Your First Diplomatic Mission

[Peregrine_Falcon]

In the spirit of Rekhan's Kobayashi Maru threads, I offer something a little different. Your first diplomatic mission.

You've spoken with the Halkan Council at length, shown them historical tapes on humanity and the United Federation of Planets. The meeting is wrapping up and you only have a few minutes to leave before an ion storm hits, which would strand your landing party on the surface for an undetermined length of time. So you obviously have to get back to the ship before that happens. The Halkan leader says to you:

Tharn: "We believe what you say, Captain, but our position is not altered. The Halkan Council cannot permit your Federation to mine dilithium crystals on our planet. We accept that your Federation is benevolent, at present, but the future is always in question. Our dilithium crystals represent awesome power. Wrongful use of that power, even to the extent of the taking of one life would violate our history of total peace. To prevent that we would die Captain, as a race if necessary."

You now have just enough time to make a short speech to him, in an effort to change his mind. What do you say to him, Captain?

[Cpt.Pellew]

I would tell him that the Federation is law abindeing,and a faction that respects the rights of other speices.

That the Federation has come befor your people in the hopes for Negotioations that will be benifishal to him and his people.

And that is no is his final answer then the Federation will respect that answer and will apeal to you nolonger,but with that said.

Show him examples of other peaceful beings being raped of there natural resources and not haveing a say in what happens to there people once his people have been incarcarated and mass genocide is being commited by the invaders.

Tell him that the if the Federation was given permission to operate mining facilitys on his planet,then his planet and it's people will be a Federation protectorate,they would not even need to join the Federation.

After that tell him i must be on myway back to my ship,and that i will be in orbit for 3 days giveing you plenty of time to think of your next move,if any.


One to beam up.

[Paulo999]

In the spirit of Rekhan's Kobayashi Maru threads, I offer something a little different. Your first diplomatic mission.

You've spoken with the Halkan Council at length, shown them historical tapes on humanity and the United Federation of Planets. The meeting is wrapping up and you only have a few minutes to leave before an ion storm hits, which would strand your landing party on the surface for an undetermined length of time. So you obviously have to get back to the ship before that happens. The Halkan leader says to you:

Tharn: "We believe what you say, Captain, but our position is not altered. The Halkan Council cannot permit your Federation to mine dilithium crystals on our planet. We accept that your Federation is benevolent, at present, but the future is always in question. Our dilithium crystals represent awesome power. Wrongful use of that power, even to the extent of the taking of one life would violate our history of total peace. To prevent that we would die Captain, as a race if necessary."

You now have just enough time to make a short speech to him, in an effort to change his mind. What do you say to him, Captain?

then you will die

<Terran Empire the Planet :D.

[Commander_Nate]

You're breakin' my balls here Helkan, breakin' my balls. Come on work with me bro.

What if my science officer flashes you?

She was on the cover of PC Gamer not too long ago...

That would be my response. If it didn't work, I'd just go back to my ship to "weather the storm" with my science officer.

[Nytok]

My speech:

I respect and honor your conviction for peace. If it were not for the responsibility of protecting all the planets in the Federation, then our cultures would surely be of like mind. However, this galaxy is a dangerous place and not all the other galactic civilizations would agree with your ideals and those of the Federation. If you were to allow us to mine your planet, we would also have the responsibility to guard your planet from these potential threats. That does not mean you would have to become a Federation planet either, it would be just a peaceful and symbiotic relationship.

If he still says no, I'd tell the ship to beam me up and hope I don't get stuck in the Mirror Universe.

[Cpt.Pellew]

[QUOTE=Nytok;709758]My speech:

I respect and honor your conviction for peace. If it were not for the responsibility of protecting all the planets in the Federation, then our cultures would surely be of like mind. However, this galaxy is a dangerous place and not all the other galactic civilizations would agree with your ideals and those of the Federation. If you were to allow us to mine your planet, we would also have the responsibility to guard your planet from these potential threats. That does not mean you would have to become a Federation planet either, it would be just a peaceful and symbiotic relationship.

If he still says no, I'd tell the ship to beam me up and hope I don't get stuck in the Mirror Universe.[/QUOTE



I think your post was very good up untell you said "we would also have the responsibility to guard your planet"

sounds alittle like the Marine corps hymm, Every where we can take a "gun".would sound alittle more better if it was Rifle (in my opinion).

I would suggest saying we would also make your planet a Federation Protectorate.

[Nytok]

Dude,,,,,come on...thats mine :mad:

should have said Cpt.Pellew's speach :cool:

I did read yours, but I was legitimately thinking of what I would say. Please don't be mad, I really wasn't trying to copy you (or I would'a just used cut and paste, lol).

[Cpt.Pellew]

I did read yours, but I was legitimately thinking of what I would say. Please don't be mad, I really wasn't trying to copy you (or I would'a just used cut and paste, lol).

It's cool partner,i was just alittle proud of my post :)

I will Edit my post ;)

[Draconianknight]

In the spirit of Rekhan's Kobayashi Maru threads, I offer something a little different. Your first diplomatic mission.

You've spoken with the Halkan Council at length, shown them historical tapes on humanity and the United Federation of Planets. The meeting is wrapping up and you only have a few minutes to leave before an ion storm hits, which would strand your landing party on the surface for an undetermined length of time. So you obviously have to get back to the ship before that happens. The Halkan leader says to you:

Tharn: "We believe what you say, Captain, but our position is not altered. The Halkan Council cannot permit your Federation to mine dilithium crystals on our planet. We accept that your Federation is benevolent, at present, but the future is always in question. Our dilithium crystals represent awesome power. Wrongful use of that power, even to the extent of the taking of one life would violate our history of total peace. To prevent that we would die Captain, as a race if necessary."

You now have just enough time to make a short speech to him, in an effort to change his mind. What do you say to him, Captain?

Simple;
I would pull my Disrupter Pistol and blow his ass away! "Launch the Invasion!" Qapla'!

[Archangelwoghd]

I would prepare to render the surface of his planet lifeless. I never use the transporter during an ion storm.

[ExpendableCrewman]

Hmnnn if I was a Fed and that duder told me no ...,,, hmmnnn then I would prolly say "Well since I am a member of the sniveling, spinless, stupid, superficial, sorry@$$ federation, That means I am better than you, but in order to be better than you I have to follow some simple rules, rules that say:

I cant take it from you, cuz that would be violating your human rights <even tho youre not human" , and I dont beleive in doin that, I cant buy it from you with money cuz I dont beleive in <money>, and I cant trade anything worthwhile that you could use to better your society because that would breaking the prime directive, and I especially dont beleive in doing that, so that leaves, what else what else, well looks like its time for me to go so I can explore strange new worlds and do this little song and dance all over again."

LAME!!!!!!!!!

Man Im so glad we get a choice and we dont HAVE to be federation <they are sooo lame!!!>, I wouldnt even play this game if that was how it was.

[Peregrine_Falcon]

Good speeches Cpt.Pellew and Nytok!

I'm a bit disappointed in the rest of you. All the bellyaching people have done on this forum about wanting diplomatic missions. Now's their chance, but after over 130 views only two people have made serious attempts to wow us with their diplomatic abilities.

(Oh don't get mad. I'm just having a little fun. ;) )

Seriously though, let's see some of that Diplomancy in action people! :D

[Commander_Nate]

Good speeches Cpt.Pellew and Nytok!

I'm a bit disappointed in the rest of you. All the bellyaching people have done on this forum about wanting diplomatic missions. Now's their chance, but after over 130 views only two people have made serious attempts to wow us with their diplomatic abilities.

(Oh don't get mad. I'm just having a little fun. ;) )

Seriously though, let's see some of that Diplomancy in action people! :D


FINE!

I'm not doing it in speech form, but here's some points.

1) You will become a fully-entitled Federation protectorate with all the right's and privileges thereof. This would mean protection for you from the Klingons, Romulans and other nefarious powers that are causing disruptions to galactic peace right now.

2) You and your citizens will be fully allowed travel rights within Federation space, thereby allowing your society the potential for great economic, scientific, and cultural benefits.

3) If you so desire you may be placed on the fast track to Federation membership after X amount of time.

4) Basically you'll be like Puerto Rico.

Happy?

I'd still go back to my ship with my first officer though.

[Sythian]

Tharn, I respect your answer and the choice your people have made. Peaceful exploration of life is one of the driving focal points of the Federation. Dilithium aside, the Halkan and the Federation have other common intrests to exchange one another, Science, Culture, Technology, to name a few. I’m sure in time we can grow to have a better understanding of one another along with a greater trust. With great power does come great responsibility, but in the right hands it can feed the hungry, cure the sick, even save the dying. Is the evil that can be done really out weighing the amount of good.

[maltzenburgerz]

I would, as stated above, respect thier wishes if they still refuse, as this is the Federation's way of doing things, but remind them that our rivals, the Klingons, are not so diplomatic, and that if their overtures are refused, the usually would take what they want by force. I would then return to my ship.


Yeah, I would do Optimus Prime's Speech more or less from Transformer's II when he dealt with that paper-pushing government twit for the first time, but replace "Decepticon" with "Klingon" so sue me. It still fits this scenario IMHO. X-S

[blujester]

Bj: I respect your decision Chanceler and admire your candor. But let it be said that the good that could be achieved should not be overlooked. Not just for your people, but for the galaxy as a whole. Conflict is never something the Federation seeks. But it is a reality we all, all races and all people will inevitably face. It is always better to face it from strength rather than weakness. The federation offer stands, should you change your mind. And if there are any other matters your population should need our assistance for, please, do not hesitate to ask. We would very much like to remain in contact with your planet in the interim. Perhaps there is something more meaningful we can offer. Or perhaps a continued dialog will ease your mind as to our intentions. I regret the brevity of my stay here but as you are aware, I must depart immediatly. Please concider our offer in my absence and may you and yours live long and prosper.

Tharn: A moment please Captain. You have not offered my people security in exchange for the minerals?

Bj: No sir, I have not.

Tharn: You should know that the representitives of the Klingons were here before you. THEY offered us protection in exchange for our minerals. (raises eybrows in a questioning manor)

Bj: (head turned to the side) I am not surprised. Your planets position so close to contested space and your resources make you a prime target for the Empire. (turns to face Tharn) But this is of no concequence to the Federation. Our offer would stand either way.

Tharn: You would leave us helpless!! In the face of a Klingon Invasion.!!

Bj: On the contrary, should that ever happen, regardless of whatever trade agreements we may or may not have established, ..... You can count on the Federation to defend you. As I said, one has but to ask. We do not seek war. Like you, we wish it behind us for the rest of time. But until war no longer seeks us...We will defend those who are in need. It is our way.

Tharn: Interesting.... thank you Captain, Be well on your journey. I will concider your offer.

Bj: Safe Skies Chancelor... May fortune smile upon you and yours.



Bj to Goblin, one to beam up.


Bj

[Draconianknight]

I have said this before and will say it again.
There is ONLY one way to decively make piece. That is with absolute naked bruttle force.
I would point to Nagasaki and Hiroshima, point made.:cool:

[Sorbek]

But my starship says I can...so how will you stop me....

[LunaticFringer]

We understand the Council's reservations. Our own Prime Directive prevents us from interfering with cultures not prepared to wisely handle our technology. In this case I am willing to state your case to the Federation Council, my superiors, in the interest of continued negotiations between our two governments. I think we could offer stipulation issues to the mining if it would sway your stance on the issue. Would that be agreeable to your council?

[FerrariF40LM]

I would turn to him and say,

Nowlisten here a**hole Get with it. Millions of galaxies of hundreds of millions of stars, in a speck on one in a blink. That's you, lost in space.... History of total peace Huh... This place is paradise, I'm tellin' ya. This planet like a p***y waiting to get f***ed...

Beam me up scotty.

I'd beam out at the same time he is giving his answer so it apears i got it and no matter what it is ill take it as a "yes you can mine here". What is he gonna do when the feds come to mine?

[shadowsafer]

In the spirit of Rekhan's Kobayashi Maru threads, I offer something a little different. Your first diplomatic mission.

You've spoken with the Halkan Council at length, shown them historical tapes on humanity and the United Federation of Planets. The meeting is wrapping up and you only have a few minutes to leave before an ion storm hits, which would strand your landing party on the surface for an undetermined length of time. So you obviously have to get back to the ship before that happens. The Halkan leader says to you:

Tharn: "We believe what you say, Captain, but our position is not altered. The Halkan Council cannot permit your Federation to mine dilithium crystals on our planet. We accept that your Federation is benevolent, at present, but the future is always in question. Our dilithium crystals represent awesome power. Wrongful use of that power, even to the extent of the taking of one life would violate our history of total peace. To prevent that we would die Captain, as a race if necessary."

You now have just enough time to make a short speech to him, in an effort to change his mind. What do you say to him, Captain?

(My captain will be a vulcan medic.)

Dear Tharn, my people have a saying "Live long and prosper". The federations mission is to explore new worlds and make new alliances, respecting the traditions and values of other species. Our prime directive does not allow to involve ourselves in less advances species and these core values have been important since the birth of the federation.
Wherever possible we will use peaceful solutions, however history has also taught us several grave lessons. Though we may hold peace dear I'm afraid others do need. We seek to protect those that can not protect themselves from harm for we believe that if we do not stand up for the weaker races in our galaxy nobody else will.
Your Dilithium crystals represent an awesome power indeed, a power we wish to use to spread prosperity and understanding among the species so that war can be avoided.
While the federation will recgonizes and respect your peaceful ways, others may not.

I hope you will reconsider your point of view.

Live long and prosper.

[Rgoodfel]

Explaine to them for the last time that we are not representing the Federation. Tell him that he will give us the crystles or he will be the first person on his planet to die as we take it by force. Long live the Empire!

[renorin]

I'd suggest a compromise. Let his people mine the crystals and sell them to the Federation. If at any time he was to decide that the Federation was miss-using the crystals they could stop selling them. This would get the Federation the crystals, keep them from being miss-used, and as a bonus create jobs for his people.

And if that doesn't work lets just look elsewhere... Or build a covert mine under their noses using the cloaking devices from Star Trek: Insurrection.

[Banar]

In the spirit of Rekhan's Kobayashi Maru threads, I offer something a little different. Your first diplomatic mission.

You've spoken with the Halkan Council at length, shown them historical tapes on humanity and the United Federation of Planets. The meeting is wrapping up and you only have a few minutes to leave before an ion storm hits, which would strand your landing party on the surface for an undetermined length of time. So you obviously have to get back to the ship before that happens. The Halkan leader says to you:

Tharn: "We believe what you say, Captain, but our position is not altered. The Halkan Council cannot permit your Federation to mine dilithium crystals on our planet. We accept that your Federation is benevolent, at present, but the future is always in question. Our dilithium crystals represent awesome power. Wrongful use of that power, even to the extent of the taking of one life would violate our history of total peace. To prevent that we would die Captain, as a race if necessary."

You now have just enough time to make a short speech to him, in an effort to change his mind. What do you say to him, Captain?

I would nod, thanking them for their time and hospitality, respect their wishes and attempt to leave.

[scholarman]

My speech:

"I respect your position and your beliefs, but consider this:

"A blacksmith forges a knife. It is a useful tool, and that is what he intends for its use. He sells it to a sailor, who needs it to cut sails and lines, pare and prepare his food, and even while away the hours whittling.

"He gives that knife to his son, who is also a sailor. His son also uses it to do his job, prepare his food, and entertain himself peacefully. And he then gives it to his son.

"That boy intends to use it as his father and grandfather did, but there is an incident. The boy is attacked, and he defends himself. And in so doing the knife is bloodied for the first time.

"is the grandson responsible? Yes -- even if all he was doing is defending himself, he is making a choice. Is the boy's father or grandfather responsible? In the end, I would have to say no -- they did not make the grandson's choice. And if they are not responsible, then how could the blacksmith who forged the knife with the best of intentions -- intentions which held fast for two generations -- be responsible.

"You say that you believe me. You believe that our Federation believes in peace, and prosperity. But you are concerned that our descendants might misuse it -- and that if they did so, you would be culpable. I say that if you act in good faith, and trust in our good faith, you cannot bear the responsibility for what others through history might do. Otherwise, you become incapable of acting in any affair, lest some unforeseen consequence indict you.

"We are prepared to sign a treaty with you. We are prepared to abide by the terms and the spirit of that treaty -- and the Federation has a long history that shows its good faith in these matters. We ask that you place your faith in us, our intentions and our resolve. And if one day the dilithium fell into less honorable hands, I cannot believe that it would reflect upon you.

"If you do not choose to treat with us, that is your decision. But if you make that decision -- make it based upon what you know of us, not what you think our grandchildren might do. If you find us wanting, I respect that. But do not condemn us in the name of what a generation not yet born might do."

[FINALCUT]

id say in my best brando,im gonna make you an offer you cant refuse.:D