Your attention please

[sbrodie]

I'm noticing an awful lot of "heated" conversations on the boards today.

Let me make something perfectly clear to all of you. Flaming and trolling is not welcome on these forums, If I see it, it will be moderated and properly dealt with. The name calling, rude behavior, insults and other less than civil activities need to stop immediately. If you have an issue with something someone else has posted, report it. That is the only response you need to take. Calling other people trolls regardless of the truth behind it is not allowed by anyone on these forums except for me.

You are entitled to express your opinions on Star Trek Online in a calm, rational, polite manner on these forums. If the activity I have seen on these forums today does not stop, I will take the appropriate actions, and people will start having their accounts suspended temporarily, or be banned.

I would rather not have to do this, as I'm really rather fond of you all. However, please consider this as notice that I'm on a moderation warpath right now.

Shape it up, or face the consequences. The choice is yours.

Stormshade

[Avantos]

Amen to that...

[njdss4]

Well, everyone now has fair warning that StormShade has equipped The Banhammer™! Regular attacks cause 3 day suspension, and crits cause Permanent Bannage!

Overall, this forum is WAY better than most, but I've noticed it getting a bit more hostile lately, too. I'm pretty sure it's a temporary thing, though.

[thefreshjedi]

...
Shape it up, or face the consequences. The choice is yours.

Stormshade
...


Aye aye my Captain...

"The beatings will continue until the moral improves"

-avery

[Psaldorn]

It'll be all the Klingons - coming here, stealing our posts, interfering with our womenfolk.

[blujester]

I will comply with your orders your Piraty Puupy in a teacupness. Make it so.


Bj

[Thibor]

/cheers on the mods

[Commander_Nate]

I can honestly say I have no idea what this is referring to.

I hope it's not all the debates going on about instancing...

[ibby1kanobi]

I'm noticing an awful lot of "heated" conversations on the boards today.

Let me make something perfectly clear to all of you. Flaming and trolling is not welcome on these forums, If I see it, it will be moderated and properly dealt with. The name calling, rude behavior, insults and other less than civil activities need to stop immediately. If you have an issue with something someone else has posted, report it. That is the only response you need to take. Calling other people trolls regardless of the truth behind it is not allowed by anyone on these forums except for me.

You are entitled to express your opinions on Star Trek Online in a calm, rational, polite manner on these forums. If the activity I have seen on these forums today does not stop, I will take the appropriate actions, and people will start having their accounts suspended temporarily, or be banned.

I would rather not have to do this, as I'm really rather fond of you all. However, please consider this as notice that I'm on a moderation warpath right now.

Shape it up, or face the consequences. The choice is yours.

Stormshade


Oh snap....

[CaptainFreeFall]

Me thinks it was the whole ship interiors debate, it kinda turned into a whole Anti-RP thing.

[Phantomraptor]

*Pulls out a flame thrower* Alright who's flaming?!? Let's see how they like a real fire!!!!

*Starts singing "Can we be friends"*

[Chastian]

Theres a new sherriff in town!

[Nasedo]

I'm noticing an awful lot of "heated" conversations on the boards today.

Let me make something perfectly clear to all of you. Flaming and trolling is not welcome on these forums, If I see it, it will be moderated and properly dealt with. The name calling, rude behavior, insults and other less than civil activities need to stop immediately. If you have an issue with something someone else has posted, report it. That is the only response you need to take. Calling other people trolls regardless of the truth behind it is not allowed by anyone on these forums except for me.

You are entitled to express your opinions on Star Trek Online in a calm, rational, polite manner on these forums. If the activity I have seen on these forums today does not stop, I will take the appropriate actions, and people will start having their accounts suspended temporarily, or be banned.

I would rather not have to do this, as I'm really rather fond of you all. However, please consider this as notice that I'm on a moderation warpath right now.

Shape it up, or face the consequences. The choice is yours.

Stormshade

Thank You Stormshade!! these's forums needed it! im on your side with this 150%

most of us are Starfleet Officers! lets start acting let it!!

and the Klingons its dishonorable to Troll and Flame! not only you Dishonor your self but you Dishonor your house

[Manta2015]

Agreed that this forum is greater than most ~ I've seen far less trolling here than I'm used to, but if it's deemed a problem (and it's dealt with) -- I guess I can't complain.


-Manta-

[CaptainFreeFall]

Ahhh crap here comes the Brass to clear this place up...damn red shirts...

'TENTION ON DECK!

[Lictalon]

....StormShade has equipped The Banhammer™!...

So your saying we should fill in the big pit we dug to let people battle it out in? No Battle Royal? :D

On a serious note, "disheartening" doesn't even really cut it for describing that "My thread has derailed" feeling you get when someone brings personal grief with another forum member into your topic.

Thanks for stepping in and handling the situation. There were entire pages of threads edited out this morning, saving us all the headache of wading through them :)


Storm brought the Thunda!
And we are much oblidged

[piponolo]

Thank you stormshade!

[Jimmiiee]

Calling other people trolls regardless of the truth behind it is not allowed by anyone on these forums except for me.


Love it :D:D

[Falin]

what no sticky on this? :p

[SelorKiith]

Aye aye! It should be an easy task to comply...

[KirksOtherSon]

Thank you, StormShade, good sir!


KOS

[dru_mcd]

In the words of Bill Cosby ...
"The beatings shall now commence!"

[Loekii]

Thanks Stormshade.

The crew was seeming to become a little unruly. :D

[blujester]

I can honestly say I have no idea what this is referring to.

I hope it's not all the debates going on about instancing...

Nah.. Nate you and me both want a good game. I won't call you any names nor blame you if you call me any. It's all cool.

Bj

[Zael]

Well, everyone now has fair warning that StormShade has equipped The Banhammer™! Regular attacks cause 3 day suspension, and crits cause Permanent Bannage!

Overall, this forum is WAY better than most, but I've noticed it getting a bit more hostile lately, too. I'm pretty sure it's a temporary thing, though.

This forum may have gotten slightly more hostile but it does not change the fact that it is the friendliest forum yet. Little to no whining, little to no trolls/spammers, etc.. Thus making it my favorite forum.

[Kriss]

I'm noticing an awful lot of "heated" conversations on the boards today.

Let me make something perfectly clear to all of you. Flaming and trolling is not welcome on these forums, If I see it, it will be moderated and properly dealt with. The name calling, rude behavior, insults and other less than civil activities need to stop immediately. If you have an issue with something someone else has posted, report it. That is the only response you need to take. Calling other people trolls regardless of the truth behind it is not allowed by anyone on these forums except for me.

You are entitled to express your opinions on Star Trek Online in a calm, rational, polite manner on these forums. If the activity I have seen on these forums today does not stop, I will take the appropriate actions, and people will start having their accounts suspended temporarily, or be banned.

I would rather not have to do this, as I'm really rather fond of you all. However, please consider this as notice that I'm on a moderation warpath right now.

Shape it up, or face the consequences. The choice is yours.

Stormshade

I applaud your attempt to gain control Stormshade but I have to say, welcome to online gaming. If you really think this is bad right now you haven't seen anything yet. Wait until there is an official release date and word of your game reaches the masses.

I'm not trying to be condescending to you but am merely stating how it is going to be. I've been through a LOT of releases and forums. And as the game releases and progresses and things change in game...man, it just keeps getting harder and uglier.

I wish you luck o7

[thefreshjedi]

I applaud your attempt to gain control Stormshade but I have to say, welcome to online gaming. If you really think this is bad right now you haven't seen anything yet. Wait until there is an official release date and word of your game reaches the masses.

I'm not trying to be condescending to you but am merely stating how it is going to be. I've been through a LOT of releases and forums. And as the game releases and progresses and things change in game...man, it just keeps getting harder and uglier.

I wish you luck o7

Shall I hold him while you beat him sir?

-avery

[Loekii]

I can honestly say I have no idea what this is referring to.

I hope it's not all the debates going on about instancing...

It more some of the posts in the 'locked' threads. If you look at the last 2 pages, you see what Stormshade is referring towards. They generally do not 'lock' thread often, so when you start seeing locked threads, there are some posters misbehaving.

[Elfender]

I'm glad, i mean, this is one of the nicer forums, but some people get downright mean sometimes... ><

[rporter]

Did anyone else get all tingly when they read Stormshade's post?

[dru_mcd]

Yes, we haven't been at our best for a while.
But I'm cross-posting this message from "TOR 20 min" thread because I think it's pertinent.

I've been over to there forums quite a bit. I plan on trying it out. I did notice that whenever I mentioned that I also love Star Trek while over there, I get flamed, called a baby, and many other unpleasent names. While over here when I mention that I also love Star Wars, people just say Ok, cool and go on there daily business. Notice a pattern?

Let's not forget this.

[CherryTerri]

One of the reasons I am posting less and less on these boards. Same stuff brought up with same reactions to them. Not worth the trouble.

Though I admit, I have blown up on a poster (mainly because they insulted me as a person) so I will try to be careful next time. Though I do feel bad sending in reports every day if you are inundated with work.

[Ifandbut]

Calling other people trolls regardless of the truth behind it is not allowed by anyone on these forums except for me.


Ya...well...your a troll.

oh god I hope I dont get banned.

I'm gona go find a jefferies tube to crawl into.



Yes, we should keep it civil. This game is not even in any form of beta yet. It is no time for trolling...that comes 2 weeks before launch.

[Irx]

Reading forums with no drama is boring... :rolleyes:

[Tokoth]

Sticky this before it get's buried? Ya gotta know the second this thread falls off page one, someones going to complain about not 'getting the message' when the aforementioned disciplinary activities are enacted relating to their posts. If we keep it on page one, then there would be no excuse... as it's constantly in view.

[DanSeale]

I personally appreciate the way this forum is ran. Dissagreement is inevitable from time to time. The manner inwhich we discuss and carry out the resolution to that dissagreement is what determins the real charactor of a community.

IMHO .. there are entirely too many communities that seem to project the image that only a brutal, often unforgiving approach is the only way to get things done. That seems to be a reflection of the old addage "the squeeky wheel gets the greese". From there patrons will often simply blast the thunder out of anyone who gets in the way : if for no other reason to either prove, or make a point and to do so in such a fashion that few would dare to challange them for fear of retribution.

Some of us chose another path.

Models (for example) happens to be something I do as a hobby. Some of my criticism is often based on experience, back ground of a study done on 4 other games, two communities that do 3-d modeling based on Trek ... and other resources. By that same token I also know that much of it is personal design and taste.

Hopefully even when we offer critques and suggestions for STO (particularly in modeling for my self) ... it is not ignorerd simply because I don't peel the paint off the walls when we are discussing that and other subjects.

Bottom line: Keep up the good work watching over the community. Each of us should appoint ourself as a committee of one to help insure that Cryptic keeps a good healthy environment where we can continue to share ideas EVEN AFTER the game is released. IMHO that will be a real challange. That's why it's so important to set the proper tone now .... so that later it will make it much easier to KEEP it that way.

[Zepath]

What OlBuzzard said!

I loved these forums until the last week or so. I like intelligent exchanges and debates (I believe we learn and grow if we listen to opposing opinions), I've come to respect some contributors, and appreciate (while maybe with a chuckle) others.

But I pretty much have been staying away from the forums for the last week or so because its just turned ugly.

I'm all for hot topics, even heated debates ... about the issue being discussed, not the person posting their opinion.

Thank you StormShade.

[LordDrakonis]

What OlBuzzard said!

I loved these forums until the last week or so. I like intelligent exchanges and debates (I believe we learn and grow if we listen to opposing opinions), I've come to respect some contributors, and appreciate (while maybe with a chuckle) others.

But I pretty much have been staying away from the forums for the last week or so because its just turned ugly.

I'm all for hot topics, even heated debates ... about the issue being discussed, not the person posting their opinion.

Thank you StormShade.

oh hardly or not? mhh

to which topic it attends to?

[Zepath]

oh hardly or not? mhh

to which topic it attends to?

Eh?


And by the way Dev's ... this needs to be sitckied.

[Mozcol]

Yes, we haven't been at our best for a while.
But I'm cross-posting this message from "TOR 20 min" thread because I think it's pertinent.

Originally Posted by Ankesdorel
I've been over to there forums quite a bit. I plan on trying it out. I did notice that whenever I mentioned that I also love Star Trek while over there, I get flamed, called a baby, and many other unpleasent names. While over here when I mention that I also love Star Wars, people just say Ok, cool and go on there daily business. Notice a pattern?

Let's not forget this.

TOR is a tougher forum and people are allowed in many to work things out for themselves, and often do. This forum while moderated is moderated to heavily. While ofcouse there are some things that the Mods need to jump on and take are of, these boards are treated like children being hand-held. Granted, many individuals on this forum must be for some reason. Ah well, different type of community, different rule set.

[ZeframCochrane]

I personally appreciate the way this forum is ran. Dissagreement is inevitable from time to time. The manner inwhich we discuss and carry out the resolution to that dissagreement is what determins the real charactor of a community.

IMHO .. there are entirely too many communities that seem to project the image that only a brutal, often unforgiving approach is the only way to get things done. That seems to be a reflection of the old addage "the squeeky wheel gets the greese". From there patrons will often simply blast the thunder out of anyone who gets in the way : if for no other reason to either prove, or make a point and to do so in such a fashion that few would dare to challange them for fear of retribution.

Some of us chose another path.

Models (for example) happens to be something I do as a hobby. Some of my criticism is often based on experience, back ground of a study done on 4 other games, two communities that do 3-d modeling based on Trek ... and other resources. By that same token I also know that much of it is personal design and taste.

Hopefully even when we offer critques and suggestions for STO (particularly in modeling for my self) ... it is not ignorerd simply because I don't peel the paint off the walls when we are discussing that and other subjects.

Bottom line: Keep up the good work watching over the community. Each of us should appoint ourself as a committee of one to help insure that Cryptic keeps a good healthy environment where we can continue to share ideas EVEN AFTER the game is released. IMHO that will be a real challange. That's why it's so important to set the proper tone now .... so that later it will make it much easier to KEEP it that way.

I nominate OlBuzzard as "Most Level Headed on STO Forums"

[ZeframCochrane]

TOR is a tougher forum and people are allowed in many to work things out for themselves, and often do. This forum while moderated is moderated to heavily. While ofcouse there are some things that the Mods need to jump on and take are of, these boards are treated like children being hand-held. Granted, many individuals on this forum must be for some reason. Ah well, different type of community, different rule set.

I like a little heavier moderation.

The interwebs is full of people who say things on forums they wouldn't say in person because they can get away with it. Civility is the first quality that is left behind. Mods add an element of oversight, an encouragement to appropriate behavior if you will.

[Zepath]

I like a little heavier moderation.

The interwebs is full of people who say things on forums they wouldn't say in person because they can get away with it. Civility is the first quality that is left behind. Mods add an element of oversight, an encouragement to appropriate behavior if you will.

Yep, a researched and stated fact at more universities than one can count. Anonymity seems to bring out the 'ass' in a lot of people.

[Zepath]

TOR is a tougher forum and people are allowed in many to work things out for themselves, and often do. This forum while moderated is moderated to heavily. While ofcouse there are some things that the Mods need to jump on and take are of, these boards are treated like children being hand-held. Granted, many individuals on this forum must be for some reason. Ah well, different type of community, different rule set.

I don't think these forums are moderated too heavily. I've seen the moderators pull the 'close' trigger a little too fast, but I can live with that for the sake of civility.

This is their forum, they pay for its hosting, they pay to have it moderated, they are responsible for what is said here, and what is said here effect their product.

Free Speech, while tolerated here, is not a right here.

[Loekii]

TOR is a tougher forum and people are allowed in many to work things out for themselves, and often do. This forum while moderated is moderated to heavily. While ofcouse there are some things that the Mods need to jump on and take are of, these boards are treated like children being hand-held. Granted, many individuals on this forum must be for some reason. Ah well, different type of community, different rule set.

When it comes to 'official' forums, I am more for a keep the peace approach and hold it to a slightly higher standard (keeping a more official standard when it come to mutual respect). Imo, the mods need to be heavy handed, to keep the bullies at bay, and foster an atmosphere where people feel comfortable discussing their opinions without having to deal with someone being overly disrespectful and rude.

The STO forums should be a place where someone that usually is a lurker on more aggressive forums, can feel motivated and comfortable posting their opinions and sharing in the conversations.

[Hagon]

TOR is a tougher forum and people are allowed in many to work things out for themselves, and often do. This forum while moderated is moderated to heavily. While ofcouse there are some things that the Mods need to jump on and take are of, these boards are treated like children being hand-held. Granted, many individuals on this forum must be for some reason. Ah well, different type of community, different rule set.Aye, it's definitely moderated too heavily, and a lot of people get away with being jerks and trouble makers simply because they put things in flowery language and beat around the bush (heck some of the most caustic behaviour I've ever seen gets a pass here because of that kind of thing), but in the end it's Cryptic's forum. They can moderate it any way they see fit and it's up to us whether we want to post or not.

[Loekii]

I nominate OlBuzzard as "Most Level Headed on STO Forums"

I second that nomination. :D

The nice thing, is that rather than being a Diamond in the rough, I see OlBuz as being more the one that shines a little britter than others (meaning overall the community is pretty good).

[Roy_Vash]

Ah well, different type of community, different rule set.

I agree with this part of your post.

[bradley1701]

Thank you.

[Jamisicus6]

I would rather not have to do this, as I'm really rather fond of you all.

Yes we all love you too StormShade.

However, please consider this as notice that I'm on a moderation warpath right now.

OH DEAR GOD NO!!!




P.S. No sarcasm was inputed to that post I actually meant it all... Especially the part about the warpath... Scary stuff... You should write horror stories or something :D. Three words that terrify all STO members. .. StormShade... Is... COMING!!!!

[DanSeale]

I second that nomination. :D

The nice thing, is that rather than being a Diamond in the rough, I see OlBuz as being more the one that shines a little britter than others (meaning overall the community is pretty good).

(face blushes)

dude.. if you folks only knew how much I envied the understanding so many of you have on the tech side of some of this stuff .. it's not even funny.

I just wish I were good enough at it to really be a difference in the game .. and here in the forum. If we have in some small way made a contribution to that end ... then our presence here has served a purpose. IMHO our purpose in life is to help and to serve .. when ever possible.

"life is what you make it .. share it with a friend" (from my father since I was a child).

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I'm noticing an awful lot of "heated" conversations on the boards today.

Let me make something perfectly clear to all of you. Flaming and trolling is not welcome on these forums, If I see it, it will be moderated and properly dealt with. The name calling, rude behavior, insults and other less than civil activities need to stop immediately. If you have an issue with something someone else has posted, report it. That is the only response you need to take. Calling other people trolls regardless of the truth behind it is not allowed by anyone on these forums except for me.

You are entitled to express your opinions on Star Trek Online in a calm, rational, polite manner on these forums. If the activity I have seen on these forums today does not stop, I will take the appropriate actions, and people will start having their accounts suspended temporarily, or be banned.

I would rather not have to do this, as I'm really rather fond of you all. However, please consider this as notice that I'm on a moderation warpath right now.

Shape it up, or face the consequences. The choice is yours.

Stormshade

It is true, There are a couple of people, who are stressed or overly excited and do need to remember the federation way of doing things.

Everyone should also be made to watch this video. It is short and verry funny but also its a home truth, about not being to picky and not being to demanding.

Please watch and enjoy and take the message its meant to show.
Thanks

p.s. this video was not created by me but the cool Dudes at Deep impact Fleet and also,
it does contain billy connoly scots humour, there is language but its meant to show you in a funny way what some people are like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOSrOTphD9M

After watching this video, please reflect and be a better forumer ;) were all in this game together.
End of hail

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

It is true, There are a couple of people, who are stressed or overly excited and do need to remember the federation way of doing things.

Everyone should also be made to watch this video. It is short and verry funny but also its a home truth, about not being to picky and not being to demanding.

Please watch and enjoy and take the message its meant to show.
Thanks

p.s. this video was not created by me but the cool Dudes at Deep impact Fleet and also,
it does contain billy connoly scots humour, there is language but its meant to show you in a funny way what some people are like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOSrOTphD9M

After watching this video, please reflect and be a better forumer ;) were all in this game together.
End of hail

I hope everyone has a laugh at this video and also has a think of what it says behind the words, lol. Its very funny but its also true to many. Try and be a better forumer :)

[trebort5050]

I have no idea what he's talking about! :eek:

Can I have a merit badge Mr StormShade please? I'm a good boy I am... :rolleyes:

[Hagon]

Can I have a merit badge Mr StormShade please? I'm a good boy I am... :rolleyes:heh, line up fer yer pat on the head mate. :p

[trebort5050]

heh, line up fer yer pat on the head mate. :p

I have to go to the front...

I'm King of Teacup Land :eek:

[KO_Gilligan]

Did anyone else get all tingly when they read Stormshade's post?

I only get that way for Kestrel

[Galv]

Well it would of been nice if a mod had stepped in on the lastest Xbox 360 thread, it pretty much just turned into PC elitist rants bad mouthing anyone who plays Xbox Live. But i guess thats ok.

[Swea]

It is true, There are a couple of people, who are stressed or overly excited and do need to remember the federation way of doing things.

Everyone should also be made to watch this video. It is short and verry funny but also its a home truth, about not being to picky and not being to demanding.

Please watch and enjoy and take the message its meant to show.
Thanks

p.s. this video was not created by me but the cool Dudes at Deep impact Fleet and also,
it does contain billy connoly scots humour, there is language but its meant to show you in a funny way what some people are like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOSrOTphD9M

After watching this video, please reflect and be a better forumer ;) were all in this game together.
End of hail

lol good stuff, darn funny. good laugh i thank you for it. Very very true though

To stormshade: *golfclap* thanks for all you do :)

[Jamisicus6]

I only get that way for Kestrel

:eek:
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Dude
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Too much information:

[trebort5050]

I only get that way for Kestrel

Dirty Goat... Dirty Goat!

Bad!

Down boy! :eek:

I found your old year book photo from High School Mr Goat! See.... (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uJ4KIoevfIU/SJJygQlD29I/AAAAAAAAABc/KnZrKDG-bgw/s320/GoatBraces.jpg)

[Loekii]

Well it would of been nice if a mod had stepped in on the lastest Xbox 360 thread, it pretty much just turned into PC elitist rants bad mouthing anyone who plays Xbox Live. But i guess thats ok.

Unfortunately, it seems that the Mods are busy with CO, so some of the stuff is falling through the cracks or sitting longer before responded to. Just report the stuff -- which I am sure you did -- and just hope they can get to it at some point.

[trebort5050]

Unfortunately, it seems that the Mods are busy with CO, so some of the stuff is falling through the cracks or sitting longer before responded to. Just report the stuff -- which I am sure you did -- and just hope they can get to it at some point.


My 1 infraction point has worn off, I'm free to call people names for their cultural heritage, race, country of birth... all I need is a target! :cool: he he he.....

Naturally I was joking... I'm a reformed character... and I'm not that nasty, I just called somebody an Idiot :eek:

[Galv]

Unfortunately, it seems that the Mods are busy with CO, so some of the stuff is falling through the cracks or sitting longer before responded to. Just report the stuff -- which I am sure you did -- and just hope they can get to it at some point.


Thanks for pointing that out i always neglect the report and jump on my high horse.

Added: Apologies Stormshade for earlier post, i should of reported instead of jumping on the above mentioned horse.