View Full Version : Voice Chat is a must for STO
Ghangi
10-20-2009, 10:45 PM
Im not sure if this has been covered or not but how is that chat system going to work? Will we be able to hail (voice chat) with other players starships or is voice chat limited to group or fleet interaction?
Arokh72
10-20-2009, 10:47 PM
"Sorry Captain there seems to be silence from Cryptic Communications"
Rakos
10-20-2009, 10:49 PM
"Sorry Captain there seems to be silence from Cryptic Communications"
"Well boost power dammit, we need an answer."
Arokh72
10-20-2009, 10:51 PM
"Well boost power dammit, we need an answer."
"I cannae do it sir, we just don't have the power" (sorry couldn't help it)
karl-just-karl
10-20-2009, 10:52 PM
"They're hearing us, sir. They are choosing not to answer."
Rakos
10-20-2009, 10:54 PM
"Well, there's only one thing left to do. Prepare for saucer separation."
Sublime
10-20-2009, 10:57 PM
Example of what would happen if video chat were included in the game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT3zQdFIBa4
Huutini
10-20-2009, 11:21 PM
Im not sure if this has been covered or not but how is that chat system going to work? Will we be able to hail (voice chat) with other players starships or is voice chat limited to group or fleet interaction?
The game will probably not have voice chat, but you can still use some external chat-program.
Edit: Missed a 'you'. :)
Rakos
10-20-2009, 11:23 PM
The game will probably not have voice chat, but can still use some external chat-program.
Even if it does, Vent or TS3(if it exists).
I believe the Russian article said there would not be voice chat. But like a previous person said, there is no reason you cannot use a third party one.
briank741
10-20-2009, 11:27 PM
"Well, there's only one thing left to do. Prepare for saucer separation."
Just don't let Counselor Troi drive the saucer when you separate the ships. You know how she likes to wreck the ships.
Azurian
10-20-2009, 11:29 PM
Yes, that Russian Article did say there isn't going to be a voice chat, but we were told earlier there was. So we are waiting for Cryptic to clarify.
Rakos
10-20-2009, 11:29 PM
Just don't let Counselor Troi drive the saucer when you separate the ships. You know how she likes to wreck the ships.
Picard goes to the surface for like an hour and see what happens?
thawn4444
10-20-2009, 11:29 PM
Just don't let Counselor Troi drive the saucer when you separate the ships. You know how she likes to wreck the ships.
So your saying all Betazoids are poor saucer drivers?
you. . .you racist!!
;)
Rakos
10-20-2009, 11:30 PM
So your saying all Betazoids are poor saucer drivers?
you. . .you racist!!
;)
I think you misinterpreted, he meant all women are poor saucer drivers.
Arokh72
10-21-2009, 12:22 AM
Look it doesn't help that her sexy bottom was on fire. At a convention shortly after the film Marina Sirits said the embers actually did burn her bum. Sadly she declined my offer to kiss it better...j/k.
Siphaed
10-21-2009, 12:54 AM
Im not sure if this has been covered or not but how is that chat system going to work? Will we be able to hail (voice chat) with other players starships or is voice chat limited to group or fleet interaction?
It would be interesting to have voice chat, but most likely it'll be limited to text chat only just like most MMO games. Besides, how quickly will it get old when people are in a fleet and one of the Engineering captains is yelling "I'm giving her all she's got, Captain!" to the fleet commander.
Peregrine_Falcon
10-21-2009, 01:00 AM
Im not sure if this has been covered or not but how is that chat system going to work? Will we be able to hail (voice chat) with other players starships or is voice chat limited to group or fleet interaction?
Hello, and welcome to the Star Trek Online forums!
While it was mentioned earlier as a possibility, in an interview on October 9th 2009, Daniel Stahl (an STO producer) said, "We’re not going to build yet another integrated voice chat solution. Most of the players that want it already have a better option."
Link to the full interview here. (http://www.mmogaming.ru/modules/ipboard/index.php?showtopic=1794&pid=12076&st=0&#entry12076)
If you'd like more information about STO, you might find these threads helpful:
Ask Cryptic Blog Compilation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=22923)
Dev Chat Transcript Compilation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=27354)
Developer Interviews (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=12530)
Everything we know about STO (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=14535)
STO Video Consolidation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=28328)
You might also want to go here and sign up for beta testing (http://www.startrekonline.com/) if you haven't already done so.
Welcome aboard captain!
Arokh72
10-21-2009, 01:14 AM
Hello, and welcome to the Star Trek Online forums!
While it was mentioned earlier as a possibility, in an interview on October 9th 2009, Daniel Stahl (an STO producer) said, "We’re not going to build yet another integrated voice chat solution. Most of the players that want it already have a better option."
Link to the full interview here. (http://www.mmogaming.ru/modules/ipboard/index.php?showtopic=1794&pid=12076&st=0&#entry12076)
If you'd like more information about STO, you might find these threads helpful:
Ask Cryptic Blog Compilation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=22923)
Dev Chat Transcript Compilation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=27354)
Developer Interviews (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=12530)
Everything we know about STO (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=14535)
STO Video Consolidation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=28328)
You might also want to go here and sign up for beta testing (http://www.startrekonline.com/) if you haven't already done so.
Welcome aboard captain!
Do you have this saved somewhere?
Loekii
10-21-2009, 07:09 AM
I would imagine 'NPC' hails would appear like the BO window thingy we saw in the Pax demos.
As far as Player to player, I think it will be like CO -- just a /tell in chat.
I wouldn't mind being able to assign a SFX to any /tell messages.
And if you /ignore, I think there should be some Star Treky comment saying such, like 'Captain, they are ignoring our Hails'. :p
Admiral-Darren-Wright
10-21-2009, 07:13 AM
Im not sure if this has been covered or not but how is that chat system going to work? Will we be able to hail (voice chat) with other players starships or is voice chat limited to group or fleet interaction?
Zinc has said that VO takes to long and he believes fo rthe money invested they would not get as much for it back, so STO will most likely at least just now be lacking in VO. Like Co is, (even tho i know that VO is not a big task, once the programing is done and the engine is in which it is then adding voices etc which can be done from there own team already on the payroll does not take that long) But well all be able to use teamspeak/GSC/Skype conference etc as we play with our fleets etc.
stratton.haslam
10-21-2009, 07:24 AM
I think we'll see maybe a global text chat system but voice will more than likely be restricted to using 3rd party software (skype, TS, GSC, Ventrillo).
Powerhelm
10-21-2009, 04:24 PM
There are many reason's for Voice Chat in STO.
A: It fits the world - Not many hails come via text...that's like us playing STo Zork style...
B: If at any point the game hopes to have people teaming in it and if it is half as action oriented in combat as CO...it's gonna really hurt to not have built in voice chat.
"Oh my god that's so stupid just use ventrillo!"
Ok. How many of you have your own teamspeak or ventrillo server that you can use any time and give the info out to complete strangers in a game???
I thought so...
How many of you want to have a teammate who goes "Oh you have vent? I have teamspeak" then spend ten minutes arguing over who's gonna download what in order to get everyone on the same footing? Or wait for someone to download and setup one or the other?
I thought so...
LOTRO has an excellent voice chat system. It's totally optional to turn on and off, you have an indicator in the team display telling you who is listening and who isn't and you don't need a mic to at least listen.
In this day and age and with this new wave of more run and gun, action oriented gameplay there's just no time to share advice or warn teammates or give orders/strategize in a fight with text...
Ghangi
10-21-2009, 04:30 PM
this has been discussed many times. I in fact missed some of it and posted about it yesterday. :D
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=29285
Swdsman
10-21-2009, 04:38 PM
Agreed. I would be happy with VOIP in the game if it was just restricted to your party.
Lt-Baba_Booey
10-21-2009, 04:39 PM
Yes its been talked about many times, but still i think an integrated voice chat system would be cool, even if only for ship to ship comms. Sometimes the ingame VC is better than vent or TS and is MUCH more user friendly, EVE online has a great voice chat system built into it, and i find that it comes in much more clear and is much more user friendly than a vent or TS 3rd party program.
But on the other hand i wont loose any sleep if cryptic dosent include this feature with the game.
Ghangi
10-21-2009, 04:42 PM
But on the other hand i wont loose any sleep if cryptic dosent include this feature with the game.
The Game is AWESOME the way it is from what ive seen and im sure it will be even better come release time. :cool:
gair22
10-21-2009, 04:47 PM
I dunno, i'd like to use VOIP between people during hails.
Lt-Baba_Booey
10-21-2009, 04:50 PM
The Game is AWESOME the way it is from what ive seen and im sure it will be even better come release time. :cool:
Lol i agree with you 100% on this one :D
jefftrek
10-21-2009, 04:51 PM
I have to agree that voice is paramount to the success of the game. That being said, when WOW went to voice it was such a disappointment that I continued to use skype or vent for party raids. So if cryptic is going to have some VOIP for STO, I hope they set their standards high and make something that works. If they come up shy like WOW did, I'll just use something else in the background.
Swdsman
10-21-2009, 04:52 PM
If they do add VOIP into the game, I hope it will be Push to Talk instead of always on. As an aside, I've never used TS or Vent. How system intensive are they?
syberghost
10-21-2009, 04:53 PM
Last thing I want is the devs wasting time reinventing the wheel with another incompatible voice chat that most of us would not be able to use anyway, since our guilds all use Vent or TeamSpeak.
Now, if they could license Vent or TeamSpeak code, preferably both, so that we could use our existing servers; OK. Still a waste of development time better spent on something else, but acceptable.
Archangelwoghd
10-21-2009, 04:54 PM
I hope STO doesn't waste bandwidth with such a thing.
And if they do, I hope there's an option to turn it off.
I have absolutely no desire to have my immersion broken by talking to some 13 year old nerd with a pip-squeak voice who sounds nothing like a starship captain. Nor do I expect does that little nerd wish to hear my grizzled condescending grumpy old man voice.
Seriously.
Ghangi
10-21-2009, 05:02 PM
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I have absolutely no desire to have my immersion broken by talking to some 13 year old nerd with a pip-squeak voice who sounds nothing like a starship captain. Nor do I expect does that little nerd wish to hear my grizzled condescending grumpy old man voice.
Seriously.
I think he might be right. unless it could be turned on and off. Maybe i want to hail my friends ship but not be in a group with them. which can be done from an outside program.
cmahecha
10-21-2009, 05:03 PM
I hope STO doesn't waste bandwidth with such a thing.
And if they do, I hope there's an option to turn it off.
I have absolutely no desire to have my immersion broken by talking to some 13 year old nerd with a pip-squeak voice who sounds nothing like a starship captain. Nor do I expect does that little nerd wish to hear my grizzled condescending grumpy old man voice.
Seriously.
Yeah, if it's there fine, but with option to turn it off. English is not my first language, and I do not like speaking in English. I can write all you want, but don't like speaking it.
Although, I guess I could pull an accent like Chekov... Hum... That may be fun.
polynomial
10-21-2009, 05:05 PM
I basically want to be able to say "Open a channel" or "Hailing frequencies open".
Ghangi
10-21-2009, 05:05 PM
Yeah, if it's there fine, but with option to turn it off. English is not my first language, and I do not like speaking in English. I can write all you want, but don't like speaking it.
Although, I guess I could pull an accent like Chekov... Hum... That may be fun.
Thats where the universal translator comes in.....:p
TS3 has a SDK for game developers.
http://www.teamspeak.com/?page=teamspeak3sdk
It does not seem to have been used much yet.
But it could be an option down the road.
Archangelwoghd
10-21-2009, 05:19 PM
I don't even want to go into the problems this could create for certain members of the Handicapped community who may be mute, deaf, or use voice-recognition software.
wolfing
10-21-2009, 05:23 PM
I don't like voip in RPGs, sure I recognize it has good tactical uses, but it totally destroys immersion. Here is an admiral hailing me, let's see what he has to say, must be important... And then a 13 year old voice comes out, yikes. Or a vulcan woman comes out with the voice of Pavarotti... double yikes
Lt-Baba_Booey
10-21-2009, 05:28 PM
If they do add VOIP into the game, I hope it will be Push to Talk instead of always on. As an aside, I've never used TS or Vent. How system intensive are they?
You cant even tell if they are open while you game, they are very resource friendly.
There are many reason's for Voice Chat in STO.
A: It fits the world - Not many hails come via text...that's like us playing STo Zork style...
B: If at any point the game hopes to have people teaming in it and if it is half as action oriented in combat as CO...it's gonna really hurt to not have built in voice chat.
"Oh my god that's so stupid just use ventrillo!"
Ok. How many of you have your own teamspeak or ventrillo server that you can use any time and give the info out to complete strangers in a game???
I thought so...
How many of you want to have a teammate who goes "Oh you have vent? I have teamspeak" then spend ten minutes arguing over who's gonna download what in order to get everyone on the same footing? Or wait for someone to download and setup one or the other?
I thought so...
LOTRO has an excellent voice chat system. It's totally optional to turn on and off, you have an indicator in the team display telling you who is listening and who isn't and you don't need a mic to at least listen.
In this day and age and with this new wave of more run and gun, action oriented gameplay there's just no time to share advice or warn teammates or give orders/strategize in a fight with text...
We do not need to have this in game that is what Vent an Team Speak is for.
Lt-Baba_Booey
10-21-2009, 05:33 PM
I don't even want to go into the problems this could create for certain members of the Handicapped community who may be mute, deaf, or use voice-recognition software.
MMOs are hardly friendly to the handicapped community, i played WoW with a disabled person who used a 3rd party program to play the game and was subsequently banned for botting.......he wasnt botting, he needed the access program to play the game.
tritium4ever
10-21-2009, 05:38 PM
It's hardly a necessity. I mean just look at WoW...for years people had been moaning about the fact that there was no built-in voice chat, and when Blizzard finally added that feature, nobody used it. I'd rather have Cryptic spend the development time on more episodic content instead of a voice comm system that's just going to end up being unused.
Pliskin
10-21-2009, 05:40 PM
We do not need to have this in game that is what Vent an Team Speak is for.
You obviously didn't read what was posted.
So if I join a PUG with you, can i have your vent or team speak info please? password too now.
There's a very very good reason to have in-game chat (not everyone's in a fleet, not everyone joins one, not everyone has a vent server), and people seem to be completely oblivious to the fine points in the original posting.
TFO_KillSwitch
10-21-2009, 05:44 PM
soem of the fleets use a voise chat programe
the furion order uses vintrillo for voise chat
Drexxus3d
10-21-2009, 05:46 PM
Integrated voice chat always sucks
Always.
100% of the time.
Always.
Always. Should I say always a few more times? That is a reality of life, i've used several of them from World of Warcraft's to Planetside's and it is ALWAYS awful. Without fail, every single time. Bad quality, bad lag, stupid setups.
Ventrilo and other 3rd party programs are the best way to go. You can rent a vent server for like $4 a month, thats not much, just think of it like paying $19 a month instead of $15 a month for your monthly subscription fee. It's NOT a lot of money.
In WOW, we give our vent info out all the time for alt pug raids and such, and people are nearly always respectful and considerate. We've never had anyone come on there intentionally try to cause problems, only thing we get is every once in a while we'll get a couple people using our vent to do Arenas or something of that nature. But as vent admin you can kick or outright ban anyone you want locking out their specific ip address or an entire range preventing them from ever coming back, or simply change the password from time to time.
Pliskin
10-21-2009, 05:49 PM
Integrated voice chat always sucks
Always.
100% of the time.
Always.
Always. Should I say always a few more times? That is a reality of life, i've used several of them from World of Warcraft's to Planetside's and it is ALWAYS awful. Without fail, every single time. Bad quality, bad lag, stupid setups.
Ventrilo and other 3rd party programs are the best way to go. You can rent a vent server for like $4 a month, thats not much, just think of it like paying $19 a month instead of $15 a month for your monthly subscription fee. It's NOT a lot of money.
In WOW, we give our vent info out all the time for alt pug raids and such, and people are nearly always respectful and considerate. We've never had anyone come on there intentionally try to cause problems, only thing we get is every once in a while we'll get a couple people using our vent to do Arenas or something of that nature. But as vent admin you can kick or outright ban anyone you want locking out their specific ip address or an entire range preventing them from ever coming back, or simply change the password from time to time.
LotRO's is perfectly fine, was done at launch, is used a LOT in in PUGS.
Your clan might give out its vent info all the time, but its rare.
Ghangi
10-21-2009, 05:50 PM
There's a very very good reason to have in-game chat (not everyone's in a fleet, not everyone joins one, not everyone has a vent server), and people seem to be completely oblivious to the fine points in the original posting.
thats a good point. Mostly what my intial question was centered around....
soem of the fleets use a voise chat programe
the furion order uses vintrillo for voise chat
:) I hope you take this in the good nature its intended: I can see by your spelling why Voice would be useful :)
PS, I am a terrible typist and avid vent fan myself. Voice chat is a love hate subject by most people, but it really has value with the right group.
TFO_KillSwitch
10-21-2009, 05:52 PM
left 4 dead voice over ip work's grate . but for clans battles or fleet ops. we use vintrillo
are clan server is rented it is based out of NY
TFO_KillSwitch
10-21-2009, 05:53 PM
:) I hope you take this in the good nature its intended: I can see by your spelling why Voice would be useful :)
PS, I am a terrible typist and avid vent fan myself. Voice chat is a love hate subject by most people, but it really has value with the right group.
yup i for got to hit the abc button no probs. lol
Archangelwoghd
10-21-2009, 05:57 PM
MMOs are hardly friendly to the handicapped community, i played WoW with a disabled person who used a 3rd party program to play the game and was subsequently banned for botting.......he wasnt botting, he needed the access program to play the game.
Cryptic has already gone into GREAT detail about how they intend for the game to be handicapped friendly.
...and I will still freak if I hear a vulcan woman that sounds like Pavoratti, lol. Nor do I want to hear any 13 year old nerds pretending to be Starships Captains...and I doubt if they want to hear me either.
Swdsman
10-21-2009, 06:00 PM
Unreal Tournament 2004's and UT3's VOIP was good, as was BF2's and BF2142's. You had to get the sound tweaked right, though.
*EDIT*
At Archangel: You could mute the VOIP in the sound options so you don't have to hear others.
*EDIT 2*
How will adding optional VOIP make the game less accessible?
Powerhelm
10-22-2009, 07:21 AM
I have absolutely no desire to have my immersion broken by talking to some 13 year old nerd with a pip-squeak voice who sounds nothing like a starship captain. Nor do I expect does that little nerd wish to hear my grizzled condescending grumpy old man voice.
You immersion is less broken by having to stop moving or looking around and type everything to someone right next to you? Are you one of THOSE types of people ;) You know the ones that text a friend sitting next to them :p
We do not need to have this in game that is what Vent an Team Speak is for.
I can always tell when someone doesn't read the post at all because they quote the entire thing then have a one sentence blanket response that says nothing to back up their opinion...I gave two very real very common examples of why in-game voip is better for many and helps promote teaming and community and meeting people than Vent or TS.
Give me reasons why they're better than built in optional team voice chat? Seems to work very very well in LOTRO...
You obviously didn't read what was posted.
So if I join a PUG with you, can i have your vent or team speak info please? password too now.
There's a very very good reason to have in-game chat (not everyone's in a fleet, not everyone joins one, not everyone has a vent server), and people seem to be completely oblivious to the fine points in the original posting.
An Yes I did. I am not in a Fleet an I have my own Team Speak server An why do I have one all for when I do a pug(An that is when I do them I try to stay away fro them because most people do not take the time to know there class.) So as I was saying before There is not need for it. An most people do not even have a mic that play MMO's from all the ones I have played that Have in game voice chat it never really got used.
masonburrell
10-22-2009, 07:43 AM
no need team speak and vent work great and geting a server is rather easy. prob said already but i just want ot make sure u get the message!
hannahblh
10-22-2009, 07:53 AM
I can deal with VOIP via STO IF
1. If it doesn't lag the game
2. If the voip itself isn't laggy, choppy, low quality sound
3. They build a really cool Comms(VOIP) UI with hailing frequencies(local area broadcast), regular starfleet/race channels(for your guild/fleet), and customizeable channels(just for fun) right into the game
and optionally
4. voice modulators that can alter voices to fit a specified race with restricted customizeable parameters
(yeah ok this is asking way too much)
Peregrine_Falcon
10-22-2009, 10:23 AM
Uhm... have any of you guys even bothered to read the thread? On page two, in bright blue letters, I very clearly wrote:
In an interview on October 9th 2009, Daniel Stahl (an STO producer) said, "We’re not going to build yet another integrated voice chat solution. Most of the players that want it already have a better option."
Link to the interview here. (http://www.mmogaming.ru/modules/ipboard/index.php?showtopic=1794&pid=12076&st=0&#entry12076)
So I just have to ask, what part of "Star Trek Online is not going to have voice chat" did you not get?
godofbread
10-22-2009, 12:37 PM
Snap!
PWN'D!!!
Ghangi
10-22-2009, 12:50 PM
Uhm... have any of you guys even bothered to read the thread? On page two, in bright blue letters, I very clearly wrote:
In an interview on October 9th 2009, Daniel Stahl (an STO producer) said, "We’re not going to build yet another integrated voice chat solution. Most of the players that want it already have a better option."
Link to the interview here. (http://www.mmogaming.ru/modules/ipboard/index.php?showtopic=1794&pid=12076&st=0&#entry12076)
So I just have to ask, what part of "Star Trek Online is not going to have voice chat" did you not get?
ok calm down, that doesnt mean we cant talk about it. Thats what the forums are for.
Peregrine_Falcon
10-22-2009, 11:21 PM
ok calm down, that doesnt mean we cant talk about it. Thats what the forums are for.
First, I am always calm. Please don't read emotions into my words that simply are not there. Becoming upset over something someone says on the internet is simply... illogical.
Two, the people that I was responding to were those people who were still guessing whether or not STO will or will not have integral voice chat. I've already shown proof that STO will not have voice chat, and yet people are still posting; "I wonder if STO will have voice chat?"
"I'm guessing that STO will have voice chat. It just makes sense."
"If I had to guess I'd say that STO probably will not have voice chat."
"I hope that STO has voice chat. I want to speak to every player that hails me."
What am I invisible? There's simply no logical reason to continue to guess. STO WILL NOT HAVE VOICE CHAT.
thawn4444
10-22-2009, 11:41 PM
First, I am always calm. Please don't read emotions into my words that simply are not there. Becoming upset over something someone says on the internet is simply... illogical.
Two, the people that I was responding to were those people who were still guessing whether or not STO will or will not have integral voice chat. I've already shown proof that STO will not have voice chat, and yet people are still posting; "I wonder if STO will have voice chat?"
"I'm guessing that STO will have voice chat. It just makes sense."
"If I had to guess I'd say that STO probably will not have voice chat."
"I hope that STO has voice chat. I want to speak to every player that hails me."
What am I invisible? There's simply no logical reason to continue to guess. STO WILL NOT HAVE VOICE CHAT.
maybe they are all color blind and cant see your pretty light blue text:D
Jamisicus6
10-22-2009, 11:46 PM
Cryptic, WE NEED VOICE CHAT IN GAME!!
If only with our other fleet members (who we will probably be going around with quite a lot). Just a fleet chat please cryptic, If you really want to the extend it to the local area as well so we can hear all the noobs getting blown to hell by the high levelers and screaming NOOOOOOOOOOO into the mic :)
emery0
10-22-2009, 11:49 PM
Hello, and welcome to the Star Trek Online forums!
While it was mentioned earlier as a possibility, in an interview on October 9th 2009, Daniel Stahl (an STO producer) said, "We’re not going to build yet another integrated voice chat solution. Most of the players that want it already have a better option."
Link to the full interview here. (http://www.mmogaming.ru/modules/ipboard/index.php?showtopic=1794&pid=12076&st=0&#entry12076)
If you'd like more information about STO, you might find these threads helpful:
Ask Cryptic Blog Compilation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=22923)
Dev Chat Transcript Compilation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=27354)
Developer Interviews (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=12530)
Everything we know about STO (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=14535)
STO Video Consolidation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=28328)
You might also want to go here and sign up for beta testing (http://www.startrekonline.com/) if you haven't already done so.
Welcome aboard captain!
Do you have this saved somewhere?
It's on a hotkey :rolleyes:
emery0
10-22-2009, 11:52 PM
Cryptic, WE NEED VOICE CHAT IN GAME!!
If only with our other fleet members (who we will probably be going around with quite a lot). Just a fleet chat please cryptic, If you really want to the extend it to the local area as well so we can hear all the noobs getting blown to hell by the high levelers and screaming NOOOOOOOOOOO into the mic :)
Join a Fleet (Guild) that uses Ventrilo or Team Speak. :)
tkmodified
10-23-2009, 12:38 AM
Join a Fleet (Guild) that uses Ventrilo or Team Speak. :)
I ditto the statement.
MeinLeibenFurGott
10-23-2009, 12:46 AM
I'm glad Cryptic isn't going to implement an in-game voice chat.
hannahblh
10-23-2009, 09:00 AM
I don't really care if cryptic isn't going to put VOIP into STO and I dont really care what proof anyone has about it. I have seen tons of 'proof' about things that were never supposed to end up in games but did and vice versa. It may not come at launch but I would never make a bet that it wouldn't find it's way in there should STO somehow garner half as much success as some other MMORPG we know. The point of my previous post was that I can deal with it IF they do.
I think Ill save this thread because if any game ever could benfit as much from the use of dedicated voice comms this is the one.
Xenoshaft
10-23-2009, 09:38 AM
As many have said before me, this was covered to no end. Everyone/ most / many people want voice chat in game- however the dev team refuses to add it to the game. Done. they wont change. they said so already.
Xenoshaft
10-23-2009, 09:40 AM
First, I am always calm. Please don't read emotions into my words that simply are not there. Becoming upset over something someone says on the internet is simply... illogical.
Two, the people that I was responding to were those people who were still guessing whether or not STO will or will not have integral voice chat. I've already shown proof that STO will not have voice chat, and yet people are still posting; "I wonder if STO will have voice chat?"
"I'm guessing that STO will have voice chat. It just makes sense."
"If I had to guess I'd say that STO probably will not have voice chat."
"I hope that STO has voice chat. I want to speak to every player that hails me."
What am I invisible? There's simply no logical reason to continue to guess. STO WILL NOT HAVE VOICE CHAT.
dude you rock!
Powerhelm
10-23-2009, 08:07 PM
Unfortunately not everyone has a vent or TS server.
I didn't know you could get them for free otherwise I'd have one myself.
LOTRO has a great team chat system and CO desperately needs it.
But no matter whether you have a personal vent or not you still need to get details sent to a stranger and have several minutes setting up voice chat, possibly multiple times you're going to have to do this if you have several people on a team that forms over a few minutes.
Then there are people who just don't want to run another program or don't want to have to check settings and deal with yet another program's settings and adjusting individual voice levels all the while trying to form a team or play the game...
What am I invisible? There's simply no logical reason to continue to guess. STO WILL NOT HAVE VOICE CHAT.
I'm pretty sure I remember someone saying it'd be illogical for all CO lifetime subs to not get STO beta keys first...well that turned out to be accurate didn't it....
And the forum community tend to be a pretty hardcore group when it comes to gaming programs and such, with most PCs and computers in general coming with mics built in to take advantage of increasing high speed internet access more and more people are getting mics either to communicate with family and friends or as a result of getting a new computer.
You'd be very surprised at the number of people nowadays with mics on their computers and you'd probably be surprised by the number of people wanting in-game voice that aren't super tech/gaming program heavy people. This game isn't just appealing to heavy gamers it's appealing to Star Trek fans as a whole who while more often than note are smarter and sexier than fans of other Sci-Fi franchises (except Firefly Browncoats, they're not as smart but equally sexy and a little more fun at a party). It's time for people to get that through their head and think of ways to support teaming.
It doesn't affect disabled gamers. I've never in the years I've been gaming, played an MMO with a deaf person. And if I did I'd just have to type then wouldn't I?
And what if you have a vent server for your SG/fleet/guild? Then you want to talk to teammates. Is it possible to do that with either program at the same time w/o inviting them to the group server? Is there a conflict running both at once?
Yrdach
12-16-2009, 08:54 PM
As a neurologically challenged gamer who has over the years been occasionally active in disabled gamer advocacy, I am glad to heat STO decided to dedicate resources elsewhere. I played LOTRO, and the voice chat system was not bad, but I still stuck to resources like Ventrilo. Integrated Voice in a game is most often limited to things like being in a party, etc. As someone who often loses control of my fine and gross motor functions, external voice options allow me to communicate better with my guild, friends, etc and not just party members. Since there are so many good VOIP options out there, I think focusing in more productive areas was just a sound decision on their part. I am not saying in game voice is not a nice thing to have for pick up type groups, it certainly is, but far from a priority methinks. Just my 2 cents
theatreelf
12-16-2009, 10:29 PM
I thinik very valid points were raised for the need of in-game voice chat. We had voice chat in EQ2 and it worked great. Most people, even guilds, gave up using anything else, because the in -game chat was much easier to use. You could make private chats if you wanted and as for PUGS it was a must. Made grouping and raids so much easier to organize. This MMO seems like, from what I can tell, it would benefit greatly. And believe me, it is so much better to hear people talking and being able to get info quickly, it way outways any immersion.
k3nny77
01-01-2010, 10:28 AM
push xD
at first - a happy new year everyone!
imagine: between some pvp matches you do some partrol missions and want to be able to talk to those players too. it is not acceptable to manually join every 10 - 20 minutes another server.
if the others player's dont want to talk, should i expect that they dont want to group either? if they dont answer in chat, do they really care about teamplay? or are they distracted by their mates in teamspeak/ventrilo?
so in the end, we dont care about most players - ignore the chat cries for LFGs. There are many players out there, who can still participate in teamplay even without voice, but it would be faster, funnier and more accessible for new players, if we can talk directly to each other. From my point of view i would like to be able to talk to the folks on the sector map to offer my services.
The tactics (esp. pvp) would be faster and immersion would be really great with the integrated voice. and as i stated somewhere else, make some filters on the players who are able to talk in big instances, like teamleaders, pvp-leaders or something like that.
In the long run most there will be NO "group play" in open instance or pvp, expect the organized pve raids.
we are in 2010 - why not include ingame web-cam and voice support as in burnout paradise?
nathanpinard
01-01-2010, 10:34 AM
Ok, I"m going to say this.
Integrated voice chat is to me, a waste.
Why? Because if the server crashes, or someone's game crashes independently, they can't let you know via voice chat.
This is why vent is the far better choice than any kind of integrated voice chat for MMOs. Voice chat is ok for PUGs.
ChaosBG
01-01-2010, 10:38 AM
Agreed voice chat build into STO would be a lot better and easier than a 3rd party. EQ2 has shown this as its internal chat was great. still Vent is still usefull.
jaldu
01-01-2010, 10:39 AM
Im not sure if this has been covered or not but how is that chat system going to work? Will we be able to hail (voice chat) with other players starships or is voice chat limited to group or fleet interaction?
I for one don't want one. There are plenty of alternative third party programs out there. In game chat somehow makes it more "mandatory" for the average person. The minute there is ingame chat, you get people who will generally exclude you if you can't participate. I just can't ignore my kids like that. I'm all listening to some 15 year old talk about Nubz in wow when my kids are asking me homework questions. Bleh - that lasted like .3 minutes.
Now, ask if I think they are essential Raiding Tools? OF course! :D