View Full Version : What Captains the Best?
cptsmith1
07-28-2008, 07:20 AM
Kirk-
Sisko-
Janeway-
Picard-
Archer-
I myself am a Janeway fan.:)
Cyjack
07-28-2008, 07:26 AM
Kirk would rip the still beating heart out of the chest of any of the others and show it to them, while simultaneously making out with two green Orion slave girls, while also happening to be violating the prime directive.
So, you know. Him.
mattlow
07-28-2008, 07:32 AM
Kirk wins hands down. All the other captains would be talking over their options, and what the motivations of the other captains were, and how they should try to understand them. While Kirk would kill Archer with his coolness, slap Sisko like down like a *****, make Picard get him some gay tea, and sleep with Janeway before killing them all, with that smug smile on his face.
samuraiwahoo
07-28-2008, 07:34 AM
I am pretty sure Kirk could have taken on the Borg with a shuttle and a potato gun.
yardbird
07-28-2008, 07:38 AM
Sheesh.
Let's see.... dynamic, maverick, vigorous mo-fo with a sense of humour, or one of 4 librarians?
I'll go with Kirk.
lrdnova
07-28-2008, 07:38 AM
Well this is an incredibly difficult question to answer.
When we look at Captain Archer we see a man who truely wants to get out and explore everything for the first time. Almost like a young child first learning how to crawl. Archer and his crew stop to investigate a multitude of spacial phenominon that no one has seen before all with out the protection of Starfleet, the Guidance of a Prime Directive, and the Experience of ships Captains before him, Captain Archer truely does boldly go where no one has gone before.
leading on to Captain Kirk, we see a man that continues to explore the outreaches of known space, forging the surrounding universe to a perspective that he alone embodies, having made many friends and a multitude of enemies Captain Kirk is truely among one of the most daring and bravest men to continue to forge into the great unknown.
Captain Picard... A man of honor, Integrity, dedication to duty, and above all else an explorer of the past, the present and the future. As earths Ambassador of Humanity. We see how one mans choice can have overwhelming consequences and how such dedication to the standards that the Prime Directive has created for us all that one man can embodie those very traits however it be that it must be a burden as well as a gift that he must live alone with.
Captain Sisko... A man torn between two worlds, two duties and clearly forging a path apart from any other Captain Sisko is as much of a Mystery as he is an open book. His choices from the side of his duty to Starfleet and the Federation are controversial. His duty as the Emissary of a peoples ravaged by War, Famine, Slavery are undeniable. But above all else his love for his family is un-matched.
Captain Janeway having only been a Captain for a short time and was suddenly faced with a unimaginable circumstance that puts her at the fore front of human exploration. A form of exploration that can only be shared by one other Captain. Having no support from Starfleet, having No contact with the Federation and trying beyond all else to remain loyal to her morals, her beliefs, and to the Prime Directive Captain Janeway must make one of the hardest journeys that any captain has had to make in a long time.
To that end for me it is very difficult to select anyone of these Legendary Captains as all of them are uniquely gifted with the journeys that they have embarked on. Now I can dig down into each ones individual personality traits and probably come to a conclusion as to which one was a better Captain based on my own personel standards however in order to be true to myself I would have to ask that if I where put in there varieing situations would I have done any differently knowing what I know about each of the other captains?
Who knows.....
boothby
07-28-2008, 08:00 AM
Janeway was the best Captain!
Cyjack
07-28-2008, 08:04 AM
I am pretty sure Kirk could have taken on the Borg with a shuttle and a potato gun.
You're giving him the potato gun just to give the Borg a sporting chance, right? Because I think he's much more dangerous with just his bare hands.
Excalion
07-28-2008, 08:25 AM
Sisko all the way that guy could kick some serious butt :p
Judgeman2021
07-28-2008, 08:40 AM
Picard.
I mean come on, he's Patric Stewart.
danubus
07-28-2008, 08:51 AM
Picard-
The best captain ever. Nuff said!
Word2BigBird
07-28-2008, 08:54 AM
Janeway was the best Captain!
10 characters
ShiXin
07-28-2008, 09:01 AM
Picard ran a tight ship, no doubt about it. But I did find myself admiring Janeway for never losing her cool. Archer was brash in the way that the first captains had to be, and I never much cared for DS9, but
Captain Kirk had a swagger that was unmatched in all of the ST universe. The man had brass balls the size of Jupiter. He carried a big starship and he wasn't afraid to use it.
Indubitably the best Star Trek captain to date.
Warp_Speed
07-28-2008, 09:04 AM
Picard. Wasnt the most mobile, but the smartest and coolest under pressure!
Roberto
07-28-2008, 09:07 AM
Picard was the best all around captain to me. He was great at everything and bad at nothing. You also got a lot of years out of him to learn about his character. By far, to me, he was the best fleshed out character.
However, in saying that, if you want some good old fashion swashbuckling you have to go with Kirk. I'm surprised we hadn't seen him bolt a rope to the side of the Enterprise so he could swing over to an enemy vessel with a phaser clinched betwixt his teeth.
Sisko was the most... human of the Captains to me. He seemed so real in a lot of ways (perhaps because of the family issues) and I found him endearing. I always feel like he gets a bad hand in these debates.
Janeway... geez. I have always felt so indifferent to her I can't really give a opinion. I think the writers kinda butchered her character. They never knew what to make her personality like. She seemed so scatty to me.
Necros
07-28-2008, 09:08 AM
Well this is an incredibly difficult question to answer.
...
Who knows.....
Very well said. It is hard for me to choose one captain too but I'll go with Captain Benjamin Lafayette Sisko. :cool: I think he was the most human of them all and had some really great stories during the seven seasons of DS9. :cool:
Roberto
07-28-2008, 09:17 AM
Very well said. It is hard for me to choose one captain too but I'll go with Captain Benjamin Lafayette Sisko. :cool: I think he was the most human of them all and had some really great stories during the seven seasons of DS9. :cool:
Thats how I feel too -- (as shown in my post above yours) that I feel he was the most human too. He felt like someone you might know irl and respected.
rihannsu
07-28-2008, 09:20 AM
Well I enjoy Sisko the most because he seemed to be the most "human" of them all. Janeway comes a close second because she had her dark moments.
Elanel
07-28-2008, 09:22 AM
Sisko for me as well. :)
guzmaan
07-28-2008, 09:22 AM
samuraiwahoo wrote:
"I am pretty sure Kirk could have taken on the Borg with a shuttle and a potato gun."
Nah, he would convince the Borg to self-destruct... after a little romance with the Borg Queen, of course :)
Necros
07-28-2008, 09:34 AM
Well I enjoy Sisko the most because he seemed to be the most "human" of them all. Janeway comes a close second because she had her dark moments.
Sisko has his share of dark moments too. :cool:
guzmaan
07-28-2008, 09:34 AM
For me, Picard still is the most convincing captain of a starship with a large crew size.
While Kirk was a charismatic hero figure, he never was very credible as a leadership figure of any larger orgainzation.
But compared to the above two, the other capains seem to be average at best.
cpt-picard1993
07-28-2008, 09:35 AM
cpt picard is da best since no matter the situation he always comes through (movie VII picard dosent die unlike kirk :D
sourcemaster4
07-28-2008, 09:40 AM
Captain Jean-Luc Picard.
Commanded two of the most advanced flagships in Federation history, both being Enterprises. Unless you consider the pre-refit and post refit Enterprises from Kirk's era, he is the only captain to command 2 successive Enterprises.
Assimilated by the Borg to be the liaison to humanity during it's assimilation, rescued from and used to halt their first attempt. Lives for 6 years bearing the trauma of assimilation, and defies Starfleet orders to single-handedly halt the second Borg attempt to conquer the planet (which involved time travel, extra-vehicular space combat, the beginning of warp travel, and first contact with the Vulcans). While not the only captain to be assimilated, Picard is clearly the most qualified and proven expert on the Borg and has saved humanity from certain assimilation twice.
Of course, has been on the front lines of most of the Federation's conflicts and discoveries during the period in time which was most detailed in the television series (The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager all took place during Picard's lifetime). Because of his prominence, he has been captured by the Romulans and the Cardassians, two of the Federations most ruthless opponents.
Picard, Captian Jean-Luc.
Necros
07-28-2008, 09:40 AM
For me, Picard still is the most convincing captain of a starship with a large crew size.
I agree with this.
But compared to the above two, the other capains seem to be average at best.
But absolutely disagree with this. I think they were all very different, like their shows and great for different reasons.
Dutchpunk
07-28-2008, 10:41 AM
I'd have to say Janeway.
Tetsuo
07-28-2008, 10:58 AM
Kirk was an awesome dude, but I think I would feel safer on a ship with Picard as captain.
ArchDuke
07-28-2008, 11:06 AM
For me, it's Picard.
His character was always the most convincing of all the captains for me. I cut my Trekkie teeth on TNG in junior high, and nearly 15 years later I'm still re-watching TNG and finding new ways and reasons to love that show and its characters even more.
Kayden
07-28-2008, 11:07 AM
IMO I have to say Archer. I know many wont agree with me but Scott Bakula played him with excitement but he wasn't retarded about it or inconsistent with his performance. Archer was always balanced and when they got older and wiser when the seasons progressed he played him with more confidence. Lets face it you wouldn't always be 100% confident in your decisions being the first captain out there either.
Ahkileez
07-28-2008, 11:23 AM
Sisko is the best. Nuff said :)
Bretticus
07-28-2008, 11:23 AM
I have to have Picard at the top of my list, but thats only because I became a big trekkie due to TNG, and also Patrick Stewart was born about 10miles away from where I grew up.
Then its of course Kirk, then Sisko, then Archer then Janeway. I mentioned on another Thread, I really couldnt warm to Janeway, she always seemed to be about to burst into tears when chatting with crew members, I feel Chakotay had a stronger presence on Voyager than Janeway, he certainly had more story character depth.
Rainmaker
07-28-2008, 11:25 AM
I can't say which was the best, but my 12" resin figure of Picard says he's my favorite!
koric
07-28-2008, 11:31 AM
Kirk-
Sisko-
Janeway-
Picard-
Archer-
I myself am a Janeway fan.:)
Hacks and pretenders!
The real choices are Matt Decker and Ron Tracy
UfcFan78
07-28-2008, 11:43 AM
As each series is launched the more "PC" the captains get. I hate that crap.
Kirk and Picard......"Tag Team Champions of the Universe", LOL.
Kirk is #1 and Picard is close #2.
Kirk is like Picard and Riker rolled into one. Great tactics, man-*****, hated promotions. The others are bush league compared to Kirk and Picard, at best.
heldragon
07-28-2008, 11:45 AM
Picard and Janeway for me. The others seem more like wanne-be action heroes than convincing captains. It helps that both actors have experience from the theatre. And you just gotta love Patrick Stewart.
/Madeleine
Noonien
07-28-2008, 12:05 PM
Kirk. He was saving the universe before any of the other's knew how to crack the nasal cavity of any given alien, anywhere, anytime. Captain Archer being an exception of course, but he was more an explorer than anything else, he comes in 3d after Picard.
Recollection
07-28-2008, 12:06 PM
Picard all the way
he's been assimilated in the past, so partial borg;)
he's been in the past (if only we could do the same)
he knows how to get his ship destroyed in the best posible way with landing it on planets:D
AND NOT GET HIS CREW WHIPED OUT:eek::eek:
TNG been the best all along
FEA_Lt_Timothy_Corey_Dalton
07-28-2008, 12:11 PM
Kirk as my batman- loving friend said ^^
cptsmith1
07-28-2008, 12:18 PM
wasnt expecting all of these results. looks like picards in the lead!
starbuck1771
07-28-2008, 12:37 PM
Sisko is my pick. He ran a tight ship/station while trying to raise a son. None of the others can say that.
JSM3050
07-28-2008, 12:48 PM
M'k'n'zy of Calhoun (New Frontier novels).
cptsmith1
07-28-2008, 12:51 PM
never heard of him..or her..or whatever. well this is about the 5 from the series.
JSM3050
07-28-2008, 12:54 PM
If we have to stick to the TV series, then Sisko.
bitgolem
07-28-2008, 12:55 PM
For me, Picard still is the most convincing captain of a starship with a large crew size.
While Kirk was a charismatic hero figure, he never was very credible as a leadership figure of any larger orgainzation.
But compared to the above two, the other capains seem to be average at best.
Yeah, in retrospect, Kirk was the kind of officer who noone would want to lose as first officer, but Picard was the better Captain. Each, though, was the iconic captain of their era.
Archer was just tooooo PC, I can't look at Sisko without thinking of Hawk, and Janeway only took a ship command because she needed it to make admiral. Hobnobing with the policy makers and bean counters is where she belongs.
ChrisJones
07-28-2008, 01:27 PM
Agreed - Picard would think his way out of a situation - weapons if needed.
Although Scotty once said,
'The best diplomat I know is a fully actviated phaser bank.'
lol
Vatenkeist
07-28-2008, 01:31 PM
There´s not much besides Ben Sisko
worst captain:janeway
Cyjack
07-28-2008, 01:38 PM
Agreed - Picard would think his way out of a situation - weapons if needed.
Although Scotty once said,
'The best diplomat I know is a fully actviated phaser bank.'
While Picard was busy "thinking" his way out of a situation, probably while giving some wishy washy condescending speech about it....KIrk would just kill him, take the ship, and make out with Troi. Maybe with Data too...the man's not picky.
He would be shrieking like a sweaty tooth madman the entire time.
If my backside was in the fire though, I want Kirk out there, burning, pillaging, tossing the prime directive out the window...to do what he had to do. What he always does. Turning death into a fighting chance to live.
DrAmyWeaver
07-28-2008, 01:42 PM
Mal Reynolds.
Compared to any Fed stiff-shiirt, he's the most fun to be around.
Plus it's Nathan Fillion. Squee etc.
starbuck1771
07-28-2008, 05:24 PM
Mal Reynolds.
Compared to any Fed stiff-shiirt, he's the most fun to be around.
Plus it's Nathan Fillion. Squee etc.
yep firefly rocks! I see I am not the only Kaylee fan here. :D
jasonlotito@gmail.com
07-28-2008, 05:55 PM
Sisko, hands down.
cptsmith1
07-28-2008, 06:22 PM
sisko is pretty cool but janeway seriously pwns all!
Volomon
07-28-2008, 06:34 PM
Patrick Steward of course not just because of his acting power, but because he was truly the Next Generation that was never lived up to again. He's the Captain with the most movies the most episodes of being starred or featured in, he's just got talent. Besides that the "Next Generation" series was the only one where Gene Roddenbery was constantly giving advice on. I mean come on the first one with Kirk is a attempt at making a Buck Rogers competition. Kirk is a Buck Roger wannabe.
samuraiwahoo
07-28-2008, 06:36 PM
You're giving him the potato gun just to give the Borg a sporting chance, right? Because I think he's much more dangerous with just his bare hands.
You are right. Let's give the Borg.... hmm.... Chuck Norris also. Yes, this would make it fair
Fischfaust
07-28-2008, 06:49 PM
Kirk-
Sisko-
Janeway-
Picard-
Archer-
I myself am a Janeway fan.:)
Christopher Pike. Pre Original Series had the coolest uniforms!
itiffanyturner
07-28-2008, 07:34 PM
I would have to say picard.
How many officers did he lose compared to kirk.
Kirk always rushed in to places where angels feared to tread. And red shirts died because of it.
And i'm black so i know to stay the h*** out of a red shirt.
jla1987
07-28-2008, 07:39 PM
Kirk is my absolute favorite. I like the others (except for Sisko...I'm no DS9 fan), but none of them compare to Kirk.
CherriBerri
07-28-2008, 07:46 PM
Janeway and Archer. :D
Janeway is dumped in the middle of no where and survives... while kicking the butts of the borg more than enough times.
Archer because he is going into space not knowing whats out there!!!
milesobrien
07-28-2008, 08:05 PM
Picard if by land
Sisko if by sea
Kirk if by air
TheMasterpiece
07-28-2008, 08:36 PM
Janeway was the worst. She made one horrible decision after another, even Tuvok went against her cause she was so bad. In 7 years I dont think she made one sound decision.
That leads us to Picard who is clearly the best. By far!!!! Kirk is good but picard rules the day
spartan547
07-28-2008, 11:05 PM
Captain Jean-Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise.
capt.james.nova
07-28-2008, 11:15 PM
Kirk-
Sisko-
Janeway-
Picard-
Archer-
I myself am a Janeway fan.:)
have you lost your brains picard had to try and save kirk so really its
Picard-
Janeway-
Kirk-
Sisko-
Archer-
captaeh
07-29-2008, 01:02 AM
Sisko is my favorite captain b/c DS9 is my favorite series and I like his personality better .... but, if you're asking who I think would realistically be the best captain, I would have to say Picard. He knows when to use diplomacy and when to impose "peace through superior firepower" (The Arsenal of Freedom, TNG).
ChiefSFSec
07-29-2008, 03:12 AM
Picard is the best captain of all time. He is able to do it all. He is well known for his diplomacy but he also studies Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" and firmly believes that "He will triumph who knows when to fight and when not to fight." Because Picard knows this he is the best captain.
"I would rather outthink them than outfight them."
-Picard to command staff, on the Romulans
(TNG: "The Neutral Zone")
Picard being diplomatic:
"We have good reason to mistrust one another. Be we have even better reason to set those differences aside. Now of course, the question is who will take the initiative? Who will make the first gesture of trust? The answer is - I will."
-Picard to Tomalak
(TNG: "The Enemy")
Picard being aggressive:
"...let me make it clear. No Romulan vessel enters Federation territory unless it is prepared to do battle."
-Picard to Tomalak
(TNG: "The Enemy")
"Commander, I am singularly impressed by your concern for a life. Do not endanger anymore lives by crossing the Neutral Zone!"
-Picard to Tomalak
(TNG: "The Enemy")
For me it is no contest: Picard is the best Star Trek captain of all time.
Stormcrow
07-29-2008, 04:19 AM
Well this is an incredibly difficult question to answer.
When we look at Captain Archer we see a man who truely wants to get out and explore everything for the first time. Almost like a young child first learning how to crawl. Archer and his crew stop to investigate a multitude of spacial phenominon that no one has seen before all with out the protection of Starfleet, the Guidance of a Prime Directive, and the Experience of ships Captains before him, Captain Archer truely does boldly go where no one has gone before.
leading on to Captain Kirk, we see a man that continues to explore the outreaches of known space, forging the surrounding universe to a perspective that he alone embodies, having made many friends and a multitude of enemies Captain Kirk is truely among one of the most daring and bravest men to continue to forge into the great unknown.
Captain Picard... A man of honor, Integrity, dedication to duty, and above all else an explorer of the past, the present and the future. As earths Ambassador of Humanity. We see how one mans choice can have overwhelming consequences and how such dedication to the standards that the Prime Directive has created for us all that one man can embodie those very traits however it be that it must be a burden as well as a gift that he must live alone with.
Captain Sisko... A man torn between two worlds, two duties and clearly forging a path apart from any other Captain Sisko is as much of a Mystery as he is an open book. His choices from the side of his duty to Starfleet and the Federation are controversial. His duty as the Emissary of a peoples ravaged by War, Famine, Slavery are undeniable. But above all else his love for his family is un-matched.
Captain Janeway having only been a Captain for a short time and was suddenly faced with a unimaginable circumstance that puts her at the fore front of human exploration. A form of exploration that can only be shared by one other Captain. Having no support from Starfleet, having No contact with the Federation and trying beyond all else to remain loyal to her morals, her beliefs, and to the Prime Directive Captain Janeway must make one of the hardest journeys that any captain has had to make in a long time.
To that end for me it is very difficult to select anyone of these Legendary Captains as all of them are uniquely gifted with the journeys that they have embarked on. Now I can dig down into each ones individual personality traits and probably come to a conclusion as to which one was a better Captain based on my own personel standards however in order to be true to myself I would have to ask that if I where put in there varieing situations would I have done any differently knowing what I know about each of the other captains?
Who knows.....
Very well put...however...Being a swashbuckler and action junkie at heart I gotta go with James Tiberius Kirk. The man is just Badass.
Stormcrow
"No matter where you go...There you are."
-Buckaroo Banzai-
k.mpok
07-29-2008, 04:31 AM
OMG, security break out the phasers there is about to be trouble in here. hehe
Picard-
Kirk-
Janeway-
Archer-
Pike-
Sisko-
The_Borg
07-29-2008, 04:46 AM
Locutus of Borg. His voice rang out in song added to our own as our implants pierced him and made him superior. We greatly desire his return, to once again mingle his voice with our own.
Oh.
You will all be assimilated.
NCC1017spock
07-29-2008, 05:10 AM
Captian Archer is best, he has a puppy.
Intrepid
07-29-2008, 05:21 AM
Janeway
Picard
Archer
Kirk
Sisko
The_Sisko
07-29-2008, 05:47 AM
Benjamin Lafayette Sisko.
cptsmith1
07-29-2008, 05:53 AM
Looks like picard is still getting many votes
cathlin
07-29-2008, 05:59 AM
1 - Picard (it's the baldness... droool, plus the wit and diplomacy)
2 - Kirk (swashbuckling and womanizing)
3 - Janeway (kicks borg ass)
4 - Sisko (too confused half the time by the Prophets to function hehe)
5 - Archer (had a dog which was cute but I hated Enterprise)
Bretticus
07-29-2008, 06:05 AM
Captian Archer is best, he has a puppy.
Janeway has a pair of them.
:D:D:D:D
Meynolt
07-29-2008, 06:06 AM
I'd have to say Archer also. He didn't have any kind of backing either and he really went where no man had gone before. No Archer, no Federation.
captainspock4
07-29-2008, 06:10 AM
I would have to say Captain Picard because he had the best knowledge of when to be a diplomat and when to let the inner Kilngon out!
Cocciadimorto
07-29-2008, 06:18 AM
Picard or Kirk...
This is the hardest question I had to answer to in my life.
A special mention to Sisko, cause DS9 had the storyplot i loved most and Cpt. Benjamin Sisko is a character I really loved.
Archer is fine :)
That thing you keep calling captain referring to Janeway was my worst nightmare... the worst captain ever.
phalanges
07-29-2008, 06:22 AM
Sulu!
But since that wasn't an option, James T. Kirk.
Tetsuo
07-29-2008, 06:52 AM
Didn't Riker eventually become a captain too? What others were promoted to captain?
Commander
07-29-2008, 09:52 AM
Captain Archer.
-Founder of the Federation
-Went where nobody went before, without the backing of the starfleet
-Without him the earth had been destroyed many years before kirk was even born.
-Had no directive, but managed to do the right things (most times)
-Had a lot of "verbal" fights with the Vulcans, in a time where the vulcans were cocksure that the humans are unready for the space and that the humans should wait at least another hundred years.
-Had a puppy ;)
Susarian
07-29-2008, 10:02 AM
This is an easy question to answer. I like ALL the captains.
JasmineDragn
07-29-2008, 10:28 AM
Janeway fan here... but Archer is pulling a close second :)
stanld03
07-29-2008, 11:40 AM
Picard FTW!!!
InterArmaEnimSilentLeges
07-29-2008, 11:45 AM
Going to have to go with Sisko on this one. DS9 episode "In The Pale Moon Light'....to see a highly decorated Starfleet Officer resort to such dirty tricks...amazing. Nice to know that not all things in the future are "polished and shiny".
imaximus
07-29-2008, 11:49 AM
Q likes Picard... I like Q... Q never visited Kirk... to primitive.
Picard is obviously the best captain, otherwise Q wouldn't like him so much.
I like Picard.
MillerEP
07-29-2008, 11:59 AM
I would have to say given the choices given and the depending on the type of question you were asking it's two things:
If the question was "What Captains the Best?" as in "Who was just plain ole the best of the Captians?" Than I would have to go with Archer, for pretty much the same reasons as Commander listed, the guy was the first, and he had absolutely no guidance to go off of, no reference material he can ask such as "What have other captains done in this experence?" and had to make it up as he went along, sure he bumbled his way through and made some poor choices, but he was in so far over his head that humankind couldn't see the light of day, and managed to come out on top.
Now if the question was meant as in "Who made the best captian?" as far as Captianly duties are concerned, such as taking care of his people and running a smooth ship, Picard was tops.
BadXAsh
07-29-2008, 12:02 PM
The Captain that beats them all by far is Captain Merrill Stubing!!!!
MokTorak
07-29-2008, 12:04 PM
Everyone else had Federation territory backing them or DS9 had a huge station, Janeway had only her ship and her wits.
Rejs7
07-29-2008, 12:18 PM
Personally I like Sisko's command style, and the fact he has more grit in his little pinkie that Kirk has in all the episodes and films makes him my choice.
USSExcalibur
07-29-2008, 12:49 PM
M'k'n'zy of Calhoun (New Frontier novels).
i 2nd this one! i own the first 4 books, such a great character and crew! he was rough like kirk almost human like sisko and just awesome
cptsmith1
07-29-2008, 12:51 PM
sisko seems to be a close second :D
Cocciadimorto
07-29-2008, 01:26 PM
Going to have to go with Sisko on this one. DS9 episode "In The Pale Moon Light'....to see a highly decorated Starfleet Officer resort to such dirty tricks...amazing. Nice to know that not all things in the future are "polished and shiny".
I totally agree with you: "In the Pale Moonlight" is the best Star Trek episode ever seen in my life.
When it ended i got shivers for a long time. I still remeber it as the finest work among the Star Trek productions.
That's the reason I mentioned Sisko as the Captain of my heart (even if not the "best" as asked in the topic).
And the reason DS9 ranked first demoting TNG to a second place (tng has always been my prefered) is that sixth and seventh seasons have the most catching plot, the most thrilling situations, the most complicated interactions among the carachters. When DS9 ended I cried feeling like I was losing family... i felt abandoned.
So, again, probably the best captain is a fight between Kirk and Picard, but the one is like a member of my family is Sisko... no doubt.
"In the Pale Moonlight"... the best episode ever!
Ryche
07-29-2008, 01:29 PM
I'd have to go w/ Picard and Kirk in a very close second! :D
kbird200425
07-29-2008, 01:43 PM
Picard, Sisko and Janeway.
misterglass
07-29-2008, 02:13 PM
Sisko was my favorite, Picard in a close second.
Sisko - Intelligent, knows his enemy. Does not like a desk job and he led the armada against the Dominion! Gets the loyalty from his crew from proving he would die for any of them.
Also did a lot more with him, In the Pale Moonlight and his stuff with Jake.
Picard - Very intelligent and creative. Able to outthink his opponents. Also gets strong loyalty from crew because of his strict standards and how he values his crew more than anything.
Kirk - A different era, different kind of Captain. Very worthy by all accounts, just not my style of captaining :D
Janeway - Never really liked her. A competent captain, but does not get much loyalty beyond being captain. Lets personal issues interfere with her duty, and she took a desk job as Admiral :D
duck211
07-29-2008, 02:16 PM
Kirk would probably take down Picard in a blunt, fast battle, but if it was about strategy then Picard would own.
UfcFan78
07-29-2008, 02:23 PM
Kirk would probably take down Picard in a blunt, fast battle, but if it was about strategy then Picard would own.
Like Risk or Axis and Allies?
Kirk would kill him in Skeet Ball or Whack-A-Mole, though lol.
Cyjack
07-29-2008, 02:25 PM
Kirk would probably take down Picard in a blunt, fast battle, but if it was about strategy then Picard would own.
Not a chance. Kirk is a killer, just completely ruthless. Any ship on ship tactical engagement Kirk wins, and if he's wounded he's even more dangerous.
And, he will do whatever it takes. Picard is too bound by formal education, doctrine, and has clear lines he wont cross...it would be his undoing against someone like Kirk who is much more savage and cunning.
Kirk cheats.
kbird200425
07-29-2008, 02:27 PM
Picard would beat Kirk hands down. The "Picard Manevour" would a left him dazed, if had not been for Data the Enterprise would of been gone (during Picard attack on the Enterprise).
Roderrick
07-29-2008, 02:28 PM
Humm... it's an hard choice for me!
Picard and Kirk.
Picard because he is french!:D
That's not the only reason, he is a very tought men, and he defend the evolution of Humanity.
Picard is a little bit more tactical than Kirk, in my opinion...
Kirk show the Humanity in his good part. He is strong, and he is like a Dom Juan. Always when he discover new world, he need to show to the extraterrestrial the Human Love :D.
And he is strong.
So i will vote for Picard and Kirk.
UfcFan78
07-29-2008, 02:34 PM
Humm... it's an hard choice for me!
Picard and Kirk.
Picard because he is french!:D
That's not the only reason, he is a very tought men, and he defend the evolution of Humanity.
Picard is a little bit more tactical than Kirk, in my opinion...
Kirk show the Humanity in his good part. He is strong, and he is like a Dom Juan. Always when he discover new world, he need to show to the extraterrestrial the Human Love :D.
And he is strong.
So i will vote for Picard and Kirk.
Tag Team Champions of the Universe.
Cyjack
07-29-2008, 02:40 PM
Picard would beat Kirk hands down. The "Picard Manevour" would a left him dazed, if had not been for Data the Enterprise would of been gone (during Picard attack on the Enterprise).
Ha. You know that one thing, that one signature move he's got. Kirk did stuff like that every other episode, and in every movie.
Kirks tactical improvisation is legendary, and well documented. And he's completely ruthless. He blew up his ship just to kill like *11* Klingons. He is not bound by any rules.
Picard can't make a cup of tea without checking in with Starfleet over protocol.
UfcFan78
07-29-2008, 02:49 PM
Deep breath, guys......lol, Kirk and Picard both rule in their own way. It's like comparing a comander of the present day American aircraft carrier, Enterprise, to the one from WW II. Apples and oranges.......but both good. Great in fact.
UfcFan78
07-29-2008, 02:51 PM
Although.........Kirk does win in 9 out of 10 fist fights, arm wrestling matches and galactic booty calls.
kbird200425
07-29-2008, 02:52 PM
Ha. You know that one thing, that one signature move he's got. Kirk did stuff like that every other episode, and in every movie.
Kirks tactical improvisation is legendary, and well documented. And he's completely ruthless. He blew up his ship just to kill like *11* Klingons. He is not bound by any rules.
Picard can't make a cup of tea without checking in with Starfleet over protocol.
That one trick is all he needs as Data said there was no know countermeasure for this attack (at the time). Kirk spent way to much time in the bedroom, They should of named his ship U.S.S. Herpes. If you want to talk about brutal you might want to mention the fact that Picard rarely got laid, all that aggression released might just blow up Kirk ship without Picard firing a single shot. Also take note that Picard was willing to destroy his ship also.
lootra
07-29-2008, 02:57 PM
PICAAAAAAARD!
these are the voyages of the french guy, jean-luc, picard, his cointinuing mission, to baldly sip earl grey tea where no bald guy has sipped earl grey tea before
Kirk is a legend as are the others he "sailed" with!
ThompsonSmith13
07-29-2008, 04:57 PM
CAPTAIN JANEWAY IS THE MOST AWSOME CAPTAIN IN STARFLEET!! She overcame incredable odds, and she was the first (serries captain) femail captain!! THAT TOPS ALL OF THEM!! although, Picard is pretty awsome too. next is kirk, then on to sisko, then archar.
USS_Parallax
07-29-2008, 04:59 PM
I switch between Picard and Sisko regularly. Kirk is great too but before my time.
Sinclair
07-29-2008, 05:04 PM
Favorite captain is always a tough question. I like them all but for different reasons. I think more intriguing captain's questions are "what captain would you want to be with under "X" situation".
But back to the question - I'm a big Sisko fan. A tough, passionate, sly, moral yet imperfect fighter of a captain. Unlike Kirk, Sisko was never really written to be pompous just to be pompous. Sisko only did it when he was miffed and he was quite impressive at it. I also thought the writers did a good job of making Sisko more like a common guy compared to Picard's more "elite Captain of the flagship" type.
Admiral_Patrick
07-29-2008, 05:07 PM
My vote goes to Sisko. Watch "In the Pale Moonlight". a DS9 Season 6 episode if you havent already. Second would have to be Picard, then Kirk in the movies.
AnthonySabre
07-29-2008, 05:12 PM
For me it always comes down to Kirk and Sisko.
cptsmith1
07-30-2008, 05:02 AM
mhmm yes.. interesting.. still a pure JANEWAY fan.
Roberto
07-30-2008, 10:00 AM
Not a chance. Kirk is a killer, just completely ruthless. Any ship on ship tactical engagement Kirk wins, and if he's wounded he's even more dangerous.
And, he will do whatever it takes. Picard is too bound by formal education, doctrine, and has clear lines he wont cross...it would be his undoing against someone like Kirk who is much more savage and cunning.
Kirk cheats.
I agree with that 100% I guess you can call it cheating -- I'd prefer whatever it takes to win.
k.mpok
07-30-2008, 11:01 PM
Q likes Picard... I like Q... Q never visited Kirk... to primitive.
Picard is obviously the best captain, otherwise Q wouldn't like him so much.
I like Picard.
If you read the book Q Squared it appears that Kirk did meet Q, althou not quite himself at the time in ToS as well as in the movie "Where No Man Has Gone Before" .
Everyone else had Federation territory backing them or DS9 had a huge station, Janeway had only her ship and her wits.
That is only because she wasn't good enough to save her ship and prevent getting sent to the Delta Quadrant in the first place. Picard would have thought of a way out while utilizing a far superior crew were as Kirk would never have had it go that far in the first place.
Deep breath, guys......lol, Kirk and Picard both rule in their own way. It's like comparing a comander of the present day American aircraft carrier, Enterprise, to the one from WW II. Apples and oranges.......but both good. Great in fact.
hehe
The Original "Big E" USS Enterprise CV-6 FTW
One of only three American carriers commissioned prior to World War II to survive the war.
She participated in more major actions of the war against Japan than did any other US ship.
Enterprise earned 20 battle stars, the most for any U.S. warship in World War II.
She was the only ship outside of the Royal Navy to earn the highest award of the British Admiralty Pennant in the more than 400 years since its creation.
She supported my fellow brothers/sisters marines in the Battle of Iwo Jima by kept aircraft aloft continuously overhead for 174 hours.
Of the more than twenty major actions of the Pacific War, Enterprise engaged in all but two. Her planes and guns downed 911 enemy planes; her bombers sank 71 ships, and damaged or destroyed 192 more
You tell me which one is better.
Sisko is the best. Nuff said :)
Ya thats why he wasn't even a Captain to start out. He was a little ole Commander, wasn't even promoted to Captain until in 2371. Thats like trying to compare him to Commander Data rank wise and we all know who is better there.
hehe the Klingon in me just had to stirstuff up. :)
Wonko
07-30-2008, 11:07 PM
Data was a Lt. Commander, SIsko was already a senior officer to him, so the comparison is spurious.
k.mpok
07-30-2008, 11:42 PM
Data was a Lt. Commander, SIsko was already a senior officer to him, so the comparison is spurious.
Still, was more of a comparison to other CAPTAINS. Sisko was still a junior officer to the Picard/Kirk/ even Janeway. Kirk could outfight and Picard out talk Sisko anyday of the week.
writer_boi08
07-31-2008, 12:06 AM
Although I'm sure we're all biased to the series we entered the Star Trek Franchise with, I'm going to have to say Janeway as being the best captain.
I'm sure Picard and Kirk could survive the Delta Quadrant and make it back to earth too, but come on! The woman travelled back in time and helped to take down a main advantage the borg had. She also, in doing so, provided new ways to protect the Federation against the borg.
Not only that, but she had to deal with alien species that no one on earth or in the federation could even dream about. She was always fair in judgement, personal with her crew because she needed to be to keep things running smoothly, and she stuck to her guns through and through.
She kept up Starfleet principles even when the rest of the crew wanted to abandon them. And look where that got them...HOME. ALIVE! In several encounters, they could've abandoned their starfleet principles, like the episode where they get caught in the void. They could easily have attacked other ships for food and supplies, but she decided to share their very limited resources and form an alliance to try and get out of there and help others escape too.
I think, Janeway hands down, was one of the great captains.
(plus, when Janeway becomes an admiral, she outranks them anyway, lol.)
:D
psi-jeff
07-31-2008, 12:06 AM
Ha. You know that one thing, that one signature move he's got. Kirk did stuff like that every other episode, and in every movie.
Kirks tactical improvisation is legendary, and well documented. And he's completely ruthless. He blew up his ship just to kill like *11* Klingons. He is not bound by any rules.
Picard can't make a cup of tea without checking in with Starfleet over protocol.
Wiser words will never be spoken on this board or any other, my friend.
As a bud told me, there's a reason why the Borg and Q didn't show up in Kirk's time. They knew that he would lay the smack-down on them and not take their crap!
Kirk - a god amongst mortals.
Picard - glorified bureaucrat (with an addiction to tea)
Sisko - actually decent and competent.
Janeway - holy crap! Worst captain ever!
Archer - snooze......
Kirk would assimilate the Borg!
ddgrfn11
07-31-2008, 02:08 AM
Kirk would rip the still beating heart out of the chest of any of the others and show it to them, while simultaneously making out with two green Orion slave girls, while also happening to be violating the prime directive.
So, you know. Him.
My thoughts exactly....why choose between being a lover and a fighter.....Kirk was both.....he was THE MAN.
EngineerStephen
07-31-2008, 03:26 AM
Picard is good but Sisko is better
Samarton
07-31-2008, 04:08 AM
In my opinion Kirk and Picard are two sides of the same coin. They live in different times and their skills exactly match the challenges of their respective century. In Kirk's time the Federation still had many enemies in the Alpha Quadrant (most prominent are the Klingons of course) and Starfleet was not as strong as it is in Picard's time. The Enterprise needed a captain with a "hands-on" approach like Kirk. A diplomat like Picard would probably make the Federation look weak and vulnerable.
In Picard's time a captain like Kirk would only get in the way. The Federation is already settled in as a global player and the Klingons are one of their best allies. The Alpha Quadrant is ruled by gigantic empires (like the Romulans, the Klingons,...) and the Federation. In my opinion a war between these powers would probably accomplish nothing for any of them even if one would remain victorious. Therefore an adventurer and daredevil like Kirk is not really the best man for the frontline anymore, but could with his "Shoot first and ask questions later"- attitude trigger a desastrous war with another power of the Alpha Quadrant. A diplomat like Picard however is exactly the man the Federation would need in order to keep peace and stability in the Alpha Quadrant.
In my point of view Sisko is a simple soldier. He is a decent commander and tactician, maybe a little bit arrogant. On the whole no match for Kirk or Picard though.
I never really liked Janeway though. She always seemed like someone who was pretty noisy about her principles. But when the time comes to stand up for these principles she always seems to forget about them. Picard on the other hand always stands up for his principles, but is never so eager to announce them like Janeway is. Janeway is plain arrogant asking from her crew and every species they meet to care about the principles of the Federation while she always is the first one to forget about these principles if it makes things easier for her.
Archer... *Sigh*... ;)
GlassEye
08-01-2008, 11:00 AM
It is easier just to post this over.
James Tiberius Kirk.
Well considering the fact that when Generations" came on more detail was spent in the actually writing of the show, I can see how you can say Picard is the better captain. He did enforce the laws of the Federation but with "Generations" they went further in depth. That was in the earlier episodes until the show became the soap opera that it turned out to be. (I blame this on the inter-junction of females...sorry ladies and D.C. Fontana). (I feel that the new Doctor Who is not that good because of of the same reason...current modern female writing)
It was the writers behind Picard that brought out the proud speaking command voice, thus the character of Picard. He always seemed to me to be 'the annoyed' or "frustrated" Captain as if he was really not ineterested in his command at all. He seemed to me to put his feelings of his command more into the crew than the actual ship. I feel any actor could play the part of Jean-Luc Picard.
I think Capatin Kirk is the better of the two for a couple of reasons, His love of his ship. In several episodes he speaks about his love of the "Enterprise" almost to the point where the ship is a part of him. He is a more "robust" Captain. And where Jean Luc is concerned Picard would try and reason things out, Kirk would take more to throwing a few punches in. To me that is more of a ships captain. He would take no crap. As I have watched the show more now since it is available on DVD I have noticed the development of the new young Captain. These guys were new to space exploration and Kirk represented the overall theme, to boldly go where no man has gone before. Picard to me represented "to boldy go where no one has gone before" but in the legal sense of the federation. I think Shatner did a good job.
I feel that Sci-fi is more than just mapping out the legalities of the universe. Good science fiction involves a word that I feel has been lost over the years. "Adventure". Kirk represented that more to me than any other of the ship's captains.
Voyager Capatin, too cliche of the female human. Deep Space Nine Captain(s), too righteous and pleading, "Enterprise" series Captain, too darn soft in character portrayal. Maybe if it was played by someone else.
Laylyn
08-01-2008, 12:50 PM
Not a chance. Kirk is a killer, just completely ruthless. Any ship on ship tactical engagement Kirk wins, and if he's wounded he's even more dangerous.
And, he will do whatever it takes. Picard is too bound by formal education, doctrine, and has clear lines he wont cross...it would be his undoing against someone like Kirk who is much more savage and cunning.
Kirk cheats.
Agreed. If the earth is about to be destroyed by an unstoppable force and there is only one ship up trying to stop what's coming, out of all of them, you better hope it's Kirk.
madmandale
08-01-2008, 04:29 PM
Kirk. Period.
Xextreem
08-01-2008, 10:18 PM
Picard, but sucks in other movies. :cool:
spokechecker5000
08-02-2008, 05:09 PM
Archer saved the galaxy without any help from practically anyone else, no guidelines, no experience, no sheilds or other tech, just go see whats out there and by the way save earth and the 31st century while your out there. lol
Wonko
08-02-2008, 09:30 PM
I'm changing mine to Captain Solok of the T'Kumbra. Hell yeah for arrogant Vulcans!
sliths
08-02-2008, 09:34 PM
Kirk was the most charismatic, but the times wanted a swashbuckler. Of the later generations, I give it to Sisko, tough but fair. Honorable mention to Picard, who was simply way cool.
Golic
08-02-2008, 11:47 PM
Sisko.
Was the most interesting.
Disliked Dax though and that rubbed off slightly on him unfortunately
Whitefyre
08-03-2008, 02:17 AM
Kirk and Picard... I couldnt choose one over the other to be honest
NCC-2000
08-03-2008, 05:09 AM
Ultimately this boils down to Kirk Vs. Picard which has plagued the UFP ever since the Maxia Incident.
Laylyn
08-03-2008, 06:39 AM
I'll add in Kirk again. For proof why, here's what he did better than all the other Captains combined. He was Sisko's hero after all.
http://www.youtube.com/v/mOldq2QjhbY&hl=en&fs=1
ultimadesigns
08-07-2008, 05:27 PM
Such a tough question for me. I've thought about this a lot and don't know for sure -- I honestly think every captain was casted brilliantly.
If I had to rank right now:
Tie First: Sisko and Archer
Second: Janeway
Third: Picard
Fourth: Kirk
But it's still close for all of them, maybe with Kirk slightly more distant.
Masen
08-07-2008, 05:34 PM
I think each captain was better than the other in different ways. Like Sisko was the better commander and tactician. I'd prefer him behind the desk planning the battles of war. Where are Picard was the better explorer. He had a passion for learning about other cultures and species.
I only mention those two, cause honestly, those were the only two I ever really paid any attention to. :D
AaronH
08-07-2008, 06:38 PM
I find it interesting that as I was watching DS9 today I was just thinking of how Sisko was the most human off the captains, and then I stroll by the forums and see people saying the same thing.
I always liked Archer as well, but unfortunately his show seemed to have a pretty high ratio of bad episodes to good...
mezlabor
08-07-2008, 08:29 PM
Picard- he has such an aura of authority and integrity. Kirk had no integrity Sisko and Janeway compromised theirs but the universe bent to accomadate Picards unwavering integrity.
AaronH
08-08-2008, 12:45 AM
Picard- he has such an aura of authority and integrity. Kirk had no integrity Sisko and Janeway compromised theirs but the universe bent to accomadate Picards unwavering integrity.
Right, of course Sisko bending his morals won the dominion war, janeways bending her morals got her crew home, and Picards anwavering "morality" got how many people killed?
UnknownParadox
08-08-2008, 01:13 AM
It has to be Kirk and his crew for me. For making us fall in love will all things trekkie in the first place.
Not to mention Kirks natural ability to kick ass :)
cjdaweasel
08-08-2008, 01:29 AM
Picard is my vote. But since a captain is only as good as the crew under him I'd prefer to pick and choose the crew as well.
Picard as Captain
Spock
Data
Scotty/Geordi
Sulu
Tuvok
"The Doctor" (EMH)
7 of 9
I'd also keep Worf around so he could throw Wesley out of an airlock.
rens_van_leeuwen
08-08-2008, 03:40 AM
I don't really know. If I had to choose by person, I would say Picard, but if I had to choose by achievements, I would say Archer.
I think Picard is the best captain.
gboi21
08-08-2008, 06:16 AM
Picard is my vote. But since a captain is only as good as the crew under him I'd prefer to pick and choose the crew as well.
Picard as Captain
Spock
Data
Scotty/Geordi
Sulu
Tuvok
"The Doctor" (EMH)
7 of 9
I'd also keep Worf around so he could throw Wesley out of an airlock.
Now see, I like this answer. It's not just the Captain who matters, but the crew as well. Though, my ideal crew would have been a bit different.
Janeway (power, brains and feminine wiles)
Riker (that mustache...and he wouldn't hesitate to fight with Janeway if it was necessary)
Data (the processing power alone...)
Scotty (not afraid to lie to the Captain to make himself look better, and still got it all done)
The Doctor (humor without intent)
Kim (just...I don't know; has an actual personality maybe, as opposed to Spock?)
And as for Security...I'd just like to see Tuvok and Worf wrapped up in one big package. He did it with Neelix, so why not? We need to stage another transporter accident...
Wouldn't THAT be a fun combination?
jmw326
08-08-2008, 06:36 AM
Hello everyone. This is my first post here.
I have to rate then like this:
Kirk
Sisko
Archer
Janeway
Picard
bitgolem
08-08-2008, 06:41 AM
Q likes Picard... I like Q... Q never visited Kirk... to primitive.
Picard is obviously the best captain, otherwise Q wouldn't like him so much.
I like Picard.
I think Trelane was a Q
dgresko
08-10-2008, 02:11 PM
Kirk is The capt..to me and always will be.. but Personal cloice aside..
Each one was a product of the times. Kirk and his style was perfect for the 60s.. and was perfect in the Original cast movies.
Picard was more PC and calm..again, product of the more modern time in which the role was created.
Ditto for the rest.
r2d2ott
08-10-2008, 02:22 PM
I love Kirk. I mean, he's just a *******. I always considered him to be the John McClane, or Kyle Katarn/Han Solo of the Trek universe. However, in actual terms of being a captain, like negotiating treaties, restoring morale, and commanding his crew, Picard takes the cake. They're different, and can't necissarily be compared in the same arena. They're both awesome in their own way.
dgresko
08-10-2008, 02:23 PM
I agree really. Kirk is my idea of what i liked.. but each filled a role in his/her time.
Nebula1701
08-10-2008, 02:53 PM
Bah the Best Captain has to be Sisko
Geordi
08-10-2008, 02:56 PM
Best captain is Kirk then comes Piccard and I don't know for the rest.
I myself am a Janeway fan.:)[/QUOTE]
You're a good person :D. Janeway is my favorite too.
nubka
08-10-2008, 07:47 PM
O.K, here goes...
(in order)
Kirk
Kirk
Kirk
Kirk
Kirk
:D:D:D
BombardierBob
08-10-2008, 09:30 PM
Scotty
Kirk
Spock
McCoy
Sulu
Picard
Riker
Sisko
Pike
Janeway
unacomn
08-10-2008, 09:45 PM
Definetly Picard, the man had his heart ripped to shreds and lived. I'd like to see Kirk do that.
Chalen
08-10-2008, 10:03 PM
Kirk, Picard, Sisko
ellioth
08-11-2008, 06:22 AM
Sisko was the best Captain and also the most entertaining.
He always had a hands on approach and there was a sense of madness behind his eyes.
bunglerm00se
08-11-2008, 06:26 AM
I guess to answer the question, I'd have to ask myself... if I were a newly minted Starfleet ensign, which one of these captains would I trust the most with my life?
If I were a redshirt, there's no way in hell I'd server under Kirk. That dude goes through junior officers as if there were a magical crewmember-making machine out there somewhere... oh wait, there is. It's called Starfleet Academy.
For me, it'd be a tie between Picard and Janeway.
MrFurious
08-11-2008, 06:44 AM
Kirk. Without a doubt.
As a side note, in Kirk's time exploring the frontier was inherently dangerous. Kirk didn't do things deliberately to place his crew in harm's way. In fact, Kirk was almost fanatically protective of his crew.
By TNG, things were far more mundane and a lot of the raw exploring had dropped off. It was so mundane by this point they had families on board Starships. They would never have done that in TOS time period. To base your whole analysis on this and to say you'd rather serve under Picard than Kirk (on this issue) seems somewhat misguided. By that analysis, Janeway would have been horrible. Just about every episode revolved around her losing control of her ship. ;)
renef78
08-11-2008, 07:17 AM
It's a tough choice for me between Kirk, Picard, and Sisko. I'd probably go with Kirk in the end, but damn if it isn't a tight race, as I think both Picard and Sisko are fantastic.
Sabr3
08-11-2008, 07:55 AM
Picard all the way no one could have done him better than Patrick Stewart.
fdesensi
08-11-2008, 08:01 AM
Captain Archer
runithard
08-11-2008, 08:09 AM
Archer, he clones his main engineer and KILLS the clone for parts. Not many captains have the guts to make that kind of choice.
The second best captain is the captain of the USS Equinox. Capt Ransom made hard choice and kept his crew safe until Janeway mucked up his great plan.
vanlore
08-11-2008, 08:24 AM
Your all wrong... Q is the best captain ;)
Borg come in 2nd
SakeGami
08-11-2008, 12:09 PM
When you consider the era that each Captain was in, I think they all fit perfectly into their seat.
Janeway would have gotten her crew destroyed the minute she had been thrust into Kirks era, etc.
However, being in the military, I can easily say that Kirk was the best in retrospect to "diplomatic" situations. Not everything has to be all pansy wansy Pwime Diwective all the time. He did what had to be done, and he some fun doing it at the time. Its kind of funny, but I could picture Kirk as a Klingon.
slinx
08-11-2008, 02:37 PM
Picard.
He's been in some of the best fantasy and sci-fi. Star Trek, Dune, Excalibur. So Patrick Stewart FTW.
willowwish
08-11-2008, 02:57 PM
I don't know why this question continues to plague some of you???
Piccard was a CEO sitting with his 2 VP's & making what should be snap decissions, at a boardroom meeting after 2 hours of discussion.
Janeway started out with some guts but she was quickly rewritten to follow the corprate line.
Sisko? Why even mention a janitor???
Archer? Did I or did I not distincly hear him say "Oh BOY!" when he acidently quanumleapt onto the bridge of the enterprise? I mean, any captain that spends 2 years fighting the youngest of 3 girls (in curls) from a 70's sitcom has nad issues.
ONLY KIRK can ever be considered or called CAPTAIN. The rest were diplomats, CEO's, Janitors or just to busy asking for directions to actually move anywhere.
KIRK is the captains captain. The one ALL of them look up to & ALL have mentioned. He understood the flexability of the prime directive & the rigididty of the Phaser. Need I say more!
Varien
08-11-2008, 04:09 PM
Janeway all the way followed by Archer, everybody else is equal with Sisko on the bottom
Ensign.Ricky
08-11-2008, 04:20 PM
I think Sisko is is one of the toughest Captain's ever. None of the other Captains have lost as much as he has. In my opinion he had to work the hardest to earn his stripes. Also he was the only one we saw ever make the jump from Commander to Captain. To me he is the most battle hardened.
I grew up watching Picard and to me he is a Captain's Captain. A father figure that you don't want to let down. I think he's the most disciplined and well rounded of the Captains. He strikes me as the guy that always had the highest accolades and accommodations through out his career. Picard is the most established and probably the smartest of the group. He is the ideal Captain.
That brings us to James Tiberius Kirk. The man is a Legend. The only man to beat the Kobayashi Maru. He is the epitome of an swashbuckler adventuring Captain. He is the type of Captain who goes by his gut and will disregard the Prime Directive. In a no win situation, he can still win. While not as defined as Picard he is the most cunning and clever of the Captains. He might not be as well defined as Picard but when faced head to head I agree with the others. Kirk is unpredictable, he makes his own rules and gets the girl.
If we had to go for who was the better Captain by Starfleet officer standards I would say Picard gets the nod. But to me Kirk is the classic hero. Even Picard needed his help in the end.
Bailo
08-11-2008, 04:26 PM
Janeway makes an excellent captain...but..i also love Jean-Luc.....its a difficult choice..give me some time to mull it over ....
Ryan3932
08-11-2008, 10:28 PM
Kirk - I haven't seen much of the TOS, but I can say for sure that Kirk was an awesome captain
Sisko - Sisko is pretty cool but I don't have much to say about him
Picard - Picard is a cool captain, but I personally don't like him as the other captains
Janeway - Janeway is a girl captain, she is a fierce person, she is a pretty good captain, and hey, she got her crew home
Archer - Archer is an interesting captain, he fought fiercely and was fair and always got through everything
I like Archer and Janeway the best. However I think Picard is the #1 Captain with Archer and Kirk coming in second, Janeway coming in third, and Sisko coming 4th.
magusvx
08-12-2008, 12:40 AM
Picard was by far the best. Kirk screwed all the Alien women and kicked butt but Picard was the best he endoured the most pain i have ever seen one man take. Borg, cardassians, etc and he never gave the enemy what they wanted. if he was a real capitan id also go with Q cause he was awesome lol
staticblue
08-12-2008, 01:23 AM
Archer or Janeway. Archer did it first but, Janeway did it all alone.
JKMurphy
08-12-2008, 01:49 AM
in truth I can't deside, Kirk, was by far the more daring, always knew what to do and didn't wait around for starfllet to stick it's big nose in, Picard, in my view is very dipolomatic about every thing and takes every step to avoid a phaser fight bit boaring but make up for that in other ways, Captain Benjimen sisko got to admire his devotion and skill at being able to handle his love to Bajore but loyalty to the Federation, and of course captain Catherine Janeway by far the fittest captian in the delta quandrant as I'm sure most male fans will agree & that orn will of hers could easily match the wrath of any Klingon, and last of all captain Jonethan Archer captain of the USS enterprise A and of the first starfleet warp 5 ship, boldly went everywhere even if a little on the dangerous side and always came out on top no matter what the situation.
I'd have to say Kirk was the best captain out of all of them, because he is very quick on his feet, and doesn't hesitate to bend the rules should the need arise.
Sealance
08-12-2008, 04:11 AM
My vote goes to Rachel Garrett. Captain of the Enterprise C :)
hinaito
08-12-2008, 04:17 AM
I would have to say a tie between Captain Jean Luc Picard and Jonathan Archer. Both were very brave, very intelligent, and very AWESOME!
Wyrminarrd
08-12-2008, 04:21 AM
My vote goes to Picard.
reabdivad
08-12-2008, 04:42 AM
JANEWAY! In ST Voyager she pwned the borg countless times, killed species 8472, and did this single handed 70000 lightyears from the federation.
JKMurphy
08-12-2008, 04:42 AM
Picard is poop, the only one he is better then is neelix, who was the captain of his own freither until he joined voyager.
reabdivad
08-12-2008, 04:43 AM
Or Mackenzie Calhoun if we are also talking about captians from books. :D
JKMurphy
08-12-2008, 04:48 AM
lol, in that case I vote for captain scarlet :D
CaptainMecno
08-12-2008, 07:23 AM
For me it is Sisko followed by picard.
Kocht
08-12-2008, 08:03 AM
I like Sisko and Picard a lot, but Kirk is still my favorite character, despite his being less sophisticated than his followers. I particularly enjoy his binary mode : "Machine ? Kirk destroys / Woman ? Kirk seduces" and his ability to get out of any tight spot, often at the price of some unfortunate red shirts or by some "scottish" miracle, but not always : after all, he invented the Corbomite an Fizzbin, didn't he ?
Of course, serial characters at his time were more simple than current ones, a fact that mustn't be forgotten when comparing him to the more refined Picard, or the spiritual oriented Sisko.
Trageon
08-12-2008, 08:25 AM
I would have to side with Picard, as a StarFleet representive deplomacy should be priority one, aggression should only be used as a last resort.
MrFurious
08-12-2008, 08:42 AM
I don't think it's fair to call Kirk simple. The movies added a lot (I mean A LOT) of depth to the character. Look at a few of these examples (just off the top of my head):
1) Kirk deals with the fact that he's aging - but it's not the aging that gets him, it's being separated from his first love - exploration (or hopping galaxies as Dr. McCoy puts it). We as viewers get to experience the duality of his success, but the separation from his love.
2) Kirk's relationship with his crew (primarily McCoy and Spock) is closer to family than just close friends. He'd do anything for them and they'd do anything for him. This is different than the relationships in other series where they care about their crew, but they never approach family.
3) Despite his relationship with Spock/McCoy, Kirk regrets not being able to have a simpler life with a wife and kids. This is evident in both ST: II in the pain he has from staying away from David Marcus and in ST: VII when he "settles down" in the ribbon.
4) Kirk will do what's right despite the great personal cost to him. ST:III he steals the Enterprise knowing it will cost him his command. He loses his ship, his command, and his son in the process. Despite the horrible personal cost, he recognizes it was right and states that he had to do it or the cost would have been his soul.
5) Kirk has enormous personal sacrifice. Unlike TNG time, TOS meant no family traveling with you. A captain's life really was a more solitary one. He gave up a family, lost his son, gave up Edith Keeler, and eventually his life in the ribbon all to do what was correct for Earth, for Starfleet, and for others.
6) Kirk recognized (maybe from his experience with his dual nature in the transporter accident in the series) that he needed his darker side and his pain to be an effective captain. For all its flaws, ST: V did reveal some additional and deep things about Kirk. He refused to let go of that pain despite it being an easier life to simply wash it away. Kirk was a hero not just because he saved Earth countless times, but because he was absolutely incorruptible and would always be the carrier of light despite all the personal costs.
It could be said that Kirk's life was not all together a happy one. However, he forged the trail that would allow humanity to have a comfortable place among the stars. Picard, Sisko, and Janeway were all the benefactors of Kirk's work. If it were not for him, they could never have sat safely on their bridges pontificating some piece of diplomatic or moral federation code. Kirk's status rightly takes on the persona of "the hero" despite his very human qualities.
andrew1974
08-12-2008, 08:48 AM
Sisko was my favorite captain, though Kirk comes a close second.....the Hue Heffner of alpha quadrant
Barnjohn
08-12-2008, 08:52 AM
The man, the myth, the legend - Jean-luc Picard, and the ultra-cool Sisko = The best captains.
How anyone can say Kirk I don't know. There was nothing great about him, probably why I enjoyed Generations so much.
SteveTheMeek
08-12-2008, 09:05 AM
Jean-Luc, no contest!
then:
Archer
Kirk
Sisko
and last and least Janeway.
suck on that, Gorngobs(?)!
Captain Jean Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise. He's not afraid to hit Riker.
Pfeiffer
08-14-2008, 12:10 PM
Picard is the man. Considering that he had to put up with Wesley Crusher for so long and the ship didn't blow up should convince any of you nay-sayers.
Picard.. close second janeway. Favorite series... voyager.. close second TNG ; )
bitgolem
08-14-2008, 01:16 PM
Picard.. close second janeway. Favorite series... voyager.. close second TNG ; )
I don't know how anyone could say Janeway was a good Captain. Janeway was the priveleged daughter of a Starfleet Admiral and a Bureaucrat. I don't think she would have even pursued command had it not been necessary to make Admiral herself.
Antispartan26
08-14-2008, 02:20 PM
There's really only one answer: Kirk. I mean who else could talk a supercomputer into blowing itself up while scoring with all the ladies & out thinking every hostile alien he meets. :D
Minty
08-14-2008, 02:24 PM
Captain Benjamin Maxwell was the best, because he saw what the Cardassians were up to and he did something about it!
johnny_sisko
08-14-2008, 02:30 PM
Sisko and Janeway on the screen. Picard was awesome of course, just loved the different roads traveled by the other two. Archer was over the top, and Kirk was a-ok...
Off the screen, favorite actor is Kate Mulgrew. Hands down the best at conventions. Down to Earth, funny, and entertaining. A true good person.
skywolf
08-14-2008, 02:33 PM
Archer, Picard, and Janeway are my favorites.
I have to say this, but Kirk annoyed me.
:eek:
*dodges the incoming phaser firestorm*
Re4_wesker
08-14-2008, 04:53 PM
my fav were picard, sisko, and kirk.
archer needed acting lesson although the character wasnt that bad. I just wasnt interested in Janeway and then I read her fate in the "Before Dishonor" book and she went even further down on the list.Also she didnt believe Picard in the "Resistence" book either which decreased my confidence in her.
Kirk47
08-14-2008, 06:57 PM
1) Kirk
2) Janeway
3) Sisko
4) Picard
Talawsohu
08-14-2008, 08:50 PM
Sisko. I mean, he was a friggin' god. And he killed Jem'hadar with his bare hands.
BIGFOOT
08-14-2008, 08:57 PM
Picard for president!
Susarian
08-14-2008, 09:00 PM
Kirk. Not contest. All other captains worshiped his name. All other captains were compared to Kirk. Kirk is the standard.
Aametherar
08-14-2008, 09:07 PM
Picard
Kirk
Archer=Janeway
I refuse to acknolwedge the existance of any other captains that never earned their promotion.
Lendosan
08-14-2008, 11:54 PM
Im torn between Picard and Sisko. Picard and the TNG was an amazing series that REALLY grabbed the ST eta and dragged it out of the basic Fantasy/Sci-Fi setting that was TOS. Sisko because the last two series of DS9 ROCKED! I mean the Dominion War was always edge of your seat stuff.
However saying that PIcard gave me my first original Star Trek Experience (remember I wasn't born during TOS) so I guess its the following:
1) Picard
2) Sisko
3) Kirk
4) Janeway
5) Archer
However, the best ST Captains ever (including the books that ARE canon).
1) Picard
2) M'k'n'zy of Calhoun (Machenzie Calhoun)
3) Sisko
4) Sulu
5) Kirk
Arboat
08-15-2008, 12:00 AM
I'll have to go with Sisko.
All captains had their own style of leadership, but I found Sisko's performance to be the most spellbinding.
Cuddles
08-15-2008, 12:22 AM
Captain Kirk, if only because he ripped his shirt off in each episode on principle only!
But actually, the best Captain had to be Picard.
My real favorite will be Captain Sisko (not the emissary!!!)
The_Sisko
08-16-2008, 10:11 AM
Has anyone been keeping score? If not, I'll just have to declare Sisko the winner.
Beecus
08-16-2008, 10:16 AM
Kirk would rip the still beating heart out of the chest of any of the others and show it to them, while simultaneously making out with two green Orion slave girls, while also happening to be violating the prime directive.
So, you know. Him.
haha! :D Kirk is the best because he acted on intuition and hormones! ;)
Lizzio
08-16-2008, 10:25 AM
picard like a real captain :)
phantomstar
08-16-2008, 11:29 AM
Kirk wins hands down. All the other captains would be talking over their options, and what the motivations of the other captains were, and how they should try to understand them. While Kirk would kill Archer with his coolness, slap Sisko like down like a *****, make Picard get him some gay tea, and sleep with Janeway before killing them all, with that smug smile on his face.
I agree, Kirk all the way. (btw, this made me laugh so freaking hard.. thx)
FAZeus
08-16-2008, 11:49 AM
;)i choose Ben Sisko his tactial skill is legendary unlike kirk whom i admire sisko fought a war (and Won ) lead a people whom been through slavery and are now starting to rebuild (revoloution)i mean i have much respect for kirk face it tho he's never beat sisko or picard and i say this with one thought that comes to mind
Out Classed Kirk Is Out Classed By The Exelsior,Ambassador,Nebula,Galaxy,Defiant,Intrepid and Soverign
Comeon People Let's Be Fair Kirk Was Good In His Time But Fair's No Chance Against Today's Ships And Tactics(I'd Like To See Scotty Disable Geordies OR Belana's engines)lol
Your's Truly -Fleet Admiral Zeus-
International Alliance
www.iaclanhq.com;)
whoman69
08-16-2008, 02:23 PM
I have to say that at times Kirk was the most effective commander, but then he'd start overacting and go into that stutter.
Archer was the least effective just because I never felt that Bakula's self effacing acting style lent to be a great leader. The series was so flawed that he was out automatically. I think Janeway spent the whole series proving she had a bigger pair than any of the other commanders. Her initial order which kept them in the Delta Quadrant was the most egregious offense of the Prime Directive in any of the series, and she claimed she made the decision because of the Prime Directive. She made the decision because she did not want the Kazon to have the technology. If the Prime Directive is properly applied it would seem like they were never there to interfere. Had Voyager not been there the technology would have gone to the Kazon. My bet is they never would have figured out how to work it.
TNG spent too much time trying to make everyone into renaissance characters. Classical music, Shakespeare, philosophical discussions...They were so pretentious.
For me the most effective commander was Sisko because of that series' dynamic. He made unpopular decisions but was backed up by the crew in the end because they respected him. Sisko went a bit too far at times and he knew it. He did what he thought he had to do.
Mappy
08-16-2008, 02:48 PM
I'd have to go with Sisko.
wgc01
08-16-2008, 02:57 PM
I like them all, hard to pick just one...:)
mactorrin
08-16-2008, 04:06 PM
Make mine......James T Kirk
vitamin_t
08-16-2008, 04:14 PM
Kirk would rip the still beating heart out of the chest of any of the others and show it to them, while simultaneously making out with two green Orion slave girls, while also happening to be violating the prime directive.
So, you know. Him.
Well spoken!
Picard.
I mean come on, he's Patric Stewart.
As he said...COME ON, ITS PICARD!!!!!!
My vote=Professor X:)
usernamepasswordg
08-31-2008, 11:30 PM
Sisko/Picard
Kirk
Archer
Janeway (should be in a penal colony).
Picard and Sisko are equal in my book. Kirk is very good too but he isn't my generation.
Janeway was bad Captain. I think everyone knew that since the first episode. How many times did she try to blow her own crew up? 50% of episodes I bet. Not only that but she CHANGED the timeline because she just didn't like how natural events took place. What a bad person.
WinterPark1701
09-01-2008, 06:47 AM
Sisko
Archer
Picard
Kirk
Janeway (had a bad habit of dieing a lot)
Sisko, lets face it he was a major player in the Dominion War, leading several major battles. He also didn't take **** from any one ("Picard Never Hit Me" "I'm Not Picard") He built the Defiant which went on to be a very successful ship class and was even mass produced during the war, the Bajorians Loved Him and he did all this as a single dad.
AllahMode
09-01-2008, 06:57 AM
Gul'Dukat
10charblackhole
Nashy
09-01-2008, 07:02 AM
I say Archer. He was actually out there to explore with no prime directives at the time. And he wasn't afraid to fight. Plus Self Sacrifice on many occasions and he traveled back and forward into time more than any captain i think! plus! Hes a pink skin thats a friend with an Andorian! And much much more! well thats all i gotta say *Quantum Leaps into a different time*
triumvir
09-01-2008, 07:13 AM
This question is far too hard to answer for a few reasons, most of which have been highlighted by others above. We need to remember that while Picard was probably a deeper character than Kirk overall, the producers of TNG had a lot more time to flesh out Picard. In addition, the technology and budget clearly grew a lot between the end of TOS and the beginning of TNG. We owe Kirk a deep debt of gratitude for getting people interested in Star Trek enough to allow there to be Picard (and the other captains).
So Kirk starts off with a handicap right from the start - short glimpse of his captain skills coupled with low budget on the show. Picard has a handicap in that his support crew was made up of some pretty amazing people. While Picard was a brilliant leader, Starfleet also surrounded him with greatness. Kirk's crew on TOS was good (e.g. McCoy and Spock), but they were not all the powerhouses that you see on the bridge of the Enterprise-E.
In the end, I think my favorite is still Picard - but by a margin so slim that even Commander Data might not be able to detect it. I like Kirk a lot more in the movies that followed TOS - and I have to disagree with a previous poster (Picard needed Kirk in Generations, not vice-versa). I suppose you can consider this a vote in favor of Picard, though - primarily because TNG was the best series, which is another whole thread altogether. ;)
Oh, and Honorable Mention to Malcolm Reynolds - his swashbuckling and leadership rivals that of Captain Kirk any day!
usernamepasswordg
09-01-2008, 09:35 AM
We owe Kirk a deep debt of gratitude for getting people interested in Star Trek enough to allow there to be Picard (and the other captains).
So we should be guilt tripped to favor Kirk?
Random19
09-01-2008, 10:07 AM
Kirk all the way. (Glances at avatar)
sundown
09-01-2008, 01:06 PM
Kirk is the man, will always be the man and everyone knows it including Picard. When even Picard needed help who did his bartender tell him to seek? None other than Kirk himself.
Q likes Picard... I like Q... Q never visited Kirk... to primitive.
Picard is obviously the best captain, otherwise Q wouldn't like him so much.
I like Picard.
If Q was a deciding factor then Sisko beats Picard hands and fist on this... Sisko punched Q.
And could you ever imagine dealing with Q or his ilk as a child? Trelane
usernamepasswordg
09-01-2008, 02:49 PM
Kirk is the man, will always be the man and everyone knows it including Picard. When even Picard needed help who did his bartender tell him to seek? None other than Kirk himself.
That movie should never be brought up again. It was horrible.
replicant007
09-01-2008, 05:40 PM
My crappy top 3 opinion:
1=Janeway
2=Picard
3=Kirk
Talawsohu
09-01-2008, 08:40 PM
As a young man, I would follow Kirk.
During peace time, I would follow Picard.
In absolute war, Sisko all the way.
darkpony50
09-02-2008, 04:21 AM
I can;t really say, they all had there own characteristics.
Archer was a bad ass and a he would to what he had to do to get the job done
Kirk was a ladies man and a rebel
Picard was a exploer to the bone and his crew was no doubt his family, he could talk his way out of almost anything.
Sisko was alot of things he could also get the job done and do it buy the book, emotional and spirtual, he did a fine example of a leader and a god.
Janeway was a scientist, wich made her a good explorer, yet she was like mother to her crew and she would do anything to get her crew home.
well I will just put them in order for me from best to worse
Picard
Archer
Sisko
Janeway
Kirk
VainEldritch
09-02-2008, 07:17 AM
If I had to serve under one, it would be Picard. The others are fatally flawed as detailed below:
Kirk was a cretin,
Archer was a dullard,
Janeway always looked menopausal (a bad decision waiting to happen there...),
Sisko would lose a battle of wits with a stuffed iguana and was frequently outsmarted by a cheese sandwich...
Another thread from the "retarded' series. What connection does this thread have with the game???
There is a thing called the oficial Star Trek forum. Go there and talk all you want about the captains. Geez.
Gunter
09-03-2008, 01:12 AM
In my opinion, Archer and Janeway are the best captain because they are alone.
The first is alone in his journey (no federation)
The second is far away the Alpha Quadrant.
Both have to take difficult decisions and fight against an hostile and unknown universe ^^
bitgolem
09-03-2008, 05:38 AM
In my opinion, Archer and Janeway are the best captain because they are alone.
Janeway got her ship lost in the Delta Quadrant and she's the best captain?
Gunter
09-03-2008, 06:08 AM
Janeway got her ship lost in the Delta Quadrant and she's the best captain?
Her situation is harder and she is doing well.
That why i think she is the best whith Archer...
Omega1
09-03-2008, 06:25 AM
Sisko....DS9 was a fantastic series, the best imo
usernamepasswordg
09-03-2008, 01:06 PM
Her situation is harder and she is doing well.
That why i think she is the best whith Archer...
She went back in history and CHANGED it. She isn't very moral.
WinterPark1701
09-03-2008, 10:34 PM
She went back in history and CHANGED it. She isn't very moral.
Who didn't? Kirk did a lot of that stuff.
Sisko
Picard
Archer
Kirk
Janeway.
TrackStar
09-04-2008, 01:16 AM
Picard far and away is the best.
Garfield_cro
09-04-2008, 08:29 AM
the best captain was cpt. J. Archer
he was the first of them all, and he was the one who had to break the ice, if it had been some other captain there maybe would not be a federation today ^^. he managed to put things right again, to maintain a fragile peace between the Andorians, Vulcans and the Tellarites, and at the same time to be an ally to the Vulcans
btw they are the first 4 planets, species that signed the federation charter, the first federation members
and after Archer comes Janeway cause she was able to survive in an completely alien environment, and bring the crew home (more or less).
Riker_Xero
09-04-2008, 08:30 AM
Capt. Benjamin Lafayette Sisko.
Hell, he started and ended the Dominion war in the Star Trek Universe...
Garfield_cro
09-04-2008, 08:49 AM
what do u mean by "started" the war
its not like he invaded the Founders home world and killed them or something, and btw he is a Starfleet officer, Starfleet does not go around like a bunch of Klingons attacking people.
trooper_c
09-04-2008, 08:57 AM
ive gota say its a tie between archer and sisko
Riker_Xero
09-04-2008, 09:17 AM
what do u mean by "started" the war
its not like he invaded the Founders home world and killed them or something, and btw he is a Starfleet officer, Starfleet does not go around like a bunch of Klingons attacking people.
:eek:
Oh my bad, let me deploy a minefield to the entrance to your kitchen and see how you like it.:(
Yes "started" is not a healthy word for the Federation but it's how it was. They really weren't invading the Alpha quadrant because the "Spoon-Heads" joined the Dominion. So, started is the word of choice.:D
----End Transmission----
Jean Luc Rulez!!! He is self-controled, yet has steel, a diplomat, and a warrior.
Garfield_cro
09-04-2008, 09:27 AM
well if u put it like that :D than yes, but everyone knew that the dominion is going to attack and the minefield was just a defense so that the dominion would not overwhelm the federation and conquer the alpha quadrant in the first attack
so, if Sisko had not put the minefield there, the dominion would overrun the alpha quadrant because the numbers were on their side.
Mailman653
09-04-2008, 09:40 AM
Rachel Garrett....:D ha ha ha
Or
The Romulan commander from the TOS episode Balance of Terror.
Or Picard of course, ;)
Thoth
09-04-2008, 09:48 AM
Kirk for President!
:)
LOL.
Always a fan of TOS, but Picard is a close second followed by Sisko, Archer, and Janeway.
timborg
09-04-2008, 10:53 PM
picard is the best, then archer then then ethier sisko/janeway the kirk because he is the worst out of all of them
note im not sure about sisko because i not watched ds9
Verkruk
09-05-2008, 01:04 AM
Kirk was... very, original. Yet at times would let his pride cloud his better judgment.
Picard was by the book, till the book didn't work then he tosses it out the window. And has proven to be the toughest of the Captains.
Janeway.... well drat... I loved and hated this series and a large part of it hinged on her performances as a Captain. But proved to be the most dedicated.
Never got to watch DS9 or Enterprise.
So I am going to have to give this stupidly close decision of mine to Picard.
The guy is tough, and sadly the TV series nor the movies ever really show just how physically fit the guy is.
Or how mentally strong he is capable of being.
Omega1
09-05-2008, 01:07 AM
Kirk was... very, original. Yet at times would let his pride cloud his better judgment.
Picard was by the book, till the book didn't work then he tosses it out the window. And has proven to be the toughest of the Captains.
Janeway.... well drat... I loved and hated this series and a large part of it hinged on her performances as a Captain. But proved to be the most dedicated.
Never got to watch DS9 or Enterprise.
So I am going to have to give this stupidly close decision of mine to Picard.
The guy is tough, and sadly the TV series nor the movies ever really show just how physically fit the guy is.
Or how mentally strong he is capable of being.
I strongly recommend getting your hands on DS9, brilliant t.v!
V_GER
09-05-2008, 01:40 AM
Run Reminiscence Subroutine:
Picard. (we miss him terribly)
Kirk
Archer
Hepburn
Sisko
Angelphoenix12
09-05-2008, 07:41 PM
Id have to kirk is the best captain. :D he can kick butt and take names, and send a random red shirt to his death in a institint. :p
BENIBOY
09-06-2008, 06:02 AM
My favourite is picard.And i like kirk then janeway then sisko and i hate arcer
OneRandomGuy
09-06-2008, 07:50 AM
Kirk
Picard
Janeway