GPU questions here

[PlasmaInjector]

So hey if i should run with 1 GeForce GTX 295 or
Take on a Duel GTS 250s, Which is going to give me a better FPS when Huge ships R everywhere on the screen at once.

Also, Anyone know when the new GeForce upgrade from 295 is due out? B 4 STO launch?

N lets just say that my CPU is the latest......

N here is my Fav STO video so far lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOSrOTphD9M

[Eclipse1987]

I can't help you on which is better.

but I do know the upgrade for a 295 is the gf 300.

Haven't found a release date, but I've heard to expect it early next year.

by a top cpu do you mean a i7-975?

if so how does it run?

[TFO_KillSwitch]

here ty this link . this will let you compare card wright next to each other. i have the gx2 wich is on the wright in the link
http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=536&card2=560

[Loekii]

I would go with what works better in CO, as STO will have the same engine. What have they noticed working better in CO?

[PlasmaInjector]

I'll get back 2 U, Got 2 go 2 work......

[TheRealNaveed]

GeForce 300 series is supposed to be December 2009, isn't it? And as for the cards, pretty sure either of those are going to be just fine. My inclination would be to go with the 295 though.

[PlasmaInjector]

Any Idea if the Geforce 300 is going to be a duel GPU cuz that would B increadible!

C from what iv read duel Cards even of a lower grade can hold more FPS as higher lets say ship counts on the screen at one time, so Im wondering if it would really be better 2 roll with only one high end card or go with 2 cards if it wields better resultes.

[Deltab]

From the news i heard, Nvidia is having major problems in the 300 development. IE they can't make them, at least not well. So it looks like the 300s will be pushed back a while untill they can get better production runs. I mean heck they cant even effectivly test what they have now to see if anything is wrong with their design, because of the poor run they got.

That may also effect the price as well, since R&D costs are higher than expected.

So keep that in mind

[Deltab]

Any Idea if the Geforce 300 is going to be a duel GPU cuz that would B increadible!

C from what iv read duel Cards even of a lower grade can hold more FPS as higher lets say ship counts on the screen at one time, so Im wondering if it would really be better 2 roll with only one high end card or go with 2 cards if it wields better resultes.

Yeah a HD4870x2 is about equal to an HD5870... that said 2 5870s would be nice lol. As would 2 295s for that matter

[mrjohng]

I would go with what works better in CO, as STO will have the same engine. What have they noticed working better in CO?

Most current mid-to-upper range cards seems to work just fine. SLI/Crossfire doesn't seem to give too much of an improvement, though. The CO engine also has a lot of advanced graphics options though, so even low-end card can run it if you turn off features and/or reduce detail settings - Its just not as pretty that way.

[TFO_KillSwitch]

Any Idea if the Geforce 300 is going to be a duel GPU cuz that would B increadible!

C from what iv read duel Cards even of a lower grade can hold more FPS as higher lets say ship counts on the screen at one time, so Im wondering if it would really be better 2 roll with only one high end card or go with 2 cards if it wields better resultes.

i dont see y it wouldent . the 9800gx2 i have is . if it was not would that not be going back wards in tec

[Morgomir]

How well do you guys think an NVIDIA Geforce 275 will run this game? I have that and 6gb DDR2 ram and a 2.4ghz quad core processor...I dont really think I need to worry about upgrading do I?

[Deltab]

My guess is that your 275 will be processor capped. So in otherwords your CPU may not be able to keep up with your GPU at 2.4. That said i dont think it will be the end of the world. i would also get other opinions. That said my HD 4870 runs CO on max without even trying. So I'd guess you'll be more than fine.

[TFO_KillSwitch]

lol thats over kill
look at CO specs its the same igion

[Kayden]

Also, Anyone know when the new GeForce upgrade from 295 is due out? B 4 STO launch?[/url]

Yeah all I have heard about the new video card is that it is coming out Q4 2009, but since there hasn't been a lot of info or samples sent out since the announcement I am having my doubts it will be this year. I plan to upgrade my video card as well with the nvidia fermi but I dunno cause I plan to go with 3x 24" mons and eyefinity looks very nice with ATI and matrox's solution doesn't support 1920x1200.

[mprhead5]

if i can run crysis all the way up with my 2 year old 8800 gts 640mb I'm sure STO will be no prob full up

[Azurian]

Personally, I'm hoping my newly bought 9600GT makes the mark. It supposedly passed the minimum benchmarks for CO, but who knows with STO.

Hope Cryptic sets lower than this, because my computer is brand new and I can't afford to upgrade to a better card. Especially since I'd have to upgrade the computer.

[TheRealNaveed]

Personally, I'm hoping my newly bought 9600GT makes the mark. It supposedly passed the minimum benchmarks for CO, but who knows with STO.

Hope Cryptic sets lower than this, because my computer is brand new and I can't afford to upgrade to a better card. Especially since I'd have to upgrade the computer.

The 9600 is what I have right now. It'll certainly cut it, but I'm hoping to get a new computer before STO comes out... all depends on the money! But yeah, 9600 is only slightly below recommended specs, well above minimum.

Edit: This is assuming CO and STO requirements are identical.

[mprhead5]

its all about building your own computer. mine is 2 years old last month and still kicks the crap out of almost any store bought comp and it only cost me 1200 to put together.

anyone can do it.

[mrjohng]

How well do you guys think an NVIDIA Geforce 275 will run this game? I have that and 6gb DDR2 ram and a 2.4ghz quad core processor...I dont really think I need to worry about upgrading do I?

I'm running CO with an over-clocked 275 (so performs roughly on the level of a 280) and 3.0Ghz Core2. CO runs just fine with this setup at 1680x1040, with most graphics features turned on/up and 4x AA. CO doesn't really benefit a lot from multiple cores, though, so I would expect a 2.4Ghz Quad to maybe be a little worse, but it should still be fine, IMO, assuming that you're not running at some crazy high resolution.

[mrjohng]

if i can run crysis all the way up with my 2 year old 8800 gts 640mb I'm sure STO will be no prob full up

Actually, I used to run CO with that exact card. It worked, but I found it to be a little slow, and so had to turn off some graphical features that I would have rather left enabled. So, I upgraded to an over-clocked 275, and am quite happy with the performance now.

[Kayden]

Actually, I used to run CO with that exact card. It worked, but I found it to be a little slow, and so had to turn off some graphical features that I would have rather left enabled. So, I upgraded to an over-clocked 275, and am quite happy with the performance now.

I still run 2 bfg 8800gtx water cooled over clocked edition in sli and I haven't run across anything I can't maxed out at 1920x1200 still. I haven't tried CO but even Crysis I manage to pull in 38fps on enthusiast with dx10 with 2xaa and 4x af, and resident evil 5 60fps with the same settings. I do run X3TC maxed with 8x aa and 16x af and I manage 48fps. There isn't much I can't run very well. I certainly don't think STO will be an issue and considering CO recommends and 8800 or better I don't think STO will be an issue either.

[matthew.kohl]

it may depend on other system specs as well. I can run anything on my 8800 gts but I also have a quad 3.3ghz processor and 4gb ram.

[mrjohng]

I still run 2 bfg 8800gtx water cooled over clocked edition in sli and I haven't run across anything I can't maxed out at 1920x1200 still. I haven't tried CO but even Crysis I manage to pull in 38fps on enthusiast with dx10 with 2xaa and 4x af, and resident evil 5 60fps with the same settings. I do run X3TC maxed with 8x aa and 16x af and I manage 48fps. There isn't much I can't run very well. I certainly don't think STO will be an issue and considering CO recommends and 8800 or better I don't think STO will be an issue either.

I beleive you, but CO seems to run a bit slower than Crysis when you have all of the options enabled. (Of course, for many of the options, the visual differences seem to be fairly minor.) CO also doesn't seem to benefit as much from SLI/Crossfire as Crysis does.

[PlasmaInjector]

Well Hey the point is to Run it all at full detail, But my idea is to run a lower Rez Widescreen to get the FPS up with Full Everything and Thats the point, would two mid to low cards do better in that aspect or One Huge card?

[mrjohng]

Well Hey the point is to Run it all at full detail, But my idea is to run a lower Rez Widescreen to get the FPS up with Full Everything and Thats the point, would two mid to low cards do better in that aspect or One Huge card?

My guess, based on what I have seen in CO, and what people with SLI setups have posted, is that a single very fast card would probably be the best. CO doesn't benefit greatly from SLI setups, so I don't see a pair of mid-to-low cards being better than a single high-end card.

[Wireman]

Well Hey the point is to Run it all at full detail, But my idea is to run a lower Rez Widescreen to get the FPS up with Full Everything and Thats the point, would two mid to low cards do better in that aspect or One Huge card?


A 295 is not one huge card. It is simply two 275 chips on one card. So whether you buy two cheaper GTX275 or one 295 you still have issues with scaling on a SLI setup depending on the game. Two GTX 295 cards have even more scaling issues and you don't necessarily see 4X the framerate of a GTX275.

Either way, a GTX 295 would be overkill for this game depending on the resolution you play at. Even at 19x12 you should be able to max everything with a GTX 295.

That being said, it's a bad time to buy one right now because nVidia has been cutting back on stock and keeping the prices high. That either means the GT300 is close or the chips are too expensive to go into a price war with ATI's new cards. I'd say the latter.

It's up to you with the money you have to spend. I went with a Radeon 5870 so I don't have to worry about SLI or Crossfire scaling with games, and if I need an upgrade I can get another 5870 in here, assuming what I play scales with multi-gpu games.

Since the game isn't released yet, and if you want to go with nVidia, you could try waiting for the GT300. At the very least it should in theory make nVidia drop the prices of current cards.

[Cpt.Power]

It's up to you with the money you have to spend. I went with a Radeon 5870 so I don't have to worry about SLI or Crossfire scaling with games, and if I need an upgrade I can get another 5870 in here, assuming what I play scales with multi-gpu games.




at the moment there is an AA Bug in the CO-Engine, so let's wait for new drivers and game-patches

[Blademaven]

To be honest I don't know much about graphics cards. I don't know where the NVIDIA GeForce 8600 I have falls into what you guys are talking about. Will it be enough?

[Cpt.Power]

To be honest I don't know much about graphics cards. I don't know where the NVIDIA GeForce 8600 I have falls into what you guys are talking about. Will it be enough?

I Think you should buy a newer one, maye a Nvidia GTX 275, cheap and enough for STO

[xceptionzero]

as always on a mmorpg the biggest limiting factor will be your ping.. here in the uk the only way to get decent ping is to go with the one and only cable BB supplier.

[Blademaven]

I Think you should buy a newer one, maye a Nvidia GTX 275, cheap and enough for STO

Thx for advice

[Wireman]

Thx for advice



There are a lot of options for you depending on what you want to spend and what kind of hardware you have. Powersupply etc.

[PlasmaInjector]

Well Hey does STO use DirectX 11?
Thats a big question cuz that would mean HOLDN OUT till amd or nivida gets theirs out the door, hopfuly B 4 STO launch, or open beta......

But if DirectX 11 features haven't been built into the game then well theres no point cuz if a currnet highend card can cap this game out, its just going to be cheaper soon and with out a huge cpu its just gonna cause a bottleneck......

Thx Captian Kor for your post, Ima go with one card not two n if that card happens to have two gpus built into it will then i will just hope for better drivers to off load the scaleN to the other core......

[PlasmaInjector]

WonderN about Physx cards 2

[mrjohng]

WonderN about Physx cards 2

Champions Online does not use DX11. Don't think it uses Physx either. So, I would not expect STO to use them either.

[dudewhat]

You need to watch THIS (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=28637) HD gameplay video to get an idea of just how good of a video card you are going to need to play this game. The graphics are great but to see them you will have to have a good computer.

[Wireman]

Well Hey does STO use DirectX 11?
Thats a big question cuz that would mean HOLDN OUT till amd or nivida gets theirs out the door, hopfuly B 4 STO launch, or open beta......

But if DirectX 11 features haven't been built into the game then well theres no point cuz if a currnet highend card can cap this game out, its just going to be cheaper soon and with out a huge cpu its just gonna cause a bottleneck......

Thx Captian Kor for your post, Ima go with one card not two n if that card happens to have two gpus built into it will then i will just hope for better drivers to off load the scaleN to the other core......


Right now I doubt it will use DX11, will it in the future? I'm not sure. Right now ATI has their DX11 cards out, and you can check sites like guru3d or Anandtech for benchmarks and prices and see if they are appealing to you.

[PlasmaInjector]

Anyone know for sure or has read a offical statment regarding Physx card support?

[Nanoteki]

Anyone know for sure or has read a offical statment regarding Physx card support?

I don't know, but I'm worried that my new system with a QUAD SLI GTX300 graphics setup and one Physx card along with a new dual slotted CPU motherboard won't be ready in time by the time STO is released. I hope Nvidia releases their new card and dual slotted CPU Intel support is made available soon after. If anyone has any info on any planned Dual CPU Intel based motherboards hitting the market please post the info.

In the end if it does not work out to my satisfaction I'm just going to have to lease run time from a Blue gene center to help run STO in the meantime. Oh God why can't developers make games we can run now without expensive petaflop systems. Oh God will Nvidia support DirectX21?Anyone can anyone answer me that please. :rolleyes:

[Wireman]

I don't know, but I'm worried that my new system with a QUAD SLI GTX300 graphics setup and one Physx card along with a new dual slotted CPU motherboard won't be ready in time by the time STO is released. I hope Nvidia releases their new card and dual slotted CPU Intel support is made available soon after. If anyone has any info on any planned Dual CPU Intel based motherboards hitting the market please post the info.

In the end if it does not work out to my satisfaction I'm just going to have to lease run time from a Blue gene center to help run STO in the meantime. Oh God why can't developers make games we can run now without expensive petaflop systems. Oh God will Nvidia support DirectX21?Anyone can anyone answer me that please. :rolleyes:



Some people spend their money on cars, others on computer equipment. It's a hobby and something enjoyable. It's more productive than spending it on blow and hookers. But to each his own. He's simple excited about the game and obviously has disposable income.

[PlasmaInjector]

Some people spend their money on cars, others on computer equipment. It's a hobby and something enjoyable. It's more productive than spending it on blow and hookers. But to each his own. He's simple excited about the game and obviously has disposable income.

OMG that post was funny......

[PlasmaInjector]

I think Nanoteki is this kinda guy to roll a Hooker class if there was such a ship.

[Rivaris]

Some people spend their money on cars, others on computer equipment. It's a hobby and something enjoyable. It's more productive than spending it on blow and hookers. But to each his own. He's simple excited about the game and obviously has disposable income.

this post = win.

the rig i currently own is less then 2 years old but im giong to upgrade it again in a few months. not because its needed but because i want to run STO on max grafics in 100+ fleet combat with out my FPs dropping to 1 when the weapons fire starts flying.

[Cpt.Power]

this post = win.

the rig i currently own is less then 2 years old but im giong to upgrade it again in a few months. not because its needed but because i want to run STO on max grafics in 100+ fleet combat with out my FPs dropping to 1 when the weapons fire starts flying.

but notice, higher graphic = maybe higher pings

[Rivaris]

but notice, higher graphic = maybe higher pings

i played many games on max grafics and non of those were affecting my ping rates every thing on low or every thing on high ping was the same for me.

you just need to make sure you connection to the server is as direct as it can be. if your unlucky you will end up node hopping all over the world before reaching the server and have a ping of 400+.

[Nanoteki]

i played many games on max grafics and non of those were affecting my ping rates every thing on low or every thing on high ping was the same for me.

you just need to make sure you connection to the server is as direct as it can be. if your unlucky you will end up node hopping all over the world before reaching the server and have a ping of 400+.

Quite right graphics settings and pings are unrelated. Now one may experience a certain form of graphical lag if one's settings and system are not up to par. That lag however can be caused by various system specific bottlenecks or even simply overall system capabilities.

[Nanoteki]

I think Nanoteki is this kinda guy to roll a Hooker class if there was such a ship.

It's called a PIMP Class Starship and maybe depending on the quality of the ho's Id be pimping I might be able to afford one.:D

[PlasmaInjector]

It's called a PIMP Class Starship and maybe depending on the quality of the ho's Id be pimping I might be able to afford one.:D

omg lol ok U is funny

[Batleh]

IMHO the king of the hill currently is the ATI 5870. It's benchmarking better than the nVidia 295, costs less, has greatly improved image quality from older ATI's, chews up less power, runs cooler, has better multi-monitor support, has DX11 support, and ends up quieter even under load. The thing you give up is nVidia's built in hooks for PhysX, but there are drivers out there that let PhysX work with ATI's as well. As far as I'm aware no MMOs support PhysX, so unless you want for something else like an FPS (CoD or something like that) it's not worth the price premium (again, I don't really play FPS games much, so ths is just MHO)

If you're not looking to spend $400-500+ on a video card, the ATI 5850 is faster/cooler/quieter/etc that the nVidia 275 or 285, and is about $100 cheaper than the 285, so again, I think it's an obvious choice if you're buying today.

If you're buying in 6 months... who knows... nVidia's new card, when it comes out, it's likely they'll reclaim the performance title, but you're probably looking at a $500+ card again. I just ordered a new system with ATI cards because my existing gaming box died and I'm currently using the computer my girlfriend uses to read email. I need a new system to game on, so I bought today. If you can hold off, hold off - there's always something better/cheaper coming out next quarter :-)

[PlasmaInjector]

IMHO the king of the hill currently is the ATI 5870. It's benchmarking better than the nVidia 295, costs less, has greatly improved image quality from older ATI's, chews up less power, runs cooler, has better multi-monitor support, has DX11 support, and ends up quieter even under load. The thing you give up is nVidia's built in hooks for PhysX, but there are drivers out there that let PhysX work with ATI's as well. As far as I'm aware no MMOs support PhysX, so unless you want for something else like an FPS (CoD or something like that) it's not worth the price premium (again, I don't really play FPS games much, so ths is just MHO)

If you're not looking to spend $400-500+ on a video card, the ATI 5850 is faster/cooler/quieter/etc that the nVidia 275 or 285, and is about $100 cheaper than the 285, so again, I think it's an obvious choice if you're buying today.

If you're buying in 6 months... who knows... nVidia's new card, when it comes out, it's likely they'll reclaim the performance title, but you're probably looking at a $500+ card again. I just ordered a new system with ATI cards because my existing gaming box died and I'm currently using the computer my girlfriend uses to read email. I need a new system to game on, so I bought today. If you can hold off, hold off - there's always something better/cheaper coming out next quarter :-)

Thats info, thx man, you know I know that about Gforce cards back when, but somehow that slipped my mind wft.
U know I think that I only have one question left.

[PlasmaInjector]

En now for the Hard one, yea I said it o.O
So I have a Plasma HDTV with 1080P and Thats what I want to use for a Monitor but It only have and I mean only has A HDMI port, two of them.
So this is the mega plan if I cant do this I fall back on Low rez wide screen with all the settings on high.

I need something that can scale to 1080P though HDMI but that Rez isnt native to a GPU from what I can remmber reading, So anyone have any Ideas?

Side note with this rez I still want to run everything on high with out FPS drops, Think I wont turn on x2 or x4 Anti A

[Frobond]

En now for the Hard one, yea I said it o.O
So I have a Plasma HDTV with 1080P and Thats what I want to use for a Monitor but It only have and I mean only has A HDMI port, two of them.
So this is the mega plan if I cant do this I fall back on Low rez wide screen with all the settings on high.

I need something that can scale to 1080P though HDMI but that Rez isnt native to a GPU from what I can remmber reading, So anyone have any Ideas?

Side note with this rez I still want to run everything on high with out FPS drops, Think I wont turn on x2 or x4 Anti A


ok if i understood that right you have a high def tv you want to use as a monitor its a 1080p tv witch means is resolution is 1920x1080 most cards can do that without a problem. my laptop has a hdmi port on the back of it and i can plug it into my 60" 1080p tv without any problems and play blue-ray movies as well as eve with med settings(this is b/c of the specs of the laptop if i had a better graphics card on the laptop it would be even higher settings). the only thing you need to do is get an adapter that goes from dvi to hdmi so you can plug your hdmi cable into your card. unless your card has the hdmi slot in witch case your golden. Dvi is basically hdmi without the sound capability so that's y the adapter works now you will have to hook up sound some other way but that's easy through the audio ports you can buy an adapter that goes from 1/8 inch(back of your pc) to rca(white and red plugs) on the back of the tv/ sound system.

hope that answers the question as it was rather hard to figure out what you where typing.

[PlasmaInjector]

Most of that I knew, sigh

Bump 4 better answers

[PlasmaInjector]

There is a right way to do this, Who knows how?

[PlasmaInjector]

R ATI cards perfered to run on a HDTV?

[Frobond]

Most of that I knew, sigh

Bump 4 better answers

if you could elaborate then on what you want cause from the way you asked the question all you wanted to know is if it would work. i would be happy to answer better if you can elaborate more on what you want.

[PlasmaInjector]

I think I got it, Gonna Run with a Ati 5870 en run with out Anti A with everything eles on high.
Ati made it easy to connect to a HDTV then from what I remmberd years ago lol

U know how they say a slow CPU can hurt u if you have a high range GPU, Which CPU wouldnt slowdown my performece with this card, yet still B resonable 4 cost?

[PlasmaInjector]

This is a bump 4 an anwser

[martinbrayman]

Does anyone know how good a XFX GTS250 1GB DDR3 will be ?

[Jad]

The ATI 5700 series is in the spot light right now for HDMI hook ups in HTPCs. In my opinion the 5770 is the sweet spot for price performance. Check out online reviews. Right now Nvidia just has no answer for ATIs new line.

I have been a Nvidia devotee for a long time, but Ati seems to have bested them for this cycle. Google ATI 5770, you will find a lot of info. If there are no production and quality issues that pop up for ATI, Nvidia is going to be in the back seat for this car ride.

[PlasmaInjector]

Does anyone know how good a XFX GTS250 1GB DDR3 will be ?

Any card at this point with 1GB or ram is gonna Rock this game, no worries.
Well and if somehow U have performece problems, which wont happen with that card, Try this, Turn you're Rez to a low setting and If u have a wide screen turn it to the lowest wide screen rez cuz that will free up an increadible about of power.

The lower the Rez, The more settings U have run on HIGH.

[martinbrayman]

Any card at this point with 1GB or ram is gonna Rock this game, no worries.
Well and if somehow U have performece problems, which wont happen with that card, Try this, Turn you're Rez to a low setting and If u have a wide screen turn it to the lowest wide screen rez cuz that will free up an increadible about of power.

The lower the Rez, The more settings U have run on HIGH.

Cool thanks, the rest of the system should easily handle it as i have a Phenom II X4 Processor 8Gb of Ram and a SSD Hard drive for win 7 :), all being run by my nice Antec 700w Power Supply

[PlasmaInjector]

Right now the Plan!

Windows 7
Core i7 960
Radeon HD 5870
DDR3 1600 8GBs
Lite-On iHOS104-08 Blu-ray reader / its 70 bucks
PC & Cooling's Silencer 750W
Cooler Master Cosmos 1000
Mobo - No idea, n as long as it costs under 200

[Will_Lucky]

From what I've heard the GT300 series is due Q1 2010, you can also expect to pay an arm for a single card. Ati are being given a lot of freedom as well as they are expected to have the 5950 and 5970 out next month (dual cards). And ATI will no doubt slowly bring there prices down to further combat Nvidia.

[PlasmaInjector]

From what I've heard the GT300 series is due Q1 2010, you can also expect to pay an arm for a single card. Ati are being given a lot of freedom as well as they are expected to have the 5950 and 5970 out next month (dual cards). And ATI will no doubt slowly bring there prices down to further combat Nvidia.

Dual Cards?
U mean one card with Two GPUs in it?

Whats the Nano for the GT300?

Ait with 5970 next month seems like a lie lol

[PlasmaInjector]

Bump for Creative Ideas lol

4 the amount of studyN ive done over the last two weeks, everything seems to point to waitN for Lynnfield..
Cause and concern for open beta start time and Lynnfield release in conjunction with Gforce new CPU.
Intel is suppost to have something around that time as well, so here I'am stuck with the waitN game grrrrr.

[Batleh]

Right now the Plan!

Windows 7
Core i7 960
Radeon HD 5870
DDR3 1600 8GBs
Lite-On iHOS104-08 Blu-ray reader / its 70 bucks
PC & Cooling's Silencer 750W
Cooler Master Cosmos 1000
Mobo - No idea, n as long as it costs under 200

So for this setup I'll make a suggestion. You're talking about a Core i7 900 series. Those chips go into the Intel X58 chipset motherboards which have 3 channels between the memory and CPU. That means to get your best performance, you want memory in banks of 3, so I'd suggest 6gig instead of 8. If you put in 8gig your memory will down rank to slower speeds.

The i7 800 series chips go into Intel's P55 board, which only has 2 channels, so in that board you want memory in even numbered banks.

[Batleh]

Bump for Creative Ideas lol

4 the amount of studyN ive done over the last two weeks, everything seems to point to waitN for Lynnfield..
Cause and concern for open beta start time and Lynnfield release in conjunction with Gforce new CPU.
Intel is suppost to have something around that time as well, so here I'am stuck with the waitN game grrrrr.

"Lynnfield" is the Core i7-8xx and Core i5-7xx Chips that were released with the Intel P55 chipset in September. It's the smaller brother to the "Bloomfield" CPU's which retail as the Core i7-9xx and Extreme Edition.

[PlasmaInjector]

OMG seems like I should just go with it, insted of waitN

[Dext]

Right now the Plan!

Windows 7
Core i7 960
Radeon HD 5870
DDR3 1600 8GBs
Lite-On iHOS104-08 Blu-ray reader / its 70 bucks
PC & Cooling's Silencer 750W
Cooler Master Cosmos 1000
Mobo - No idea, n as long as it costs under 200

Your Mobo is not really a place to to cut price.

[Batleh]

OMG seems like I should just go with it, insted of waitN

Heh :-) well, it all depends... The X58 and i7-9xx systems are fastest right now, but they also cost the most. The P55 and i7-8xx or i5xx systems are much cheaper, but you give up performance - the X58 has about twice the bus bandwidth as the P55 chipset (4.8GT/s vs 2.5GT/s). The thing to remember is that even the slower of the 2 chipsets still has about twice the bandwidth as the old 3ghz Core2EE which has a transfer rate of 1.333GT/s.

But like almost all hardware, the longer you wait, the lower the cost. Figure out what you want to spend (not what you want to buy) and then find a date you're willing to wait for. If you want the box before STO launches the rumor mill has the release date pegged at Feb 2nd right now, so planning to buy in Jan is a good bet. You might get a price drop for some of the components, you'll probably get new video cards to look at, and you might be able to take advantage of some post-xmas/new year discounts, so you'll probably get a better bang for your buck than you will right now :-) Of course, take this with a grain of salt... there could be a fire at a factory in Asia that causes the price of parts to skyrocket (anyone remember the PCB board shortage a few years back? :-) )

[PlasmaInjector]

Heh :-) well, it all depends... The X58 and i7-9xx systems are fastest right now, but they also cost the most. The P55 and i7-8xx or i5xx systems are much cheaper, but you give up performance - the X58 has about twice the bus bandwidth as the P55 chipset (4.8GT/s vs 2.5GT/s). The thing to remember is that even the slower of the 2 chipsets still has about twice the bandwidth as the old 3ghz Core2EE which has a transfer rate of 1.333GT/s.

But like almost all hardware, the longer you wait, the lower the cost. Figure out what you want to spend (not what you want to buy) and then find a date you're willing to wait for. If you want the box before STO launches the rumor mill has the release date pegged at Feb 2nd right now, so planning to buy in Jan is a good bet. You might get a price drop for some of the components, you'll probably get new video cards to look at, and you might be able to take advantage of some post-xmas/new year discounts, so you'll probably get a better bang for your buck than you will right now :-) Of course, take this with a grain of salt... there could be a fire at a factory in Asia that causes the price of parts to skyrocket (anyone remember the PCB board shortage a few years back? :-) )

U Sir R a Genius

[PlasmaInjector]

K a Core i7 960 would'nt bog down a lets say New Gforce 300 or ATI unrelesed card would it?
I've read that some cards R just 2 fast 4 some prossecers.

[JesseH21]

K a Core i7 960 would'nt bog down a lets say New Gforce 300 or ATI unrelesed card would it?
I've read that some cards R just 2 fast 4 some prossecers.

considering an i7 is like an 8 core processor... it can pretty much handle anything. i think said cards were for single core or even some dual core bog-downedness.

[PlasmaInjector]

its what I was thinkN thx

[PlasmaInjector]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOSrOTphD9M

[JesseH21]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOSrOTphD9M

i dont see how that applys to this topic. >>