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I was wondering if and only if it would be possible to pilot other races ships would that be a good thing?
What say you, and why if ye please... :)
jayman
07-29-2008, 05:27 PM
Depends, I don't think it'd be a good idea for a federation captain to fly around in a romulan warbird on a full time basis, but in the right situation maybe you'd end up boarding one and taking control of it during some battle or something. *shrug*
JSM3050
07-29-2008, 05:32 PM
I'd like to see something like in EVE Online where you have a pool of ships to choose from, including ones that you've captured during battle. Sure, being able to claim you've sent an armada of Klingon ships to their fiery explosions is great. It's even better saying you've got said armada's command cruiser parked in Stardock.
InSin
07-29-2008, 05:38 PM
I think it should be possible to capture vessels from other races. As I also hope there is (and think there will be) a customization system. Maybe you could strip components out of them for other vessels. For example the cloaking device out of that poor poor Warbird you found limping home... you know the one that didn't make it (thanks to your phaser fire and boarding parties). Also I would suggest being able to keep the vessels for espionage missions or for the good old fashion sneaky sneaky fun of it. Naturally getting supplies for the ship would be difficult... (call thy favorite ferangie and get out thy pocket book). In some instances maybe even impossible to get the equipment or at least have to steal it from another comparable vessel. This would atleast make it much less practical to be a Fed captain with a Romulan Warbird
JoeCold
07-29-2008, 05:42 PM
Kirk could never have saved the whales if Sulu couldn't fly a Bird of Prey. ;)
Aye the highest respect for Sulu and that B'rel! :)
TheMasterpiece
07-29-2008, 05:44 PM
Id really go for realism here and say u can have your alignments ships. Now if you steal one for a particular mission thatd be fine but it should only be for that mission or a short time
MillerEP
07-29-2008, 05:45 PM
Well I guess it depends on the ship and how we retrieve them. In the movies and in the TV series' there was occasions where the mission called for you to fly around or be temp captian of an enemy ship.
If we obtain the bigger and better ships by trading in prestige points like Perpetual was going to do, than I don't think that Federation should have access to ships that are given to you by the Klingon High Command or vice versa. But if's like "I have the money, lets go to Crazy Eddie's Used Shiplot, and buy one, than I don't see why not, although it should have very distinct differences in each and every ship type. Of course if it's an old 24th century design, and an outdated ship (seeing how this is 25th century right?) than nobody will mind.
Glavius
07-29-2008, 06:26 PM
Honestly I think we're all forgetting groups like the Orion Pirate Syndicate - They can fly any ships they can get there hands on... I'd make it so that you start with the ability to fly your race/affiliations class of ship and then make it POSSIBLE to learn to fly other races ships. However, I don't believe it should be a jump in and go thing.
Neogunmetal
09-10-2008, 10:36 AM
If you will be allowed to capture other ship...that goes back to will you be able to store other vessels at your space dock or will you be restricted to only one ship at a time with no way to change from style to style as needed for the missions?!?!?!?
Kinjiru
09-10-2008, 11:03 AM
Honestly I think we're all forgetting groups like the Orion Pirate Syndicate - They can fly any ships they can get there hands on... I'd make it so that you start with the ability to fly your race/affiliations class of ship and then make it POSSIBLE to learn to fly other races ships. However, I don't believe it should be a jump in and go thing.
The only flaw to that logic is that at game launch, players can only be in either Starfleet or the Klngon Empire. Both would have fairly strict guidelines about it. Also remember how important it was to get the communications working on the Bounty, because they didn't want to be mistaken for Klingons. Kirk was nervous for a reason.
And... If Starfleet issues you a ship, they might take a dim view to you choosing to fly around in something else.
So anyway, maybe under extreme mission specific circumstances, but I don't see it happening on a daily basis.
Trekkie
09-10-2008, 07:07 PM
Except for in very extreme circumstances, I do not think piloting ships meant for other races is a good idea and I think overall it would be detrimental to the game.
gavinmasters
09-10-2008, 07:31 PM
Except for in very extreme circumstances, I do not think piloting ships meant for other races is a good idea and I think overall it would be detrimental to the game.
But what about us Trill who have a history of being multiple races? ;)
I understand that at the start it would seem "strange" to be able to fly a foreign ship but come to think 'o it i would really like to pilot or even own a BoP someday, as a non Klingon that is...
qoona
03-19-2009, 12:31 AM
THere was something writen in FAQ iirc, that you cant pilot other frction on full time basis, but they will be available as mission ship, for some misions
THORN74
03-19-2009, 05:48 AM
the devs already answered this. You will only be able to fly ur own faction ships. there may, however, be missions where u can fly a cross faction ship but u will not keep that ship. so if u choose fed ur stuck flying fed ships. If u want to fly lots of different race ships then be a klingon, as we know there are both orion and klingon ships in the game so far.
Thank you both must have missed that information! :)
PattonJ007
03-19-2009, 07:17 AM
Cryptic stated in an older interview that a Starfleet or Klingon captain will not be able to pilot or command a ship from another faction.
Edit: ...yea what Thorn said
BreachAndClear
03-19-2009, 08:15 AM
Yes, as others have said, you will not be able to keep the ship, but may get to fly it as part of a mission. Similarly, although this was never explicitly stated to my knowledge, perhaps players will be able to temporarily fly ships like the Constitution, NX, 22nd century "Bird of Prey" (I don't think it was ever named) or D7 class as part of time travel content. But again, they would be unable to keep the ship.
TruthSeer
03-19-2009, 08:18 AM
But what about us Trill who have a history of being multiple races? ;)
I thought Trill was the race?
Counselor_Zexx
03-19-2009, 08:21 AM
Kirk could never have saved the whales if Sulu couldn't fly a Bird of Prey. ;)
Hah! Sulu looked FAAAAAAAAHBULOUS doing it too!
Marytha
03-19-2009, 08:33 AM
Okay, so .... the Federation seems easy, you fly Federation ships. If you're Klingon, can you only fly Klingon ships?, Can you fly the Orion, and or hoping hoping, Gorn ships? If you're Orion, can you fly Klingon or or Gorn or only Orion, since they are all in your faction?
Vorador
03-19-2009, 09:27 AM
I want to fly a captured D'deridex :D
OddjobXL
03-19-2009, 10:26 AM
My vote is that STO needs to preserve the look and feel of the license. Players should be restricted to flying faction appropriate vessels (at least outside of a mission where boarding and using an NPC ship might be part of it). If I really want to fly Klingon or, one day perhaps, Romulan ships then I should make an alt.
BlueMedic
03-19-2009, 12:44 PM
i agree i think that outside a mission it would not flow with the star trek way.
Corehaven22
03-19-2009, 12:55 PM
I sort of agree with Cryptic's stance on only being able to permanently command ships directly tied to your faction. And yes, as previous posts have already mentioned, there are missions where you may commandeer
another type of ship but not keep it.
I was thinking though.... The Ferengi have joined the Federation for instance. Also the Gorn have joined the Klingons. You'll notice that Fed ships for instance all seem to have a common color scheme and a common kind of design flowing through all their ships.
So perhaps we could command some of the Ferengi type vessels that have been repainted, and refited to serve the federation? They would look primarily Federation, yet still have some recognizable design to the originals that were flying around before hand.
Maybe someone could help me out here, but remember the Ferengi ships we saw often in ST Next Gen shows that had a brown color tone and was sort of shaped like an anchor? Im not sure what they were called. Anyways, imagine that ship, with many upgrades, with a now grey / blue sort of color scheme that looks very much Federation now but has Ferengi roots. Just thought it might be an interesting idea.
Has that been confirmed about the Ferengi?!
Corehaven22
04-11-2009, 03:51 PM
Has that been confirmed about the Ferengi?!
That they have joined the Federation? I believe so.
As far as the rest of my post goes....it was just an idea I had from awhile back.
Ah i see thank you, too bad actually i would have rather seen 'em as independant or working for profit alone...
OokieSpookie
05-11-2009, 03:29 PM
I say no unless somehow captured (of course I can make two characters of different factions and arrange for that with two accounts).
I think at least for quite a while it should stay locked to ships of your faction.
overlordthor
05-11-2009, 04:20 PM
I'm not hoping for captured ships being usable except in specific missions, where you have to pretend to be the enemy, on a small scale.
I'd like to see a few different member races of the federation contributing there own style of vessels, ferengi styled ships, maybe some old Vulcan style ships... and maybe andorian style... not to many of them, 75% are core federation style ships, 25% assorted member races(maybe fewer), but generally not the largest and most powerful vessels.
As for Klingon, the same, they've acquired Gorn and Orion style vessels, and maybe through invasion acquired lots of other small empires in their domain.
The ships should generally all be rearmed with there style weapons and devices(federation ships, phasers, and Klingons get disruptor, etc...