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IanD967
09-26-2009, 01:55 AM
i did look but didnt find much of a discussion on this new screenshot within this section of the forums and wanted to know if anyone else noticed the piles of saucers and wresckages from the many Vigilant-class ships? :)
oh and i think there was a Klingon ship there aswell as an Excalibur class wrecakge.

image with key and markings (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/63177412.jpg/)

(aopolgies of low quality. you can see them clearly if you go and check the original picture using the markings as a reference)

DerManiac
09-26-2009, 02:05 AM
All I noticed when I looked at the screenshot was that there is not exactly a lot of wreckage from the giant borg cube.
It looks like it was completely hollow on the inside.

overlordthor
09-26-2009, 02:14 AM
I think your stretching too far out on a limb. Those may just be peices of the Cube scattered everywhere, the only thing distinguishing them from the rest of it is really the color of them, which may not be continuous in a Cube, sure, some are rounded, or pointy.

It's possible that they are from others, but they could just be parts from inside the Cube.

IanD967
09-26-2009, 02:31 AM
go check the purple one again, i think you will find it is actually an Excalibur class looking like the TMP's version of the Enterprise.

and although yes they might be parts of the cube but last time i check they didnt attach other starships onto the cubes for armour.
plus doesnt it strike odd to you that all of that wreckage looks all the same for a blown up Cube? one thing i noticed was that Cube's do not have round peices attached to them hence the name "Cube" because you know, its shaped like a Cube and not a saucer.

overlordthor
09-26-2009, 02:54 AM
go check the purple one again, i think you will find it is actually an Excalibur class looking like the TMP's version of the Enterprise.

and although yes they might be parts of the cube but last time i check they didnt attach other starships onto the cubes for armour.
plus doesnt it strike odd to you that all of that wreckage looks all the same for a blown up Cube? one thing i noticed was that Cube's do not have round peices attached to them hence the name "Cube" because you know, its shaped like a Cube and not a saucer.

http://www.startrek.com/imageuploads/200509/mov-008-interior-359-cube/320x240.jpg
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/4/4a/Borg_cube_interior%2C_2366.jpg
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/en/images/d/d8/Borg_cube_hanger_bay.jpg

The interior of a borg cube isn't all cube shaped, only the exterior of the hull is specifically cube shaped.
Parts inside are all just made to serve a purpose, they can be round, saucer shaped, huge metal sections of the hull, some conical parts, large as Federation ships. At least once a Borg Diamond was integrated inside a Cube.
When a Borg cube comes apart, the interior isn't just disintegrated, it brakes apart, pieces are warped into many shapes, holes are torn into metal frames.

The purple circled one, while it resembles a starfleet configuration, is too discolored, I think it resembles a hole torn through a huge metal piece of the cube. If the piece turned to the side, we could really tell.

Its possible they are pieces of other races ships, but I also think its possible they are pieces of the cube.

ransomwk
09-26-2009, 02:55 AM
one thing i noticed was that Cube's do not have round peices attached to them hence the name "Cube" because you know, its shaped like a Cube and not a saucer.

I've seen round bits on/inside cubes. Just cause the ship is square doesn't mean all the pieces are square too. :D:p Besides, some of those bits of wreckage are too small to positively identify. Don't get me wrong though, you've got some good guesses.

IanD967
09-26-2009, 03:32 AM
ok yes i do agree with circled sections within a ship (there has to be at somepoint) but that still doesnt state that they all have to look the exactly the same each time.

but with this one i know i am right:

The purple circled one, while it resembles a starfleet configuration, is too discolored, I think it resembles a hole torn through a huge metal piece of the cube. If the piece turned to the side, we could really tell.

Its possible they are pieces of other races ships, but I also think its possible they are pieces of the cube.

it is DEFINANTLY an Excalibur class ship in the Enterprise variant as you can undoubtly tell from this picture: http://img42.imageshack.us/i/29346284.png/
(got the wrong spec picture :( was meant to be of the Enterprise-A)

overlordthor
09-26-2009, 04:04 AM
ok yes i do agree with circled sections within a ship (there has to be at somepoint) but that still doesnt state that they all have to look the exactly the same each time.

but with this one i know i am right:


it is DEFINANTLY an Excalibur class ship in the Enterprise variant as you can undoubtly tell from this picture: http://img42.imageshack.us/i/29346284.png/
(got the wrong spec picture :( was meant to be of the Enterprise-A)

Ok, that one, I might call a federation ship, I zoomed in, on the original found it, and yes, the ship does have the lower half of the saucer, and raised nacelle structure, and a gap between the nacelle and the saucer looking part.

I am not going to say its an Excalibur class, I'd say its anything from a Constitution, Excelsior, and up to the Excalibur class. But its not a Galaxy or a Sovy, of course.

You chose a very unreasonable ship to see in the thing though Enterprise-A, is a a few years out of date.

At the far right is also something very similar, I believe its tilted just far enough to make out a second nacelle. these two ships are oddly very intact to have been destroyed/abandoned.

The other parts though, dont appear to resemble strongly any other ship, sure a few saucerish shaped things which could be parts of the cube, because they dont appear to have any remnants of attachments to a "neck", or the side nacelles of a Defiant/Vigilant. The so called Klingon and romulan ones, I dont see at all how they are, and the other bright parts are just bright parts floating. Its possible some are from fed ships, but they could just as easily be Borg parts.

Musterion
09-26-2009, 04:10 AM
I see two fed ships, what might be an olymic class in the distance to the top right, a vigilant/defiant cruising through the wreckage, and what looks like klingon bird-of-prey wreckage. I love this screenshot, it will keep me entertained for hours :p

The.Grand.Nagus
09-26-2009, 04:36 AM
All I have to say is: LMAO :o

IanD967
09-26-2009, 04:44 AM
Ok, that one, I might call a federation ship, I zoomed in, on the original found it, and yes, the ship does have the lower half of the saucer, and raised nacelle structure, and a gap between the nacelle and the saucer looking part.

I am not going to say its an Excalibur class, I'd say its anything from a Constitution, Excelsior, and up to the Excalibur class. But its not a Galaxy or a Sovy, of course.

You chose a very unreasonable ship to see in the thing though Enterprise-A, is a a few years out of date.

At the far right is also something very similar, I believe its tilted just far enough to make out a second nacelle. these two ships are oddly very intact to have been destroyed/abandoned.

The other parts though, dont appear to resemble strongly any other ship, sure a few saucerish shaped things which could be parts of the cube, because they dont appear to have any remnants of attachments to a "neck", or the side nacelles of a Defiant/Vigilant. The so called Klingon and romulan ones, I dont see at all how they are, and the other bright parts are just bright parts floating. Its possible some are from fed ships, but they could just as easily be Borg parts.

The Excalibur class (the updated Connie class) in-game also includes options of making it into: The Constitution, the Constitution class refit, Excelsior aswell as its own class. but yes defo not a galaxy or Sov.

it has been confirmed and shown that you can have the old Consitution refit if you so wish and was also shown in the Hailing Frequencies PAZ videos.

and they could be intact because it could very possibly be related to a mission that also involves this screenshot (as you can see outside the window you see the ship again) http://pax.gamespot.com/image_viewer/6216820/star-trek-online-exclusive-hands-on-starflight-and-away-team-gameplay/7/?rgroup=pax09_story&tag=thumbs_below;thumb;2#site_nav

the Klingon/Romulan ships to me look ALOT like the recent Vo'Quv fighter's (4 of which are also seen in this screenshot http://images.mmorpg.com/features/3514/images/3514_3.jpg)

the ones that are in red (in the original picture i posted) really do have a defiant'ish design to them and although they dont look like the Defiant of Vigilant (although similar) it could very possibly be the Gallant class (as mentioned in the Vigilant's SotL post)

slingbladez
09-26-2009, 06:19 AM
I found a few things that you didn't

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/2275/screenshot2009081113101.jpg

Sinclair
09-26-2009, 06:22 AM
All I noticed when I looked at the screenshot was that there is not exactly a lot of wreckage from the giant borg cube.
It looks like it was completely hollow on the inside.

I agree, someone must have salvaged from the cube as it was pretty empty.

IanD967
09-26-2009, 06:50 AM
I found a few things that you didn't

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/2275/screenshot2009081113101.jpg

they are pretty much the exact same things i found excep in a different colour scheme.

slingbladez
09-26-2009, 07:59 AM
they are pretty much the exact same things i found excep in a different colour scheme.

Actually i found two new whole federation ships in the bottom right.

IanD967
09-26-2009, 08:20 AM
go back and check my other pictures :p seen of them myself even the one on the far bottom right but since it was in the same state as the first one and looks the same it was pointless mentioning both of them.

Musterion
09-26-2009, 08:23 AM
All that matters is that this is the closest we've come to a screenshot of the Defiant :p

jamesmidsen
09-26-2009, 09:34 AM
Am I the only person who rememebrs that a Transwarp coil is a copper coloured cilindrical form? It's quite likeley that theae sections could be transwarp coils. And i'd say it looks like this cube was torn to bits by some kind of gravometric shearing force.

Azurian
09-26-2009, 09:44 AM
i did look but didnt find much of a discussion on this new screenshot within this section of the forums and wanted to know if anyone else noticed the piles of saucers and wresckages from the many Vigilant-class ships? :)
oh and i think there was a Klingon ship there aswell as an Excalibur class wrecakge.

image with key and markings (http://img36.imageshack.us/i/63177412.jpg/)

(aopolgies of low quality. you can see them clearly if you go and check the original picture using the markings as a reference)

It's the same ship graveyard we saw previously, but this time it was from far away.

Varrangian
09-26-2009, 09:47 AM
It's the same ship graveyard we saw previously, but this time it was from far away.

Bingo. It would appear the majority of screenies we are getting are from two sources. The P'jem episode and whatever this ship graveyard episode is.

jpinks
09-26-2009, 10:35 AM
UHM is it just me or does no one find it strange that we cant see any Klingon ship parts?? I mean we have whole Klingon ships but I looked for a bit but didnt see any pieces I could ID as Klingon.