No Excelsior is gamebreaking for me...

[ussmonty9]

Been a major Star Trek fan for a long time but despite that, as far as I can remember, there was never been a Star Trek game that I like. STO would hopefully break that trend, since I've always dreamed of having a Star Trek based MMO. STO has a lot of things people dislike, such as "everyone is a captain", and so on. But its okay for me, I played Megatraveller back in the day so I do have an idea how all this "pet crews" and unlimited exploration would work. But I was hoping to be a captain of a starship class that I have flown since the movie, Star Trek III: Search for Spock came out.

Dunno why games set in the TNG era and beyond typically leave Excelsiors out. Being a Master of Orion player, it was with extreme disappointment that Star Trek: Birth of the Federation left it out. And the same with Dominion Wars, when despite the presence of the Excelsior class in the TV show, and the fact that Captain Erika Benteen, captain of the Excelsior Class USS Lakota is a playable character in the game, alas no Excelsior Class. I felt I wasted my money on those games since I never got to fly my favourite ship. But judging by the ship class lists, it seems STO is no exception.

It boggles the mind as to why the Excelsior is left out yet again? When I saw the latest screenshots, I for sure thought it was in. Parts of it are already available in the game such as the Centaur class saucer section and nacelles. And the star drive section is seen in the latest screenshot. Also, Star Trek cannon indicates that Constitutions have long been out of service since the TNG time frame but yet that ship class is still there. But why not Excelsiors?

I know its another thread about the lack of Excelsiors but I feel that I must start one. I hope the devs see these things and take note, as it is my only hope that ship will somehow make it. Because if its not there, no point playing STO, at least for me anyways... :(

[Rgoodfel]

I am sorry to hear that you will not be playing the game. I hope you find one that you can enjoy.

[overlordthor]

Just modify the Constitution, and Excalibur, to look like it, it is just not it in name.

[slingbladez]

I think you are jumping the gun. It's very possible one of the ships on the list is the Excelsior model just upgraded and called something else.

[Replica]

They gotta leave something from canon for the expansions.

[BreachAndClear]

No part of ST appeals to you other than the Excelsior?

[tenchi314]

Also these are just the ships for release too. There is nothing stopping them from adding more ships in the major patches/expansions. Like they might add some of these missing Federation ships when they release the future the expansion adding the Romulans as a playable faction. That way the Fed players could get some love too and not just the super ultra sexy and awesomely cool Romulan players.

[Drexxus3d]

No part of ST appeals to you other than the Excelsior?

^ This

Pre-Launch:
"If "this" isn't in the game I won't be getting it..."

Post-Launch:
"If you don't change this, i'm gonna quit playing..."

It never ends. Like someone else said, it's probably visually in the game, just called something else to fit their 3 configs per ship type thing. It's not like it's the only ship missing.

As for people saying it might be in an expansion... I highly doubt that. It wouldn't be a tier 4 ship as it's too old, and it's not common practice to go add "new content" that isn't end-game content. By the time they make an expansion, most players will be admirals and flying t4 ships, why would they add new t1 or t2 ships? It would be pointless. And if they add something as old as this one as a t4 ship, there would be rampant whinning across the galaxy with people complaining about newer, better ships not being t4 when it is, etc.

[The.Grand.Nagus]

For the record, no one has said the Excelsior wont be in game.

[peter13317]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

Bye.

[lajkalove]

if the only thing there could posible make or break the game for you was an exelsior class in the game then you might still be in luck and get to play with an ship looking like an exelsior it might not be named exelsior but atleast look like one i know that i am going to try get one of my ships to look like one atleast and hopfule be able to name it crazy horse hehe thumbs up for admiral necheyew or how its spelled :) my favorite admiral in TnG and if that cant satisfy you then i dont know what to do but i hope to see you in the game when it comes there might be an other ship in there you could like just as mouch who knows :)

[syberghost]

For all we know, Excelsior could be the pre-order perk for Best Buy or Amazon or Walmart or something.

[navarre13]

I'm sure you will be able to customize one of those listed ships to look just like an Excelsior. I think of those that are listed as being general "default" configurations. And, of course several of them share a similar style and appearance with the Excelsior. That being said, It has also be stated that we will be able to customize several different parts of our ship in multiple different ways. Don't give up hope. I'm sure your favorite "Excelsior" style will still be available to you. The same goes for several other ship styles people may find missing initially.

[TruthSeer]

For the record, no one has said the Excelsior wont be in game.

Agreed, aren't we still missing like 3 ships Fed side?

[SenatorPardek]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

Bye.

That wasn't a very sporting comment! While the omission of a ship class isn't really game breaking, he does have a legitimate point. I'm just hoping the Vesper class will satisfy his lust for that particular class.

[Stu1701]

We dont know if the Ship of the Line list is final or not, its still possible that we'll see more ships. The Cheyenne has been seen in screen shots and isnt on the list, so theres a good chance we'll see more ship as times goes on.

[Drexxus3d]

We dont know if the Ship of the Line list is final or not, its still possible that we'll see more ships. The Cheyenne has been seen in screen shots and isnt on the list, so theres a good chance we'll see more ship as times goes on.

It's still subject to change, as anything in any MMO always is, but it's probably finalized for the most part or they wouldn't have released it.

Also keep in mind, for every federation ship and variant they add, they will need a klingon ship and variant as well which is one of the main reasons they did feds first I think, so set the groundwork to know exactly how many klingon ships they would need since klingon canon has nowhere near as many vessel types they're gonna have to makeup most of them.

[tankercaptain]

If you look at it this way the Excelsior has been Starfleet's workhorse for nearly 130 years by the time STO comes about and its more than likely that it has been modified and called something else under cryptics new ships of the line plus if you check out some of the screenies especially this one:

http://www.curse.com/media/p/580403.aspx

You may see something you like.

Although i think it could be Excalibur :rolleyes:

[Jeck-Kar.Rathimon]

Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the Excaliber Class (the one that looks like the Constitution-class in the Alternate (read New) Star Trek universe) a mondern-ish version of the Constitution class, and didn't the dev's say you could customize the appearance of your ship? If the latter is the case, wouldn't it -- in theory -- be plausible to make your ship resemble the Excelsior class?

[J.L.Picard]

Been a major Star Trek fan for a long time but despite that, as far as I can remember, there was never been a Star Trek game that I like. STO would hopefully break that trend, since I've always dreamed of having a Star Trek based MMO. STO has a lot of things people dislike, such as "everyone is a captain", and so on. But its okay for me, I played Megatraveller back in the day so I do have an idea how all this "pet crews" and unlimited exploration would work. But I was hoping to be a captain of a starship class that I have flown since the movie, Star Trek III: Search for Spock came out.

Dunno why games set in the TNG era and beyond typically leave Excelsiors out. Being a Master of Orion player, it was with extreme disappointment that Star Trek: Birth of the Federation left it out. And the same with Dominion Wars, when despite the presence of the Excelsior class in the TV show, and the fact that Captain Erika Benteen, captain of the Excelsior Class USS Lakota is a playable character in the game, alas no Excelsior Class. I felt I wasted my money on those games since I never got to fly my favourite ship. But judging by the ship class lists, it seems STO is no exception.

It boggles the mind as to why the Excelsior is left out yet again? When I saw the latest screenshots, I for sure thought it was in. Parts of it are already available in the game such as the Centaur class saucer section and nacelles. And the star drive section is seen in the latest screenshot. Also, Star Trek cannon indicates that Constitutions have long been out of service since the TNG time frame but yet that ship class is still there. But why not Excelsiors?

I know its another thread about the lack of Excelsiors but I feel that I must start one. I hope the devs see these things and take note, as it is my only hope that ship will somehow make it. Because if its not there, no point playing STO, at least for me anyways... :(

All Excelsiors began being decommissioned during early 2370's and replaced by Akiras, and now the ****s at cryptic for some reason seem to think that its a T2 vessel lol.

[DarkOrion69]

Why does it matter if a particular ship is not in STO? Is only one ship worthy of the OP's captaincy? Would you throw a month of groceries just because you forgot to put your favorite cheese in the cart?

[sexymexy]

I think you are jumping the gun. It's very possible one of the ships on the list is the Excelsior model just upgraded and called something else.


^^Gonna have to agree with that.

Lots of ships we still have no Pics and Specs on.

[Kaybok]

To the OP, please be patient. If anyone should feel bad its the fans of Klingon ships. They got 2 fricken ships listed on the Klingon side. Imagine how they feel?? I'm sure they will add the Excelsior and other cannon ships later on. They are really just getting started with the ship list.

[Drexxus3d]

Would you throw a month of groceries just because you forgot to put your favorite cheese in the cart?

I would.

:D

[Roger_Wilco]

Been a major Star Trek fan for a long time but despite that, as far as I can remember, there was never been a Star Trek game that I like. STO would hopefully break that trend, since I've always dreamed of having a Star Trek based MMO. STO has a lot of things people dislike, such as "everyone is a captain", and so on. But its okay for me, I played Megatraveller back in the day so I do have an idea how all this "pet crews" and unlimited exploration would work. But I was hoping to be a captain of a starship class that I have flown since the movie, Star Trek III: Search for Spock came out.

Dunno why games set in the TNG era and beyond typically leave Excelsiors out. Being a Master of Orion player, it was with extreme disappointment that Star Trek: Birth of the Federation left it out. And the same with Dominion Wars, when despite the presence of the Excelsior class in the TV show, and the fact that Captain Erika Benteen, captain of the Excelsior Class USS Lakota is a playable character in the game, alas no Excelsior Class. I felt I wasted my money on those games since I never got to fly my favourite ship. But judging by the ship class lists, it seems STO is no exception.

It boggles the mind as to why the Excelsior is left out yet again? When I saw the latest screenshots, I for sure thought it was in. Parts of it are already available in the game such as the Centaur class saucer section and nacelles. And the star drive section is seen in the latest screenshot. Also, Star Trek cannon indicates that Constitutions have long been out of service since the TNG time frame but yet that ship class is still there. But why not Excelsiors?

I know its another thread about the lack of Excelsiors but I feel that I must start one. I hope the devs see these things and take note, as it is my only hope that ship will somehow make it. Because if its not there, no point playing STO, at least for me anyways... :(

Ummm yea its a game. Im sure after launch they may add some stuff but remember...its a game.

[amphigory]

All Excelsiors began being decommissioned during early 2370's and replaced by Akiras, and now the ****s at cryptic for some reason seem to think that its a T2 vessel lol.

Isn't there a better way to say you are disappointed with Cryptic rather than swearing? You know something about an "evolved sensibility"?

In any case, I don't think it's completely removed. I'm sure it will be in the game in some sort of form.

[gair22]

Been a major Star Trek fan for a long time but despite that, as far as I can remember, there was never been a Star Trek game that I like.

I stopped right there. How could you not like Star Trek: Armada 2, or one of the Commanders? Even the old Leisure Suit Larry sierra style games were amazing. Clearly, you have missed something somewhere.

[AlienTwo]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out...

Bye.

Not cool, man...

[AlienTwo]

To the OP, please be patient. If anyone should feel bad its the fans of Klingon ships. They got 2 fricken ships listed on the Klingon side. Imagine how they feel?? I'm sure they will add the Excelsior and other cannon ships later on. They are really just getting started with the ship list.

Agreed, there is very little Klingon content that has been released at all.

[curtst]

Isn't there a better way to say you are disappointed with Cryptic rather than swearing? You know something about an "evolved sensibility"?

In any case, I don't think it's completely removed. I'm sure it will be in the game in some sort of form.

Star Trek fan and evolved sensibility? That is freaking hilarious!

[mach789]

I honestly do not understand these kinds of posters, you will end up playing the game, stop being emo.

[Gideon]

Take a look at this screenshot. It is hard to tell from this angle but it sure looks like this is similar in style to the Excelsior. At least to me anyway.

http://www.curse.com/media/p/580403.aspx

And with ship customization you may be able to make it look exactly like an Excelsior. I'd actually be suprised if you coudn't.

[Inquizitor]

I think you are jumping the gun. It's very possible one of the ships on the list is the Excelsior model just upgraded and called something else.

You know. You've said this in other threads and I tend to agree with your assessment but I ahve to wonder, Why didn't they just use the old names if that was the case? Doing so would have immedaitey put a mental picture in peoples minds and you could even do what they did with the Oslo. Akira class (Oslo refit).

I hope you ar right but something tells me that isn't how it is going to be. Now what we MIGHT see is teh excdelsior parts shoved in with the Constitution, excalibur ships and teh Ambassador parts shoved in with the Galaxy stuff.

[Gideon]

If you look at it this way the Excelsior has been Starfleet's workhorse for nearly 130 years by the time STO comes about and its more than likely that it has been modified and called something else under cryptics new ships of the line plus if you check out some of the screenies especially this one:

http://www.curse.com/media/p/580403.aspx

You may see something you like.

Although i think it could be Excalibur :rolleyes:

Doh...I swear I checked to see if someone had posted that screenshot. Don't know how I missed it.

[BreachAndClear]

Take a look at this screenshot. It is hard to tell from this angle but it sure looks like this is similar in style to the Excelsior. At least to me anyway.

http://www.curse.com/media/p/580403.aspx

And with ship customization you may be able to make it look exactly like an Excelsior. I'd actually be suprised if you coudn't.

That's an Excalibur.

You know. You've said this in other threads and I tend to agree with your assessment but I ahve to wonder, Why didn't they just use the old names if that was the case? Doing so would have immedaitey put a mental picture in peoples minds and you could even do what they did with the Oslo. Akira class (Oslo refit).

I hope you ar right but something tells me that isn't how it is going to be. Now what we MIGHT see is teh excdelsior parts shoved in with the Constitution, excalibur ships and teh Ambassador parts shoved in with the Galaxy stuff.

There is a picture of a ship with some Excelsior parts. So, I imagine that the Excelsior exists in game under a different name. I'm guessing the Vesper is an upgraded Excelsior given how the ship we see with Excelsior parts is a Connie configuration, and the Vesper is the only unknown ship we've yet to see in that configuration. Otherwise, the Excelsior might just exist as a possible customization.

[Gideon]

That's an Excalibur.

Ok

For all we know, Excelsior could be the pre-order perk for Best Buy or Amazon or Walmart or something.

Or it could be that these ships are special loot for certain missions or achievements/milestones in game.

[Inquizitor]

I hope it isn't the latter. if anything the Constitution class would make alot more sense as a special reward like that. The Excelsior was canon well into the next generation shows. IT makes more sense being a mainstream ship than a Constitution does.

[BreachAndClear]

I hope it isn't the latter. if anything the Constitution class would make alot more sense as a special reward like that. The Excelsior was canon well into the next generation shows. IT makes more sense being a mainstream ship than a Constitution does.

Ships in the same configuration have interchangeable parts. It's possible that some alterations had to be made by Cryptic to ease customization (getting rid of the size discrepancy between the Ambassador and Galaxy, adding a roll bar to the Norway/Oslo, etc).

If they made changes to the Excelsior it might be to a degree that the game's "Excelsior" looks slightly different from the ship in canon and so got a new name. For instance the name Ambassador is thematically similar to the name Envoy. I assume the Envoy is an updated Ambassador, possibly made larger to get rid of the size discrepancy as I mentioned earlier, so that the Galaxy and Ambassador components would fit together and hold the same amount of technologies, etc.

[TheGow]

edit: wrong thread

[JMD10222]

Check this one out at Massivly. It has to be an Excelsior.
http://www.massively.com/2009/09/29/five-hot-new-star-trek-online-screens/

Besides, Zinc mentioned that each "class" has multiple configurations altering the role of the ship. Steamrunners are not on the list, but it was mentioned that they were in as a config of the Akira. I bet the Excelsior is a configuration of the Connie.

[FINALCUT]

WTF!!!! Someone at Cryptic said they are not adding flying pink space monkeys as a playable race. WTF is wrong with these guys at Cryptic. Thats a total game breaker for me. I quit,Im not playing anymore. Wah,Wahhhhhhh,Wah. To the OP, Seriously dude,you got issues.;)

[ussawsomeness]

WTF!!!! Someone at Cryptic said they are not adding flying pink space monkeys as a playable race. WTF is wrong with these guys at Cryptic. Thats a total game breaker for me. I quit,Im not playing anymore. Wah,Wahhhhhhh,Wah. To the OP, Seriously dude,you got issues.;)

they won't have flying pink space monkeys?
dang cryptic! what a ripp off! :mad:
lol

[Archangelwoghd]

Been a major Star Trek fan for a long time but despite that, as far as I can remember, there was never been a Star Trek game that I like. STO would hopefully break that trend, since I've always dreamed of having a Star Trek based MMO. STO has a lot of things people dislike, such as "everyone is a captain", and so on. But its okay for me, I played Megatraveller back in the day so I do have an idea how all this "pet crews" and unlimited exploration would work. But I was hoping to be a captain of a starship class that I have flown since the movie, Star Trek III: Search for Spock came out.

Dunno why games set in the TNG era and beyond typically leave Excelsiors out. Being a Master of Orion player, it was with extreme disappointment that Star Trek: Birth of the Federation left it out. And the same with Dominion Wars, when despite the presence of the Excelsior class in the TV show, and the fact that Captain Erika Benteen, captain of the Excelsior Class USS Lakota is a playable character in the game, alas no Excelsior Class. I felt I wasted my money on those games since I never got to fly my favourite ship. But judging by the ship class lists, it seems STO is no exception.

It boggles the mind as to why the Excelsior is left out yet again? When I saw the latest screenshots, I for sure thought it was in. Parts of it are already available in the game such as the Centaur class saucer section and nacelles. And the star drive section is seen in the latest screenshot. Also, Star Trek cannon indicates that Constitutions have long been out of service since the TNG time frame but yet that ship class is still there. But why not Excelsiors?

I know its another thread about the lack of Excelsiors but I feel that I must start one. I hope the devs see these things and take note, as it is my only hope that ship will somehow make it. Because if its not there, no point playing STO, at least for me anyways... :(



Um...so are you quitting EVERY game on the net? Because non of them have Excelsiors either. Why not make your OWN game? Actually, I just realized this is troll-bait...and I'm not playing...

[wrussandrews]

I suggest you try the game first before making such a decision.

[koric]

OP, that's a little one dimensional for a reason to not play a game isn't it? That's like saying if my starfleet uniform won't have pink pants then I'm out!

[DoctorX]

I feel the OPs pain. When WOW came out I was very disappointed. I searched and searched the world for the single profession that appealed to me. By the time I hit level 80 I quit. I couldn't believe they left out the mud farmer profession. What were they thinking?

[phlyto]

Um...so are you quitting EVERY game on the net? Because non of them have Excelsiors either. Why not make your OWN game? Actually, I just realized this is troll-bait...and I'm not playing...

The only way to win is not to play.

How about a nice game of chess?

[Aerelleus]

I bet Sulu cried when he saw this

[crazy_guy]

Hey guys,

I am very disappointed how this thread is being handled by you...

In the ship list threat every second post mentioned the Excelsior left out wtf :eek: but if someone mentioned it in an own treat everyone is nearly flaming.

I am for my part would love to see the Excelsior in the game as it is my favourite ship. And everyone will do what he could to see his favourite ingame.

So I support every threat and every post that is mentioned the lack of the Excelsior because MAYBE some devs will get aware of the posts/treats and we will see the Excelsior ingame :D

If you think it's whining think about all the guys that think it's armageddon that the Akira is just T2...

[FlabaFlopesa]

okay first, we don't even know if the excelisor is OR is not in it!
Second, we've seen a modernised version of the constitution class called the excalibur class, we may find a new excelsior class called something else
Third, we've seen the option to adjust certain ships with excellisor visuals!
Fourth, why aren't people more concerned with the lack of Klingon faction information?

[Eclipse1987]

it might be in another class, so take it back a level.

if this is a dealbreaker, my response to you is the same as it is to all the other similar threads:


Go join the long line of players who at one point or another have been dissapointed with something cryptic did or didn't do to the point they quit sto and QQ with them.

[Zepath]

While I don't believe for a minute that he won't play the game ... I think you guys need to back off a little.

I have had "game breaking" decisions by Dev's that have caused me to move on ... and I don't know of anyone in my regular playing circle of friends that haven't.

Anyone who plays games as a hobby has.

Just wish the guy well, say good bye, and move on.

[WinterPark1701]

First, I'd like to point out that the Excelsior would be around 120 years old by the time this game starts. In todays world that would be like taking the USS Enterprise from 1874 on patrol off the coast of Iraq. Also its a little lame that you'd find this as a game breaker.

[Aerelleus]

yeah but the same goes for the miranda and constitution by those regards so i feel that it will be in mainly due to the fact that list isnt complete yet. Im feeling ya klingons need more ships.

[FlabaFlopesa]

isn't the constitution stopped being made in the tng era - I mean 100% completely phased out, no refits?

[ussmonty9]

First of all, thank you for those that show some support and symphathy. I really appreciate it.

I'm not quitting the game, not sure how you can quit a game that hasn't even begun beta. But I can't see myself dedicating the time and effort on an MMO that doesn't have something to aim for that one would like. After all, that is why people take the time and expense because they want to aim for something in a MMO, whether it be an uber character, a nice looking one, have the best gear or even a prominent place in the MMO's community. For STO, the key for me being attached to this particular game is the Excelsior. Having the opportunity to be a captain of a starship that I loved since childhood is important to me.

Second, I am fully aware of the screenshot from Massive, its the screenshot I was referring too in my original post showing the Excelsior's stardrive section. While it is true that we can theoretically piece components to make an Excelsior class, two unknowns remain: the neck which attaches the saucer and the star drive is unique for the Excelsior (a bit bulky, unlike the ones from Constitution or Excalibur), and the U shape pylons that connect the nacelles from the star drive section. Those are not present in any screenshot and if that screenshot in Massive is the so called Vespa class or Excelsior version of cryptic, oh my! That's not good at all.

I am not worried about the lack of Klingon ships since we already know that a lot are there due to screenshots. For all we know, the delay is the Devs are looking for the latest Klingon dictionary so they can properly name them. But unlike the Klingon ships, Federation ships are extremely diverse, so chances are there are classes that will be cut off. And the fact that super old classes like Miranda, Constituion and Constellation are there, but not Excelsior, clearly age of the ship shouldn't be a factor.

If the Excelsior will be in the game somehow, would I still play other ships and factions? Of course I would. I already have a Klingon character, background and all, written up for roleplaying purposes...heh. But it is my intent that my "main" would be a captain of an Excelsior ship. Even if I have to advance through the ranks and temporarily use the bigger ships for gameplay purposes, I heart will always be on the Excelsior, will still use it as much as I can, and knowing I can fly it will make me happy in the game.


And one more thing...

The lack of a certain starship class has historically riled up players before. Anybody who was following Star Wars: Empire at War could recall the huge public outcry in the LucasArts Forum when the devs excluded the Venator Star Destroyer due to balancing reasons. There were thousands of posts, people threatenining to not play the game, and so on. The devs did listen, and although they released the game without the Venator (because the game was about to ship and too late to add), they did tell players how to modify the game so they can add the ship in. Result was a lot of happy Empire at War players (including me). I'm sincerely hoping Cryptic would do the same not only for the Excelsior, but also those other missing starship classes people want in.

[ibby1kanobi]

First of all, thank you for those that show some support and symphathy. I really appreciate it.

I'm not quitting the game, not sure how you can quit a game that hasn't even begun beta. But I can't see myself dedicating the time and effort on an MMO that doesn't have something to aim for that one would like. After all, that is why people take the time and expense because they want to aim for something in a MMO, whether it be an uber character, a nice looking one, have the best gear or even a prominent place in the MMO's community. For STO, the key for me being attached to this particular game is the Excelsior. Having the opportunity to be a captain of a starship that I loved since childhood is important to me.

Second, I am fully aware of the screenshot from Massive, its the screenshot I was referring too in my original post showing the Excelsior's stardrive section. While it is true that we can theoretically piece components to make an Excelsior class, two unknowns remain: the neck which attaches the saucer and the star drive is unique for the Excelsior (a bit bulky, unlike the ones from Constitution or Excalibur), and the U shape pylons that connect the nacelles from the star drive section. Those are not present in any screenshot and if that screenshot in Massive is the so called Vespa class or Excelsior version of cryptic, oh my! That's not good at all.

I am not worried about the lack of Klingon ships since we already know that a lot are there due to screenshots. For all we know, the delay is the Devs are looking for the latest Klingon dictionary so they can properly name them. But unlike the Klingon ships, Federation ships are extremely diverse, so chances are there are classes that will be cut off. And the fact that super old classes like Miranda, Constituion and Constellation are there, but not Excelsior, clearly age of the ship shouldn't be a factor.

If the Excelsior will be in the game somehow, would I still play other ships and factions? Of course I would. I already have a Klingon character, background and all, written up for roleplaying purposes...heh. But it is my intent that my "main" would be a captain of an Excelsior ship. Even if I have to advance through the ranks and temporarily use the bigger ships for gameplay purposes, I heart will always be on the Excelsior, will still use it as much as I can, and knowing I can fly it will make me happy in the game.


And one more thing...

The lack of a certain starship class has historically riled up players before. Anybody who was following Star Wars: Empire at War could recall the huge public outcry in the LucasArts Forum when the devs excluded the Venator Star Destroyer due to balancing reasons. There were thousands of posts, people threatenining to not play the game, and so on. The devs did listen, and although they released the game without the Venator (because the game was about to ship and too late to add), they did tell players how to modify the game so they can add the ship in. Result was a lot of happy Empire at War players (including me). I'm sincerely hoping Cryptic would do the same not only for the Excelsior, but also those other missing starship classes people want in.


You said "If it's not there.....I'm not playing this game".

They've said you can create an Excelsior class from different parts. Sure, it won't be scale or exact, but it'll be close enough. I really wanted the Ambassador, but it isn't in there....does that mean I won't play an entire ST MMO?

If so, then you're looking for a simulator in which you can captain an Excelsior class starship, not an ST MMO. Hopefully they add it in, and hopefully they add in a lot of other ships. I'm sure that they are saving some stuff for expansions. A refitted and updated Excelsior, Ambassador, and many other ships.

I really hope you see your ship one day, but to quit over that alone is sort of....yeah well you get my point.

Goodluck.

[BreachAndClear]

I would be surprised if the Envoy doesn't turn out to be an updated Ambassador.

As for the Excelsior. If what Gozer said is true, then the Vesper looks like it will be an updated Excelsior (or at least will have some Excelsior components, if not all of them). The picture floating around of the ship with Excelsior nacelles and stardrive section might be a picture of a Vesper (in which case the Vesper isn't a complete replica of the Excelsior) or it might be a picture of a customization of a Vesper mixed with Constitution and/or Excalibur parts (in which case the base Vesper might be more-or-less a replica of the Excelsior).

[Arctic_Wolf]

Been a major Star Trek fan for a long time but despite that, as far as I can remember, there was never been a Star Trek game that I like. STO would hopefully break that trend, since I've always dreamed of having a Star Trek based MMO. STO has a lot of things people dislike, such as "everyone is a captain", and so on. But its okay for me, I played Megatraveller back in the day so I do have an idea how all this "pet crews" and unlimited exploration would work. But I was hoping to be a captain of a starship class that I have flown since the movie, Star Trek III: Search for Spock came out.

Dunno why games set in the TNG era and beyond typically leave Excelsiors out. Being a Master of Orion player, it was with extreme disappointment that Star Trek: Birth of the Federation left it out. And the same with Dominion Wars, when despite the presence of the Excelsior class in the TV show, and the fact that Captain Erika Benteen, captain of the Excelsior Class USS Lakota is a playable character in the game, alas no Excelsior Class. I felt I wasted my money on those games since I never got to fly my favourite ship. But judging by the ship class lists, it seems STO is no exception.

It boggles the mind as to why the Excelsior is left out yet again? When I saw the latest screenshots, I for sure thought it was in. Parts of it are already available in the game such as the Centaur class saucer section and nacelles. And the star drive section is seen in the latest screenshot. Also, Star Trek cannon indicates that Constitutions have long been out of service since the TNG time frame but yet that ship class is still there. But why not Excelsiors?

I know its another thread about the lack of Excelsiors but I feel that I must start one. I hope the devs see these things and take note, as it is my only hope that ship will somehow make it. Because if its not there, no point playing STO, at least for me anyways... :(

The lack of patience on this forum is astounding. If your telling us your gonna leave because of this (which isnt decided as of yet) then do so. I you want to man up and grow some patience then stick around and see what happens. (CLICK) that was easy.........i love that button...lol :cool:

[seanftd]

cryptic have been adding ships to the list for months now so theres every change that the excelsior may still be added, and anyway im sure ull find a ship u like if u actually try they the game rather than shoot it down , u have also said uv seen differant parts of her on other ships u never know u might be able to put them together and have ur beloved ship, dnt get me wrong i thinkg she should be in it to but if shes not im still buying it

[Aslan_chShran]

Hey, you think its bad that there won't be an Excelsior class, just think there won't be any hot dogs, either. Christ.

[phifur]

This is not the Excelsior class? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cGiH9MW6f4

[seanftd]

This is not the Excelsior class? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cGiH9MW6f4

i think tht is excaliber class on the vid

[Doug3575]

It is too bad that they will not include the Excelsior Class. I myself had hoped to see this class in game. Many here have suggested that you can mix and match parts to creat one. Which is a great idea. But to say you will not play the game because of it is a bit over the top. If you look at the game play on Youtube it looks like to much fun to miss out on. You should change your mind.

[BreachAndClear]

i think tht is excaliber class on the vid

It looks like this (http://www.massively.com/2009/09/29/five-hot-new-star-trek-online-screens/) ship to me. It might be a Vesper, or a customized mix and match of parts.

[Laurelin]

Those are all Excalibur pics. The Saucer attachment on Excelscior is much wider and shorter, and the Warp pylons are closer in design to the Galaxy's than the Constitution's tall angled supports.

We know the Centaur is in the game, and it has the saucer and warp engines from the Excelscior, all they would need to do is add a secondary hull. We don't know just how many parts there are available for you to customise each ship class, I'm sure there will be more parts than just those from the 3 ship classes in each group to work with. One could be an Excelscior secondary hull, probably in the Constitution group since that is the closest matching style.