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Daggaroth
07-27-2008, 11:34 PM
Hello guys, i would like to plant the flag for the Shadow Fleet to be founded here on this day in this forum.

UPDATE:
we are continuing to grow and prosper, we are currently seeking active members who wish to be apart of a fleet that is planning to excel in all aspects of the game, whatever they may be and become a major power within the federation

if you are interested in joining our fleet, please check out the links in my signature below, or post here in this forum and we will help you join our fine fleet

backstory:
Officially, Shadow Fleet does not exist. You won’t find it assigned to any sectors, you can’t find a list of member captains or vessels, and you certainly won’t hear about it by accident. This state of “non-existence” is how the Fleet got its name.

Shadow Fleet History
Origins

By late 2374 the Dominion War was in full swing and things were looking grim for the Federation. Despite the successful retaking of Deep Space Nine during Operation: Return, the Federation was suffering from a severe shortage of manpower, many of their shipyards were still being rebuilt, and the Dominion had succeeded in capturing Betazed and were thus in a prime position to invade several core Federation worlds. It would have been only a matter of time before the Federation and Klingon Empire were defeated if it had not been for the timely and swift entrance by the Romulans into the War.



It was at this point in time that the Federation acted to conceal part of its efforts to rebuild and rearm itself. The list of shipyards still being rebuilt was compiled and the one deemed most likely to be brought back on-line soonest was selected and records were falsified to make it appear to have been abandoned. In truth, it was tasked with producing starships as quickly as possible. The “intangible” nature of the Fleet earned it the nickname “Shadow Fleet” amongst the handful of people who knew of its existence and the name stuck.



When the Breen entered the War on the Dominion side and the devastation their energy dissipater weapons caused, Shadow Fleet’s vessels were used to test the various defense systems devised by Starfleet scientists. A countermeasure was devised when a stolen Jem’Hadar attack ship fitted with one of the Breen weapons was delivered by the Cardassian rebellion and the Fleet was moved to operational status. At the time, only a few ships had been completed and all of them were made part of the taskforce that participated in the Battle of Cardassia and helped bring the Dominion War to an end.


Involvement with Section 31

The clandestine group known as Section 31 found the amorphous nature of Shadow Fleet to fit its own modus operandi exceptionally well. After the end of the Dominion War, Section 31 attempted to turn Shadow Fleet into its own personal fleet, something at which they nearly succeeded: the most loyal and resourceful Starfleet officers were added to its roster, new and experimental technologies were tested aboard its ships, and it was employed to conduct missions of a sensitive nature.



Unfortunately for Section 31, a small crack in their control over Shadow Fleet allowed a Romulan defector known as Daggaroth to be appointed as the head of Shadow Fleet. Section 31 had engineered it so that all of Starfleet’s covert ops fell to the Shadow Fleet, and thus to Section 31 itself, and eventually it became routine so it only seemed natural that a former member of the Tal’Shiar should be responsible for future covert ops.



Daggaroth brought in some officers who were a bit swifter on the uptake than Section 31 could have anticipated and who definitely didn’t like their ships and crew being just another pawn. Daggaroth and his officers recognized the need for covert operations, especially with the faltering relationship with the Klingon Empire and the upheaval occurring in the Romulan Star Empire. They felt, however, that Section 31’s actions were going a bit over the line.



No one knows if the movements were coordinated or if it just turned out the way it did, but Shadow Fleet suddenly stopped cooperating with Section 31’s orders and its agents were instructed not to press the issue. Those who did so quickly found their previous activities with Section 31 suddenly brought into the light before a Federation court.


fly safe.

Daggaroth

Murk_Loar
07-28-2008, 12:16 AM
Im glad you didnt name it 'Demios Fleet' or something like that lol.

Good luck regardless old friend.

Daggaroth
07-28-2008, 12:26 AM
heh can i count you as my first member Murk_loar?

( for those who dont know i know murk threw the game Eve Online )

topekaguy1988
07-28-2008, 12:28 AM
Topekaguy1988 reporting, Sir!!!

topekaguy1988
07-28-2008, 12:32 AM
Requesting permission to come aboard... (Hey, where's the ship?)

Murk_Loar
07-28-2008, 12:38 AM
Oh no no no.

I'll be making my own fleet called 'Goonswarm' lmao.

Sorry

Murk_Loar
07-28-2008, 12:39 AM
Oh no no no.

I'll be making my own fleet called 'Goonswarm' lmao.

Sorry

Daggaroth
07-28-2008, 12:44 AM
well actually i have my personal ship ( the U.S.S. Kitsap) which i designed and have a website for here ( www.kitsap.cjb.net) ((sorry for the advertisement, its a free web hosting))

and that will be the flag ship of shadowfleet, however there will be many many many more ships to come =)

Daggaroth
07-28-2008, 12:28 PM
just a update for people who are interested in the shadow fleet, soon we will be part of a private STO community that has extended a invitation to us to join them, we will have some Forum space as well as our own channel('s) in a Ventrilo Server. more information to come,

and people if you are intrested in joining our fleet please send me a private message or post on here and ill get to you.

more info to come.

fly safe

\\//_

Daggaroth
07-28-2008, 06:11 PM
Forums are up

http://www.modcraft.net/community/index.php?act=idx

under Fleets in the STO sub forum.

regester and post =)

Daggaroth
08-04-2008, 11:05 AM
we have a few ships already planned for the shadow fleet ( and we will host Text based roleplaying on the website ( once the website is up) until the game is public


U.S.S. Kitsap. NCC-98366 (shadow fleet Flagship)
CO: Fleet Admiral Torbor Antius ( me)
XO: Commander Jason Alkari.
Tact: available
Science: Available
Medical: available
Chief Engineer: Available
Helm: available

For more infomation on the U.S.S. kitsap including pictures and Technical Specifications please visit www.kitsap.cjb.net (sorry for the adverts its a free host service)


Name: U.S.S. Flying Dutchman
Class: Nebula-class
Captain: Commodore William H. Hadley
XO: available
Tact: available
Science: Available
Medical: available
Chief Engineer: Available
Helm: available

Name: U.S.S Valor

Captain: Huntmilo1995
XO: available
Tact: available
Science: Available
Medical: available
Chief Engineer: Available
Helm: available



if you have intrests in filling a specific posts on one of these fine vessels please contact me via private message.

JSM3050
08-04-2008, 02:51 PM
Lt. Cmdr. Jason Alkari, Fleet Archivist, reporting in.

It should be noted that the U.S.S. Flying Dutchman is fictitious and created by me simply to add some "depth" to the Fleet.

BorgKing
08-06-2008, 08:10 AM
I'm intrested in joining the Shadow Fleet.

Characters name will be Goneril so its Cdt Goneril or Admiral Goneril etc.

I'd like to join in science, medical or command onboard the flagship kitsap.

I have high end experience in EvE online specifically in diplomacy and electronic warfare which is ideal for a science role. As for medical well in WoW my main was a healadin, basically including all instances except the new sunwell as I left before it came out not sure so much if it counts in this game, but what the hell. As I have led a PVP guild called Unbreakable in WoW in the past which became highly successful most notable the first rank 14's and first S3's on aerie peak as well as winning several tournaments I have ample experience in leadership. Also I took a second character in eve online designed specifically to deal with alliance and corporation management and diplomacy which would be perfect for command.

Hope i will be accepted and then enquire about roles further.

JSM3050
08-06-2008, 12:16 PM
Welcome, The Borg King! :D

Daggaroth is still in the process of getting us a Fleet website together. As the Kitsap is in need of all services you expresed interest in, I imagine that you'll find a home on board. Probably would be best to drop him a private message and talk with him, though.

BorgKing
08-06-2008, 12:25 PM
I do have a question tho, what the heck does kitsap mean or where did you come up with the name :p

JSM3050
08-06-2008, 12:37 PM
You'll have to take that up with Daggaroth I'm afraid. He seems to have created the ship a few years back and I only recently met him through the forums here.

JSM3050
08-06-2008, 03:57 PM
The Shadow Fleet Database (http://www.freewebs.com/shadowfleet/) is now active. More information will be added as it becomes available.

huntmilo1995
08-06-2008, 04:07 PM
the uss valor will join u and your fine fleet all it needs is a crew freewebs.com/ussvalorfleet

huntmilo1995
08-06-2008, 04:44 PM
Development on the Prometheus-class starship project began in the early 2360's at the Beta Antares shipyards. With the Dominion threat becoming more serious, development was stepped up and contruction began in the early 2370's. The Prometheus design borrows its shape from the Intrepid-class starships, except it features four standard warp nacelles similar in design to the nacelles used in the Sovereign-class starship. In 2374, the U.S.S. valor NX-59650 was launched and began top secret field tests.The USS valor is a testbed of technologies being researched by Starfleet. In standard configuration, the ship is composed of an arrowhead-shaped primary hull attached directly to a secondary hull supporting four warp nacelles on short pylons in an 'X' configuration. In battle, this ship can go into "multi-vector assault mode" in which the vessel may divide into three ships — the saucer, the upper engineering hull, and the lower engineering hull — to allow for multiple independently moving weapons platforms. The saucer has two small warp nacelles that are stored in recesses while joined and extend once the saucer has separated.

JSM3050
08-06-2008, 04:48 PM
Welcome to the Fleet, huntmilo1995! :D

huntmilo1995
08-06-2008, 07:58 PM
ty very much (personal log stardate 8.0265 i have recently joined a fleet called shadow fleet
it is one impresive fleet with a flagship that has more firepower then 15 galxy ships i
cant wait to serve in this fleet)

Daggaroth
08-06-2008, 08:15 PM
if you read its description on the shadow fleet website, it was designed with technologies brought back from the Delta quadrent by the U.S.S. voyager ( including (( but not limited to)) ablative armor, Transphasic Torpedoes. and adaptive shielding . as well as many other technologies that officially do not exist yet

huntmilo1995
08-06-2008, 08:25 PM
sweeet what a tight ship hey did u look at my new specs i put up on my website for my ship

JSM3050
08-06-2008, 08:40 PM
if you read its description on the shadow fleet website, it was designed with technologies brought back from the Delta quadrent by the U.S.S. voyager ( including (( but not limited to)) ablative armor, Transphasic Torpedoes. and adaptive shielding . as well as many other technologies that officially do not exist yetYet you continue to use that silly Warbird as an avatar? You need me to re-size the picture of the Kitsap? :p

huntmilo1995
08-07-2008, 09:09 AM
OVERVIEW
Designation Special Tactical Cruiser (see Here)
Commission Dates 2567 - present
Crew 1240
aircraft 2- delta flyers

6-probes

6-type 11 shuttles

2-glyders
1-tactical vessal

TACTICAL
Weapons - 19 Type XI Phaser Bolt Cannons, 16 Phaser Arrays (in Multi-Vector Assault Mode) 14 Quantum Torpedo Launchers (Stock 1350)
Shield Strength - 100.75
Offensive Power - 400.6
OTHER STATS
Maximum Cruising Speed -Warp 39.99 slipstream 4.5
Length 900 M
Decks 36

huntmilo1995
08-07-2008, 05:48 PM
uss valor releases waht the inside will look like!!

Daggaroth
08-08-2008, 07:44 PM
the website is up and running and i have added a sign up page for joining so if you are intrested in joining the fleet please go to www.shadowfleet.webs.com and fill out the form =)

fly safe

Daggaroth

huntmilo1995
08-08-2008, 07:51 PM
77 days tell the uss valor leves the drydocks for bridge commander and star trek legacy and soon sto =)

JSM3050
08-08-2008, 08:33 PM
Your new avatar suits you much better, Daggaroth. :cool:

Daggaroth
08-08-2008, 09:13 PM
thanks =)



to all those who are intrested joining we are right now in the stages of getting the website off the ground, a ventrilo server to come soon.

i have setup a donation box on the website to accept any donations for helpping start up the shadow fleet.

anyone is welcome to donate any amount of money, all of it will go toward improving the shadow fleet website, and the payment of the ventrilo server once we need it .

once again our website is www.shadowfleet.webs.com

fly safe.

Daggaroth

huntmilo1995
08-09-2008, 08:50 AM
ill donate soon =)

tycho
08-09-2008, 06:16 PM
well i just joined shadow fleet a few days ago and if any one needs a good XO im your man

JSM3050
08-09-2008, 06:20 PM
Welcome to the Fleet, tycho. :)

huntmilo1995
08-09-2008, 06:25 PM
welcome tyco i need a xo or first officer really bad but im sure the uss kitsap could use u more right now =)

lnieves
08-10-2008, 07:05 AM
Since STO looks to be all ship based, do we still need designations such as XO?

I am interested in joining Shadow Fleet even though for STO it may be advantagous to join other fleets as well.

In the beginning it looks like our abilities/technology will be limited and ablative armor used in shadow fleet may not be possible.

JSM3050
08-10-2008, 08:28 AM
Since STO looks to be all ship based, do we still need designations such as XO?

I am interested in joining Shadow Fleet even though for STO it may be advantageous to join other fleets as well.

In the beginning it looks like our abilities/technology will be limited and ablative armor used in shadow fleet may not be possible.Hello, Vyper! :)

The U.S.S. Kitsap is a hold-over from a text-based role-play that Daggaroth was part of. You'll need to talk to him to get all the specifics, though, because he hasn't shared them with me.

Presently, Daggaroth and I are planning to begin a text-based role-play using Shadow Fleet as the focus. Once Star Trek Online is actually released, we'll adopt as necessary, possibly even playing it as two separate universes/timelines (one for the text-based role-play and the other as a more "traditional" Guild in-game).

topekaguy1988
08-10-2008, 10:51 AM
I would like to be tactical/Security officer, Science officer, or Chief Engineer.

topekaguy1988
08-10-2008, 10:59 AM
I am also open to suggestions for any other position that needs filled.

Daggaroth
08-10-2008, 12:22 PM
Since STO looks to be all ship based, do we still need designations such as XO?

I am interested in joining Shadow Fleet even though for STO it may be advantagous to join other fleets as well.

In the beginning it looks like our abilities/technology will be limited and ablative armor used in shadow fleet may not be possible.


once STO is out and we are apart of the game, we will probably be each a captain of our own ship, with me as the Fleet Admiral of shadow fleet. but until then i want to start getting the fleet members to know one another and a great way to do that is to role play with them, it gives you insight into peoples thought process, you get to know them on a better level and by the time the game comes out we will not be strangers that simply signed up on a website because they liked the name of the fleet, we will be friends and fleet members that will be able to work together much closely then other fleets that people have signed up for just because they had a nice sounding name.

lnieves
08-10-2008, 01:58 PM
Sounds good Daggaroth. I'll sign up at the Shadowfleet website.

huntmilo1995
08-10-2008, 02:32 PM
welcome to the shadow fleet =)))

Coolsnakes123
08-10-2008, 03:16 PM
I would love to join :). Ensign Mark Kent reporting for duty!!

JSM3050
08-10-2008, 03:50 PM
Welcome to the Fleet, Ensign. :)

Daggaroth
08-10-2008, 04:00 PM
I would love to join :). Ensign Mark Kent reporting for duty!!


welcome to the fleet

please go to www.shadowfleet.webs.com and fill out the form on there..to make it official.

huntmilo1995
08-10-2008, 07:13 PM
cant wiat tell the next game footage comes out =)

Daggaroth
08-10-2008, 10:47 PM
Update:

once our Site has collected enough money to start paying the service fees for the site host, we will begin our text based roleplaying as well as a very detailed database for each one of our ships.

so if you are interested in joining or just feeling generous please visit www.shadowfleet.webs.com and donate on our home page.

we are still recruiting, the Kitsap has a first officer, and a Chief engineer, other posissions still available.

weekly updates to the website, and once we have money the premium services including chat rooms will be implemented .


we are also in the process of planning how our fleet will operate within STO once it has launched.

thank you for your questions and your interest in this fleet, we are working hard to make sure that everyone who joins will have not only a very active fleet to be a part of, but also a family

huntmilo1995
08-11-2008, 11:45 AM
well we now for sure there is going to be fleets and u can create space staions and drydocks to build shps for your fleet so thats a start =) here is the updated specs for the ship OVERVIEW
Designation ADV. ATTACK VESSAL.
Commission Date ?
Crew 1240
aircraft 6-type 11 shuttles

30-escape pods

1-deep space vessal

6-glyders


TACTICAL
Weapons 24 Type XI Phaser Bolt Cannons, 19 Phaser Arrays (in Multi-Vector Assault Mode) 14 Quantum Torpedo Launchers (Stock 1350)
Shield Strength 100.75
Offensive Power 400.6
OTHER STATS
Maximum Cruising Speed Warp 39.99 slipstream 4.5
Length 900 M
Decks 36
multi vector assault mode adv. 65 Type XI Phaser Bolt Cannons, 19 Phaser Arrays 14 Quantum Torpedo Launchers (Stock 1350) 35 shadow torpedo launchers (stock 150)

JSM3050
08-11-2008, 12:45 PM
Commission Date 2567Star Trek Online is set in 2409, though. :confused:

huntmilo1995
08-11-2008, 01:03 PM
yah lets just same i went back in time =o

Daggaroth
08-11-2008, 02:50 PM
heh you realize a promethous class in 2567 would probably be outdated haha

wuikyf
08-11-2008, 04:34 PM
I would like to join the fleet what do i hane to do in order to sign up.

JSM3050
08-11-2008, 06:20 PM
Hello, wuikyf!

You can join the Fleet through our website here (http://www.shadfleet.webs.com). You can also find more information about the Fleet there as well.

huntmilo1995
08-11-2008, 07:50 PM
welcome to the fleet =)

Larakon
08-12-2008, 06:05 AM
It looks like you have a fine Vessel there but unfortunatly i already foudn my fleet.. regardless good luck and safe travels... or if you prefer: Live Long and Prosper.. i'm sure yrou fleet will be quite succesful

Daggaroth
08-12-2008, 06:43 AM
thank you for your kind words larakon. may your travels be unhindered and you find peace among the stars

Daggaroth
08-13-2008, 12:11 AM
we are still openly recruiting, anyone who is interested in joining please send me a private message. or go to www.shadowfleet.webs.com and sign up

lnieves
08-13-2008, 08:21 PM
we are still openly recruiting, anyone who is interested in joining please send me a private message. or go to www.shadowfleet.webs.com and sign up

I signed up on the website this weekend and have not heard back.

Just wondering.:confused:

Daggaroth
08-13-2008, 11:23 PM
sorry i just got home. saw your application, your added to the list =) ill contact you for more information , welcome to the Fleet

huntmilo1995
08-14-2008, 01:04 PM
hi welcome to the fleet =)

tycho
08-14-2008, 08:44 PM
welcome tyco i need a xo or first officer really bad but im sure the uss kitsap could use u more right now =)

huntmilo u can sign me on as your xo/first officer and sorry for not replying earlier i was gone for a few days. i would go for the kitsap but it says XO: Commander Jason Alkari.

Judgeman2021
08-15-2008, 04:58 PM
2021 reporting for duty. I don't know If i will be getting STO unless I get a better computer because this one is like 5 years old. So we'll see when STO comes out. But if you need a Commander or Cheif of Security or any Security at all I'm here.

huntmilo1995
08-15-2008, 05:07 PM
welcome to the fleet =)) talk to the fleet admiral when hes on or g2 the fleet website and join

amberwylf
08-15-2008, 05:20 PM
I am in the official Starfleet as a member of Dark Silence Station and would like to join your crew,I personally like computer ops cause i like building and programming computers.I am trying to get in college to finish my degree.

huntmilo1995
08-15-2008, 05:22 PM
would u like to join are fleet or one of the ships crew?

Daggaroth
08-15-2008, 07:00 PM
for anyone who is intrested in joining, please go to our website, at www.shadowfleet.webs.com and sign up on the regrestration page.

and for those who are interested in text based roleplaying we will be starting up text based roleplaying once we get enough donations into the site for us to activate the premium features and get enough space and bandwidth for the chatrooms .

huntmilo1995
08-16-2008, 10:39 AM
just wanted to inform thast the xo carrer on the uss valor has been taken =)

huntmilo1995
08-17-2008, 05:20 PM
on one of the posts i read i think it would be a good idea to have text based gameplay until the realse of sto? im starting it on my ships datebase for the crew and fleet

lnieves
08-17-2008, 07:59 PM
Hey guys did you all notice the Section 31 Fleet in this forum.

Seems we have either an ally fleet or competition.

It may not matter since shadow fleet is a branch of 31.

Daggaroth
08-17-2008, 10:49 PM
although we were created by section 31. we operate independently from them. to avoid them being found. =)

huntmilo1995
08-18-2008, 06:24 AM
sweet i never new that? i new we were part of section 31 but i didint read the origin of the fleet going to read it know.

huntmilo1995
08-18-2008, 09:56 AM
the chat room is up on the ussvalor website and text based gamepaly is also avalible

tycho
08-18-2008, 11:30 AM
I was wondering since we are "Shadow Fleet" could we make it standerd issue for all of our vessels to take cloaking devices?

Daggaroth
08-18-2008, 11:54 AM
of course =) all our ships are equipped with shadow fleet advanced cloaking devices.

except the U.S.S Kitsap. which is fitted with a prototype Phase Cloak based off the works of the Starfleet core of engineers, The Romulans, the Remans, and breen energy management techniques.

tycho
08-18-2008, 12:07 PM
sounds pritty sweet

Jezebel1669
08-18-2008, 01:01 PM
Offering a new ship for the fleet:

USS Kubikiri, Yeager-class stealth variant
Type: Light cruiser
Production Base: <CLASSIFIED>
Complement: 95 officers and crew
Power Plant: One 1500+ Cochrane warp core feeding two nacelles; one impulse system; Transwarp core and Slipstream capability
Dimensions: Length: 402.11 meters
Beam: 195.64 meters
Height: 58.69 meters
Mass: 550,000 metric tons
Performance: Warp 9.75 for 20 hours
Armament: Five type-9 phaser emitters; one quantum torpedo launcher
Special Equipment: Advanced Automation System, Invasive Communications Array, 'Shadow' Cloaking Device, Wild Weasel shuttles, EMP torpedoes and Warp Interdictor mines.

Strengths: Stealth, disruption, speed and maneuverability.

Weaknesses: Lacks durability and heavy weaponry, too dependent on advanced systems which can be countered by a smart opponent and tactically inflexible.

Standard tactics: Using the 'Shadow' Cloak the Kubikiri closes with its target before accessing their computer systems and removing any information which is needed or would prove useful. Hopefully they can then retreat without being detected but should they then the Kubikiri deploys the Wild Weasels while breaking for greater range. Once clear the EMP torpedoes are launched to disrupt the target long enough for the Kubikiri to jump to warp, deploying the warp interdictor mines in the progress.

Advanced Automation System: Making use of the last remaining Borg implants on her body 16 Of 69 literally wires herself into the Kubikiri's systems. With this unparalleled level of control 16 can coordinate the activities of the crew to an almost Borg level of efficiency, directing their efforts wherever most needed. Coupled with a highly trained and experienced crew, whose loyalty is unquestioning, 16 can achieve the same operational level with far fewer crew members, as well as increasing the reaction speed of the command crew and damage control teams.

Invasive Communications Array: A broad spectrum, multifrequency array tied into a dedicated multiplexing computer core the invasive array can initiate a computer linkup with virtually any known computer system while at the same time remaining undetected. The advanced heuristic search algorithms can then strip data from the target system quickly and efficiently. The greatest weakness of the technology is range with a ship needing to fly close to its target and remain at a fixed distance while the transfer is underway.

'Shadow' Cloaking Device: An advanced form of the refractive shielding technology obtained by the USS Voyager while in the Delta Quadrant, the Shadow Cloak works by actively dampening the energy emissions of the vessel it is mounted as well as altering the waveform of any scanners interacting with the field so that they read a negative response. This technology has an advantage over standard cloaking devices as it relies on the power of the target's own sensors in order to blind them, greatly reducing the energy output required to operate the field. The disadvantage is that a sufficiently wary target with rotating frequency sensors can foul the field causing sensor ghosts to appear on their scanners, possibly exposing the vessel's operation while still preventing a positive weapons lock.

Wild Weasel shuttles: An old technology adapted for modern use, the Wild Weasels are remote piloted shuttle craft with specialised emitters which project false sensor readings to confuse a target. Best used in packs the Wild Weasels alternate between active and inactive causing sensor images to appear to jump from one location to another while the parent ship is safe to disengage. The disadvantage of these shuttles is that it's nearly impossible to recover them once deployed and usually they're fitted with tricobalt self destruct devices which not only destroy all trace of the technology and materials used in their construction, leaving nothing to allow an enemy to trace them back to Section 31, but can also be used in a pinch as an inaccurate but effective surprise attack weapon.

EMP Torpedoes: Specially outfitted torpedo casings fitted out with wide area jamming technology. When they strike their target the EM burst cripples most ship's systems, leaving them unable to pursue the escaping target or at the mercy of a concentrated counter attack. The disadvantages of this weapon are the wide burst of the EM pulse meaning the firing ship has to remain distant from it's target to remain safe of the effects as well as the relative slow speed of the heavy warhead, making them far easier to evade or intercept than standard photon or quantum torpedoes.

Warp Interdictor mines: A highly illegal weapon the warp interdictor mine is actually a subspace detonator, disrupting warp fields and forcing any vessels to drop out of warp or risk a core breach. Their main disadvantage, apart from the political backlash from using such technology, is the range of the effect. Any ship attempting to deploy the mine would have to already be traveling at warp 5 or higher in order to get clear and if a pursuing ship is traveling faster they may overrun the mine before it detonates.

Feel free to offer any comments or suggestions for refinement to this design.

Mr_Sparkle
08-18-2008, 01:10 PM
Salutations,

I hope you have room for one more, Ensign David Mitchell reporting for duty.

Jezebel1669
08-18-2008, 01:12 PM
PS. My character bio: http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=7330

JSM3050
08-18-2008, 07:16 PM
Well, it looks like the Fleet's grown a bit in my absence. :)

tycho
08-18-2008, 09:37 PM
yeah but I wish I chould see how many people we have in our fleet right now.

Also weclome 16 of 69 and Mr_Sparkles to the fleet :)

JSM3050
08-18-2008, 10:10 PM
Last I asked Daggaroth for a headcount, he said we had nine. I'd guess we're up to twelve assuming all new members have posted in this thread.

Also, welcome to all the new members! :D

Mr_Sparkle
08-18-2008, 10:11 PM
Last I asked Daggaroth for a headcount, he said we had nine. I'd guess we're up to twelve assuming all new members have posted in this thread.

Also, welcome to all the new members! :D

Thanks, I can't wait till our first mission

JSM3050
08-18-2008, 10:15 PM
That makes two of us. :cool:

huntmilo1995
08-19-2008, 09:34 AM
welcome to the fleet =)

huntmilo1995
08-19-2008, 09:52 AM
uss valor mission breifing in 1 week on deck 36

huntmilo1995
08-19-2008, 05:04 PM
im looknig for a chief enigner me and my xo went on a mission and had a lot of damage and we need a enginer really bad!

Jezebel1669
08-20-2008, 09:55 AM
I would offer my aid but the Kubikiri is still enroute and should be arriving in a couple of days.

TheHybrid
08-20-2008, 12:10 PM
Hello:

Just getting around to hearing all the good news about STO, and I liked the angle of Shadow Fleet. I'm an avid ST fan and i've played FFXI and WOW before so i know some MMO ethics. I'd like to join, and I want to add my biological and technological distinctiveness to your own, but i'm unfamiliar with how the fleet is set up, how it will operate, what is the command structure and other aspects of it and how it applies to the STO game. I'll head over to the website to register and get everything taken care of. So let me ask, what do I do to help you guys out? I like tactical, medical and command.

Thanks! talk to you guys soon!

tycho
08-20-2008, 12:48 PM
welcome aboard thehybrid :D
you'll want to take your questions to Daggaroth he will have all the answers

huntmilo1995
08-20-2008, 01:58 PM
welcome to the fleet

huntmilo1995
08-20-2008, 03:00 PM
mr.sparkle has filled the chief enginer spot aboard the uss valor and thehybrid is the medical offcier

huntmilo1995
08-20-2008, 03:07 PM
that post i posted like 4 weeks ago saying that i was still looknig for a fleet pepole are still responding to it and i tell them i already have a fleet lol geez its anoying

JSM3050
08-20-2008, 03:31 PM
Hello:

Just getting around to hearing all the good news about STO, and I liked the angle of Shadow Fleet. I'm an avid ST fan and i've played FFXI and WOW before so i know some MMO ethics. I'd like to join, and I want to add my biological and technological distinctiveness to your own, but i'm unfamiliar with how the fleet is set up, how it will operate, what is the command structure and other aspects of it and how it applies to the STO game. I'll head over to the website to register and get everything taken care of. So let me ask, what do I do to help you guys out? I like tactical, medical and command.

Thanks! talk to you guys soon!Welcome to the Fleet, thehybrid! :)

Daggaroth and I are still hammering out the technical details regarding Fleet organization and operation. So far, we're planning on using chatroom sessions and play-by-post games until Star Trek Online is released. The base setting we'll be using is the mid-to-late 2380s (so, it's set before Star Trek Online but chances are good our role-plays will take a different course than Cryptic anyway).

huntmilo1995
08-20-2008, 03:40 PM
we are already playing text paly on my ship!! with him lol

huntmilo1995
08-20-2008, 04:18 PM
all shadow fleet meembers me and my crew and tycho went to a class a planet then while we were on it the borg came in the millions! we managed to rescue 200 pepole but thats all we could fit on the ship this is a fleet emergency!!!!!!!!!!

tycho
08-20-2008, 04:25 PM
I was there as comander of the USS Vector Yacht class we need all the help we can get

CPT_Hovgaard
08-20-2008, 10:02 PM
I would like to join the fleet, what do i have to do in order to sign up.

Daggaroth
08-21-2008, 12:15 AM
go to the website www.shadowfleet.webs.com and fill out the sign up form.

JSM3050
08-21-2008, 12:17 AM
I beat you to it with a PM, Daggaroth. ;)

Welcome to the Fleet, CPT_Hovgaard! :)

Daggaroth
08-21-2008, 12:17 AM
welcome to the fleet =)

TheHybrid
08-21-2008, 06:45 AM
glad to have you aboard!

huntmilo1995
08-21-2008, 07:04 AM
welcome to the fleet =)

tycho
08-21-2008, 05:35 PM
welcome to the fleet CPT_Hovgaard

Daggaroth
08-22-2008, 04:02 PM
if anyone is interested in joining Shadow Fleet. please visit www.shadowfleet.webs.com to sign up, we are looking for friendly, intelligent, and active people who are willing to help this fleet grow once STO goes live. our goals are to do text based roleplaying on our website once we have enough money to pay for the premium stuff on the website. and because we will be actively doing stuff as a a fleet, we will be more then a bunch of people who signed up for a fleet because they liked the name once STO goes live. we will be a family who knows each other to some degree already. and we will be able to work better then some of the other fleets that are just getting names for when the game goes live

TheHybrid
08-24-2008, 08:27 PM
We WILL work better than the other fleets!

Daggaroth
08-24-2008, 10:18 PM
=) welcome to the fleet hybrid

Fencer8
08-25-2008, 01:39 AM
Hmmmm ... Well their are several people I know that will not join until the romulans are in and they seem to think that hunting you down is going to be quite fun . I remain interested in both sides of the equation and want to see the game first .

darkapprentice95
08-25-2008, 09:54 AM
i registered on shadowfleet.com and was accepted and i am proud to be a part of the team :)

JSM3050
08-25-2008, 09:57 AM
Welcome to the Fleet, darkapprentice95! :)

TheHybrid
08-25-2008, 08:58 PM
Welcome to the Fleet!

tycho
08-26-2008, 09:30 AM
Welcome to the fleet darkapprentice95

Jezebel1669
08-26-2008, 12:26 PM
How's the plan for the text-based roleplay going? Got enough fundage for the premium package on the site yet?

JSM3050
08-26-2008, 02:22 PM
How's the plan for the text-based roleplay going? Got enough fundage for the premium package on the site yet?I asked Daggaroth about that. He said that the forums come as part of the website and that he just hasn't had time to set them up (busy with real life stuff apparently). He said the money was to fund additional bandwidth and the chatroom features.

Jezebel1669
08-26-2008, 03:46 PM
Drop me a line as soon as they're up and running. I'd love to join it once the whole story can be reread.

Check out the link in my thread for the Halcyon. Smaller scale but looking to be running smoothly.

Daggaroth
08-26-2008, 06:35 PM
I am pleased to announce that the U.S.S Kitsap and her technical specs have been added to the main website, and text based roleplaying will commince soon, we still need a Helmsmen, a chief medical and chief science officer, as well as a tactical officer. so please join now and be apart of this great ship.


roleplaying will take place once the Kitsap has a full crew and we have found a time that we can meet regularly. i will post more updates soon.

tycho
08-26-2008, 07:13 PM
just looked at the updated shadowfleet website and i have to say its looking good :D
cant wait till we get the text based rpg going

JSM3050
08-26-2008, 10:48 PM
It looks like Daggaroth has gotten a chatroom up and running for the Kitsap.

TheHybrid
08-29-2008, 07:17 AM
New Avatar's for shadow fleet!

JSM3050
08-29-2008, 09:16 AM
New Avatar's for shadow fleet!*Looks at your avatar* Captain?! That means you out-rank me now... sir.

So where do we find them for ourselves?

TheHybrid
08-29-2008, 02:20 PM
Doh! My bad sir, just got excited :)

huntmilo1995
08-29-2008, 05:01 PM
sry i havint been on a while oh and good updates on the the shawdow fleet site

Jezebel1669
09-01-2008, 02:38 PM
For those of you who are interested JadeEnigma's created a Wiki just for user content based on STO. The Star Trek Online Geekipedia (http://www.stogeek.com/wiki/Main_Page)'s now open for business, feel free to come over and add your character, ships, planets, favourite pet tribbles, etc, etc, etc.

Daggaroth
09-04-2008, 10:33 PM
small graphical update for the website.. new Banner on top =) looks fantastic.

tycho
09-05-2008, 08:32 AM
site is starting to take shape :D
any word on how much longer till the real fun can begin?

Daggaroth
09-07-2008, 11:00 PM
we only need a few more people, and some more work to be done on the website for us to start roleplaying on the Kitsap. i would say 1 maybe 2 weeks at the most until we can head out.

of course the whole thing would go faster if we had some donations to the website. it would help me personally by unlocking some of the premium features of the web hosting service.

TheHybrid
09-18-2008, 10:03 AM
Website is coming together guys, i'm glad for the release date is sooner than expected. Can't wait to give a little role playing in there too!

Vardus
09-18-2008, 06:02 PM
Good Evening fellow officers!
I am Captain Daemon Vardus, Of the U.S.S. Knight Hammer. I have offered my services on the official page, and look forward to your decision. Whether my ship joins your fleet or not, i wish you all a safe journey, and i will definitely see you "Out There".

-Captain Vardus

Vardus
09-19-2008, 03:43 PM
Now that my crew and i are officially a part of the team, i will be joining the fleet soon. Once i have made a few stops first that is. My ship is very unique, so i will give you all a proper introduction soon.

*Update* Thanks to the help of Hybrid, i may have a picture of my ship very soon. I will keep you all posted as it progresses Thank You again Hybrid, for all your help.

tycho
09-21-2008, 06:12 PM
welcome Vardus to the fleet

Vardus
09-22-2008, 11:44 AM
Thank you! I am truly looking forward to working with such a fine group of officers,

TheHybrid
09-22-2008, 11:50 AM
Welcome to the Fleet!

Vardus
09-22-2008, 12:01 PM
I appreciate it!

Hybrid, did you get my last email with the pictures and descriptions?

Merchanter
09-22-2008, 06:59 PM
Just submitted my application.

Vardus
09-23-2008, 03:40 AM
Hopefully i can Give you the Official Welcome soon! May i ask in what capacity are applying for the fleet?

TheHybrid
09-23-2008, 06:31 AM
Welcome to the Merchanter! Captian_Vardus, i did get your email. Things have been hectic at work, but i think i can come up with some blue prints.

Vardus
09-23-2008, 07:37 AM
Lol. I got your E-Mail right after the post. But cool deal, take your time. I appreciate the help.

Merchanter
09-23-2008, 12:08 PM
It is my disire to work AS AN ENGINEER, AND HOPEFULLY, eventually command a research and construction station.

Vardus
09-23-2008, 12:38 PM
Well then,
Daggaroth should be updating the main page with the info on my ship soon. In the mean time however, i am looking at possible officer postings for my command crew. This way i have a jumpstart come time to have the sign up section on the web page. She is in need of a total of five Cheif engineers actually. A little complicated to explain obviously, but if you are interested once you have recieved your acceptance. I can drop you the specs and background of The Knight Hammer. This way you will know what it is you may be getting yourself into. Good Luck, and i look forward to hearing from you.

CaptianKillerScooby
09-23-2008, 12:41 PM
When will the game come on line and do you Have to pay for any thing?

CaptianKillerScooby
09-23-2008, 12:42 PM
Well then,
Daggaroth should be updating the main page with the info on my ship soon. In the mean time however, i am looking at possible officer postings for my command crew. This way i have a jumpstart come time to have the sign up section on the web page. She is in need of a total of five Cheif engineers actually. A little complicated to explain obviously, but if you are interested once you have recieved your acceptance. I can drop you the specs and background of The Knight Hammer. This way you will know what it is you may be getting yourself into. Good Luck, and i look forward to hearing from you. Hello How do I get started on the game?

CaptianKillerScooby
09-23-2008, 12:44 PM
Well then,
Daggaroth should be updating the main page with the info on my ship soon. In the mean time however, i am looking at possible officer postings for my command crew. This way i have a jumpstart come time to have the sign up section on the web page. She is in need of a total of five Cheif engineers actually. A little complicated to explain obviously, but if you are interested once you have recieved your acceptance. I can drop you the specs and background of The Knight Hammer. This way you will know what it is you may be getting yourself into. Good Luck, and i look forward to hearing from you.
Anybody here?

Vardus
09-23-2008, 12:51 PM
Yep, i could be considered present,

Jezebel1669
09-23-2008, 01:43 PM
When will the game come on line and do you Have to pay for any thing?Hello How do I get started on the game?Anybody here?The game's not due for release until next autumn (or fall for you weird colonials :p)

At the moment they're planning on using the standard subscription package, similar to the one available for games like WoW, MxO and CoH/CoV. You should expect a stripped down 'trial account' option so you won't have to pay before you've at least taken a look at the game.

At the moment we're in the process of gathering intelligence from the various sources both on and offline in order to remain on top of any developments with the game, further information can be gained from visiting the Section 31 website.

Yes, hello, I'm here. :D

Vardus
09-23-2008, 03:04 PM
16 of 69 nailed it on the head there for you Captain Scooby. In this thread we are forming one of the opening guilds/fleets. If you are interested in joining us, i'd recommend you check out our website. Daggaroth has the link on the first page of the thread.

avatarinfinate
09-24-2008, 11:42 AM
general question as far as how the fleet operates: if your fleet members don't generally congregate unless gathering for a mission so as to remain in the shadows, how are you going to maintain a fleet headquarters such as an outpost or starbase?

redfordsto
09-24-2008, 02:47 PM
Avatar makes a good point. How can your guild work if only one or two people know who everyone is? And surely you'll be exposed once you do large missions together. I'm not hating; just curious how you'd address those types of problems with respect to the game dynamic stated thus far for guilds.

Jezebel1669
09-24-2008, 03:06 PM
The way I see it working would be for members of Section 31 to join a different fleet, reporting information back through their handlers and taking on additional directives from their true commanders whenever on mission for the host fleet. Just think about how it worked in the show Alias.

Vardus
09-24-2008, 06:33 PM
I have to say that probably makes the most sense. Which would make the web page a key piece to hold us together.

avatarinfinate
09-25-2008, 06:33 AM
Thanks for the input 16 of 69. That's what I thought would have to happen considering the nature of the game. So Section 31 would be like an intelligence branch of another fleet doing infiltration missions and such. Because having a whole fleet of people who can't be seen together unless they're doing a mission if the fleet has a starbase and a shipyard to defend against pvp Klingon fleets.

redfordsto
09-25-2008, 11:05 AM
I'm glad there's a rough plan or procedure for the problems avatar rose because when he first asked it crushed my hopes a little bit. The idea of a fleet that acted in secret sounded pretty awesome. I even went to the Section 31 forum and asked them how they planned to deal with secrecy in light of having a base station someplace and the answer I got was "carefully." Which means they either hadn't thought of how to run a base and keep their anonymity or the they already have a solution and are keeping it within their ranks, which actually fits there theme. So, either way, I hope it works out because the premise looks like fun.

Jezebel1669
09-25-2008, 01:14 PM
...I even went to the Section 31 forum and asked them how they planned to deal with secrecy in light of having a base station someplace and the answer I got was "carefully." Which means they either hadn't thought of how to run a base and keep their anonymity or the they already have a solution and are keeping it within their ranks...They probably want to keep things like operational details to themselves. Wouldn't want an outsider knowing all about the secret drop sites and shapeshifting hull decals now, would we? :p

Vardus
09-26-2008, 04:06 AM
So Daggaroth,
What do you think about all of this? Should we officially join other fleets, and keep our true assignment secret. Using the web pages and probably a friends list (once the game is running) to keep organized. Or remain with just this one. Let us know your thoughts on this.

tycho
09-26-2008, 06:13 AM
honestly i think since its just a game that we should stick together but also being in other fleets has its own atvantages. But truly cant say one will work better for the other which leaves me with this, yes we should have our own fleet but we could have a few to several people with different fleets so we could have eyes and ears withen different fleets.

so we would choose 4 or 5 or so people to join the top (populare) 4 or 5 fleets currently, while everyone else will be with shadow fleet. but yet again i would like to see what Daggaroth has to say first.

TheHybrid
09-26-2008, 07:35 AM
yes, and Blast the forum for deleted my quick quote so i have to type it all over again. lol.

I agree with you Tycho. I also think that because Dagg wanted a smaller fleet, with members who are knowledgeable in the game and MMOs, that we'll be one of the better fleets in the game because we'll all know each other how we act, what our strength and weaknesses are. Still, i think it's about creating one of the best fleets in STO, whether or not we know the activities of other fleets is secondary to our what we make out of Shadow Fleet. I'd like our fleet to be the best in the game, whatever means neccisary to get to that, I'll do what ever it takes. woot. Time for lunch!

lol

Jezebel1669
09-26-2008, 10:14 AM
I can see there being a 'military' wing and a 'political' wing for the Section. People would either be placed in other fleets as spies, insurgents and saboteurs under the aegis of the political wing or would be manning advanced starships used to respond to targets of opportunity presented by the fifth columnists.

Can you imagine a fleet of ships moving to engage a Section 31 base only to have their equipment suddenly start to fail and formerly friendly ships suddenly switch sides, whether because they were sleeper agents or because they've been seduced to the 'dark side'?

Vardus
09-26-2008, 11:18 AM
I think both ideas have merrit.

-The idea of having the fleet be an un-official one that has been organized in secret. Whlie it's captains act as sleeper agents in other fleets, waiting to be activated. This flows with the theme of The Shadow Fleet.

-The idea of acting as a visiablly organized fleet, working to be the best in STO. Is a more game oriented concept.

They both seem like good ways to go, but in the end it's up to Daggaroth.

Jezebel1669
09-26-2008, 11:35 AM
The problem with only being a hidden fleet with all the operatives undercover in other fleets is the inability to have our own bases and facilities. If we had the dual operation then the 'official' Shadow Fleet would be able to maintain the starbases and shipyards, as well as giving us a tool to act against targets identified by the 'unofficial' members without them having to break their covers.

If the only way we had to act against our enemies was to call in the shadows then people would quickly notice the members of supposedly separate fleets acting together and once they do the covers would be gone.

Vardus
09-26-2008, 01:06 PM
Yep, so the only way to have any cover operatives at all in a game like this (Since there is no real way to kill the witness), is to have them be on friends lists or E-Mail lists only. This way they communicate with the Fleet Admiral, but seemingly have no other contact.

Jezebel1669
09-26-2008, 06:23 PM
Yep, so the only way to have any cover operatives at all in a game like this (Since there is no real way to kill the witness), is to have them be on friends lists or E-Mail lists only. This way they communicate with the Fleet Admiral, but seemingly have no other contact.Or set up a secure website off of the game which could be used to share intel covertly.

fighterking
09-27-2008, 07:46 AM
Thanks for letting me join

Vardus
09-27-2008, 08:26 AM
Welcome Fighterking! Always a pleasure to have a kindred spirit on the team.

So the only way to really make this concept work is to go with you suggestion from earlier. Have the fleet actually be just large enough to get the starbases and make things happen. While having deep cover agents giving intel through a secured website. These agents can still help in fleet missions, just not in a visiable regularity. Like in other MMO's, people from different guilds work together when it is advantageous for them to do so.

tycho
09-28-2008, 08:44 AM
welcome fighterking to the fleet

i weve made some interesting and exciting ideas about how to run our fleet but its up to Dagg to decide so i want to see what he thinks about all of this

caliprius83
09-28-2008, 11:59 PM
I wish to serve the shadow fleet. I will serve it in any way that is deemed necessary of me my ship and my crew. I wish to fight the good and dirty fight on the front lines and behind the lines in order to protect the federation and its people. I plan to fly a defiant class ship as a recon/ sabotage duty ship, i also plan if possible to acquire a Klingon bird of prey, for the most stealth possible. on the defiant class ship i plan to load it heavily with stealth and weapon systems
thank you for taking the time to look at this transmission.

Jezebel1669
09-29-2008, 08:20 AM
I wish to fight the good and dirty fight...Why do people always think assassination and sabotage are dirty? They're certainly a lot less b|oody than the alternative.

Trocisp
09-29-2008, 08:24 AM
As Daggorath asked, I've set up a forum for Shadow Fleet personnel at this location (http://federationfleet.com), you'll have to register and verify that you are who you say you are with Daggorath when he registers, to gain access to that specific subforum.

TheHybrid
09-29-2008, 10:27 AM
Welcome to the fleet williamtryker and flighterking!

I think section 31 can run a starbase under normal federation laws and ethics. Members of section 31 will be incharge of the starbase posing as another federation outpost or starbase. but when the time comes, the starbase is under the control of section 31 and thus, it can be used as a base of operations for Shadow Fleet!

X1234
09-30-2008, 10:42 AM
Im intreged by this "Shadow Fleet" but Im confussed Is it mainly focesed on Stealth or is it a genral clan?

origanly posted by Jezebel1669
"Why do people always think assassination and sabotage are dirty? They're certainly a lot less b|oody than the alternative?"
because people are ingnorent

Jezebel1669
09-30-2008, 11:51 AM
Im intreged by this "Shadow Fleet" but Im confussed Is it mainly focesed on Stealth or is it a genral clan?We're still debating that. At the moment I'm on favour of both, two fleets with one the official Shadow Fleet acting openly as a standard 'guild' in game with all their own stations and ships and whatever else can be controlled by a fleet while a second unofficial Section 31 type infiltration wing act behind the scenes as members of other fleets reporting back any important intelligence and manipulating their host fleet in the best interests of the Shadows.

We'd have to set up a secure website outside the game, a network of email contacts or some other way to communicate information and orders between the different branches, preferably with a double blind system so that the undercover operatives would have no idea who their CO really was in game.

Vardus
09-30-2008, 01:03 PM
Which would be pretty sweet if that pans out in the way we would like. It's all dependent on Daggaroth.

Jezebel1669
09-30-2008, 01:20 PM
Which would be pretty sweet if that pans out in the way we would like. It's all dependent on Daggaroth.Unless Daggaroth were to have an 'accident' late one night and have to be replaced by someone cuter. :D

caliprius83
09-30-2008, 03:42 PM
Why do people always think assassination and sabotage are dirty? They're certainly a lot less b|oody than the alternative.

I meant no offense mam*stands at attention* assassination is some times necessary and always a much less ****** affair, but it is also dirty, many times at least. so i must request your forgiveness.

Vardus
09-30-2008, 04:58 PM
You know it's very cold in open space. It would be a shame if he forgot to dress warmly ;)

Jezebel1669
09-30-2008, 05:40 PM
I meant no offense mam*stands at attention* assassination is some times necessary and always a much less ****** affair, but it is also dirty, many times at least. so i must request your forgiveness.So one well placed rifle round, a single car bomb or a glassful of poisoned wine is dirtier than 25,000 soldiers charging across a piece of bombed out farmland towards another 25,000 soldiers?

caliprius83
09-30-2008, 07:28 PM
So one well placed rifle round, a single car bomb or a glassful of poisoned wine is dirtier than 25,000 soldiers charging across a piece of bombed out farmland towards another 25,000 soldiers?

well the assassination part is probably cleaner, but what about the sabotage that will be necessary occasionally, the destruction of a star base far behind enemy lines, a virtual suicide mission in and of its self. the few for the many, the many being our side, and the few being myself and the strike team/fleet. so it can be messy but its better then the mass of soldiers running head long into battle. or a raid against a cargo fleet bringing parts or supplies to an enemy fleet. all these are the dirty side of what we do but for the federation i would be more then happy to do them.

Vardus
09-30-2008, 08:18 PM
Lets keep thing in perspective shall we. When faced with weapons such as thr Reman Warbird Scimitar, equall and opposite reactions become necessary. If we simply play nice, we simply die.

caliprius83
09-30-2008, 09:37 PM
Lets keep thing in perspective shall we. When faced with weapons such as thr Reman Warbird Scimitar, equall and opposite reactions become necessary. If we simply play nice, we simply die.

Agreed, and i shall be willing to either be the hammer or the anvil. we must protect the federation at all costs. I feel that we not only need equal actions but greater ones.

Jezebel1669
10-01-2008, 04:20 AM
When faced with weapons such as thr Reman Warbird Scimitar, equall and opposite reactions become necessary.But it doesn't. A single operative standing behind the commander onboard the Scimitar would be enough to counter the entire vessel if used at the right moment. No need for planet destroying thalaron weapons if the person with his finger on the button doesn't get a chance to press it.

Of course once we've eliminated the threat we couldn't leave such a weapon lying around for someone else to use...

Grey_Knight
10-01-2008, 04:22 AM
Battles are heavy on the mind and body, assassination is heavy on the soul.
You can try to rationalize the reasons for both, but they will always plague you.

Jezebel1669
10-01-2008, 05:50 AM
You can try to rationalize the reasons for both, but they will always plague you.Especially if the assassination involved the release of a genetically engineered virus. :D

X1234
10-01-2008, 07:13 AM
Ltc Grave
ergw

caliprius83
10-01-2008, 09:21 AM
join this site
http://federationfleet.com/

Vardus
10-01-2008, 03:10 PM
Unfortunately the reality of what we do is well explained by the Operative of the Parliment from Serenity. In that movie he describes himself as a monster. That he is doing what is necessary to protect the alliances way of life. Though in doing so he will never get to be a part of that very world he loves so much. He has a clarity of purpose that makes him a very dangerous man. He will go to any length to achieve his mission, because for him the ends always justify the means. "Secrets are not my concern doctor! Keeping them is!"

Jezebel1669
10-01-2008, 04:00 PM
"Secrets are not my concern doctor! Keeping them is!"Which is his mistake. Knowledge is power, when you have no secrets of your own and all the secrets of your enemies then you truely control the universe.

Great film BTW, shame they didn't get to make the series.

zjford
10-01-2008, 04:30 PM
i am kick ass i have never benn defeated and i kill anything i see that is our enemy so if u let me join your doing the right thing

Vardus
10-01-2008, 05:38 PM
Zjford,
Check out the link on the first page of the thread. You can apply on that page. Good luck sir.

16 of 69, I agree with the knowledge is power concept. But in his case and in a way his defense,He had a true faith about his purpose and mission. The details to him were inconsequencial. Which made him exactly what he was. A very dangerous tool of controll. So in that was his power, and his loyalty ensured his access to anything he could ever dream. Once he saw the light as it were, he lost it all (at that point i'm sure he wished he kept a few of those secrets though) ;) . But the point is, his faith in what he was doing was so strong, that power meant nothing to him. His life was for the alliance, with out hesitation. And in that belief was his power. A man who will not hesitate to do what ever it takes (up to and including his own death), can accomplish anything.

I too wsih they would use the movie to springboard another series, or at least another movie!

Jezebel1669
10-01-2008, 06:56 PM
A man who will not hesitate to do what ever it takes (up to and including his own death), can accomplish anything.But he was nothing. In and of himself he'd handed his life over to the Alliance. He had no idea why it was he did the things he was ordered to do and it would never have considered asking. He had no power apart from that which was given to him by his masters, he was a tool, a weapon and an object but nothing more than that.

Only when you have all the facts and you know your place in the universe and you're the one who chooses to take action, whether ordered to or not, do you have true power.

I too wsih they would use the movie to springboard another series, or at least another movie!I wish they'd been able to make the series that was squashed down into the film. There was so much more going on than we got to see and it such a shame we didn't get to see it. :)

caliprius83
10-01-2008, 08:36 PM
Unfortunately the reality of what we do is well explained by the Operative of the Parliment from Serenity. In that movie he describes himself as a monster. That he is doing what is necessary to protect the alliances way of life. Though in doing so he will never get to be a part of that very world he loves so much. He has a clarity of purpose that makes him a very dangerous man. He will go to any length to achieve his mission, because for him the ends always justify the means. "Secrets are not my concern doctor! Keeping them is!"

I agree in part with the sentiment of this quote. because it will ultimately be up to our superiors to give us the missions, but it is up to us to get the best information, by what ever means necessary. thus we must be the hammer striking the anvil and the fly on the perverbial wall to gather the information that we must gather.

2nd we should all go to the lovely site that has been set up for us.
http://federationfleet.com/ it is nice since we have our own forum on there which only fleet members can access and view.

X1234
10-02-2008, 08:44 AM
Prehaps, but the mind is weak and the mind of a shadow is......unstable to say the least always fearfull of being found out or killed one lives in a constant state of paranoia, and silent comitment. So is one truly to know why we tolerate an existance so hidden and far gone as ours? whos to say......

TheHybrid
10-02-2008, 12:56 PM
Welcome Everyone new! Pretty deep convo you guys, Serenity is a great series. Seems that he wanted to keep order, and the only way to do that was to keep secrets which in turn control the information. Information is power, knowing what you're enemy will do next so you can counter is key. He kept secrets, but they got out because of the unpredictability of the human sprit, in the sense that it's our drive and quest for knowledge that won't stop us in the end. Grrr the networt for not giving Joss another season!

caliprius83
10-04-2008, 08:40 PM
Hey all cant wait to get into the game, this seems like ti will be an awesome clan.
Register on our forum site http://federationfleet.com/index.php?sid=d45474cd2d8dc82d35d6bdf57a57a165
it is fairly active and growing.
cant wait to see you all in the game
lets make shadow fleet the best one in star fleet. lets reach the 50 member mark so sound off if your for shadow fleet
ONE!!!!!:D

Jezebel1669
10-05-2008, 06:05 AM
TWO!!!!! :D

I'm already up on the forum, drop by to check out some of the threads I've started.

Vardus
10-06-2008, 10:13 AM
William,
The forum has kept me locked out for over a week now. I sent an e-mail, but have had no response.

Jezebel1669
10-06-2008, 02:48 PM
I had the same problem, waiting for Dag to give authorisation.

tycho
10-07-2008, 06:49 AM
im having the same promplems as Vardus and Jezebel1669 with not having authorization in the forum

caliprius83
10-07-2008, 09:50 AM
I have been trying to get authorization to be a moderator so i can authorize members of shadow fleet to that part of the sight.
so hopefully if i keep bugging him he will alow it .
good luck and cant wait to see you all on their.
http://federationfleet.com/ the link to the sight

caliprius83
10-07-2008, 12:50 PM
Hey all any one else been having problems logging into the fleet forum page?

Jezebel1669
10-07-2008, 01:31 PM
I am, just getting an error message when trying to get to the site page. Looks like it's been taken down.

caliprius83
10-07-2008, 01:48 PM
I hope that its not permanently taken down... :(

Jezebel1669
10-07-2008, 02:32 PM
Me neither. I want people to get to see all the dirty pictures I posted up on the secure threads. :D

caliprius83
10-07-2008, 03:31 PM
any one know if the sight is down just for maint or what.....

Nakren
10-08-2008, 07:05 AM
Hello, I am new to the Shadow Fleet, and wanted to get my name known. Can not wait to 'work' with y'all, sounds like... fun!

caliprius83
10-08-2008, 07:51 AM
welcome hopefully we shall fight the glorious fight

TheHybrid
10-08-2008, 02:17 PM
Welcome to the Fleet Nakren! Just checked the link myself, it was working 3 or four days ago. I hope it gets fixed. :)

tardisrosedalek
10-08-2008, 03:18 PM
I wish to serve in the Shadow Fleet!

Vardus
10-08-2008, 04:46 PM
Welcome everyone. I look forward to working with you all.

caliprius83
10-08-2008, 06:11 PM
hey vardus, what kind of ship is that in your picture

Niorah_Aiya
10-08-2008, 06:24 PM
Greetings how does the unknown fleet find itself today, good i hope.

caliprius83
10-08-2008, 06:26 PM
we find our self in existence, as far as no one knows

Jar-Hamel_Shran
10-08-2008, 06:38 PM
Hi, Captain Jar Hamel (female/andorian) reporting to join the Shadow Fleet, hope I am in the right place, was chatting with Agent73 earlier and he suggested requesting joining the Shadowfleet here, versus on the site (due to the forum being down). Let me know if you have other requirements.

TheHybrid
10-09-2008, 10:46 AM
Rock On newest members! It will be a pleasure to work with you all. :)

Jezebel1669
10-09-2008, 11:33 AM
Let me know if you have other requirements.Female Andorian? In that case we'd like to see some biometric data for identification purposes. Full body photos should do the trick. :D

Jar-Hamel_Shran
10-09-2008, 11:59 AM
Would the suffice ?
http://renderosity.com/mod/gallery/media/folder_165/file_1648565.jpg

caliprius83
10-09-2008, 12:42 PM
wow them blue skined aliens is sorta hot ...

TheHybrid
10-09-2008, 01:57 PM
I'm more about the Grey Girl from Farscape, but, the Andorians might have something going for them. :)

Jar-Hamel_Shran
10-09-2008, 02:59 PM
What ? her ?

To each their own taste (http://www.magnetictimes.com/images/uploads/gigi-edgley-chiana-farscape.jpg)

tycho
10-09-2008, 07:28 PM
huh idk i guess im old school for still just liking normal human girls but oh well

to each their own . . . i guess the saying goes

Vardus
10-10-2008, 10:53 AM
William,
The Class of Ship is Cheyenne Class. It was the Modern Replacement for the Constellation class in the Next Generation. Unfortunately it was only refered to twice. The first time, it was part of the Tachyon detection grid in the two part Redemption episode. It was later shown as one of the victims at Wolf 359. I just like the look of her for some reason.

TheHybrid
10-10-2008, 11:25 AM
Lol, yeah Chianna, maybe this (http://www.clintweb.co.uk/random/Gigi_Edgley_001.jpg) is a better picture.

Vardus
10-10-2008, 01:05 PM
Mmmmmmmm Nice!

X1234
10-15-2008, 07:42 AM
Whats up with you people:D
P.s. has anyone heard from are leder recently?

TheHybrid
10-15-2008, 08:45 AM
Last I heard, Dagg sent out an email encouraging us to keep posting to get more ppls to sign up. He also mentioned that he was really busy and when he had time, he was going to sit down and hash out the nitty gritty details.

Vardus
10-15-2008, 04:02 PM
That is what i heard as well. But it was a week or two ago!

Devlin22
10-17-2008, 01:15 AM
hey,i wud very much lyk 2 join yr fleet?

tycho
10-17-2008, 07:52 AM
you can go to the shadow fleet website http://shadowfleet.webs.com and register there

Daggaroth
10-17-2008, 06:58 PM
Hello all

Daggaroth here, the Fleet admiral of shadow fleet.

i wanted to apologize for not of being around lately. real life has been packed. but i wanted to let you know my time is about to free up a bit more and i am hoping to organize some stuff for the members of shadow fleet to get involved in. i have imployed a minor update to the website, and we will also have some forums once a error has been fixed in the database.

i would like to invite anyone who is also interested in joining our fine fleet to go to the website and sign up. and i promise that i will be more active in the near future once real life becomes a bit more manageable.


i also would like to thank each and every person who has donated money to the website, i have used it to increase the space on the server and i am going to be filling it with details for our other ships very soon.


i also plan to revise the way we do our text based role-playing very soon. DETAILS TO COME!

Vardus
10-18-2008, 02:49 PM
Great to hear from you sir! I'm sure we all look forward to the updates.

Thank you for all that you do,
Vardus

Jezebel1669
10-18-2008, 02:56 PM
So does this mean the mutiny's off then? *quickly hides the bat'leth and whetstone under the sofa*

Vardus
10-18-2008, 03:49 PM
No, no, no, no, now's not the time!

Don't mind her sir! She's just drunk, that's all!:)

Jezebel1669
10-19-2008, 01:53 AM
What? Oh yeah, right...

Oww, my head hurts... Oh no, a neural parasite's attached to my back making me say crazy thing!

X1234
10-21-2008, 07:07 AM
"puts his thermel detinator away"......

TheHybrid
10-21-2008, 08:36 AM
Welcome to the Fleet Devlin22!

Vardus
10-21-2008, 09:58 AM
Wow, there is a pulse in here once again!

Jezebel1669
10-21-2008, 10:25 AM
And you know how I feel about people with pulses. :D

Vardus
10-21-2008, 10:28 AM
And you know how I feel about people with pulses. :D

Thats one of those comments that just make you go hmmmmmmmmmm.

Merchanter
10-22-2008, 11:01 AM
Hi everyone
Almost back.Glad to see everything and everyone still going strong. Please take cane and will Yak at you more fully later.

(And do not rip any muscles. (it hurts))

seventodark
10-22-2008, 01:04 PM
This looks really instresting

X1234
10-23-2008, 07:22 AM
I wonder when the forms will go up....
>Welcome new people!!!!

Trsmash
10-23-2008, 09:03 AM
I would like to join the crew captain!!!

TheHybrid
10-23-2008, 10:05 AM
Welcome GamerT! you can sign up at my link below.

Vardus
10-23-2008, 11:33 AM
I am Glad to see some activity here in the fleet. I would expect that once Dagg has gotten through his Mundane issues, we should hopefully see some real expansion.

Daggaroth
10-24-2008, 03:55 PM
thanks all for the concern and for keeping this thread active even while i am not around... i am working with some of my friends to figure out how to input a browser based IRC chat. to help streamline the text based RP aspect of the fleet.

i am currently in my finals week so once it is over i will have a good few days of calm ( before a new storm hits) and i plan on focusing on doing some major updates to the website. hopefully inputting the IRC client i was talking about.. and also adding the details for the U.S.S Valor onto the main website.

if anyone has any ideas for the website feel free to email me at Romulan9822@yahoo.com

and as always if you want to join the fleet you can go to our website.

www.shadowfleet.webs.com

oh and as for forums ill put something up in a few days so we dont have to use this forum all the time. =P although i dont mind it because it gets our name out there.haha.

Jezebel1669
10-24-2008, 04:00 PM
Have you considered posting something up about the fleet over on the Wikia?
http://www.stogeek.com/wiki/Main_Page

Trsmash
10-24-2008, 09:17 PM
When I put in my application it says that my email is not valid. Any help would be appreciated.

TheHybrid
10-26-2008, 09:13 AM
Good to hear from you Dagg. Good luck on your finals, i know how much of a pain they are.

TrekFan
10-26-2008, 03:57 PM
There is already an RPG fleet called Shadow Fleet. You can find it at:

http://www.shadowfleet.org/forum

We are always looking for new members, especially experienced simmers who can hold senior command positions on a ship within the fleet. We currently have one fully functional ship and station with another station on the way shortly. We are looking into starting up another ship simm, the USS Apollo, soon also, but we need more members to be able to do this.

If you would like to join get yourself along to http://www.shadowfleet.org/forum now and sign up! Once you have signed up proceed to the "New Users" board under the category "Personnel".

Thanks! See ya there!

TrekFan

a.k.a
Cpt. John Kawolsky, Commanding Officer, USS Discovery (NCC 78393-A)
Fleet Personnel Officer, Shadow Fleet

Daggaroth
10-26-2008, 05:37 PM
i do believe this is the first shadow fleet as i started it the DAY these forums opened.

and i was running a simming shadow fleet back in 2004

tycho
10-26-2008, 06:51 PM
That’s just not right trying to go get people to leave one fleet to join another after they use the same name . . . what is this world coming to.

And nice to see Daggaroth on plus I hope you did/do well on our finals i know those things can be killers.

Daggaroth
10-26-2008, 11:09 PM
i did... i passed my class with a solid B =)

im still waiting to hear back from my other class but i know i passed it.

and in the next day or two i am going to try and get us atleast some forums.

StarTrekDude08
10-27-2008, 12:10 AM
Actually, TrekFans Shadowfleet was here FIRST. Go on the site and have a look at the mission databases. You will see over 50 20 page missions extending back over 10 years, thats right, YEARS and over 40 characters.

Edit: Here are the mission logs: http://www.shadowfleet.org/forum/index.php/board,30.0.html

Come and have a look, and join up so we can expand our fleet.

http://www.shadowfleet.org/forum/index.php

and this is Shadowfleets official Wiki.

http://ussdiscovery.wikia.com/wiki/USS_Discovery_Wiki

Shelaf Greegy
Master Chief Petty officer and Chief of the Boat USS Discovery-A

X1234
10-27-2008, 07:24 AM
Maby nut that is all text based and this "Shadow Fleet" is for the game (when ever it comes out that is)

Edit: and if theres so much contriversty why not combine the two fleets into a all new Shadow Fleet!:D

StarTrekDude08
10-28-2008, 12:27 AM
Maby nut that is all text based and this "Shadow Fleet" is for the game (when ever it comes out that is)

Edit: and if theres so much contriversty why not combine the two fleets into a all new Shadow Fleet!:D

Or, you could join both :)