Star Trek Online. And at the moment I know too little about the game to add something constructive, maybe after tonight that will change ;)

[Djin]

I have a question.

They talk about age of maturity. Does that mean you HAVE to be 18 or older to participate, or can you participate even if you're 17 and will turn 18 very soon (but after the end of the sweepstakes)?

18 years old is the legal age for a contract, contest, etc...

[devland]

The contest form had an option that said that you were suppose to be notified if the contest is available in your country as well.
Has anyone received any such info?

[Bigs1759]

Shweet! Good to see promotions like this being done.

[WEKS]

The contest form had an option that said that you were suppose to be notified if the contest is available in your country as well.
Has anyone received any such info?

I do believe that the odds of getting such a mail is about equal to winning the contest.

As Djin (http://forums.startrekonline.com/member.php?u=2937) has already made it very clear in this thread, Cryptic is too lazy to make the contest available anywhere but North America.

[Triblade]

Darn, US only??
Damn you all!!

I'm a proud European citizen and I find it, especially for Star Trek (race doesn't matter??), very desturbing that it's geographical racism. :mad:

[Djin]

I do believe that the odds of getting such a mail is about equal to winning the contest.

As Djin (http://forums.startrekonline.com/member.php?u=2937) has already made it very clear in this thread, Cryptic is too lazy to make the contest available anywhere but North America.

Laws, laws, and more laws.

Until you understand that the whole world is nothing like the US, and never will be... we will always have the advantage of getting better things then everyone else.

I never said Cryptic was too lazy...

[raisen]

i just hope the contest is staged for europe and the rest of the world

[Ruthlessgravity]

Darn, US only??
Damn you all!!

I'm a proud European citizen and I find it, especially for Star Trek (race doesn't matter??), very desturbing that it's geographical racism. :mad:

Its not that Cryptic Studios did this intentionally, its legalilty.

I entered a contest for BioWare and one of the guys said the reason why it was Canada and US only was because their lawyers only allowed it. For some reasons they didn't explain.

[critch]

Canada has some really stupid laws about entering contests.

Anyway, I hope there's a lifetime sub for sale like they had for LOTR. Although I wouldn't say no to winning this contest ;)

[zxzxi]

18 years old is the legal age for a contract, contest, etc...

DARN!

I'm going to be too young for this sweepstakes by only 17 days. That is completely unfair.

Al well, sadly life is not fair.

[r2d2ott]

I'm so in.

[Rulke]

Being from Australia, I'm not bothered in the slightest. I was prepared to pay for this product when I first caught the details of the product and comp or no comp, it's all good.:)

[Susarian]

I hope I win! No whammies:D!

[luke242ti]

worth a shot. looks like a fun game.

[Triblade]

Its not that Cryptic Studios did this intentionally, its legalilty.

I entered a contest for BioWare and one of the guys said the reason why it was Canada and US only was because their lawyers only allowed it. For some reasons they didn't explain.
Ofcourse they only allow Canada and the US... They have to work harder to get to know the legal issues in the rest of the world.
There lawyers just said 'no' while thinking: Phew, now we don't have to work hard... Luckely they didn't push on and pay a firm that IS willing to work for there money.
That's why they didn't explain.


Until you understand that the whole world is nothing like the US, and never will be... we will always have the advantage of getting better things then everyone else.

I think some people in the US, like their lawyers, think the US IS the rest of the world...
There are more countries and like the insurances some are much better then the US.
So don't try to think your better is any way just because your from a hypocrytic country.

[BlazerBlade]

crossing fingers

[Bl4ckSh33p]

Good luck to everyone! I hope there will be a similar contest for Europe/Germany. :)

[WEKS]

we will always have the advantage of getting better things then everyone else.

And it's exactly attitudes like that the whole world hates the United States.

Just out of curiosity, how do you defend their approach of only telling you that the contest is available to North American residents AFTER you've completed the registration process?

[Warped]

Oh Dear, more than 20 pages on the topic of 5 free subs!! How sad is that ? Probably not as sad as me taking the time to add another comment :-) Yes it would be nice to include the rest of the world but as the chances of winning are one in thousands I'm not losing any sleep over it.

Live long or fester

[stuffedfigs]

Laws, laws, and more laws.

Until you understand that the whole world is nothing like the US, and never will be... we will always have the advantage of getting better things then everyone else.

I never said Cryptic was too lazy...

Djin, i don't think you understand that the United States is like the rest of the world... you speak English like a large percentage of the world ,which us Brits here over the pond gifted you with, for a start (although it is slightly dumbed down) The only reason the US has an advantage is because if you can't have something, you take it, and like another person has said that is why the United States is one of the most hated countries in the world, and will always be.

[clairestarchaser]

Wait, does that mean that we have to pay for playing the game/membership?

[zxzxi]

Most likely yes.

btw, I forgot about the month of September. So I'm actually too young for a month and 17 days.

Still...............err.

[Hirogen]

there are legalities when making contests. Sometimes contests have to be within a certain countrie(s) because of rules or laws in countries like yours. Its just the nature of the beast sometimes.

Blizzard gets it done, so why not cryptic?

som EU counteries has laws like that and some dont so thats not the reason.

[Hirogen]

Wait, does that mean that we have to pay for playing the game/membership?

Like every other commercial MMO ;)

[WEKS]

Blizzard gets it done, so why not cryptic?

They are just lazy, there is no laws that forbid Europeans or another people from winning prizes, it just takes a little effort on behalf of the organizers to get it done. So while I'm sure it's nice to hide behind the Laws, laws, and more laws. defense, it just doesn't hold up. As you said, Blizzard can do it, so there is no (acceptable) reason why Cryptic can't.

[Honvik]

boo give us one in UK!

[Vulcan_Sipho]

sorry didn't see if this was mentioned or not,could a person fromthe usa butoverseas register game thru his parents home in usa?

[Tester_Pedro]

is there any possibility to delete my account on this site? i wanted to take on the sweepstake but only after registration i find out that it is only for USA a Canada people. this is a bad policy and i can only imagine what comes next.
delete my acc and all information about me that you received from me.

thank you.

[Jack007465]

when will winners be anoused?

[FrankieDoo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankieDoo
2. ELIGIBILITY: Sweepstakes is open to legal residents of the fifty (50) United States and Washington, D.C. (specifically excluding Puerto Rico and other US territories and possessions) or Canada (excluding Quebec) ...

This means that we can't enter, right? Those who lives in Quebec.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksniperx
LoL ya I am not sure why Quebec is always left out. They are for now still with Canada. Just ask one of the Dev's, they might shed more light on why that is........


anywho I am from Ottawa, Ontario lol and I'll do my part.

Originally Posted by FrankieDoo
Alright. Yeah. Maybe it's because of our laws or something we're different, but we are indeed still part of Canada. All sweepstakes that I've seen, even those from Space Channel, we are out. Anyway, I'll maybe ask them.

[FrankieDoo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by FrankieDoo
2. ELIGIBILITY: Sweepstakes is open to legal residents of the fifty (50) United States and Washington, D.C. (specifically excluding Puerto Rico and other US territories and possessions) or Canada (excluding Quebec) ...

This means that we can't enter, right? Those who lives in Quebec.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Darksniperx
LoL ya I am not sure why Quebec is always left out. They are for now still with Canada. Just ask one of the Dev's, they might shed more light on why that is........


anywho I am from Ottawa, Ontario lol and I'll do my part.

Originally Posted by FrankieDoo
Alright. Yeah. Maybe it's because of our laws or something we're different, but we are indeed still part of Canada. All sweepstakes that I've seen, even those from Space Channel, we are out. Anyway, I'll maybe ask them.

I would like to know why are we always excluded from all sweepstakes?

[Vulcan_Sipho]

ok i play guild wars, and i know quebec is always ommitted from giveaways and it has something to do with quebec law on giveaways. i think to get something in quebec you have to answer a math question or something like that, you can't just get it for free.

[FrankieDoo]

Oh yeah! It's all about the laws... Oh! Yeah... that one. Hehe!! The math!!

[ibby1kanobi]

I'm in. This is a sweet move by Cryptic. I loved City of Heroes, and I hope they do just as well with this.

[FrankieDoo]

ok i play guild wars, and i know quebec is always ommitted from giveaways and it has something to do with quebec law on giveaways. i think to get something in quebec you have to answer a math question or something like that, you can't just get it for free.
Oh! Yeah. Guild Wars. I have that too. Free to play on-line. But, I stopped playing it because of lack of unity and team playing. Everyone is doing their little own business & we're left alone. Or they are mean people rude.

[pyriel32]

loveing what i have seen so far

[Vulcan_Sipho]

anet is destroying GW so devs of STO if you read these things please use Guild wars as example ofhow not to run a game

[Croshy]

Greetings Star-Trek fans!

I am from Germany but i played all my MMORPGs (Everquest, Everquest 2, Vanguard) in English because ... well for me its like the only way to play an MMORPG; and playing international together is waaaaay more fun and should be more done then building international conflicts and prejudices :) ( bowing before Spok :D )

Due to this my question is if i am allowed to sign up for the lottery or if i will have to wait and hope if there will also be one in Europe (e.g. United Kingdom) ? Or is there one planned at all ?

Again greetings and thanks !

[dinozzo]

the sweepstake prize is only open to US residents but there is an option to click if there was a similar offer to a region of your choice eg UK and they will inform you

[Allardyn]

This has been touched on before but to re-iterate.

They are not able to offer a contest outside of North America, its not that they don't want to; it's that they cannot. At least not with a whole lot of redtape to deal with. Essentially it comes down to international trading laws and duties, in North America we have the "Free Trade Agreement" which bypasses many of these types of laws.

I'm obviously not a part of Cryptic in anyway shape or form, but I believe I can safely say that all subscription plans will be available worldwide. It would just be silly not to "Make It So".