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Elta_and_Zletha
10-20-2009, 05:33 PM
...According to the Alltern8 interview where they said the game will take place from Stardate 86645.315
Just thought I'd put it out there. =)
Inquizitor
10-20-2009, 05:43 PM
...According to the Alltern8 interview where they said the game will take place from Stardate 86645.315
Just thought I'd put it out there. =)
How do you figure?
ghall
10-20-2009, 05:45 PM
...According to the Alltern8 interview where they said the game will take place from Stardate 86645.315
Just thought I'd put it out there. =)
Depends on whose stardate calculator you use. There isn't really a canon method for accurate stardate calculation.
Banar
10-20-2009, 05:46 PM
Unfortunately Stardates are pretty much meaningless made up numbers.
Zepath
10-20-2009, 05:46 PM
Ok, I'm lost ... what's the point you're making EZ?
Zepath
10-20-2009, 05:47 PM
Unfortunately Stardates are pretty much meaningless made up numbers.
Now really ... they were in the beginning, but they are now specific ... I'll go find it and the explanation off MA.
ADDED:
The producers of Star Trek: The Next Generation decided to use stardates with five digits before the decimal point. They chose to begin the stardate with the number 4 because the series was set during the 24th century. The next digit identified the season of TNG (so TNG Season 1 had stardates 41xxx.x, Season 2 had stardates 42xxx.x, and so forth). The remaining digits increased gradually over the course of the season, from xx000.0 to xx999.9. Under this system, 1,000 stardate "units" were equal to approximately one year, since that is the normal timespan between two TV seasons. The writers of the Star Trek Chronology further simplified the system by having a calendar year start at 000 and end at 999, although this does not fit all references in the show, such as a Diwali celebration around stardate 44390, too early in the year according to the simplified system. (TNG: "Data's Day") Since stardate 41986.0 was in 2364 according to TNG: "The Neutral Zone", the simplified system assumes that stardates 41xxx.x covered the entire year 2364, stardates 42xxx.x the entire year 2365 and so forth, however later episodes of Star Trek: Voyager seem to suggest otherwise, for example VOY: "Homestead" gives a stardate of 54868.6, which would suggest a date sometime in late 2377, but a Gregorian date of April 5, 2378 is given instead.
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine and Star Trek: Voyager continued the TNG format. Since DS9 premiered during the sixth season of TNG and was set in the same timeframe, stardates on DS9 ranged from 46379.1 to 52861.3, and since the first season of Voyager would've been the eighth season of TNG (again, the in-universe timeframe remained the same), Voyager stardates ranged from 48315.6 to 54973.4. Obviously, this demonstrates that the number 4 doesn't stand for the 24th century in-universe, since stardates 50xxx.x were in 2373 according to the simplified system. Star Trek Nemesis, the latest Star Trek story in the 24th century, had a stardate of 56844.9, showing that it took place fifteen years after the first season of TNG. The USS Brattain was commissioned on stardate 22519.5, nineteen years before the first season assuming a regular increase, making it the earliest mentioned stardate in the 24th century. (TNG: "Night Terrors")
Of course there's a whole page there that goes into the exceptions, the mistakes, and the continuity errors.
But there is order behind the chaos.
Banar
10-20-2009, 06:01 PM
True, there is some limited order. But as far as that goes, we can only guess as to the year and general time in that year, it's very difficult to be specific given that canon flip-flops around when using stardates. Though perhaps Cryptic has settled on a standardized way of measuring Stardates, which would be very cool.
fractaleye
10-20-2009, 06:01 PM
Yeah, I used a page that Gozer linked the other day in IRC, and came up with the date (Wed Jan 14 2409 17:36 GMT) for the stardate 86645.315.
I'm not saying it's the one they're using for the game; just pointing out different calculators produce different stardates it seems. :shrug:
Elta_and_Zletha
10-20-2009, 06:04 PM
Ok, I'm lost ... what's the point you're making EZ?
I'm just making a little fun fact incase anyone wanted to know. Its nice to put a "real world date" in conjunction with Stardates.
How do you figure?
Depends on whose stardate calculator you use. There isn't really a canon method for accurate stardate calculation.
I like to use THIS (http://www.hillschmidt.de/gbr/sternenzeit.htm) site as it seems to be the most accurate so far. I used it to plug in all the Stardates mentioned in the Path storyline (if anyone even remembers me doing it) and they fit seamlessly well.
piponolo
10-20-2009, 06:10 PM
sounds cool. Good fact finding :D
:) Now we need the option to use "star date" for our forum time in User CP :)
cocoa-jin
10-20-2009, 06:52 PM
So if you work backwards using the TNG model, what day did they start using Stardates...or what day do they reference as day 1(Stardate 00000.0)?
ghall
10-20-2009, 07:13 PM
So if you work backwards using the TNG model, what day did they start using Stardates...or what day do they reference as day 1(Stardate 00000.0)?
According to the calculator Elta uses, stardate 0 would be 12:00am, January 1, 2323.
That doesn't make much sense to me though, considering that TOS occured in the 23rd century.
Elta_and_Zletha
10-20-2009, 07:28 PM
According to the calculator Elta uses, stardate 0 would be 12:00am, January 1, 2323.
That doesn't make much sense to me though, considering that TOS occured in the 23rd century.
You are correct, sir!
....about the date =P
cocoa-jin
10-20-2009, 07:34 PM
Intriguing.
Arokh72
10-20-2009, 07:35 PM
All I know is that date will be my mum's 460th birthday.