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one thing i never understood is why star trek use the abbreviation USS (United Space Ship?) for starfleet's ships. why not change to FSS (Federation StarShip) or SFS (StarFleet Ship)?
or SS (Starfleet Ship), but is already used in star trek by the civilian ship but i dont know what it mean, anyway we can change even this!
No1UKnow
09-05-2009, 02:17 AM
ask mr roddenberry for permission to change it
SelorKiith
09-05-2009, 02:17 AM
Because USS sounds cool... FSS or SFS not ;)
one thing i never understood is why star trek use the abbreviation USS (United Space Ship?) for starfleet's ships. why not change to FSS (Federation StarShip) or SFS (StarFleet Ship)?
or SS (Starfleet Ship), but is already used in star trek by the civilian ship but i dont know what it mean, anyway we can change even this!
Simple. Star Trek is an American TV series.
American navy ships use 'USS' as a naming prefix. United States Ship. Like, say, USS Abraham Lincoln. USS Los Angeles, USS Nimitz...
Or, you know, USS Enterprise - the current USS Enterprise aircraft carrier was in service for a few years before Star Trek began. Where do you think the name comes from?
Is it any surprise that a TV series that first aired in the 1960s, intended primarily for an American audience, would use a familiar prefix for their ship names? And, hell, a traditional ship name? They didn't just pick 'Enterprise' randomly.
It's true that Roddenberry and the other Trek creators tried to make their show as international as possible, by showing characters of different genders and races. And it's also true that the show was only really successful in subsequent syndication.
But at the same time, it was still originally very much an American production.
Admiral_Trane
09-05-2009, 02:32 AM
It stands for United Space Ship or United Star Ship
Also the Enterprise was originally going to be named Yorktown.
No1UKnow
09-05-2009, 02:33 AM
Simple. Star Trek is an American TV series.
American navy ships use 'USS' as a naming prefix. United States Ship. Like, say, USS Abraham Lincoln. USS Los Angeles, USS Nimitz...
Or, you know, USS Enterprise - the current USS Enterprise aircraft carrier was in service for a few years before Star Trek began. Where do you think the name comes from?
Is it any surprise that a TV series that first aired in the 1960s, intended primarily for an American audience, would use a familiar prefix for their ship names? And, hell, a traditional ship name? They didn't just pick 'Enterprise' randomly.
It's true that Roddenberry and the other Trek creators tried to make their show as international as possible, by showing characters of different genders and races. And it's also true that the show was only really successful in subsequent syndication.
But at the same time, it was still originally very much an American production.
Voted Best Answer. I would expect this to be the most true answer. It probably wasn't until people began saying nerdy things like, "Well if it's from Earth, why is it USS?" that they had to take a bite of a twix bar and say, "Oh USS means United Space Ship; not United States Ship, silly!"
Admiral_Trane
09-05-2009, 02:36 AM
Not necessarily I mean it makes sense since it's a ship of the UNITED Federation of Planet
Not necessarily I mean it makes sense since it's a ship of the UNITED Federation of Planet
Except that the United Federation of Planets is referred to, generally, as the 'UFP' or 'Federation'.
We don't call it the 'U' or 'United' in short form. It'd be more logical to format the ship name prefix as 'UFPS' or 'FS', but a) that doesn't look as good, and b) we already use 'USS Shipname' anyway.
It's more likely that the 1960s Star Trek creators simply decided to call their starship the USS Enterprise, following American Navy conventions. Because their audience would expect a big ship to be called 'USS Shipname'.
The explanation that the acronym stands for 'United Space Ship' (or United Star Ship, according to some sources), probably came later...after the decision had been made to call it the USS Enterprise.
Whatever the case, we're stuck with it now. Seriously. Can't change it. Even if a minority of fans dislike it, the vast majority are used to it. In Star Trek, Federation ships are called USS Shipname. That's how it is, and that's how it'll continue to be - no matter how illogical the naming system might seem from an in-universe standpoint.
Simple. Star Trek is an American TV series.
American navy ships use 'USS' as a naming prefix. United States Ship. Like, say, USS Abraham Lincoln. USS Los Angeles, USS Nimitz...
Or, you know, USS Enterprise - the current USS Enterprise aircraft carrier was in service for a few years before Star Trek began. Where do you think the name comes from?
Is it any surprise that a TV series that first aired in the 1960s, intended primarily for an American audience, would use a familiar prefix for their ship names? And, hell, a traditional ship name? They didn't just pick 'Enterprise' randomly.
It's true that Roddenberry and the other Trek creators tried to make their show as international as possible, by showing characters of different genders and races. And it's also true that the show was only really successful in subsequent syndication.
But at the same time, it was still originally very much an American production.
Just had to point out because i'm a history nut, L'enterpize a french ship captured by the English and re-named H.M.S Enterprise roughly 200 years before the show. There's been many others before the aircraft carrier.
Sumoben
09-05-2009, 06:36 AM
Just had to point out because i'm a history nut, L'enterpize a french ship captured by the English and re-named H.M.S Enterprise roughly 200 years before the show. There's been many other before the aircraft carrier.
I thought it was H.M.S Enterprize, with a Z. O_o?
I thought it was H.M.S Enterprize, with a Z. O_o?
Can be either there's been more than 1.
I think the Z was a 66 gun. Oopps it was a 44.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Enterprise
But that's wiki, i'll have a look through my Grandad's old books next time i go over to be sure.
I would think more about what the word/name Enterprise means as to why Rodenberry used it.
Sumoben
09-05-2009, 06:38 AM
Can be either there's been more than 1.
Well that explains a bit. :o
tyranastrasz
09-05-2009, 06:38 AM
Voted Best Answer. I would expect this to be the most true answer. It probably wasn't until people began saying nerdy things like, "Well if it's from Earth, why is it USS?" that they had to take a bite of a twix bar and say, "Oh USS means United Space Ship; not United States Ship, silly!"
I dunno, I remember hearing "I'm Captain James Kirk of the United StarShip Enterprise" pretty often in season 1.
Plus USS Enterprise sounds a lot better than UFP Enterprise.
Sumoben
09-05-2009, 07:16 AM
Plus USS Enterprise sounds a lot better than UFP Enterprise.
Well, mostly to an American audience (myself included) at least. :D
Well, mostly to an American audience (myself included) at least. :D
Yea true, but then look how global it's gone, can't of bothered to many non Americans:D
silvirel
09-05-2009, 07:42 AM
OK this should stop this weird debat in it's tracks. USS has been canonized completly. If cryptic changed that it wouldn;t be star trek anymore.
Besides I am no American; I am a Canadian and I think USS Enterprise sounds way better then every other option that has been put forth.
So to summerize. 1) can't change it , it is cannon 2) A non-American thinks it shold stay the same.:eek:
OK this should stop this weird debat in it's tracks. USS has been canonized completly. If cryptic changed that it wouldn;t be star trek anymore.
Besides I am no American; I am a Canadian and I think USS Enterprise sounds way better then every other option that has been put forth.
So to summerize. 1) can't change it , it is cannon 2) A non-American thinks it shold stay the same.:eek:
Let history never forget the name Enterprise.
Paulo999
09-05-2009, 07:50 AM
im going ISS :D
The_Padre
09-05-2009, 07:53 AM
Just had to point out because i'm a history nut, L'enterpize a french ship captured by the English and re-named H.M.S Enterprise roughly 200 years before the show. There's been many others before the aircraft carrier.
The Royal Navy currently operates an Echo-class Survey vessel named Enterprise, her page on their site has a basic history of the ships that have had that name: Enterprise History (http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/surface-fleet/hydrographic-vessels/multi-role-survey-vessels/hms-enterprise/history/)
pgene
09-05-2009, 08:01 AM
ask mr roddenberry for permission to change it
:D made my day, :D
eNDIE
09-05-2009, 08:05 AM
yep it was an american tv series and therefor USS everything else is an afterconstruktion to make it fit in , many things in trek are like that , such as the kling ridges etc.
The Royal Navy currently operates an Echo-class Survey vessel named Enterprise, her page on their site has a basic history of the ships that have had that name: Enterprise History (http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/operations-and-support/surface-fleet/hydrographic-vessels/multi-role-survey-vessels/hms-enterprise/history/)
Cheers, that explains the various spelling of Enterpise. It's great the name is carrying on, one day they're will be space ship Enterpise.
It stands for United Space Ship or United Star Ship
Also the Enterprise was originally going to be named Yorktown.
Yorktown was also the name of several US Aircraft carriers, the second of which is preserved as a museum in Charleston, South Carolina.
Mr. Roddenberry was fond of American carrier names, almost all of them showed up repeatedly during TOS and the TMP movies.
Enterprise
Saratoga
Yorktown
Intrepid
Lexington
Constellation
Vlherg
09-05-2009, 12:13 PM
Voted Best Answer. I would expect this to be the most true answer. It probably wasn't until people began saying nerdy things like, "Well if it's from Earth, why is it USS?" that they had to take a bite of a twix bar and say, "Oh USS means United Space Ship; not United States Ship, silly!"
I just watched "The Cage" this evening. Captain Pike states that he is from the United Space Ship Enterprise.
Seems it was intended that way from the very start.
Cataclysmic.Alluvium
09-05-2009, 12:17 PM
A ship from united space? A united group of space ships, all under one flag? United Federation of Planets? Would have been smarter if all of the Federation member states (non-human) used the USS prefix to be honest, but it doesn't sound that odd to me.
WarpVis
09-05-2009, 01:21 PM
Except that the United Federation of Planets is referred to, generally, as the 'UFP' or 'Federation'.
We don't call it the 'U' or 'United' in short form. It'd be more logical to format the ship name prefix as 'UFPS' or 'FS', but a) that doesn't look as good, and b) we already use 'USS Shipname' anyway.
It's more likely that the 1960s Star Trek creators simply decided to call their starship the USS Enterprise, following American Navy conventions. Because their audience would expect a big ship to be called 'USS Shipname'.
The explanation that the acronym stands for 'United Space Ship' (or United Star Ship, according to some sources), probably came later...after the decision had been made to call it the USS Enterprise.
Whatever the case, we're stuck with it now. Seriously. Can't change it. Even if a minority of fans dislike it, the vast majority are used to it. In Star Trek, Federation ships are called USS Shipname. That's how it is, and that's how it'll continue to be - no matter how illogical the naming system might seem from an in-universe standpoint.
Earlier in developement of TOS and into the first few episodes the Federation was referred to as United Space.
decoy26517
09-05-2009, 02:34 PM
Gene Roddenberry referred to USS as United Space Ship.
SenatorPardek
09-05-2009, 03:27 PM
I just watched "The Cage" this evening. Captain Pike states that he is from the United Space Ship Enterprise.
Seems it was intended that way from the very start.
Beat me to the punch.
Zepath
09-05-2009, 03:55 PM
Ok, two things I've read ....
a) Its was never supposed to the U.S.S. Enterprise .... the original scripts provided Desilu Studios for the pilot and the first two episodes, had it as the U.S.S. Yorktown.
But the real U.S.S. Enterprise (CVN-65) had been commisioned just a couple of years before, and it was the most modern, state of the art, ship we had at the time ... and they decided to go with Enterprise.
B) Roddenberry also wanted to use UFS (United Federation Ship) instead of USS ... but at the request of the studio, he changed it.
You have to remember, this was the early 60s (when he was pitching all this) ... which was the height of the cold war, and we were in a race to the moon with the Russians.
The Studio wanted to make it clear (given Spock and a few other things) that Star Fleet was the good guys.
Ok, two things I've read ....
a) Its was never supposed to the U.S.S. Enterprise .... the original scripts provided Desilu Studios for the pilot and the first two episodes, had it as the U.S.S. Yorktown.
But the real U.S.S. Enterprise (CVN-65) had been commisioned just a couple of years before, and it was the most modern, state of the art, ship we had at the time ... and they decided to go with Enterprise.
B) Roddenberry also wanted to use UFS (United Federation Ship) instead of USS ... but at the request of the studio, he changed it.
You have to remember, this was the early 60s (when he was pitching all this) ... which was the height of the cold war, and we were in a race to the moon with the Russians.
The Studio wanted to make it clear (given Spock and a few other things) that Star Fleet was the good guys.
Mm-hm. They'd already decided to use 'USS' for the American connection. Calling it 'United Space Ship' was a later expansion.
Sure, the phrase might have been used from the pilot onwards, but 'later' in this case just means after the decision to call the ship 'USS Enterprise' had been made. They decided on the name first, and figured out what it meant, in-universe, later.
As an aside, the studio didn't like Spock as a character. They thought an alien officer was too much, and told Roddenberry to take him out. He refused. He did agree to drop the female first officer, though.
No1UKnow
09-05-2009, 04:46 PM
Some more information found on Wikipedia. Who knows how accurate the info is. You can read about anything in many places on the net. Keep in mind that just because someone put it on a web page or in a book, still doesn't make the information fact.
According to The Star Trek Encyclopedia, the registry number "NCC-1701"
"...was devised by Matt Jefferies, art director of the first Star Trek series. Jefferies, who is a pilot, based NCC on 20th century aircraft registration codes. In such 20th century usage, an "N" first letter refers to an aircraft registered in the USA. A "C" for a second letter refers to a civil aircraft. Jefferies added a second "C", just because he thought it looked better."[1]
The Franz Joseph Blueprints and a handful of Star Trek novels state that NCC is an initialism for "Naval Construction Contract."
In Gene Roddenberry's original Star Trek pitch, the starship is described as a "United Space Ship," and in two episodes of TOS, Kirk refers to the "United Space Ship Enterprise."
Being that Matt Jefferies used aircraft registration codes when numbering the enterprise NCC-1701, he is clearly calling it a USA civilian ship with an extra C thrown in for cosmetics. With this in mind it would be easy to assume that the USS designation is also a USA designation, which was United States Ship.
Also bear in mind that when Roddenberry wrote Star Trek, the significance of the meaning of NCC or USS may not have occured to him. At a much later date, when people started asking what it stands for, he may have had to actually consider how his answer would impact the readers, and whether or not it would insult some of them.
Cataclysmic.Alluvium
09-05-2009, 04:51 PM
Quite funny when you think about it, reg numbers from planes and name prefixes from boats?
THORN74
09-05-2009, 05:08 PM
It stands for United Space Ship or United Star Ship
Also the Enterprise was originally going to be named Yorktown.
only in st4 and it was the Enterprise 1701-A that was going to be the yorktown.
WinterPark1701
09-05-2009, 06:58 PM
only in st4 and it was the Enterprise 1701-A that was going to be the yorktown.
The Original plan was after the drove the Enterprise into a planet to transfer the crew to the Excelsior, not the Enterprise-A. This was however over ruled by Gean and later some of the other folks involved with Trek decided to go with "Ent-A" for sentimental reasons. IDK, I think that truthfully I'd have liked to of seen the Ent-A made an either Excelsior Class or just renamed the Excelsior to "Enterprise-A". It just seems odd that they'd put them back in to a Connie which by that point the class as a whole was reaching the end of their useful life. I mean it was just a few years later when the Ent-A was retired due to obsolescence.
THORN74
09-05-2009, 07:49 PM
well they eventually put the enterprise name on a excelsior with the B, but who's counting
ETSstarfleetromulan
09-05-2009, 08:25 PM
Maybe the could change the names of the ship to UFS, just for this game but thinking of USS as United Star Ship makes me feel at ease.
Napelleanir
09-05-2009, 08:25 PM
This question has been well answered by those who have correctly stated, "United Space Ship" Enterprise. It was another era, and today we just overlook the naivety of the day. But, I'm proud of the fact Star Trek is a creation concieved and born in the the USA. Remember James Kirk is from Iowa. To boldly go has often been a part of our nation's character. It is not 'bad' or 'wrong' that USS was used. Roddenberry simply decided at one point that the original series would not venture back to the future Earth or deeply explain the politics of that future time. That was a part of the evolution and designation "USS" was caught in the middle. Recognizing the incongruence made "United Space Ship" the best explanation at the time. ONE ADDENDUM: The concept of the UFP or United Federation of Planets was modeled on the UN or United Nations. Stating the words "United Space Ship" was the equivalent of saying "Ship of United Space". United space was the higher goal of the UFP, just as a united world, for better or worse, is the goal of the UN. For that reason, I always have taken issue with saying "United Star Ship". It somehow loses the meaning. Now there's something to have fun with. . . :)
Drexxus3d
09-05-2009, 09:37 PM
Federation ships use USS, that is the way it is, always has been, and always will be.
Why would anyone want to change it? They need to get over it.
fractaleye
09-05-2009, 09:41 PM
ALL GLORY TO THE.....
nah. We don't need to start that again lol
Sunborn
09-05-2009, 10:00 PM
I shall more then likely be naming my ship the HMS Fearless. If the game tacks USS in front of the ship names we choose then I suppose my ship will be the USS HMS Fearless, haha, good fun.
decoy26517
09-05-2009, 10:16 PM
Federation ships use USS, that is the way it is, always has been, and always will be.
Why would anyone want to change it? They need to get over it.
This. it's like changing Klingon ship prefixes from IKS to SSD.... There's just no reason to change it.
DarckKnight
09-06-2009, 12:16 AM
one thing i never understood is why star trek use the abbreviation USS (United Space Ship?) for starfleet's ships. why not change to FSS (Federation StarShip) or SFS (StarFleet Ship)?
or SS (Starfleet Ship), but is already used in star trek by the civilian ship but i dont know what it mean, anyway we can change even this!
It's because it is the United Star Systems. Later it became the united fed. of planets. Starfleet is just the militry branch but they represent all of the united planets. so the U.S.S stuck.
At least i think that was it. :cool:
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09-06-2009, 01:45 AM
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......Huh?
zane5546
09-06-2009, 04:15 AM
one thing i never understood is why star trek use the abbreviation USS (United Space Ship?) for starfleet's ships. why not change to FSS (Federation StarShip) or SFS (StarFleet Ship)?
or SS (Starfleet Ship), but is already used in star trek by the civilian ship but i dont know what it mean, anyway we can change even this!
TOS described the acronym as both "United Space Ship" and "United Star Ship"
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/U.S.S.
Better yet is the controversy over the use of IKV or IKS for Klingon vessels (although it likely can be explained by translation issues.)
Cataclysmic.Alluvium
09-06-2009, 04:35 AM
In the end, I don't think it matters. USS has a nice ring to it, after all, and it's true to the series. Every series. :)
128hoodmario
09-06-2009, 04:38 AM
It stands for United Space Ship end of...
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09-06-2009, 05:38 AM
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Silly...there weren't any Neanderthals in America! Nobody got here until they were all gone about 30,000 BC.
I have found it refreshing that this group of gamers seems pretty devoid of that brand of insecurity.
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09-06-2009, 06:35 AM
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I shall more then likely be naming my ship the HMS Fearless. If the game tacks USS in front of the ship names we choose then I suppose my ship will be the USS HMS Fearless, haha, good fun.
I'd never slap a H.M.S prefix on any ship even ours, none of our monarchs deserve such respect since none of them have actually done anything or took part or even lead ours forces into to battle for over 300 years. The monarchy in the U.K are a bunch of cowards who sit behind the politicians filling their wallets it's a load of pompus rubbish. Remember Guy Fawkes the only true hero of our country.
Zepath
09-06-2009, 08:21 AM
Oh stop with the Monarch basing ... LOL!
In General everyone loves the monarchy even the Americans.
Everyone knows they not much more than the UK's version of the "First Family" ... we in the U.S. have the same thing ... they are called Kennedy.
Only difference between yours and ours is ... yours can dissolve the government, ours wish they could dissolve the government.
Yours does charity work for people in need, ours keeps lot of lawyers employed.
:D
Oh stop with the Monarch basing ... LOL!
In General everyone loves the monarchy even the Americans.
Everyone knows they not much more than the UK's version of the "First Family" ... we in the U.S. have the same thing ... they are called Kennedy.
Only difference between yours and ours is ... yours can dissolve the government, ours wish they could dissolve the government. :D
Haha i can't help it, i could bash them all day long. The current monarch isn't even British their German. Plus our present pretender to the throne is sitting on fortune, all she has to do to earn here keep is do one lousy speech every christmas which no one watches:D
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09-06-2009, 08:33 AM
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The exception that proves the rule...I hope.
Zepath
09-06-2009, 08:46 AM
The exception that proves the rule...I hope.
I love my country (the U.S.) ... but its hardly number 1 anymore.
It might carry a big stick (now) so that it can play Cop to North Korea, Iran, China, Russia ... but as we bankrupt ourselves, even that is short term.
I pray every day that I'm long dead before the United States dissolves (which is inevitable), and these other yahoo nations have free reign to do what they want.
Drexxus3d
09-06-2009, 08:50 AM
Hopefully federation ships WILL have a USS stuck on the front simply because that is how the ships are titled. The very idea anyone would want to put HMS on the front is either a troll or is just poorly adjusted. That isn't Star Trek. At all. In any way, shape, or form.
Trying to get starfleet to assign you a ship with HMS tacked on instead of USS would be like the united states navy doing the same, it just ain't gonna happen in any fantasy universe you may want to live in. It's just silly.
AraYm
09-06-2009, 08:51 AM
I really do dig political discussions, but we're (or you're for that matter) starting to direct this Thread directly into the vast unknown "Off-topic-Regions"...
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09-06-2009, 08:51 AM
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Roy_Vash
09-06-2009, 08:54 AM
I think they were thinking about using the HMS in addition to the standard Federation prefix.
As in: USS HMS Bounty. This would reference a more specific image body when people saw the name.
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09-06-2009, 08:55 AM
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The irony is in your sig.
holiday1021
09-06-2009, 08:58 AM
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You missed the whole point. This was supposed to be a professional topic with serious discussions and ramifications but the poster was saying that sooner or later someone would come in and start spouting the love of their country regardless of what was being mentioned. Its not about being USA or being #1, it's about the principal.
Drexxus3d
09-06-2009, 08:59 AM
I think they were thinking about using the HMS in addition to the standard Federation prefix.
As in: USS HMS Bounty. This would reference a more specific image body when people saw the name.
The guy said he wanted his ship to be HMS Whatever, he just said if the game automatically tacked on USS on front of every fed ship (which it should) then his should would have to be called USS HMS Whatever simply because he would refuse to give up the prefix for silly personal reasons.
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ad.manderson
09-06-2009, 09:11 AM
<puts a deadly laser device into this thread that will fire as soon as any political debate will start again>
Thank you for not turning this thread into a political debate anymore.
Dio
Drexxus3d
09-06-2009, 09:17 AM
Since this whole thread is about politics, and about certain people not wanting "USS" as their ship prefix because it relates to the USA despite being startrek canon, i'd recommand just closing the thread outright, because politics is the entire core of the debate.
Zepath
09-06-2009, 10:13 AM
Yeah, I saw this thread as being the ins and outs of having USS in the STO game itself ... which I interpret to mean the thread is appropriate for the forums category, and from the beginning it had to be expected there would be political discussions ...
But if people can't keep it civil, the thread should probably be closed.
Vlherg
09-06-2009, 11:43 AM
USS is what Starfleet ships use. UFPSS Enterprise etc is a bit of a mouthful.
If a ship were HMS then it wouldn't be Starfleet or a ship of the Federation as neither has a monarch.
Sunborn
09-06-2009, 11:59 AM
The guy said he wanted his ship to be HMS Whatever, he just said if the game automatically tacked on USS on front of every fed ship (which it should) then his should would have to be called USS HMS Whatever simply because he would refuse to give up the prefix for silly personal reasons.
HMS Fearless because it's a nice name and I have a lot of respect for the fictional character Honor Harrington. Silly reasons yes.
I also like the humor of USS HMS, if they tag USS on the front of the ship.
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Pipsqueek78
09-06-2009, 12:52 PM
I must also point out as a (possible, though I don't really know) reason why the Enterprise was named as such. Not only was the first (and fastest, still to this day I believe) nuclear powered ship Enterprise (CV-65) commissioned a few years before TOS, but the most well known, and decorated ship in WWII was also named Enterprise (CV-6).
I ran across some cool trivia recently as well. The prototype space shuttle (orbiter) was originally going to be called the "Constitution" as a celebration of America's bi-centennial anniversary. However, ST fans took part in a massive write-in campaign and the shuttle was renamed "Enterprise". Ironically, the original ST Enterprise was what class ship? ;)
Also someone mentioned one day having a spacecraft called Enterprise. Virgin Galactic's (cell phone company turned sub-orbital travel company) first "spaceplane" is going to be named the VSS Enterprise.
Awarkle
09-06-2009, 12:56 PM
well warp plasma is a form of super heated steam so surley it would be
Uber Steam Ship :D
Also someone mentioned one day having a spacecraft called Enterprise. Virgin Galactic's (cell phone company turned sub-orbital travel company) first "spaceplane" is going to be named the VSS Enterprise.
Excellent, first of many hopefully.
Jarek301
09-06-2009, 02:39 PM
There's an awful lot of excessive deep thought going into this discussion. Gene Roddenberry got his inspiration for Starfleet from the United States Navy and his prior experience in the military. This is the reason for the retained "USS" prefix and little nuances to military service such as the botswain's whistle that is sounded when the flag/commanding officers board a vessel.
No1UKnow
09-06-2009, 03:32 PM
I must also point out as a (possible, though I don't really know) reason why the Enterprise was named as such. Not only was the first (and fastest, still to this day I believe) nuclear powered ship Enterprise (CV-65) commissioned a few years before TOS, but the most well known, and decorated ship in WWII was also named Enterprise (CV-6).
I ran across some cool trivia recently as well. The prototype space shuttle (orbiter) was originally going to be called the "Constitution" as a celebration of America's bi-centennial anniversary. However, ST fans took part in a massive write-in campaign and the shuttle was renamed "Enterprise". Ironically, the original ST Enterprise was what class ship? ;)
Also someone mentioned one day having a spacecraft called Enterprise. Virgin Galactic's (cell phone company turned sub-orbital travel company) first "spaceplane" is going to be named the VSS Enterprise.
I thought all nuclear powered carriers had an N in the prefix signifying a nuclear vessel. Instead of CV-65, shouldn't it be CVN-65 if it is nuke powered?
Pipsqueek78
09-06-2009, 03:51 PM
I thought all nuclear powered carriers had an N in the prefix signifying a nuclear vessel. Instead of CV-65, shouldn't it be CVN-65 if it is nuke powered?
Yes you're correct. That was a typo, sorry.
Also just read on wiki that the Enterprise will be decommissioned between 2012 and 2015. As awesome as the last two have been, I can only imagine the next one, lol.