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Murgenpl
10-09-2009, 06:14 AM
Is there a chance for for PVP roleplay server? I've read some post about a pvp system in which u will fight others only if u and they want to. I seriously hope that all fans of that system would have their PvE server and those who think that mmo is not just rpg with co-op mode with other players. In my opinion pvp is a vital part of a mmorpg games. there is nothing better than to find enemy with his "pants down". Of course there should be some zones for newbies where they could get used to the game and dont be affraid of being killed by high level enemy , but higher lvl players in neutral zone should be in constant danger of battle. Otherwise when u achieve the highest lvl in this game , there would be no point to continue playing. finding better gear would be pointless because who are u going to use it against? mobs? Sneaking to surprise enemy or running as fast as u can away from him is a part of every good MMO :P And as it goes for roleplay I bet there will be lots of maniacs who would be happy to pretend to be real starfleet officer during the game and such a server would sepparate them from casual players who just want to shoot and level up for once in a while without putting to much effort into staying in character
JesseH21
10-09-2009, 06:23 AM
if they do it like CO... no there wont be any pvp or rp specific servers.
Huutini
10-09-2009, 06:31 AM
It's very likely that there will be only one Server for all.
Be that as it may, it has been stated by the devs, that PvP will be completely consensual. So, no place for ganking, griefing and shooting someone out of the sky with his "pants down". Sorry...
It's very likely that there will be only one Server for all.
Be that as it may, it has been stated by the devs, that PvP will be completely consensual. So, no place for ganking, griefing and shooting someone out of the sky with his "pants down". Sorry...
Yeah. The devs have confirmed - no question about it, definitely confirmed that we'll only have one big server. No RP servers. No PvP servers. No region-specific or language specific servers.
One server.
And there won't be entirely open PvP...no, at least not on the Fed side. There'll be faction vs. faction PvP along the neutral zone, but not outside the designated areas.
HOWEVER, and this is the big thing - we've been told the Klingons will have PvP WITHIN their own faction - house versus house PvP. We don't know how that'll work out yet, though.
All this has been stated in dev chats, interviews, etc. I'm not saying that's good or bad. I don't really have an opinion here. I do PvP in other MMOs, but it's not my priority in gaming.
Huutini
10-09-2009, 06:39 AM
Yeah. The devs have confirmed - no question about it, definitely confirmed that we'll only have one big server. No RP servers. No PvP servers. No region-specific or language specific servers.
One server.
They did? Cool. Okay, I wasn't sure about it. :)
They did? Cool. Okay, I wasn't sure about it. :)
Yeah, I'm just too lazy to look for the exact posts and such. We even know the hardware will be in Boston - where Champs is hosted.
Mostly the only reason I remember it is 'cause a while back there were folks pushing for language-specific servers...ie. German servers, French servers, or so on. I was backing that pretty strongly. We were told no, one server model.
Which I can get, really. The rationale given is that they don't wish to segregate the community; having 'specific' servers like RP ones, language ones, or even PvP-focused ones...does split the playerbase.
Huutini
10-09-2009, 06:45 AM
Yeah, I'm just too lazy to look for the exact posts and such. We even know the hardware will be in Boston - where Champs is hosted.
Mostly the only reason I remember it is 'cause a while back there were folks pushing for language-specific servers...ie. German servers, French servers, or so on. I was backing that pretty strongly. We were told no, one server model.
Which I can get, really. The rationale given is that they don't wish to segregate the community; having 'specific' servers like RP ones, language ones, or even PvP-focused ones...does split the playerbase.
No need for proof, I believe you. And now I remember that discussion. :)
Murgenpl
10-10-2009, 01:11 AM
I hope that this difference in pvp between federation and klingons wont create big difference in number of players playing each side
Is there a chance for for PVP roleplay server? I've read some post about a pvp system in which u will fight others only if u and they want to. I seriously hope that all fans of that system would have their PvE server and those who think that mmo is not just rpg with co-op mode with other players. In my opinion pvp is a vital part of a mmorpg games. there is nothing better than to find enemy with his "pants down". Of course there should be some zones for newbies where they could get used to the game and dont be affraid of being killed by high level enemy , but higher lvl players in neutral zone should be in constant danger of battle. Otherwise when u achieve the highest lvl in this game , there would be no point to continue playing. finding better gear would be pointless because who are u going to use it against? mobs? Sneaking to surprise enemy or running as fast as u can away from him is a part of every good MMO :P And as it goes for roleplay I bet there will be lots of maniacs who would be happy to pretend to be real starfleet officer during the game and such a server would sepparate them from casual players who just want to shoot and level up for once in a while without putting to much effort into staying in character
They all ready told us there will not be server rule sets like this. an From what we are told there going for one world server.
Yeah, I'm just too lazy to look for the exact posts and such. We even know the hardware will be in Boston - where Champs is hosted.
Mostly the only reason I remember it is 'cause a while back there were folks pushing for language-specific servers...ie. German servers, French servers, or so on. I was backing that pretty strongly. We were told no, one server model.
Which I can get, really. The rationale given is that they don't wish to segregate the community; having 'specific' servers like RP ones, language ones, or even PvP-focused ones...does split the playerbase.
You are right an I was the one that got the info on where the server will be.
minkymaid
10-30-2009, 05:02 AM
oh... so... I joined the community yesterday... and thats my big question answered. No dedicated RP PvE server.
I'll be heading back to Lotro, or even AoC then.
Very disappointed roleplayer beaming out :(
JesseH21
10-30-2009, 05:19 AM
oh... so... I joined the community yesterday... and thats my big question answered. No dedicated RP PvE server.
I'll be heading back to Lotro, or even AoC then.
Very disappointed roleplayer beaming out :(
very few MMOs have "dedicated" PR servers. I dont see why having a dedicated RP server matters, if you want to RP, RP im sure there are others out there that RP as well. look for a fleet (AKA Guild) that is into RP and hang around with them.
DarkOrion69
10-30-2009, 05:20 AM
STO...one game...one server...one mind...resistance is futile :)
oh... so... I joined the community yesterday... and thats my big question answered. No dedicated RP PvE server.
I'll be heading back to Lotro, or even AoC then.
Very disappointed roleplayer beaming out :(
Here's a question. Does having a dedicated RP server really make a difference?
'cause, y'know, in my experience...it doesn't. Not really. An RP server doesn't mean everyone on the server RPs. In an IDEAL WORLD, maaaaybe you could have that perfect RP environment. But that doesn't happen in real life.
Even if the server says 'RP ONLY' in big honking letters, you're still gonna have PvPers going in there. You're still gonna have farmers. You're still gonna have gamers who type in 133t.
All the 'RP server' tag means is that the server...will have a higher population of RPers. But those RPers will still be a minority. Because most MMO players don't RP. Even people who like the setting, give proper names to their characters, write up little stories and bios...even THOSE people don't necessarily RP in-game.
I'm an RPer. But I also realise that my chosen style of gameplay is a MINORITY thing. There's no point pretending otherwise.
I'm trying Champions Online to see how this whole 'one big server' thing works out. From what I'm seeing so far, the people who want to RP...know how to find each other.
And it being a single huge server means a larger group of people to RP with, as opposed to the RP population being split over several servers.
minkymaid
10-30-2009, 10:20 AM
for me, yes, a RP server is the better thing. As a person who likes to be immersed in the world and to develop my character beyond just stats and armour into an evolving story, things that promote a positive rp atmosphere really help. This, i think, is particularly so in games that are based on worlds that already have a long standing mythos. Maybe in something where the mythos is invented for the game,it matters less if you are interacting with characters called 'F1xxjk' or'Bobsmith' and talk about the football in /say. But, in something like Star Trek or Lord of the Rings, yes, it makes a huge difference to me as a roleplayer.
No, not everyone RPs on a RP server, but, given that they have chosen to be on one means that they at least have chosen to abide, as it were, by the rp community's standards. I know that some non-rpers choose to play on RP servers because the players there tend to be older, more co-operative and mature. I know that in some non RP servers in games the rp-ers can get a rough ride.
So yes, i could find a rp guild or fleet to exist in. But why not have one RP server in addition to ones that are not? i don't think the RP community would be scattered across many, they would go to the one where they knew they'd find RP. There are a lot of RPers out there - it seems short-sighted not to cater to that community, and if the RP isn't good on the nonRP server, the community won't last long and the game will lose the sort of players who are usually in the game for the long term. A real pity for those of us who want to take the game to a high level of immersion, and a short sited move by the devs.
Anyhow, thats only my opinion, and my way to enjoy playing a game.
ChicksDigHarleys
10-30-2009, 10:26 AM
oh... so... I joined the community yesterday... and thats my big question answered. No dedicated RP PvE server.
I'll be heading back to Lotro, or even AoC then.
Very disappointed roleplayer beaming out :(
You must be from EU because the US doesn't have a RP-PvE server for AoC and there are no RP servers for LotRO here, either. :(
Here's a question. Does having a dedicated RP server really make a difference?
'cause, y'know, in my experience...it doesn't. Not really. An RP server doesn't mean everyone on the server RPs. In an IDEAL WORLD, maaaaybe you could have that perfect RP environment. But that doesn't happen in real life.
Even if the server says 'RP ONLY' in big honking letters, you're still gonna have PvPers going in there. You're still gonna have farmers. You're still gonna have gamers who type in 133t.
All the 'RP server' tag means is that the server...will have a higher population of RPers. But those RPers will still be a minority. Because most MMO players don't RP. Even people who like the setting, give proper names to their characters, write up little stories and bios...even THOSE people don't necessarily RP in-game.
I'm an RPer. But I also realise that my chosen style of gameplay is a MINORITY thing. There's no point pretending otherwise.
I'm trying Champions Online to see how this whole 'one big server' thing works out. From what I'm seeing so far, the people who want to RP...know how to find each other.
And it being a single huge server means a larger group of people to RP with, as opposed to the RP population being split over several servers.
It matters to me. I find the communities on RP servers to be far more mature than regular servers. At least on RP servers, I have a lower chance of running into Capt Pwnjoonub on the USS PEWPEWPEW, and if I do, I can /appeal him.
TBH I don't get the one server advocates. It appears this game is going to have 10,000 instances for everything, so you could go months without ever seeing someone you were in the same zone with yesterday, and if you have 200k people all on one server, is that really a community? IMO no.
Some people want to PvP anytime, anywhere and some people never or almost never PvP. Those playstyles are incompatable, as are RPers and people that hate RPers enough to go out of their way to grief them.
indigowhale345
10-30-2009, 12:42 PM
Really you should learn to be tolerant of other people and other playstyles. This is Star Trek afterall. One server is perfect for that philosophy.
And that means if you can't stay in character because other people around you aren't, that's a personal problem. Not everyone will play IC with you. Not everyone, even among ICRPers will agree with the "standards". You have to learn to accept that.
But if you stay IC, you may well entice other people to join you IC who would otherwise never have done so, so called casual ICRPers. You can't do that if you segregate.
Besides a sci-fi world is a lot easier to blur the lines with, in terms of in character or out. I could go on and on about how much I love tacos in game and who knows whether I'm IC or not? Try that in a fantasy game and some joker is going to tell you they didn't have tacos in the 12th century (which is neither true nor relevant).
minkymaid
11-01-2009, 11:54 AM
i think i am tolerant, actually. All i'm asking is to be catered for. I don't mind if a person doesn't want to RP. i do mind being treated as second class, when i am paying as much as anyone else to play the game.
what harm is there in having a rp server? if you dont want to be on that server, you don't have to join. but for those who do, its a dedicated set of players for the devs.
Peregrine_Falcon
11-01-2009, 12:00 PM
i think i am tolerant, actually. All i'm asking is to be catered for. I don't mind if a person doesn't want to RP. i do mind being treated as second class, when i am paying as much as anyone else to play the game.
what harm is there in having a rp server? if you dont want to be on that server, you don't have to join. but for those who do, its a dedicated set of players for the devs.
Hello, and welcome to the Star Trek Online forums!
The developers have said that there will only be One Server. No one is treating you as a 'second class' anything. You're getting the exact same service as everyone else.
If you'd like more information about STO, you might find these threads helpful:
Ask Cryptic Blog Compilation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=22923)
Dev Chat Transcript Compilation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=27354)
Developer Interviews (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=12530)
Everything we know about STO (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=14535)
STO Video Consolidation (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=28328)
You might also want to go here and sign up for beta testing (http://www.startrekonline.com/) if you haven't already done so.
Welcome aboard captain!
Fatherfungus
11-01-2009, 12:02 PM
short answer...no
longer answer..we asked, asked, asked, asked....and they still said no.