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Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-02-2008, 06:16 PM

Im a life long fan, but I have my doubts about this "prequal". Im having trouble seeing any original characters played by, well, any one else.

Wonko

08-02-2008, 07:06 PM

Simon Pegg and John Cho are enough to get me to go see it. I hope it's worth it.

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-02-2008, 07:41 PM

Yeah. At least they are trying to get the younger people to look as close as they can.

Golic

08-02-2008, 11:40 PM

I watched Lost a few times and all I can say about that show is bland very bland.
I dont expect a lot from Abrams Trek.

El Capitan

08-02-2008, 11:45 PM

Im a life long fan, but I have my doubts about this "prequal". Im having trouble seeing any original characters played by, well, any one else.

I feel the same way. Its a bit silly, but like, I feel almost like I am betraying something in some fashion. I don't like the idea of such iconic characters being played by other people. But, regardless of that, I will go to the movie and buy it no matter how good or bad it is on DVD. Hopefully enough money goes into this endeavor, they will make a new series.

hinaito

08-02-2008, 11:56 PM

The movie's teaser trailer was enough to get me to go see it. Anyone who can make chills go through my spine that many times must be a great director... I too saw Lost though and I never understood it. But I suspect that the new Star Trek movie will not disappoint.

spartan547

08-03-2008, 12:02 AM

Gul Kalis

08-03-2008, 12:08 AM

Lost got way too complicated for me as it went further down the road. Basically after I heard, "Hey you got yourself a fish biscuit! How'd ya do that?" and saw Sawyer locked in a cage when randomly tuning into an episode I was truly Lost with Lost and gave up keeping up with it.

I liked Cloverfield, BUT I pray to god he doesn't use that shaky cam in ST. I have no wish to be puked on by some guy in Spock ears.

I'm excited about the movie, but I'm skeptical as it is an odd numbered Star Trek. Although, Nemesis probably messed up the odd numbered crux on ST so it's safe there. Honestly, Simon Pegg was a big bonus for me too, as I love his movies.
We'll just have to wait, pray, send death threats to Abrams to make sure he doesn't screw it up, and wait some more to see if he does it right.

boz75

08-03-2008, 05:06 AM

I feel the same way. Its a bit silly, but like, I feel almost like I am betraying something in some fashion. I don't like the idea of such iconic characters being played by other people. But, regardless of that, I will go to the movie and buy it no matter how good or bad it is on DVD. Hopefully enough money goes into this endeavor, they will make a new series.

Agreed, I don't mind Trek being looked at from other angles to make it fresh again... but I do not like the idea of recasting the original characters that I love (no disrespect to the new actors)
Also, please don't mess with the lore and universe we know!
I will obviously watch it and reserve final jugdement until I see it.

Duras

08-03-2008, 05:13 AM

I liked the trailer for the new film, the internal structure of the ship and watching them weld away.

I'm looking forward to the film very much, like others, I'll pass judgement till then.

Duras

08-03-2008, 05:14 AM

and its got Winona Ryder in it... ;)

jla1987

08-03-2008, 07:14 AM

I will definitely be going to see it. It's the last chance to keep the franchise going really. If it doesn't succeed, we can kiss Star Trek goodbye (at least in terms of movies and TV).

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-03-2008, 07:29 AM

oh I will see it, dont get me wrong :)

Just hope its done well. Hoping I dont see the new spock and just cant believe.

spokechecker5000

08-03-2008, 08:31 AM

I think I agree with most others on this point, I am definately going to go see it because it's TREK and I cannot pass judgment on the Movie until I actually go see it. I want it to succeed badly though even though I think they could have come up with something new rather than trying to redo somthing old. I want it to succeed because I too want Star Trek to continue and grow and move forward. Not backward, Enterprise was fine as a prequal series, but they cancled it, so why would you try doing somthing similar with a feature film? Why not try to expand forward a bit or at least something different like introducing a new crew for a new series with a feature film, we haven't seen that yet.

USS Parallax

08-03-2008, 09:36 AM

All signs point to maybe.

ddgrfn11

08-03-2008, 09:50 AM

Simon Pegg and John Cho are enough to get me to go see it. I hope it's worth it.

Who? Never heard of them.

UfcFan78

08-03-2008, 10:01 AM

Simon Pegg and John Cho are enough to get me to go see it. I hope it's worth it.

Who? Never heard of them.

The red haired guy from Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead
The South Korean from Harold and Kumar

USS Parallax

08-03-2008, 10:15 AM

So we've got comedy people working on this?

boz75

08-03-2008, 11:36 AM

So we've got comedy people working on this?

lol, never thought about it like that :D

Falin

08-03-2008, 12:05 PM

Im a life long fan, but I have my doubts about this "prequal". Im having trouble seeing any original characters played by, well, any one else.

it probably will suck, but then again it'll make loads of money since the zombies will go see it cause it's got the words "Star Trek" on it.

Bangs

08-03-2008, 12:20 PM

I'm all about the "Universe", why do they keep going back to prequels? I loved a lot of Enterprise but it's figures and majority reaction proved that the concept didn't fly with the consumer, why the hell are they doing it again?

I also realise Nemesis didn't do that great either, but from my own personal view I want to see time/politics/characters progress rather than a rehash of stuff I a) already know and b) aren't that interested in seeing.

s32ndDamian

08-03-2008, 02:23 PM

For starters the franchise has needed a serious shot in the arm for a LONG time. Don't compare ST to Lost as JJ doesn't really have a lot to do with that series anymore. The word in so far is the story looks great, the characters are great, and the CG rolling out is the best ever done. The old actors can't keep playing these roles, it's time fans started seeing Star Trek as a story about characters and less about ACTORS. Check this out, from one of the guys at Ain't It Cool News who got to screen some of the early footage. You will get a better idea of what they are doing.

Apparently – nobody had seen anything yet. Not even the execs at Paramount. JJ has a strict policy about not letting folks see anything till he’s ready to show it – and I was a bit puzzled as to why he was letting me see something. You see, JJ likes his secrets… you may not know that about him (Click Here To See His TED Talk)

Once in the tiny editing room – where there was nothing of note – just that original STAR TREK teaser poster with the Holiday 2008 date. Speaking of, I asked JJ what he thought of the decision to move the film from X-Mas to the “Iron Man” spot in May – and I could tell it annoyed him. He felt that the film would have ruled this Christmas Season and dominated the box office. However, others at the studio felt that it would play stronger in the Summer… and that it would give them longer to build the campaign to sell the world on STAR TREK.

The first 10-15 minutes in the editing room was watching JJ do a dance, in some ways it reminded me of Woody Allen contemplating how to approach a girl, or a young man purchasing condoms… He genuinely seemed to be deciding right then, whether or not he was actually going to show me something. One of his dilemmas was that JJ doesn’t put the film together in order. He works with his editor to assemble sequences of the movie. Working on all the pieces, before putting it together. So it isn’t like he just push play, he had to show me things that were most assembled in his mind. But his mind solves jigsaw puzzles by putting like pieces together without assembling the border first. Which is exactly the opposite of how my brain works, so it confounded me a bit.

SO – WHAT DID YOU SEE HARRY?

Not much. Maybe 7 minutes in all. He showed me a scene of Ben Cross (Sarek) & Winona Ryder (Amanda Grayson) cradling a baby Spock on the surface of Vulcan. A baby with Spock ears is kind of amazing to look at. But there was no dialogue here, and Vulcan wasn’t really there yet – what was there was a great rock formation that kinda reminded me of that wonky mountain/cliff thing from ARENA / BILL & TED. That said, it wasn’t the ARENA formation – and JJ said that zero effects had been done on this yet – so the lighting wasn’t right, the sky wasn’t right and there were no angry volcano type things or structures in the background, but he assured me… it’ll all look very Vulcan when it is done.

The next scene was a really nicely completed visual effects pass of a pre-Enterprise Federation ship from about 25 years before the Enterprise. I’ve no idea how this fits into the larger story, same with the Spock baby stuff. But this effects shot had a completely different space feel than anything I’ve seen before from STAR TREK or STAR WARS. The shot began on a small part of the ship, then craned back and over to reveal the ship coming into a larger shot of the ship seemingly orbiting a really angry sun. The shot was absolutely dynamic as the star was seemingly raging – and we cut to the interior of the ship – it was very shadowy and very much like that of an old diesel submarine – JJ told me that the look was an evolving look for Star Fleet – so that you could get a sense of the passage of decades here. Once again though – I didn’t see the end of the scene or really get a sense for what was going on.

I really like the dynamics and tone of this Space shot – very much not like something I’d seen before – although it was Star Trek, because the ship was a saucer, with a nacelle above and below the saucer. It just felt aggressive and frankly… badass.

After that – He reiterated that the effects were nowhere near done, blah blah blah – but it looked damn good.

After that shot, JJ wrestled with what else he had that he could show. Talking with his partners in the room – he didn’t know quite what to show. Yoko and I just looked at each other – we were kinda like deer in the headlights – just waiting to absorb whatever was shown. At this point I was a bit anxious because while I liked the first two clips – they didn’t really show anything recognizable to the timeline of Trek that I knew.

That’s when JJ had his “EUREKA” moment – he didn’t actually say “EUREKA” – but he knew what he wanted to show. He went over to the big Editing computer thingamabob and was trying to get something up, he pulled up a scene that looked like it was shot in an enormous hanger – There looked to be well over a hundred Starfleet graduates standing in the center of the room – with a couple of shuttlecrafts (old school) that looked like they were ready for boarding… the voice over was basically assigning cadets to the ship they would be serving on. The shot was huge, but oddly sparse… that’s when the editor said they had a newer version of the scene and then worked with JJ to pull it up.

Oh Wow.

The newer version was much much grander. It feels as though some Intergalactic Pearl Harbor has happened and all the cadets are anxious to get underway. You’d see cadets running to meet their shuttles – and as shuttles filled up, they took off to take their crews to their respective starships. They hold on the long shot – we hear Leonard McCoy being assigned to the Enterprise – You catch Uhura being assigned to a place… not the Enterprise. You see Chris Pine as Kirk demanding to know why his name wasn’t called out – apparently Kirk is in trouble. You remember that Kobayashi Maru thing he got a commendation for creative thinking for? Well, he isn’t smiling about it here. It seems his entire future career in Starfleet is in jeopardy – and he might miss out on whatever is going on. In a way it plays like the reality of legend. The truth behind the mythology of Kirk’s youth. How is Chris Pine? He’s young. The scene I saw wasn’t a strong KIRK scene, but a proto-KIRK scene. To see a character called Kirk that isn’t comfortably calling all the shots is a bit strange, but welcomed at the same time. I can’t wait to see how JJ takes the character and thrusts him into “greatness” – which has to happen in this film.

But then there’s McCoy – when you see McCoy… you’ll realize how metaphysically perfect Karl Urban was for the casting of the character. He’s got that right cantankerous, best buddy, ethical, but anything for his friend type of doc attitude – and he has it down pat. He’s helping Jim to get onto a ship, but in a million years I wouldn’t spoil that. It’s funny, without being ridiculous. And it begins to exhibit the early kernels of a classic Bones/Kirk interaction. Best friends with a history – and perhaps this moment is a key moment of that history. The favor that launched a career? Perhaps that is what I saw.

We see Uhura confront Spock regarding her assignment to NOT the Enterprise. Zoe Saldana doesn’t look like the Uhura we knew – she looks young and hungry, confident and determined. And Spock… perfect.

It all ended with characters arriving on the bridge, under the command of Captain Pike. Sulu was at the helm – and the bridge. And the uniforms… Classic Trek. Nice. Then for the first time in the history of Star Trek, it looked amazingly functional. It echoes that classic Trek look – but imagine if you handed that design to the folks at APPLE and said… Make it really work. I instantly believed in the functionality of everything. That’s hard to quantify, but it is true. Remember when you saw the war room underground on Hoth in EMPIRE STRIKES BACK? How it just felt functional – that’s what this looked. And it looked Star Trek, without looking as cheap as Star Trek. It was a tech-fetishists wet dream.

I will say this – I’ve no idea of what this is going to be, but I got a sense of what JJ is up to. He’s very much reinventing it – the way Robert Wise did – and at the same time – he’s directing the actors with an energy and an aliveness that we haven’t seen. This was exciting, yet strange and it felt somehow… real.

We’ve got FOREVER till we see this, but it is looking pretty sharp, even in these incredibly premature days. JJ and crew have so much work to do on the film – this isn’t like regular Trek where the set moments had very little post work, here – with a grander scope to the Trek Universe – every moment is enhanced to take us into the future. And it’s a future based on where our current technology is – and a leap forward from here. I think that’s the greatest reason for this. Since STAR TREK, the technology of man has taken some pretty amazing leaps. This is a Trek future more in tune with the present we have and the future that would come from where we are now. That said, I can’t wait to see more.

Macard

08-09-2008, 09:52 PM

I'm keeping an open mind. They've a tall order to assume these roles, but they may pull it off. Nimoy and new-Spock Zachary Quinto have been very tight. I take that as a good sign.

PS: Just joined here... I can't believe the paltry array of smilies in here! Like, nary a Trek smiley!

http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/borg.gif

http://www.allemoticons.com/Aliens/Aliens_borg_assimilation_faces.gif

http://www.smileyhut.com/silly/trek.gif

And then I found these:
http://kasper-online.de/en/docs/startrek/smileys.htm

Arcturus

08-09-2008, 10:35 PM

For me, it isn't about who's playing the role (While the Original Cast is incredible in their own right) It's about what is being shown, and said. I am asking myself if it's going to be great science fiction set in a world without poverty/war ect. Where everyone is glued to the viewscreen because what's being discovered there is just incredible. If the price to pay for that is Quinto as Spock, I'm delighted to pay it, oh and for the ticket...and DVD...:p

Doctor Nicko

08-10-2008, 01:37 AM

I watched Lost a few times and all I can say about that show is bland very bland.
I dont expect a lot from Abrams Trek.

are u crazy??? lost in one of the best shows on earth, other than star trek of course :p

jla1987

08-10-2008, 06:35 AM

s32ndDamian

08-10-2008, 08:40 AM

I don't think the new movie will suck. I'm just excited to see a new Trek on the big screen.

However, I'm worried about the guy who plays Scotty. Look at the new poster: http://img.trekmovie.com/images/lv08/st09lv08posters.jpg

Simon Pegg looks nothing at all like James Doohan...

I think different people can play the role of a character and pull it off. They aren't looking for clones of an actor to play a fictional character. If the fact this guy doesn't look like an actor "RUINS" it for you, you have other issues. The fact this new actor doesn't look exactly like JD will hardly factor into this being an enjoyable movie.

Fischfaust

08-10-2008, 09:30 AM

Im a life long fan, but I have my doubts about this "prequal". Im having trouble seeing any original characters played by, well, any one else.

Magic 8-Ball says: Outlook Not Good

davie123

08-10-2008, 09:34 AM

Lost is great

Star Trek is great

Cloverfield was great

should be a hit , the rebirth thing worked well for Batman so fingers crossed

Guon Aniri

08-10-2008, 09:51 AM

Im a life long fan, but I have my doubts about this "prequal". Im having trouble seeing any original characters played by, well, any one else.

The new movie will be great. I for one am happy to have Star Trek back in full force!

Renaise

08-10-2008, 10:06 AM

I have high hopes for it...

but Eric Bana is generally the kiss of death to any movie so we'll see.

spartan547

08-10-2008, 03:11 PM

I have faith that the movie will be good, but I won't believe what anyone says about it until I see it.

Irish-Fury

08-10-2008, 04:20 PM

I have high hopes for it...

but Eric Bana is generally the kiss of death to any movie so we'll see.

His performance is the only reason to watch Troy...

Linton

08-10-2008, 04:39 PM

Why no Voyager or Deep Space Nine movie? WHY a prequel? I'm going to have a hard time liking the idea of this movie, as it seems to be along the lines of making Star Trek appeal to "Non-Trekkies."

All I can think of is Winona Ryder's ending scene in Edward Scissorhands. *cringe*

chrisdanger

08-10-2008, 04:47 PM

I trust J.J. Abrams with the franchise. he seems to "Get It" when it comes to creating something that fan boys and casual viewers enjoy. Im glad we're seeing actors outside the previous films/Tv say nimoy taking on familiar roles. I think this'll be more of a positive than negative.

jla1987

08-10-2008, 05:55 PM

it probably will suck, but then again it'll make loads of money since the zombies will go see it cause it's got the words "Star Trek" on it.

We all need to go see it or Trek on the screen will be zombie. We can't afford another Nemesis! Star Trek won't get another chance if this movie fails!

BombardierBob

08-10-2008, 06:09 PM

For me I see some issues with the film, they plan to have Pavel Chekov on the bridge of the Enterprise
but he didn't show up right off the bat as he was the youngest navigator. Then there is the Enterprise, they redesigned her and she looks more like the movie version then the original series. I have an open mind but this one might push it from what I grew up on and come to know.

~Bob

samuraigunslinger

08-10-2008, 06:25 PM

I think not only Abrams but the entire team really get what this movie has to be to succeed.

If we want more trek in the future we have to understand that making a movie to please the fans is the most certain way to ensure no trek is ever made again.

Even at its highest point Star Trek Next Generation had about 9 million viewers an episode. That's great for syndication but it does not even show up on the radar screen for major TV franchises. This means that 'the fans' simply don't have the numbers to make a movie work or not. There are a lot of us and we can ensure DVD sales and a good opening day, but try box office success is absolutely dependent upon broad market appeal, and JJ Abrams Understands this.

From the very little that has come out of the studio there is a lot to be encouraged about. The cast is good to great, the script writting team is quality and Abrams is an excellent action director. The big key is that this is what the film is intend to be - a full on big budget action film. A STAR WARS, for Star Trek fans.

If it blows, well that will be it, but there is one huger signal that the studio is very confident in this film, something they have not been with a Star Trek Film since the first STTMP. They have moved it to the headline slot of their summer lineup. They did this AFTER seeing the pre production stills, b reels and cast. This means they were pleasantly suprised by what they saw to the degree that they were willing to bank their entire summer on this films quality.

You dont do that unless you have something very strong in your hand.

The last movie to make a big move like that was IRON MAN, and that movie blew the doors off of all expectations and will end up breaking 500million world wide.

What we all need is for Star Trek to do the same.

Please God let it be so!!!!

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-11-2008, 07:52 AM

vitamin_t

08-16-2008, 05:09 PM

What is the deal with Karl Urban as McCoy? That casting move makes no sense. And why is Chekov hanging around with young Kirk? He is too young at that point.

No1UKnow

08-16-2008, 06:23 PM

Star Trek is like sex. There is only good and better. We can hope this is better, for as someone stated before, it would be nice to get a new series out of the renewed interest.

bunglerm00se

08-16-2008, 06:23 PM

I watched Lost a few times and all I can say about that show is bland very bland.
I dont expect a lot from Abrams Trek.

You can't watch Lost "a few times" and really get what's going on. It's one of the least bland shows in the last decade or so of television. In my opinion, of course.

And frankly, as a Star Trek fan from age 4 -- growing up in the 1970's and early 80's -- I'm excited about the new movie. I'm concerned a little bit about the pretty boy playing Kirk -- even though he was good in "Smokin' Aces" and shows he can create a character -- but the rest of the cast is fine. I like the idea of Karl Urban as Bones -- definitely casting him against type.

I mean, these are *fictional characters*. I understand they have a history and mean a lot to folks -- hell, they mean a lot to me. But not many people would suggest that no one else ever play Hamlet, for example, just because Laurence Olivier did such a great job on screen. Or that the various screen portrayals of Huckleberry Finn, King Arthur, or Sherlock Holmes are somehow invalid.

whoman69

08-16-2008, 06:29 PM

The telling point as to whether it will suck is if it adds to the lore or tries to rewrite it.

Ravain

08-16-2008, 06:39 PM

I hope it is good and I think Abrams has what it takes to make it good if he respects the source material. He has done some great stuff before and this movie has a lot of potential. The way I see it is that this is like the new Terminator movie, it will either reinvigorate the franchise or it will be the final nail in the coffin. But Terminator is a bad analogy since that has a great TV show going on now.

The terminator TV series sucks and is already cancelled. Didn't last long, the female teenager terminator kind kills thethrills and using lines from the movie just didn't cut as well as Arnie

Cormoran

08-16-2008, 09:15 PM

I doubt i'll bother to see it at the cinema.

I'm hoping they're not banking on getting in a whole new group of fans, all the conversations i've had about it everyone switches off when they hear the words 'star trek'. After that i could mention it stars leonardo dicaprio , johnny depp and any other number of a-listers and they'd still be disinterested. to most people who arent fans it's just another star trek movie for them geeky people who like that sort of thing.

As for it being the last chance to keep the franchise alive, i'm of the opinion that star trek needs another big long break, give it another 15 to 25 years in the cooler and let another generation have a go at it. So i won't be fussed at all if it tanks and we don't see more trek for a while.

Rocketeer

08-16-2008, 09:33 PM

You all do realize that I created an official discussion thread a few days ago, and that a similar conversation has been going on for quite some time there?

Ravain

08-16-2008, 09:38 PM

You all do realize that I created an official discussion thread a few days ago, and that a similar conversation has been going on for quite some time there?

Threads will repeat themselves allot, due to

1) not being used and new threads of various issues bury the old

2) People are not going to go thru all 45 pages of threadto see what is what

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-16-2008, 09:40 PM

You all do realize that I created an official discussion thread a few days ago, and that a similar conversation has been going on for quite some time there?

You Do realize that this thread / discussion was started on 8/2? :D

if you click the thread title, you can see the date it was started :rolleyes:

PraetorianHistorian

08-16-2008, 09:48 PM

I have high hopes for it...

but Eric Bana is generally the kiss of death to any movie so we'll see.

I take it you never saw "Black Hawk Down"? Eric Bana's fictional character is so realistic that you wonder what you missed in reading the book.

As for the new movie, I have high hopes for it. The teaser trailer is awesome and I check the website all the time for updates. The actors chosen don't bother me at all and I think Simon Pegg fits James Doohan's shoes great. Simon Pegg is going to be the comedic relief just like James Doohan was.

*picks up his mouse* "Hello Computer!"

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-17-2008, 08:50 PM

I take it you never saw "Black Hawk Down"? Eric Bana's fictional character is so realistic that you wonder what you missed in reading the book.

As for the new movie, I have high hopes for it. The teaser trailer is awesome and I check the website all the time for updates. The actors chosen don't bother me at all and I think Simon Pegg fits James Doohan's shoes great. Simon Pegg is going to be the comedic relief just like James Doohan was.

*picks up his mouse* "Hello Computer!"

hehe--- but comon--- Mr Scott was pretty much invented by James Doohan. Down to the accent. Who else can copy that?

Ravain

08-17-2008, 09:28 PM

i think the movie do great

PraetorianHistorian

08-17-2008, 11:27 PM

hehe--- but comon--- Mr Scott was pretty much invented by James Doohan. Down to the accent. Who else can copy that?

Pegg's wife is apparently native born Scottish and she has been working with him to get the voice down pat. I have faith he will do the role justice. If you've ever seen him in "Shaun of the Dead" or "Hot Fuzz" then you know he has flexibility as an actor and can definitely change his voice to suit the role. Little thing I never knew, he was in "Band of Brothers"!

While he'll never be James Doohan, I am glad he got the role and not an unknown. I literally cried the day Doohan died and the day his ashes were sent into space. I met him when I was younger and he was just the nicest man. So polite and proud of his work in Star Trek.

Wyrminarrd

08-18-2008, 02:44 AM

I´m optimistic about this movie, I really think it has a chance of being good.

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-18-2008, 04:18 AM

Pegg's wife is apparently native born Scottish and she has been working with him to get the voice down pat. I have faith he will do the role justice. If you've ever seen him in "Shaun of the Dead" or "Hot Fuzz" then you know he has flexibility as an actor and can definitely change his voice to suit the role. Little thing I never knew, he was in "Band of Brothers"!

While he'll never be James Doohan, I am glad he got the role and not an unknown. I literally cried the day Doohan died and the day his ashes were sent into space. I met him when I was younger and he was just the nicest man. So polite and proud of his work in Star Trek.

wow! That is quite cool. i was unaware. thx for the info. Good post!

Bitgolem

08-18-2008, 05:04 AM

I suspect it will suck very much... From what I know of the actors involved, I doubt very much if they'll be able to capture the spirit of the characters. But, that's what I said about Wolverine, too...

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-19-2008, 12:00 PM

Zyrious

08-19-2008, 12:34 PM

Im a life long fan, but I have my doubts about this "prequal". Im having trouble seeing any original characters played by, well, any one else.

I was under the impression it wasnt a prequel at all. I thought the synopsis was that it takes place after Nemesis, and that Spock is traveling back in time to save Kirk from a romulan assassin or some such.

Malsonic

08-19-2008, 12:47 PM

Prequel + Enterprise has already been ruined once. (See the series Enterprise)

Hopefully a little more thought will be put into the movie than they did the prequel series. If they use the same writers, you can pretty much rest assured it will turn out terrible. If they use any of the writers from any of the other series, it should turn out all right. If they're using a new team of writers, it will be anybody's guess.:confused:

Crossing my fingers that the execs decide to go with the seasoned writers from TNG. :p

Alma_Bane

08-19-2008, 01:10 PM

I love it when they make a new sci fi to watch, BUT I too have reservations about the new movie. OMG just look at Chris Pine's eyebrows. He will never I SAY NEVER fill the boots of Bill Shatner. Pine's voice it won't do the Kirk thing for me at ALL!

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-19-2008, 01:25 PM

I was under the impression it wasnt a prequel at all. I thought the synopsis was that it takes place after Nemesis, and that Spock is traveling back in time to save Kirk from a romulan assassin or some such.

The original plot was supposed to be before the TOS, when Kirk was in Star Fleet Academy and how he , spock , and all them met.

Now the "reported" plot involves time travel, alt timelines, Borg, ext.....

So, who knows :)

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-19-2008, 01:26 PM

Alma_Bane

08-19-2008, 01:29 PM

ToThjis is not the first time TOS characters have been played by other actors...
Has anyone seen the New Voyages? I really loved the Zulu gone tribal one. Takai is awesomely handsome with that long hair wild look.

Alma_Bane

08-19-2008, 01:36 PM

I hope it is good and I think Abrams has what it takes to make it good if he respects the source material. He has done some great stuff before and this movie has a lot of potential. The way I see it is that this is like the new Terminator movie, it will either reinvigorate the franchise or it will be the final nail in the coffin. But Terminator is a bad analogy since that has a great TV show going on now.

I Just a quick twist on this topic, since you mentioned it...Sara Conner Chronicles : IS there going to be any new ones?

Jeaneous

08-19-2008, 04:18 PM

Has to make about 200 million domestic or this becomes a one and done.:(

WinterPark1701

08-19-2008, 06:11 PM

I think TOS and TNG are pretty much played out at this point. There is so much more they could do for a story line for a movie. DS9 would be great, Enterprise could really use a movie after what happend to the TV show, there are how many diffrent books.

Talamakara

08-19-2008, 06:17 PM

I Just a quick twist on this topic, since you mentioned it...Sara Conner Chronicles : IS there going to be any new ones?

Show sucks why is it being mention in a star trek forums?

Alma_Bane

08-19-2008, 06:56 PM

Show sucks why is it being mention in a star trek forums?

Maybe II could of PM'd the original message that mentioned Terminatror. He mentioned it like it was ongoing . But PARDON ME didn't mean to call on the forum police or be sacrilegious. So why did you quote me out of the thread? The bumper sticker post? That was in the fee discussion thread?

OIC (webspeak an alien form of slow aural and occular death) I am quoted on your avatar. I am honored.

Zombie

08-19-2008, 08:30 PM

A lot of all this was said when people found out they were going to do a new star trek show with none of the original cast and a Klingon on the bridge.
Looking at it with a fresh set of eyes could work out very well.

People seem worried about them using comedy actors and a pretty boy playing Kirk but the show always had a sense of humor to it and Shatner didn’t always look like he does now.

I’m pretty surprised no one has brought up that battlestar galactic has done so well with its relaunch.

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-19-2008, 08:44 PM

Alma_Bane

08-19-2008, 08:58 PM

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

08-20-2008, 12:42 PM

Yep, I see your point. I remember wondering about TNG, then loving it after watching it.

I hated TNG in season 1 because every time I watched, I remembered a part from TOS that was being copied. In Season 2 they got a bit more original and I started liking it more. Sadly, I held out hope for Voyager and Enterpoop, and both sucked all the way through....The movie could go either way.

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

04-20-2009, 06:16 PM

After seeing the previews I cant see anything trekish about the new movie. It may bring in new fans, but its gonna suck.

WinterPark1701

04-20-2009, 07:21 PM

I'm going to say this film will rock until I have any reason to belive otherwise. If it sucks then I will make that statement after I've seen it, but I don't think shooting it down before its even come out is fair. You go in with the mind that its crap then you will hate it no matter what the true quality it.

Man, you people around her wine an aweful lot.

Admiral Dr. Leonard McCoy

04-20-2009, 08:57 PM

your no fun! Th epoint of a forum is to discuss. Your method may be smart but its not a discussion :D

k.mpok

04-20-2009, 09:52 PM

In short

It will be a pretty movie but it will be death to Star trek as we know it.

-Brett-

04-20-2009, 10:43 PM

your no fun! Th epoint of a forum is to discuss. Your method may be smart but its not a discussion :D

I'm pretty sure this forum will still be here after the movie is released. We all can discuss it then.

We'll even have the benefit of knowing what we're talking about instead of relying on wild-assed assumptions.

cecipac01

05-14-2009, 11:50 AM

Im a life long fan, but I have my doubts about this "prequal". Im having trouble seeing any original characters played by, well, any one else.

I agree with you. I'm sorry but it seems the cast were hired from a top models agency. I'm not confident about them. I really prefer the old cast. ;)