Star Trek Online Gamescom Off Screen Footage [Archive]

njdss4

08-19-2009, 12:49 PM

Amazing find! Whoever Webguest28 is needs to get a prize for finding that! It's what I've been waiting for since last summer, ANOTHER GAMEPLAY TRAILER. Hopefully Cryptic will release a downloadable version of that trailer that we can watch on our computers instead of watching it broken up over 16 big TVs.

The space combat looked INCREDIBLE! That is what I want from STO's space combat. It looked a bit faster paced than I anticipated, but it still looked like TONS OF FUN. MOAR FOOTAGE PLEASE!

The ground combat didn't look all that great, but I'll reserve judgment until Cryptic says they're happier with it. They've said multiple times that ground combat isn't anywhere close to done yet.

Again, GREAT FIND, I am so stoked. I'm gonna spend the next 20 minutes re-watching this video over and over.

The_Padre

08-19-2009, 12:50 PM

It was presented by someone in the Chat, but they did not give their name. They get the credit, I am just spreading their word.

I look at this knowing the game is still in Alpha, and that it probably had to be tweaked/sweetened (speed up, slowed here, fabricated here). There are some glitches here and there, but its based off an alpha.

However, overall, I think the presentation was good (Jumbo screen FTW), as well as showing off the graphics.

And of course, obviously the BEST part of the entire video.....

GORNS!

And head butting Gorn at that :D

Arachnidus

08-19-2009, 12:56 PM

Nothing we couldn't infer ourselves, but a bit more confirmation

Also, was that the Scimitar at 3:15?

Yes, and it used a Thalaron weapon. :eek:

knightofhyrule730

08-19-2009, 12:57 PM

Ahem.

OMG. Engage fanboi mode

Now who said this game is going to suck? EAT YOUR WORDS.

SelorKiith

08-19-2009, 12:58 PM

I can't get over the "Emissary" Style rapid phaser fire... that is SO cool! :D THANK YOU FOR THIS!

williams.blaine

08-19-2009, 12:59 PM

Did anyone catch what the species was that had the personal cloaking device in ground combat somewhere around 1:30? Looked like a cool ability to have....

Tamgros

08-19-2009, 12:59 PM

Ahem.

OMG. Engage fanboi mode

Now who said this game is going to suck? EAT YOUR WORDS.

/me covers head and prepares for massive influx of noobs :eek::eek::eek::eek:

njdss4

08-19-2009, 01:00 PM

Some things I noticed in the video that we haven't seen yet in a video:

Intrepid Class! All you Voyager lovers can go after this beauty.

Old school Romulan Warbirds! TOS/ENT look to them, and I love it!

3D space combat! You can clearly see ships shooting at vessels that are way above/below them, and pitching up and down to chase after them. This is what I wanted from the combat, and I'm seeing it here.

Battles taking place in more than just open space! There were some battles near asteroid belts and space stations. That really helps from getting bored with fighting battles in empty areas all the time.

SCIMITAR! It will be in STO! That ship annihilated another with it's Thalaron weapon, it looks like a "boss" type ship all by itself! FEAR THE ROMULANS!

The Guardian of Forever! We knew this would be in the game, but to see actual video of it was great! It looked amazing, too! Props to the designers for staying true to its look!

Ship detail looked great! All the slight changes to the ships to make them look more formidable/25th century looking are wonderful. Keep it up!

Last but not least, THANK YOU CRYPTIC FOR FINALLY (kind of) RELEASING ANOTHER GAMEPLAY TRAILER!

Loekii

08-19-2009, 01:02 PM

Did anyone catch what the species was that had the personal cloaking device in ground combat somewhere around 1:30? Looked like a cool ability to have....

At first I was disappointed at this, but then you did have such things with the Sulabon in ENT.

While Ground combat looks nice, and I like the overall pace, I am still concerned it will play like SWG, with people just running around in circles shooting at each other, rather than players seeking cover and fortified positions.

slingbladez

08-19-2009, 01:03 PM

3D space combat looked amazing. I'm curious how the ground combat will turn out

Manta2015

08-19-2009, 01:06 PM

Bwaahhaha.. they uploaded a video with me in it as well, but that's another video all together :D

-Manta-

njdss4

08-19-2009, 01:11 PM

Not sure if anyone noticed this, but at 4:22 if you freeze it there you see that the Galaxy class ship they're showing is actually NCC-1701-D. That's right, the USS Enterprise.

dru_mcd

08-19-2009, 01:14 PM

Many thanks!

Guardian of Forever ... wow, they're really going deep.

Why is Cryptic holding back??? The PR people ought to be going gangbusters with this stuff!

Isengardtom

08-19-2009, 01:14 PM

great vid :D

thanks for this

knightofhyrule730

08-19-2009, 01:17 PM

NOTE: This Gameplay Video was SPED UP. This is not the actual speed of the game, i'd expect it to be a bit slower.

robgomm

08-19-2009, 01:17 PM

NOTE: This Gameplay Video was SPED UP. This is not the actual speed of the game, i'd expect it to be a bit slower.

Arr right, yeah i thought it might be. Was a bit too fast paced for my liking otherwise.

jason24

08-19-2009, 01:18 PM

WOW !!, Great find , thanks for posting.

Space looked good,
I liked the transporter effect,
Liked the F.X for the exploding ships,
The planet enviroments looked nice,
Ship combat did look faster than i though it would be.
Not sure about the sound F.X. for the phasers ( could get annoying ? )
The ships looked pretty good as well.

And this is just Alpha footage !!

So far so good, i am impressed :D

spskeff2

08-19-2009, 01:22 PM

Many thanks!

Guardian of Forever ... wow, they're really going deep.

Why is Cryptic holding back??? The PR people ought to be going gangbusters with this stuff!

I think after champions is launched... juicy info on this game will start coming out of the woodwork. It's good to hear that they are still on schedule. Cross our fingers for a steady launch!!

Nytok

08-19-2009, 01:24 PM

Hell of a nice find Loekii. STO looks like it's coming along nicely, or at least combat is.

Jar-Hamel_Shran

08-19-2009, 01:25 PM

I see Andorians, Romulans, Reman, and Gorns OMG. We're not in Kansas anymore.

Looks very promising, hopefully enough different game style to appeal to lots of players.
Now we just need more... In Game videos... ok, just give us Beta soon. :)

MSG56

08-19-2009, 01:26 PM

AWESOME! The game is already looking great (visually). I hope they release this video on the main STO website!

Fvillha

08-19-2009, 01:29 PM

Bachynski_123

08-19-2009, 01:29 PM

That videos was incredible. Saw lot of ground and space combat footage and lots of ship designs.

Also saw some TNG skins so hopefully that means we don't have to have futuristic looking ships.

Game looks great, and I'm getting even more pumped. Thanks to Cryptic for making a game worth waiting for and ,eventually, playing.

LordDave

08-19-2009, 01:30 PM

At first I was disappointed at this, but then you did have such things with the Sulabon in ENT.

While Ground combat looks nice, and I like the overall pace, I am still concerned it will play like SWG, with people just running around in circles shooting at each other, rather than players seeking cover and fortified positions.
That's what it looks like to me. Mostly standing around and shooting. Unless your fighting someone with melee, then it looks like you get killed very quickly.

Why is Cryptic holding back??? The PR people ought to be going gangbusters with this stuff!

Because that wasn't meant for us. :p

Manta2015

08-19-2009, 01:30 PM

New awesome ships I noticed:

Scimitar / Reman using it's Tholoron weapon.

Prometheus variants.

Negh'Vars -- everywhere :D

Intrepid of course

It actually said NCC-1701-D on that Galaxy.

Olympic class variant, one had a flat saucer section.

Romulan Norexan ~

I also swore I saw a couple Defiants in there.

Only complaints I have is a small explosion for one of the D'deridex's, and a couple ships have a bit of jagged movement ~ Otherwise, man --- The explosions, the epic battles. All looks quite amazing, nit-picking aside my hopes just skyrocketed. After some good polish, there's a damn good chance we're looking at a winner =)

-Manta-

zorba

08-19-2009, 01:31 PM

Awesome i like it! Just like someone sad in post up, there are to many phasers in one moment.

Forgot to say, thanks for sharing this video with us.

IIntrude

08-19-2009, 01:31 PM

Thanks for linking this.

I am sold on the space combat, it looked great. Big ships turned nice big slow circles, smaller ships were more nimble. And it looks like we can expect some massive battles. If it is true that the video footage shown was sped up then that is a plus.

The ground combat confirmed what I was worried about. Looks very run and gun, little no no use of cover. Basically a SWG battle. It may be fun, I'll wait and see. I was hoping for something more on the ground combat side. Maybe it was just the video itself, but I somehow doubt it.

Overall I am very impressed and very excited.

SelorKiith

08-19-2009, 01:32 PM

Prometheus variants.

I think those were actually Modified Cheyenne Class Vessels :D

Sorbek

08-19-2009, 01:33 PM

Someone please help me pick my jaw up off the floor....I need this game bad!!!

Hopefully this was just a teaser and there is another one gonna be displayed at PAX.

What a treat...I'm still in awe.

IIntrude

08-19-2009, 01:34 PM

Only complaints I have is a small explosion for one of the D'deridex's, and a couple ships have a bit of jagged movement ~ Otherwise, man --- The explosions, the epic battles. All looks quite amazing, nit-picking aside my hopes just skyrocketed. After some good polish, there's a damn good chance we're looking at a winner =) -Manta-

I second those complaints, though I imagine they are just early version glitches. When the Warbird exploded into a small poof, I was kind of taken aback. And I agree some of the movements were very jerky. But it shows fantastic potential once cleaned up.

Manta2015

08-19-2009, 01:37 PM

I think those were actually Modified Cheyenne Class Vessels :D

Indeed, I noticed how the pylons join to the nacelles as well. I'm betting that's officially the stargazer class, mix and match with Cheyenne and Prometheus segments =)

-Manta-

SelorKiith

08-19-2009, 01:39 PM

Indeed, I noticed how the pylons join to the nacelles as well. I'm betting that's officially the stargazer class, mix and match with Cheyenne and Prometheus segments =)

-Manta-

Ah yeah... forgot the Stargazer... ^^

The_Padre

08-19-2009, 01:44 PM

I think I've fried my right eye, it's stinging like frak after watching that video a few times...

Genex

08-19-2009, 01:45 PM

Indeed, I noticed how the pylons join to the nacelles as well. I'm betting that's officially the stargazer class, mix and match with Cheyenne and Prometheus segments =)

-Manta-

Most likely Cheyenne, as in season 2of TNG The stargazer (Constellation Class) was 40 years old if i remember? (TNG The Game?), and the Cheyenne was still being used as it was at the battle of W359, as for prommy, it seems like its a sister or even a cousin to the two previous classes

dru_mcd

08-19-2009, 01:45 PM

Can someone confirm if that's a Constitution at 2:40-2:49 or if it's an Excalibur/Excelsior?

I thought that the other ship was a Prometheus too, but now I'm not sure - there seemed to be no secondary hull and the primary hull was a bit more rounded - it does seem to be more like a Cheyenne to me now.

Hansol

08-19-2009, 01:46 PM

Overall i like it , but wonder if there will be normal exploding ships not just 1 fireball, that just looks stuppid..

If you can shoot small parts of ships in games like Star Trek: Klingon Academy that are now humm 9 or allmost 10 years old...

Or did i miss something?

Paulo999

08-19-2009, 01:50 PM

I think those were actually Modified Cheyenne Class Vessels :D

me too :eek: EPIC!

Zethyr

08-19-2009, 01:50 PM

Did anyone catch what the species was that had the personal cloaking device in ground combat somewhere around 1:30? Looked like a cool ability to have....

I thought it was a Jem'hadar they have that ability!

Swordopolis

08-19-2009, 01:56 PM

Space combat looks really fast paced, not really tactical. Also I dislike how many beams ships have, that galor was firing 5 beams at once.

It's hard to tell at time from the footage whether the beams were incoming or outgoing, but that Galor-class wasn't firing more than two phasers at once.

njdss4

08-19-2009, 01:59 PM

It actually said NCC-1701-D on that Galaxy.

Yeah, I mentioned that in my post a page or two before you. It's Cryptic, so they can do whatever they want!

Trekkie

08-19-2009, 02:00 PM

Wow, this was an awesome find! Thank you for bringing it to the community's attention . . . I am forever grateful, that's for sure.

Galv

08-19-2009, 02:00 PM

Thank you for the link Loekii.

I take back anything negative i've ever said about STO, looks like they've nailed it to me.

Manta2015

08-19-2009, 02:05 PM

Most likely Cheyenne, as in season 2of TNG The stargazer (Constellation Class) was 40 years old if i remember? (TNG The Game?), and the Cheyenne was still being used as it was at the battle of W359, as for prommy, it seems like its a sister or even a cousin to the two previous classes

The Stargazer from TNG was a Constellation class.

The Stargazer class (what I'm talking about) was mentioned by Cryptic.

Seeing that we've got Prometheus and Cheyenne parts added to the mix, call it an educated guess ~ I think that's what it is =)

-Manta-

Fleming86

08-19-2009, 02:05 PM

If you can shoot small parts of ships in games like Star Trek: Klingon Academy that are now humm 9 or allmost 10 years old...

Or did i miss something?

With a mmorpg they try to generally save drainage on the cpu, debris is a minor concern really. With a game like klingon academy they can afford to drain all they like.

Awarkle

08-19-2009, 02:08 PM

excellent video (pitty baout the angle) however i will add one thing which seemed to anoy me, the phaser sound effects were near on constant in that starship battle, the question is do we have an option to turn it off because for the few minutes it was on in the video it was incredibly anoying.

Other than that i think its change of pants time.

X01103

08-19-2009, 02:09 PM

*edit* nvm apparently that was just a burst effect and multiple phasers. Must have blinked at the wrong second. Still a great video though.

Commander_Nate

08-19-2009, 02:10 PM

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

I dunno what people are complaining about with the space combat, beams, and ground combat. I guess they didn't watch DS9 because that looked a lot like it to me.

This was really cool and I hope they come out with a video that goes more in detail and shows some exploration and diplomacy stuff.

BTW, what kind of ship was that modified Intrepid fighting about halfway through? It looked like it might have been Orion or Gorn maybe but I didn't recognize it. Thoughts?

KODudna

08-19-2009, 02:10 PM

Oh mah Gawd, was that.... 3D movement???? Lulz

Manta2015

08-19-2009, 02:12 PM

I noticed the galaxy class' phaser arced around it's upper ring and didn't just appear out the front. May seem minor but it made me smile =)

Oh snap!

(goes back to look)

Details like this are immensely awesome, thanks Cryptic! =)

-Manta-

jagerbolt

08-19-2009, 02:13 PM

WOW!

Space combat looks amazing! The screen shots do not do the game justice, it looks fantastic in motion. :D:D

Ground combat looks like it needs a little polish but I liked what I saw. That sweeping kick that dropped the Klingon was pretty cool. Agree with the others in hoping it doesn't turn into a 'run around like crazy shooting' style of combat.

Only nitpick that I had was when the large ships exploded. It disappearing and a little tiny explosion popping out kind of breaks the illusion. I'm sure something like that can be fixed tho.

Please Cryptic post the video on the site! That would be so great.

Varrangian

08-19-2009, 02:14 PM

Thanks Loekii and anonymous person who tipped Loekii off... it is one thing to see some of these things in pictures it is another thing completely to see them in full motion. Looking good, looking very good.

Paratus6

08-19-2009, 02:17 PM

Thanks to the OP for the link to this video!
S!
We've got some nice footage of space combat. I have to admit that I'm a little impressed with the space combat. Yeah, some of the ship's movements seemed to jerk around a bit, but this is an Alpha version. I'm sure that this will be cleaned up.
I didn't see any of the tactical markings/graphics that one would see on a UI, so this tells me that it is a third-person camera view strictly for demonstration purposes. It looks cool, but this is not how we will see the game on our screens. Something important to note, here.
Not too impressed with the ground combat, though. Like others have pointed out, it does seem similar to SWG combat. God, I hope not. I would prefer to see CQB be much more tactical; with cover, concealment, suppressive fire, and coordinated maneuver being vital.
Overall, I'm still impressed enough to keep me pumped about the game.

JoJimGregory

08-19-2009, 02:17 PM

Good find, and I give it two giant thumbs up overall.:D Of course, there's always room for constructive critiquing.

While the space combat may look a bit fast paced, in addition to it running at a slightly faster than normal speed as someone mentioned, some of that speediness appears to be caused by the camera view swinging around quickly now and then. The pace of the ships themselves looks to be okay, although perhaps a bit slower would be nice. I want lumbering behemoths to behave like lumbering behemoths.

Ground combat, as others have mentioned, needs work. No one was seeking cover that I could see, so hopefully there will be more tactics added before release. The shield effects looked pretty cool. Really need to add the kneel and prone and cover-seeking aspects or it will look very much like SWG all over again. The movement animations looked to need some work as well.

Both space and ground looked very frenetic overall. The space scenes in particular looked a lot busier than I expected and almost sensory overwhelming, perhaps because there is an awful lot of clutter in the shots. Tons of asteroid bits and nebula and stations and such, which I realize for this type of combat helps to establish a sense of movement in the game. It's like in the early motion picture days when they realized they needed clouds in the shots or the Sopwith Camels would look nearly motionless against a pure blue sky.

Still, the clutter may be a bit overdone, like an overproduced movie set.

Anyway, I've only watched it twice thus far so these are just initial, knee-jerk reactions and I'm sure I missed some details. But I will say, it's got the razzle-dazzle effects down pat. :)

bothan

08-19-2009, 02:20 PM

Hmm....

Were those Nausicaans at 1:01-1:06, 2:10-2:13, and 3:27-3:28? :cool:

Hansol

08-19-2009, 02:25 PM

With a mmorpg they try to generally save drainage on the cpu, debris is a minor concern really. With a game like klingon academy they can afford to drain all they like.

well thats fine but having bit nicer explode effect of a ship van be nice, just random 1 big and some small ones depens on what your hitting or something...

just find overall 1 small explosion that is smaller then the ship it self is just weird :P

RetroX

08-19-2009, 02:31 PM

Just awesome! Totally rocked, i really cant wait for it I am actually excited it.

Now just need a Bridge booth to rival TOR's jedii temple:P

Jor-El

08-19-2009, 02:33 PM

No need to say more... I m on that game !

but as said before, some improvement needs to be done with ground combat. what I saw is not StarTrek phaser fight.
They seem to forgot the cover aspect. but the game is not to be release anytime soon. so It can come later in.

Both space and ground looked very frenetic overall. The space scenes in particular looked a lot busier than I expected and almost sensory overwhelming, perhaps because there is an awful lot of clutter in the shots. Tons of asteroid bits and nebula and stations and such, which I realize for this type of combat helps to establish a sense of movement in the game

Well, I have re re watch the serie final of DS9 where the huge battle against the dominion takes place. I must said, the battle doesn't look the same from which point of view you look at.

When you are at side of Galaxy class, the battle look slow, the phaser shoot are "slow" and powerful. But when it come to the Defiant, it is small and nervous. Moving fast between ship, photon torpedoes, phaser fire etc...
Same thing in First Contact. During the battle against the Borg. the Defiant is movie fast, shooting, avoiding Borg phaser, than, the Enterprise comes in, and the rhythm become slower.

So for the space fight we'll have to wait a gameplay vid... or to get our hands on it... DEV ??? XD

but anyway... I m going to love this game ^^

PattonJ007

08-19-2009, 02:33 PM

AWESOME! The game is already looking great (visually). I hope they release this video on the main STO website!

OMG OMG OMG OH MY GAWD OH MY GAWD OMG OMG OMG...

...So when are we going to be able to download this?

spskeff2

08-19-2009, 02:34 PM

well thats fine but having bit nicer explode effect of a ship van be nice, just random 1 big and some small ones depens on what your hitting or something...

just find overall 1 small explosion that is smaller then the ship it self is just weird :P

Keep in mind...the game is still in Alpha stages. Remember the trailer from a year ago? I think the explosions (and other visual elements) look different now than they did in '08. By the time we first log into the game, i imagine the eye candy (alone) will be even better than what we are seeing now.

CapTrott

08-19-2009, 02:38 PM

At first I was disappointed at this, but then you did have such things with the Sulabon in ENT.

While Ground combat looks nice, and I like the overall pace, I am still concerned it will play like SWG, with people just running around in circles shooting at each other, rather than players seeking cover and fortified positions.

Personal cloaks have been around longer than Star Trek: Enterprise. The Jemahaddar used that technology on Deep Space 9 and there were a few species who used that in Star Trek Voyager also.

Commodore_Rook

08-19-2009, 02:43 PM

While a very cool video, I am concerned this will be just one big phaser fest game. I relize phaser battles are exciting and shows off what the game can do, but I really hope we arn't firing the phasers as much as this clip shows! (both in space and on ground)

Varrangian

08-19-2009, 02:45 PM

For all those people complaining that the video is too combat centric... care to tell me how you make a video for a video game that makes diplomacy look fun? Or makes science look fun?

quette4000

08-19-2009, 02:48 PM

I just hope the AI of the NPC foes and my BO aren't dumbed down!:cool:

Vuk

08-19-2009, 02:50 PM

I liked a lot of what i saw a couple of things concerned me , I'll have to wait until I get home to view it.

ZeframCochrane

08-19-2009, 02:50 PM

daviboi83

08-19-2009, 02:50 PM

Did anyone notice that there weren't any shield impacts on any of the ships during the space battles?

The only shield like effect i saw was on the freighter that was wiped out by the schimitar uber weapon.

Hope this changes before release!

I'd love to be able to approach a battle and be able to distinguish the fed ships from the klingon ships by shield impact colour. It wold be a nice touch anyway.

I am loving the scenes with the Guardian. It even had whisps of smoke coming from it- very good atention to detail.

I loved the enterprise D firing phasers at the source of the tractor beam to free itself. Good call!

This video rocks.

I gasped when the scimitar's "wings" started to spread.

I think our Star Trek universe is in good hands with Cryptic all in all.

Well done for the find! - Gold pressed Latinum this one!

:D

SelorKiith

08-19-2009, 02:53 PM

I dunno, this vid raises some serious questions.

I know we are still in development but I'm concerned about those gridlines in the game, is that some sort of targeting system? They really seems out of place. And I'm afraid that pinkish orange border is a bit distracting, hopefully you can change that in the UI. Also, it looks like you are looking at your ship from some weird angle. Is that intentional?

I'm just a little worried here.

Well... do you have the same Vid? There is no grid... the only grid is the Black lines one beeing the egde of the TVs... and for what pinkish orange Border? Could you provide Shots of what you mean?

Edit: Ah I see.. the pinkish orange boarde... is actually the wall and the lightning ^^
The Angle is... because the filmer is standing at this angle to the big TVs ;)

So... either that was a joke... or you have to explain something ^^

Threshold

08-19-2009, 02:55 PM

[QUOTE=daviboi83;709910]Did anyone notice that there weren't any shield impacts on any of the ships during the space battles?

The only shield like effect i saw was on the freighter that was wiped out by the schimitar uber weapon.
/QUOTE]

There are shield impacts in the game. I believe that the devs may have taken them out to add dramatic effect and speed up the battles.

I was at the live game play demonstration in Las Vegas and there are shields and shield impacts.

The_Padre

08-19-2009, 02:56 PM

I gasped when the scimitar's "wings" started to spread.

Funny, I also said to myself "Oh no" when that happened :D

JoJimGregory

08-19-2009, 02:57 PM

For all those people complaining that the video is too combat centric... care to tell me how you make a video for a video game that makes diplomacy look fun? Or makes science look fun?

Not complaining that it's combat centric. That just happens to be what they're working on right now, so I wasn't expecting anything else.

However, what I do think would improve it, for my own personal tastes anyway, would be instead of ship phaser shots being whole beams that extend from the phaser bank all the way to the target ship and remain on, if they were shorter streaks or bursts. I know, there are continuous phaser beams in canon. It just seems a bit too overdone when you see the whole panorama of a huge combat and a dozen or more beams in near constant "ON" mode, like permanent lines drawn between the ships.

I'll have to watch it again to see if my memory perception is accurate or not, but later, it's dinner time now. :cool:

curtst

08-19-2009, 02:57 PM

Wonder when Cryptic will release this video? I would love to see a better quality one.

Varrangian

08-19-2009, 03:00 PM

Not complaining that it's combat centric. That just happens to be what they're working on right now, so I wasn't expecting anything else.

However, what I do think would improve it, for my own personal tastes anyway, would be instead of ship phaser shots being whole beams that extend from the phaser bank all the way to the target ship and remain on, if they were shorter streaks or bursts. I know, there are continuous phaser beams in canon. It just seems a bit too overdone when you see the whole panorama of a huge combat and a dozen or more beams in near constant "ON" mode, like permanent lines drawn between the ships.

I'll have to watch it again to see if my memory perception is accurate or not, but later, it's dinner time now. :cool:

What I'm saying is that a trailer like this is suppose to be "exciting", if you watch all Trailers for Trek movies you'll see that even when science or diplomacy are parts of the story the trailer itself looks like nothing but non-stop combat. That's what a trailer is going to show, because even in 5 minutes you can make science or diplomacy seem exciting you need an entire movie (or game in this case) to build context and consequences, you can't do that in a game trailer.

daviboi83

08-19-2009, 03:09 PM

Thank you Threshold. I am happier still now.

My main disappointment would be that the devs have talked about trekkie maneuvers such as extending yor shields around friendly ships which would be retty cool! Dunno if it will be in game for sure but we can hope eh?

Thanks again

i think when (if) they release the vid it should be in real time so we get a better idea how it will look in game.

I have watched the vid so many times. I LOVE the phasers in the space battles and i think i will have a big O if we ever get a glimpse of a fed special weapon- possibly multiple O's if it involves the deflector dish! ;)

PigUp

08-19-2009, 03:19 PM

Ship engine trails...

*runs* :p

captnusa

08-19-2009, 03:27 PM

OH...MY...GOD...I think I've soiled myself...I can't wait

RabbiBoker

08-19-2009, 03:39 PM

freaking awesome

Phantomraptor

08-19-2009, 03:46 PM

The video was good...but that Scimitar attack was "FRUITY"

Moony

08-19-2009, 04:04 PM

great video, thx Loekii for this link

@Cryptic pls give us the video for download

moony

Elboulevardo

08-19-2009, 04:08 PM

talk about making everyone happy all in one link lol!

hope everyone keeps in mind that this is alpha build material so try not to get tooooooooooooo disappointed with some of the obvious flaws

even in its alpha stage it looks remarkably polished...from this point forward, id be nice to see some of the following improvements:

1) slow down the pace by 10 or 15 percent
2) shields? (lol, im sure they will be there)
3) less jagged ship movement, the banks from left to right looked very jagged, animation could be smoother
4) there seemed to be a lot of stationary ships during combat...hope thats just cuz its an alpha demo and not a preferred tactic

im gonna reserve comment about ground combat cuz its even less finished then space combat...graphically it looked fantastic!

all in all, very happy! i hope cryptic doesnt "cop out" and offer us the same demo video :D

OddjobXL

08-19-2009, 04:14 PM

It did seem to flow a bit fast didn't it? And what's with the wobbly ship movement in some of the shots? They look like when they rub up against an object they don't smoothly rebound with some force of inertia but bobble about in place.

I think if I wanted a Star Trek combat MMO I'd be happy with this footage. That said I'm not sure that's what I want from Star Trek. I'm not sure that's what most people even associate with Star Trek. There are other settings much more rewarding for the bloodyminded and far more likely to attract them.

Gideon

08-19-2009, 04:18 PM

Only nitpick that I had was when the large ships exploded. It disappearing and a little tiny explosion popping out kind of breaks the illusion. I'm sure something like that can be fixed tho..

Are you talking about the Romulan ship? If so, could this be because of the singularity drive and the ship explodes then falls in on itself? Another ship, federation I think, blows up earlier in the video and the explosion seemed larger. Or maybe it's due to a BO skill, something like a tractor beam or effect of a torpedo to "contain" an exploding ship. The Dev's did say if you get too close when you destroy a ship you could take damage, maybe there is something in game play to counter that.

USS_Parallax

08-19-2009, 04:18 PM

FINALLY!

Space looks great and fresh! I can't wait for space!

On foot doesn't look as good or fresh. I'd like to see them react to hits more and look less MMO in at least just the visuals.

10/10 space

7.5/10 foot

But I've barely seen anything so I cannot say.

Lepton

08-19-2009, 04:42 PM

Two things:

1. Cryptic, release that damn video now.
2. Ground combat continues to look like hell. Please don't release the game until you get it right and this ain't right.

Otherwise, it looked great. Might be nice to actually see some gameplay from the Klingon perspective since it is the other, the only other, faction in the frigging game. How about it?

USS_Parallax

08-19-2009, 04:47 PM

They've said they're working on Federation content first mostly. Chances are much of the Klingon content simply doesn't exist yet.

Tain

08-19-2009, 04:48 PM

WTF was up with the crackbaby space fighting? Or were the space segments sped up slightly? They were maneuvering WAY too quick way too close to one another. Otherwise it looks pretty awesome.

billybob442

08-19-2009, 04:58 PM

Sorry if this is a bit long.

Thanks to the OP for the link to this video!
…
Not too impressed with the ground combat, though. Like others have pointed out, it does seem similar to SWG combat. God, I hope not. I would prefer to see CQB be much more tactical; with cover, concealment, suppressive fire, and coordinated maneuver being vital.
Overall, I'm still impressed enough to keep me pumped about the game.

Paratus - couldn't agree more. I'd rather see combat dominated by cover, suppression fire & positioning than have it dominated by shield recharge rates.

I get the impression you're going to stand out in the open to fight. Once your health gets low you run back to cover to heal up then run back out in the open to fight some more. I think Cryptic is taking this approach to CQC in STO because it's based off the Champions engine which was built to simulate superheroes and that sort of fighting does fit very well with a comic book characters. Unfortunately this conflicts with the IP because the characters in Star Trek series are made to be just as vulnerable as real people and real people don't fight like comic book characters.

Much rather see people who fought from cover instead of just using cover as a heal point.

Both space and ground looked very frenetic overall. The space scenes in particular looked a lot busier than I expected and almost sensory overwhelming, perhaps because there is an awful lot of clutter in the shots. Tons of asteroid bits and nebula and stations and such, which I realize for this type of combat helps to establish a sense of movement in the game. It's like in the early motion picture days when they realized they needed clouds in the shots or the Sopwith Camels would look nearly motionless against a pure blue sky.

Still, the clutter may be a bit overdone, like an overproduced movie set.

Anyway, I've only watched it twice thus far so these are just initial, knee-jerk reactions and I'm sure I missed some details. But I will say, it's got the razzle-dazzle effects down pat. :)[/COLOR]

So far I've not seen any plain old fashioned 'star on a black backdrop' scenes. The clutter gives a great feeling of motion but it doesn't give the feel of being out in deep space. I'd like to see Cryptic change the backgrounds up a bit.

It did seem to flow a bit fast didn't it? And what's with the wobbly ship movement in some of the shots? They look like when they rub up against an object they don't smoothly rebound with some force of inertia but bobble about in place.

I think if I wanted a Star Trek combat MMO I'd be happy with this footage. That said I'm not sure that's what I want from Star Trek. I'm not sure that's what most people even associate with Star Trek. There are other settings much more rewarding for the bloodyminded and far more likely to attract them.

Hoping to see some non-combat elements discussed. Everything to date has been VERY combat-centric. Combat is not what I naturally associate with the IP. In the shows Starfleet captains tended to defeat the warmonger types because their best weapons were matters of brainpower not firepower.

Swea

08-19-2009, 05:24 PM

This is curticy of "WebGuest28" in the chat.

It's video from GAMESCOM.

"Check out lots of brand new footage of Star Trek Online shot off screen from Namco Bandai/Atari's Gamescom press conference."

http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/26006

Pretty great video.

thanks for posting this, awesome vid

cocoa-jin

08-19-2009, 05:47 PM

I've certainly been critical of the maneuver model...Im still critical of it but I have to admit, they pulled off the lack of full maneuvering better than I thought they would. I still hold that the lack of full maneuvering limits tactical options and I believe it'll still be an issue later. In the mean time, the current model does display well.

My new gripe is regarding the fluidity of maneuvers and explosions when a ship is destroyed. The ships seems to be jerky at times, there is no sense of mass/inertia. The tall ship concept seemed more like jet skis battling it out. Some of the maneuvers appeared to lack grace and fluidity.

The destruction of the D'Deridex as dissapointing and and anti-climatic. The vessel blinks out, the small explosion replaces it...way out of scale. No distinguishable parts from the vessel...is there even a dead, burned out hulk option for a defeated ship? Or is it going to be the same played out "big kablooie" style deaths? Can we please get something more sophisticated?

JoJimGregory

08-19-2009, 05:49 PM

It is alpha and for an alpha it looks pretty sharp. A lot of what we're seeing that needs tweaking is just what beta is for. To get the movements right and looking crisp and smooth. They do seem to be a lot farther along than I expected.

Highlander

08-19-2009, 06:03 PM

Looks pretty awesome!! only thing that bugged me was it seems the ships movements were abit skippy

Citationpilot

08-19-2009, 06:04 PM

nice thx for link

MajorD

08-19-2009, 07:33 PM

Starship maximum combat ranges seem to be just right, except it looks like it will always inevitably turn into a furball. It would be worthwhile to play around with the minimum ranges so crowding like that seen in the video either is rarer or doesn't happen at all. One way would be to reduce the advantage for getting in close and extending the minimum range of very close attacks. If there has to be massive ship death explosions, then increase those self destruct radius ranges and intensity to make up for better distance keeping. Ship speed really is way too slow, nearly unbearable looking. Even doubling the minimum speed with maxed weapons and defense would fix that right up, making the pacing stately instead of plodding.

I also saw a couple interesting ships for once. I think one of the alternate forward hulls for that medical ship with the sphere head might have force field bulkheads, which would be a really cool change of pace. I also saw an interesting aft section for a four nacelle ship there the top and bottom pylons are connected by a loop of hull. I also saw that one in PC Gamer.

I didn't like seeing what I expected with the weapons, that phasers were firing from the edges of hulls instead of from arrays and other hardpoints. The weapons have taken the lowest form possible, I can only hope that is changed in the future.

Ground combat ranges are horribly short. I'm actually left wanting there to be no shields so I don't have to see people standing five feet in front of each firing the equivalent of machines guns at each other. The one aspect of melee I thought was very cool was the Starfleet guy doing a sweep kick to knock the other guy down, it's cool to see and it's just about the only melee attack that comes close to making sense. Ideally, weapon ranges would be at least as long as real life weapons, but with personal cloaks, sensor jammers, and traps for ambushes. Low end maximum should be 500 yards to fit with the 500 km of space combat. Using terrain dead zones, concealment, and cover should be critical to maneuvering.

loyaltrekie

08-19-2009, 07:36 PM

Considering Cryptic clearly has the montage saved; I would love to see them upload it in its actual quality for everyone to view online who couldn't attend the conference. While I did take a look at the video; the quality is so awful I just turned it off. Heres hoping we get some content on the site like the above posted video soon :(

bjwalle1

08-19-2009, 07:55 PM

Nothing we couldn't infer ourselves, but a bit more confirmation

Also, was that the Scimitar at 3:15?

I am Certain that it was!!!!!! SWEET I am so Sold on this game!!!! Just by that video. That was the best video yet, only question can it really be that cool????? I agree there where some glitchy feeling abit but not much. That's what the beta testers are for.

sexymexy

08-19-2009, 08:01 PM

I liked it quite abit minus afew thing, the jerkiness of the Intrepid was kinda awkward are it flew over a ship firing, however I can dig it because it gives the player greater control of their ship for more intense battles.

The 15 phasers seemed a little much just to the point of trying to figure out what was going on, identify ships and possible attack paths. (Then again the combat is alot faster than I thought which is a plus) I was afraid it was going to be so tactical I could type in /Attack pattern Delta WIN, then go AFK...

Ground combat was fast paced, kinda weird how they watch as an angry Klingon comes charging in with a Bat'Leth and they fail to move....I guess the Feds will be easy prey as long as we dont attack that one guy who knows a Mr. Myagi Sweep move....

In general though I like the direction and look of the game. It has it minor things but nothing that cant be overlooked in those space battles.

P.S. Cryptic make those ship explosions BIGGER!!!!!!!!!!! If that Reman Warbird charges up SHES GONNA BLOW GET AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pew....:confused:

Banar

08-19-2009, 08:04 PM

Other than the lack of shield effects on all but (maybe) 2 or 3 ships, I'm happy with space combat :) It does look like they sped it up a bit, I would like to see what it is like at a normal pace. I'm sure any small gripes I might have will be addressed in good time.

Ground combat is meh, but it's also my understanding that they haven't been concentrating on that yet so no real problem.

Did anyone else hear Zinc (Craig) say that "Cryptic is excited to release the game next year" or something to that effect... ;) Not that we didn't really already know this. But it was interesting to hear.

Tirus

08-19-2009, 08:08 PM

This was fun to see. My only regret is I won't be flying the Romulan ships at launch for the Romulan Star Empire.

ibby1kanobi

08-19-2009, 08:11 PM

I gotta go change real quick....

That made me pretty excited. At least for the space battle stuff, the ground combat seemed "meh" to me honestly. Although ST did have drama on the ground, it usually ended before a phaser fight, or after a shot or two went off, so ST isn't about ground combat. It's about away missions and puzzle solving, but not combat.

Space is where it's at man....

I'm excited again.

THORN74

08-19-2009, 08:17 PM

incredible vid!!!!

i just soiled my armour....:eek:

THORN74

08-19-2009, 08:25 PM

i jusr rewatched it.... i am pretty sure i saw a Constitution refit at the top of the screen @ 2:38-2:40

anyone else see that ??

Voyager24

08-19-2009, 08:38 PM

That was an awesome video thanks for finding it. :)

quette4000

08-19-2009, 09:02 PM

Looks good so far!:cool:

Trowa824

08-19-2009, 09:05 PM

This makes me happy; I watched this 3 times in a row.

JeanNYGUARD

08-19-2009, 09:20 PM

What did you guys think about the new gameplay footage that Cryptic just released at The Germany GameCon?

http://startrek-gaming.com/wp/2009/08/20/brand-new-sto-video/

IS IT INCREDIBLE OR WHAT!

andrewprofit

08-19-2009, 09:28 PM

Wow that is totally amazing. Space battles totally look and sound awesome. Ground combat looks like its fast paced for an mmo which is a plesant surprise. The characters look great.

Well I think that answers my subscription question. Three lifetime subscriptions please.

Epic!

Drexxus3d

08-19-2009, 09:31 PM

LunaticFringer

08-19-2009, 09:32 PM

That looked pretty darn sweet to me... :)

andrewprofit

08-19-2009, 09:38 PM

What did you guys think about the new gameplay footage that Cryptic just released at The Germany GameCon?

http://startrek-gaming.com/wp/2009/08/20/brand-new-sto-video/

IS IT INCREDIBLE OR WHAT!

It is Epic!

REEDER

08-19-2009, 09:41 PM

i want to shoot something

Deadjester1

08-19-2009, 09:42 PM

I liked it for the most part.

What I liked:

I thought the graphics were great!
It looked like it played pretty smooth
I saw a varity of Ships and Chars
It actually felt like I was watching Klingons and Feds

What I have issues with:

I think the ships moved to fast to really be able to really play that Sabier fight where you are trying to jocky for weapon and shield arcs positions.
Photons blew up just like the show which I despised, it looked like molitov coctails instead of anti-matter detenations going off. Photon Torps are not some gas can that cought fire and finely blew up.
Ship explosions were to small, looked like they imploded and not exploded.
It would be nice if Fec Security actually wore some type of armor and actually LOOKED like security instead of just another fed that could be on garbage duty.

Those would be the pros and cons off the top of my head. will look at it again in more depth later, off to bed.

Solomon_Kane

08-19-2009, 09:48 PM

Looks a lot better than I could've hoped for. Looks like I might need to upgrade my PC.... again.

Trekid

08-19-2009, 09:49 PM

Thank goodness. Thought I was going to get rickrolled there. :eek:

Not sure I like some of the ship customizations. Some are bordering on ridiculous looking to my eyes.

Varrangian

08-19-2009, 09:52 PM

I'm as giddy as a school girl. I keep seeing it and reminding myself this is one game, not three games, but one game with all of that content... :D

pacejohntom

08-19-2009, 10:00 PM

I saw an Intrepid class configuration!!! Woot!

ndat

08-19-2009, 10:04 PM

Looks like nice graphics and good combat. I just hope they have the narrative and open ended problem solving to back it up.

boothby

08-19-2009, 10:24 PM

nice video :)

Loekii

08-19-2009, 10:29 PM

Looks a lot better than I could've hoped for. Looks like I might need to upgrade my PC.... again.

I can hope pretty high, but I will say it looks better than I expect.

Now just make sure its 'fun'. :D

Davies82

08-19-2009, 10:54 PM

Thanks for posting this Leokii.

The vidoe looks awesome, the graphics looks really good. Space battles and the space itself look amazing.

So is this the video that Cryptic will plan to put on the website next month then?

brisnmundaen

08-19-2009, 11:23 PM

Did anyone listen to the guy talking in the video he said cryptic will be releasing the game next year so that everyone around the world can enjoy it

if you want to listen it at about 4:50 on the vid just listen from about 4:50 to 5:08 or so

sorry if someone already posted on this i just watched the vid tho :)

Varrangian

08-19-2009, 11:24 PM

Did anyone listen to the guy talking in the video he said cryptic will be releasing the game next year so that everyone around the world can enjoy it

if you want to listen it at about 5:00 on the vid just listen from about 5:00 to 5:08 or so

sorry if someone already posted on this i just watched the vid tho :)

The guy talking was Craig Zinc(I'm not going to bother trying to spell his name) :p the producer of STO.

brisnmundaen

08-19-2009, 11:26 PM

very cool very cool at least we have a year of release now tho :)

I figured it would be 2010 because of the beta thinger that you can get for CO which also said beta starting later this year.

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maxgrimberger

08-19-2009, 11:37 PM

finally something new to watch...
now that I have seen it... roughly 10 times...
I want MOOOOOORE!

Nikka33

08-19-2009, 11:42 PM

Awsome vid, thanks for the post.

Agree, the speed of the ships did seem a bit on the fast side in the combat scenes.

bothan

08-19-2009, 11:44 PM

i jusr rewatched it.... i am pretty sure i saw a Constitution refit at the top of the screen @ 2:38-2:40

anyone else see that ??

It looks to me like it has Excalibur nacelles.

Sumdian

08-19-2009, 11:50 PM

I liked it a lot cant wait to play it i hope the PVP battles are like that it looked like it was all out war.
there are a few things i didnt like some of the ship explosions i seen didnt match the ship size and how fast they turn i think its just a bit fast but other then that it looked nice

nadiya

08-20-2009, 01:43 AM

New Video from the Star Trek Online: http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/26006 or http://startrekonline.scifi.hu/news.php?extend.133

IanD967

08-20-2009, 01:54 AM

NICE!! :D

thanks for this

edit: will update this post with my thoughts

INTREPID!!!
VERY nice scaling (as i did proove in another thread)
Ground combat looks pretty good actually.
Space Combat looks exactly as i wanted it to be! :D thats one hell of a space battle being shown! going to be very fun i can tell!

the space shots do look great it has to be said! and again those space battle show the scaling off well.
that upgraded Intrepid looked quite good! was that an orion ship it was fighting?

Olympic class!!!
4 Naclleed Promie i belive too!

ahhh there is taht Scimitar again! and looks nasty as ever!
Romulan ship fight was cool.

erm....big ground fight??

The Gaurdian!!!!

Olympic class, Galaxy, Akira, D'Deridex, Ambassodor, Valdor.
that fight was pretty cool actually!. (obviously that battle show above these forums)

Negh'Var!!!! aswell as some Negh'Var/Fek'Ihr hybrid class, also that is ALOT of ships! is that some sort of massive PvP fight???

another 4 Naclled Promie i believe fighting....WTF?? is that some sort of Borg ship?

awesome video though! :D

Manta2015

08-20-2009, 01:57 AM

Already known ~ Uploaded yesterday at around 1pm pst.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=24731

-Manta-

IanD967

08-20-2009, 02:04 AM

Already known ~ Uploaded yesterday at around 1pm pst.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=24731

-Manta-

oh...had no idea this was posted elsewhere :confused: someone should stick these on the news.

nadiya

08-20-2009, 02:05 AM

Already known ~ Uploaded yesterday at around 1pm pst.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=24731
-Manta-

I'm sorry, I have not seen. :)

Manta2015

08-20-2009, 02:13 AM

It's all gravy ~ bottom line is that video's pretty awesome ~ seeing that we've got several months to go, Cryptic's definitely on the right track =)

-Manta-

IanD967

08-20-2009, 02:14 AM

Ahem.

OMG. Engage fanboi mode

Now who said this game is going to suck? EAT YOUR WORDS.

haha couldent of said it better myself! :D

my thoughts:
NICE!!

thanks for this video!

INTREPID!!!
VERY nice scaling (as i did proove in another thread)
Ground combat looks pretty good actually.
Space Combat looks exactly as i wanted it to be! thats one hell of a space battle being shown! going to be very fun i can tell!

the space shots do look great it has to be said! and again those space battle show the scaling off well.
that upgraded Intrepid looked quite good! was that an orion ship it was fighting?

Olympic class!!!
4 Naclleed Promie i belive too!

ahhh there is taht Scimitar again! and looks nasty as ever!
Romulan ship fight was cool.

erm....big ground fight??

The Gaurdian!!!!

Olympic class, Galaxy, Akira, D'Deridex, Ambassodor, Valdor.
that fight was pretty cool actually!. (obviously looks like that battle show above these forums in that picture)

Negh'Var!!!! aswell as some Negh'Var/Fek'Ihr hybrid class, also that is ALOT of ships! is that some sort of massive PvP fight???

another 4 Naclled Promie i believe fighting....WTF?? is that some sort of Borg ship?

upgraded Intrepid looks very good.

awesome video though!

Genex

08-20-2009, 02:17 AM

4 Naclleed Promie i belive too!

another 4 Naclled Promie i believe fighting....WTF?? is that some sort of Borg ship?

Hate to break it to you, but its not the Prometheus class, its already been discussed to death in this thread, its the Cheyenne class, its in the PC Gamer magazine

IanD967

08-20-2009, 02:18 AM

can someone tell me if that is a Gorn ship at exactly 0:17 seconds please? :)

IanD967

08-20-2009, 02:24 AM

Hate to break it to you, but its not the Prometheus class, its already been discussed to death in this thread, its the Cheyenne class, its in the PC Gamer magazine

meh, not really much of a fan of any of them myself :) but thanks for the update, i did go through this thread and did see it but post post of mine was a copy+paste from the other thread and are just my first thoughts while watching it :)

JWH

08-20-2009, 03:11 AM

I've really been waiting for this. Thank you for sharing! :)

Let's hope cryptic will loosen up a bit and start sharing more in-game footage and details.

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-20-2009, 03:23 AM

New video from the Star Trek Online: http://startrekonline.scifi.hu/news.php

Brought to you by above im just posting it as i didnt see a fresh post :)

Amnd it shows you the Intrepid, the first vessel we get the miranda and a few centaurs and others

New video from the Star Trek Online: http://startrekonline.scifi.hu/news.php

trebort5050

08-20-2009, 03:31 AM

Combat looks a lot like Legacy I think.

Also, I've not seen a shot yet of any weapons I like, they all look like they are using hand guns and MP5's :(

Is it too much to ask for a proper phaser?

Genex

08-20-2009, 03:38 AM

Brought to you by above im just posting it as i didnt see a fresh post :)

Amnd it shows you the Intrepid, the first vessel we get the miranda and a few centaurs and others

You might want to see the 14 page topic we already have on it (http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=24731)

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-20-2009, 03:47 AM

I cant stop watching it, its awesome lol

phifur

08-20-2009, 03:53 AM

The game look great to me. Look like Cryptic is doing good. :D

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-20-2009, 03:58 AM

Wow

This trailer is what so many of us have been wanting so badly for so long, It shows in great detail in game footage of dozens of ships and the main factions pretty much,

Its pretty darn lovely !!

Im loving the bit with the Close up new Intrepid configuration at 2.20 it looks prety great.

And she fires as fast and as good as the rest of them.

Cant wait to command her my self :)

LegateSovereign

08-20-2009, 03:59 AM

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-20-2009, 04:03 AM

On one hand - extreme orgasm.

On the other hand - enough catering to the trigger happy crowed. Time to brag about more aspects of the game, i think.

Well said lol

complete awesomeness,

Cryptic may i play it tonight pwweeaassee

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-20-2009, 04:14 AM

Vicelance

08-20-2009, 04:20 AM

It says 'we start as Captains',

'After you create your captain, you then move through your ship, everyone in STO is a captain'

when Cryptic told us, we would command a ship, BUT we would not necassarily be the captain, until we leveled up a rank or two. (they said this quite clearly in a couple of the interviews i have read and saved lol)

..

So have they on changed that ... hmmm

We do start as captains but not with the rank of captain. A captain is the person in command of the ship regardless of their actual rank.

I like the video and it's nice to see some more ships and a Gorn, but I have to agree that we need some more info on non-combat aspects of the game.

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-20-2009, 04:22 AM

For some reason I cannot watch the video, and I don't know why :confused:

When I try to watch it, the message apperars that the video is currently unavaliable :confused:

Can someone help me solve that problem?

you want to watch it mate, you have no idea what your missing !!

I N C R E D I B L E

Let me at it lol

what do you mean i have to wait 7 months ... arghh

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-20-2009, 04:34 AM

We do start as captains but not with the rank of captain. A captain is the person in command of the ship regardless of their actual rank.

I like the video and it's nice to see some more ships and a Gorn, but I have to agree that we need some more info on non-combat aspects of the game.

a OK, Good point lol,

I hadnt really thought of that, i was just so caught up in the sheer excitment of it all. lol

:)

(its like christmas - just u cant unwrap it, but you know its there and its gonna be big haha - even if its gonna be released in march)

LegateSovereign

08-20-2009, 04:35 AM

you want to watch it mate, you have no idea what your missing !!

I N C R E D I B L E

Let me at it lol

what do you mean i have to wait 7 months ... arghh

Yes, I do want to watch that video, but whenever i try to start it, it keeps me sending this message box:

''The video you are trying to watch is currently unavaliable. Please check back soon.''

And why is that happening I have no idea :confused: , so I'm asking for somebody's help.

Question-Guy

08-20-2009, 04:42 AM

Just awesome! I want to play it right now. :D
It`s looking very good to me. And as I could see, this was an intrepid class ship in the video. I love them.

JPJappic

08-20-2009, 05:01 AM

Ship combat looks very impressive. Ship explosions need to be bigger though (D'Deridex blowing up was too small). After having played Champions for the last few days, ground combat looks similar to what is in Champs though i'm not sure how the pet system will work with your bridge officers. I hope there's more to offer in regards to actually seeing the character you make.

JPJappic

08-20-2009, 05:03 AM

eNDIE

08-20-2009, 05:13 AM

nice i guess its that movie cryptic is gonna show at pax:)

slingbladez

08-20-2009, 05:16 AM

For some reason I cannot watch the video, and I don't know why :confused:

When I try to watch it, the message apperars that the video is currently unavaliable :confused:

Can someone help me solve that problem?

My brother had the same problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFByomfTCg
someone uploaded it to youtube late yesterday

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-20-2009, 05:37 AM

Well they still have 7 months of creating in game to do, so in the next 7 months its sure to get better.

(7 months if the thoughts of it being released by march are correct.)

But i loved how it looks so far, theres always going to be some people that love bits and hate bits, they cant please everyone, But they can do a good point and making most people content by making is great as possible and so far it looks awesome :)

ExpendableCrewman

08-20-2009, 05:43 AM

Yeah Im impressed the ship 2 ship fighting alone seems AWSM!!!!! To add the ground combat as well this game is lookin 2 b pretty KEWL.

LegateSovereign

08-20-2009, 05:45 AM

My brother had the same problem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IFByomfTCg
someone uploaded it to youtube late yesterday

Thanks for help! ;)

The video is excellent! We can see a lot of canon ships in it (Negh'Var, Galaxy, Intrepid, Scimitar, BOP, Vor'Cha, D'deridex, Norexan...). Starship fights are also very impressive, and ground combats are also very nice. From what I've seen in this video I think that the game will be great :)

Sir_Cedric

08-20-2009, 05:46 AM

WoW just Wow!!!

Now that's what I am talking about. Loved this video, I can't wait to get my hands on this game.

After seeing the battles, it's going to be hard to stick to pure space exploration. lol

Dreadnought05

08-20-2009, 06:39 AM

i just watched it again. I'm floored. I guess this is what will be at PAX and eventually online.

:eek:

In the mean time, this LARGER version should suffice.
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/26006/bigger

pacejohntom

08-20-2009, 07:17 AM

I can't wait to get my hands on one of those Intrepid class ships! This video made me 10x more excited for this game!

DarianDrakon

08-20-2009, 08:01 AM

That... was... AMAZING!

I am ridiculously excited. Those space battles were clearly EPIC.

Obviously this is Alpha footage so I can't really complaion about anything. I just hope they flesh out the ground combat to be much less like standard MMO, where you just stand there, to a more ST oriented, strategic cover style.

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-20-2009, 08:05 AM

Yeah Im impressed the ship 2 ship fighting alone seems AWSM!!!!! To add the ground combat as well this game is lookin 2 b pretty KEWL.

Agreed,

Its certainly made us more impressed, theres so much more depth to the game , its going to please a lot of people.

Eve online is going to release station walking and in game station shops and rooms for all people, in a hope that having people walking and doing things will mean they loose less people to STO , but they fail to realise the love people have for STO will demand more than that to keep them.

I can't wait to get my hands on one of those Intrepid class ships! This video made me 10x more excited for this game!

Yes it looks pretty awesome,

The Hull comes in at the nacels like it can generate some kind of powerfull weapon there or powerfull shield strenghener or something, that bit on the ship has to be more than just looks,

I Love the Intrepid and i was so worried it would be made weak or something that in the shows she defiantly isnt, But im pleased to see she looks capable and stunning still :)

Cant wait :)

Cassidan

08-20-2009, 08:22 AM

For this being an Alpha build, they are on the right track. Alpha's will have graphical glitches and won't contain the polished look like detailed explosions or shield impact effects. Alpha's are more designed to make sure the core elements are in place and working as designed. I would rather they were working on the gameplay elements at this time then the little graphical touches they can iron out at the end. It's amazing how one little video can amp up the crowd again (which I hope Cryptic takes note of), we need more of these to keep the community going.

buzz12

08-20-2009, 08:25 AM

Omg combat looks awesome. did you see all the combat debris from all those ships in video. wow dang Giant space battle. omg you rock cryptic

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williams.blaine

08-20-2009, 08:37 AM

The Hull comes in at the nacels like it can generate some kind of powerfull weapon there or powerfull shield strenghener or something, that bit on the ship has to be more than just looks,

It probably is just looks, actually. I'm pretty sure they said that the ship customization is broken down into cosmetic changes (ie, the strange new lower fins on that Intrepid) and gameplay changes (upgraded phaser banks and whatnot). I think their idea is that they don't want people to have to compromise the appearance of their ship to install some new fangled system that gives them more pew pew power.

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-20-2009, 08:43 AM

Omg combat looks awesome. did you see all the combat debris from all those ships in video. wow dang Giant space battle. omg you rock cryptic

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Hehe

Yes its pretty awesome :)

let us ingame lol

Rivaris

08-20-2009, 09:20 AM

i liked the video tobad it was set at ultra speed to give every 1 a taste.

on the good side sto is set to launch next year if they dont push it back :)

Kriss

08-20-2009, 09:27 AM

I am sorry, though the game looks good that ground combat just f***ing SUCKS!!

Yes!! Let us all just stand there and take weapons fire even when standing next to object that you would IN THIS DAY OF PC GAMING AGE, you would expect they would use as cover!!!

I mean seriously Cryptic!! Could you get ANY DAMN LAZIER programming ground combat?? Hell, this combat looks like was programmed directly from EQ1! Thats how old and OBSOLETE it looks!

Hack and slash...hack and slash..mash the buttons!!! F1 F2 F3 F4, rise-repeat-repeat-repeat-repeat....

Fricking HORRIBLE!

robgomm

08-20-2009, 09:38 AM

I think it looks great. Are you guys sure the video was sped up? I hope so because space combat was a bit too fast for my liking, also didn't like how the ship movement was twitchy. Hopefully this is all down to the vid being sped up. Where did you guys get that from anyway that it had been sped up?

Anyway, graphics are brilliant.

StuM82

08-20-2009, 09:38 AM

Looks freakin' sweet to me. Three major things I loved:

1. Multiple shots from the same section of the phaser arrays - like the show
2. Not too much 'circling' which has been a big bore in just about every ST game.
3. Intrepid class!

Can't wait for the download version.

Hellsfire

08-20-2009, 09:53 AM

i will admit having watched it i now have a semi on

Sythian

08-20-2009, 09:54 AM

NOTE: This Gameplay Video was SPED UP. This is not the actual speed of the game, i'd expect it to be a bit slower.

Yeah, it's very noticeable on some of the ground combat shots as they are all moving as if on fast forward.

Great Vid, noticed ship name and registry visible on some of the hulls.

Avantos

08-20-2009, 09:55 AM

About fricken time we got a new video...

I do like what I see :D :D :cool: :cool:

Commander_Nate

08-20-2009, 10:02 AM

JPJappic

08-20-2009, 10:07 AM

I still don't understand the weapons being used in ground combat... i hope they are just placeholders. I think I saw one of those guns in Champions yesterday.

I think I have to agree with some of the other people. Ground Combat needs to be refined. I really enjoyed Star Trek DS9 The Fallen as a game that used ground based stuff pretty well from a third person view.

Environments are very nice.
Ships are very nice. Enjoyed seeing the Prometheus at about the 4:37 mark.
Ship explosions need to be fixed.

I think the big thing they need to work on is going to be ground combat. It doesn't look right.. I'm not sure if a Champions-like ground combat system is really the way to go for STO. I could be wrong though. Maybe I'll have to try it first in closed beta to see for myself.

HittingSmoke

08-20-2009, 10:15 AM

Omg combat looks awesome. did you see all the combat debris from all those ships in video. wow dang Giant space battle. omg you rock cryptic

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I was impressed by this at first, then when the Romulan War Bird blew up near the end with an explosion about 1/3 the size of the ship and just disappeared with no debris I felt let down after all that build up...

Vuk

08-20-2009, 10:18 AM

I think the big thing they need to work on is going to be ground combat. It doesn't look right.. I'm not sure if a Champions-like ground combat system is really the way to go for STO. I could be wrong though. Maybe I'll have to try it first in closed beta to see for myself.

I don't know that we've got much of a choice ?

VainEldritch

08-20-2009, 11:29 AM

Looks nice except:

1. No progressive damage appearing on ships as thye are shot up

2. All of the explosions are the same... and look silly on larger ships

128hoodmario

08-20-2009, 11:46 AM

OK I don't know if it has been said yet but look very closely at 3:55. You can make out on that Galaxy Class "NCC 1701". OMG they remade the Galaxy Enterprise or is it something to do with time travel or maybe a parrallel universe. The mirror universe. Or maybe it is just a placeholder :(

EDIT: Just looked further in the video. It clearly says Enterprise D! *pees self a little in excitment*

MajorD

08-20-2009, 11:53 AM

NOTE: This Gameplay Video was SPED UP. This is not the actual speed of the game, i'd expect it to be a bit slower.
It wasn't sped up, the camera is just fast and they were showing the tail end of fights.

For all those people complaining that the video is too combat centric... care to tell me how you make a video for a video game that makes diplomacy look fun? Or makes science look fun?
Easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f0Lp-3EhCE&feature=related
Did anyone notice that there weren't any shield impacts on any of the ships during the space battles?

I noticed two shields at 1:22 and 3:48, but they were blue. Either they have different shield configurations, or they're not in for everything, or the battles really were toward the ends.

I've certainly been critical of the maneuver model...Im still critical of it but I have to admit, they pulled off the lack of full maneuvering better than I thought they would. I still hold that the lack of full maneuvering limits tactical options and I believe it'll still be an issue later. In the mean time, the current model does display well.

My new gripe is regarding the fluidity of maneuvers and explosions when a ship is destroyed. The ships seems to be jerky at times, there is no sense of mass/inertia. The tall ship concept seemed more like jet skis battling it out. Some of the maneuvers appeared to lack grace and fluidity.

The problem I notice is the turning has instant acceleration, so changing turning velocity is instant. This makes for jerky turning inconsistent with the very slow maximum speeds. If they made changing turning velocity take a second and a half, then it would help smooth maneuvering and allow faster maximum turn rates in order to make up for the lower acceleration.

The destruction of the D'Deridex as dissapointing and and anti-climatic. The vessel blinks out, the small explosion replaces it...way out of scale. No distinguishable parts from the vessel...is there even a dead, burned out hulk option for a defeated ship? Or is it going to be the same played out "big kablooie" style deaths? Can we please get something more sophisticated?
The explosion was definitely wet firecracker worthy. They said all ships will violently explode on death, so there won't be any dead hulks floating around, unfortunately.

Azurian

08-20-2009, 11:54 AM

Yeah, I chuckled at that when people pointed out that it was the Enterprise-D. :p

I really enjoyed the video. I wish Cryptic put it out months ago, when we were going crazy that space combat wasn't going to be in 3-D. We were all imagining it being like SFC, instead it's looking more like Legacy (but in a good way).

Even though people claim the video was sped up, I really didn't get that impression with the Space Combat scenes. It looked to be about the same pace we saw in the TV show (like the Fleet combat during the Dominion War on DS9). Though people were spot on that the jerkiness needs some smoothing out, and add some inertia effects.

Though the one thing that really bothered me was that they were adding the Scimtar's Thalaron attack, it looked very silly for the wings to pop out so fast. I personally wish they kept it out, so the Scimitar would have some distinctiveness.

I really hope the devs will release the video here on the website, so we can watch it properly. ;)

blujester

08-20-2009, 11:58 AM

Hmmm...... some thoughts on ground combat as we see it here.

First, like any other MMORPG we can assume that you will be rooted during attacks. Sad but it's a reality in most games because of the animation and sync problems inherent in the genre.

Second, the non use of cover every one is complaining about is also in the nature of the genre. You can't fire at a target without line of site so you will expose yourself when you attack. Ducking behind a door or rock will only serve to force your target to close or manuver for a clear site line. This doesn't mean you can't use the tactic and if traps are in the game as has been said, breaking site line to force an aproach or a lateral move from your target will be useful.

Third, we don't see any tactics here at all, but that does not mean they are useless. It means when you have 3 min to get someone excited about a game you don't waste 2 of them showing an officer leading someone into a trap or crossfire situation.

And lastly, I know the Cryptic engine can script for toon reaction to fire or melee strikes (again, this will root you for a sec so how much is cool and how much is annoying is something to concider) so I'm confident it will be in there. I would also assume that dodge and roll abilities will be in there to as a skill/spell type action as this is the only way to really do it in a turn based/dice roll game, which, like it or not, this is. We didn't see any turrets or traps but we know they will be in there. We saw some martial arts but I'd wager there's a whole lot more than one leg sweep or one Bat'leh attack.

In short, what we've seen is tip of the iceburg only at this point so please remain calm and return your treys to an uprite position.

Bj

SelorKiith

08-20-2009, 11:59 AM

Easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f0Lp-3EhCE&feature=related

Yeah... a trailer... but no Fun... no Excitement... nothing... very good... these kind of trailers are made for people that will buy the game no matter what happens... and not to gain crowds... and this STO Trailer here was for foreign press (I believe) and not for the people here that will buy it regardless of what the press says...

Varrangian

08-20-2009, 12:03 PM

Yeah... a trailer... but no Fun... no Excitement... nothing... very good... these kind of trailers are made for people that will buy the game no matter what happens... and not to gain crowds... and this STO Trailer here was for foreign press (I believe) and not for the people here that will buy it regardless of what the press says...

Also keep in mind ME2 is now a known "quantity". Most people who are considering buying ME2 have either played ME or are very familiar with ME and how it played. They don't have to sell people on their "core" game as much since it is a squeal.

trebort5050

08-20-2009, 02:07 PM

Did you see how the characters moved?...

They did not look right to me.

thefrayl

08-20-2009, 02:21 PM

Wow. This is the first I heard of that video, thanks for posting. :D

The game is looking fantastic, as it should. It'd be really nice if a certain studio would release a direct feed of this footage, maybe in HD? :p

Fleming86

08-20-2009, 03:01 PM

Remember this is pre beta footage, the explosions may be more tailored to the specific ship size later on before release.

H8Hydrant

08-20-2009, 03:21 PM

Ground combat definitely reminded me of KOTOR combat (not the mmo). Maybe it's just me

Angelphoenix12

08-20-2009, 04:06 PM

i like the new vid :), too bad it wasnt taken in front of the screen. i thought the space part was very cool. you can almost tell that the galaxy class is huge.

Moski7o

08-20-2009, 04:24 PM

good:cool:

spacecarver

08-20-2009, 04:28 PM

Yes, Yes, that was awesome. Ground combat was a LOT like KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC. Also, did you notice the time gate from TOS? Sweeeett

spacecarver

08-20-2009, 04:30 PM

and Why the heck wasn't that video posted on this website? I mean c'mon this is the game's website, and all we do is sit here complaining about the lack of stuff coming from cryptic. I mean, if they're going to show it anyway at a convention go ahead and throw us a bone!

GozerTC

08-20-2009, 04:48 PM

I await them uploading this video to the site some time next week when they get back from the convention. I want to see this in greater detail and I'm sure we'll all tear it up looking for juicy details.

Like others I also enjoy the fact that it's 3D space combat (I.e. UP and DOWN too) I also hope that it's true (which I believe it is) that the gameplay in space is sped up for this video. Makes sense from a "Wow em" video perspective. :)

Ground combat I'm also with others hoping it's not so SWG. Stand there and shoot at one another basically. Or in my Klingon's case stab them. :)

Good to see NPC Gorns, Cardasians, and Romulans. Though I'm still not seeing my Nebula class. :\ Anyone seen the Titan in there somewhere? Just looking for my favorite ship types. :D

Nasedo

08-20-2009, 06:22 PM

Hehe

Yes its pretty awesome :)

let us ingame lol

when i saw that Galaxy class pop up kicking butt, i almost fell off my chair:P

MajorD

08-20-2009, 06:43 PM

Yeah... a trailer... but no Fun... no Excitement... nothing... very good... these kind of trailers are made for people that will buy the game no matter what happens... and not to gain crowds... and this STO Trailer here was for foreign press (I believe) and not for the people here that will buy it regardless of what the press says...

Are you kidding, kicking the guy through the window was a conversation option, not a prescripted event.

JMD10222

08-20-2009, 06:59 PM

Very impressive;) And to think the game is still in Alpha :eek:

billybob442

08-20-2009, 07:37 PM

Hmmm...... some thoughts on ground combat as we see it here.

First, like any other MMORPG we can assume that you will be rooted during attacks. Sad but it's a reality in most games because of the animation and sync problems inherent in the genre.

Actually in the last dev chat they said there'd be no accuracy penalty for moving while firing. So apparently you don't have to be rooted to attack. Which makes me wonder why the toons in the demo film were so static. I can only assume that while the engine can handle it the AI doesn't think to do it for some reason.

Second, the non use of cover every one is complaining about is also in the nature of the genre. You can't fire at a target without line of site so you will expose yourself when you attack. Ducking behind a door or rock will only serve to force your target to close or maneuver for a clear site line. This doesn't mean you can't use the tactic and if traps are in the game as has been said, breaking site line to force an aproach or a lateral move from your target will be useful.

Originally Crypitc was talking about how ground battles were going to be dangerous, fast paced "shoot & scoot" affairs. That's exactly what you'd get in that situation. Anyone who stayed holed up under a piece of cover too long would find themselves getting flanked. Of course you'd want to keep the guy pinned down so he doesn't reposition himself while your buddies were flanking him. Naturally he'll do the same to you and that's going to (hopefully) result in combat that uses small unit tactics.

Third, we don't see any tactics here at all, but that does not mean they are useless. It means when you have 3 min to get someone excited about a game you don't waste 2 of them showing an officer leading someone into a trap or crossfire situation.

Good point there.

In any event I realize that the game is still in alpha but it's obvious that they've spent a far greater amount of time on ship combat than ground combat. I'm just trying to spotlight the disparity in hopes of getting forum input on what needs to be done to fix it.

WikiUltimate

08-20-2009, 07:59 PM

2 thoughts:

1) awsome if not the best quality... game looks good for late alpha/pre-cloased-beta

2) dissapointed that crypic did not release this themselves.

Nasedo

08-20-2009, 08:22 PM

2 thoughts:

1) awsome if not the best quality... game looks good for late alpha/pre-cloased-beta

2) dissapointed that crypic did not release this themselves.

isnt this how the good is now??

why do you think its alpha/pre-closed-beta?

WikiUltimate

08-20-2009, 08:29 PM

isnt this how the good is now??

why do you think its alpha/pre-closed-beta?

well, since to our knowledge closed beta has not started, that makes it pre-cloaded beta... Elementary my dear Data :p

Loekii

08-20-2009, 08:50 PM

2 thoughts:

1) awsome if not the best quality... game looks good for late alpha/pre-cloased-beta

2) dissapointed that crypic did not release this themselves.

I think they did not 'release this themselves', as it probably is part of some publicity agreements, etc. They want to let the other sites publicize it first for a while, so they can get the attention and web hits, etc.

They will probably post the video later one, on the website, after the initial publicity wares off. Just my guess.

evan.is.weyoun

08-20-2009, 10:41 PM

The fact that this game isn't even in beta yet is great. As I watched the video, I tried to see what it would've looked like slowed down and it would've been a lot better. The ships are slower, don't shoot as often, and aren't as jerky so it will be a tactical non-dogfight and the screen won't spam your eyes and ears with constant phaser fire.

Also, the ground combat would've looked better too slowed down, but it's still the roughest of all. That's only because they focused on space first, ground second, so it's not quite as polished yet. I'm 100% confident that this game will buff out the minor shortcomings we see in the video to become the game I've been waiting basically my whole life for.

WikiUltimate

08-20-2009, 10:43 PM

loyaltrekie

08-20-2009, 10:55 PM

I think they did not 'release this themselves', as it probably is part of some publicity agreements, etc. They want to let the other sites publicize it first for a while, so they can get the attention and web hits, etc.

They will probably post the video later one, on the website, after the initial publicity wares off. Just my guess.

Considering the fact its not on any other sites, I would disagree. It isn't like a screen shot they gave IGN or something. Its a cam recording of a tv screen during an interview. I highly doubt there are any media ties, especially since its not a staged recording, its a guy with a handled and an awful view.

Azurian

08-20-2009, 11:27 PM

Guys, after discussing it in another thread, I'm convinced that the ship at the top around 2:35 is not an Excalibur, but a Modified Excelsior-class.

First off, the impulse engines appear to be that of the Excelsior.

Second, around 2:39 when it levels even with the camera, you see that there is no neck. And on top of it, the secondary hull has an extended "duck-tail", which is characteristic of the Excelsior.

The only thing throwing us off is the angled pylons that are similar to the Refit Consitution.

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-21-2009, 12:55 AM

when i saw that Galaxy class pop up kicking butt, i almost fell off my chair:P

Haha,

Yes if you pass it as its flying under the camera view, you can see its the Enterprise D, So im thinking that there are missions involving helping out our favourite ships, i hardly think we will gret to pilot the iconic series ships our self's .. unless its some kind of prize or tempary acheivement thing ..

loyaltrekie

08-21-2009, 12:58 AM

Remember this is pre beta footage, the explosions may be more tailored to the specific ship size later on before release.

Remember this is pret beta footage, the explosions may be the same exact way later on before release, and even after shipping!

ITT: Thinking saying its pre beta footage makes you not look like a tool and statements of obvious nature.

xavioremu

08-21-2009, 01:51 AM

Video looks good, however it seemed like most of the ship explosions weren't big enough to match size of the ships. I dunno..maybe just me but id expect larger explosions. I mean, there can be not enough, and there can be too much. I think just a bit more would be nice, but its not yet released, lol.

Otherwise, looks nice ^^

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-21-2009, 02:06 AM

Haha

Im loving reading everyones, hopes, fears, feelings, etc.

Im sure well have something pretty kick ass in game.

I keep watching the part where the Intrepid is shooting those ships disguised like asteroids, its pretty cool as you get a good look at the Intrepid configurations 2 Deflecter arrays, as she pivets and turns to bring her weapons to bare on the vessel.

I also like how the Romulan outpost tractors on to the Enterprise D Galaxy and then the Galaxy has to fire at her Tractor emitters to get free. Thats also pretty cool.

If i was to critise anything though, id say, we can see the Olympic class which is a Medical starship built for healing fleets crewes in times of severe damage and injury. But The medical ship seems to be firing and manouvering as fast and as good as all the rest.

I know any vessel must be able to protect it self, but i cant imagine a sheer medical starship keeping up with other tactical ships as she seems to do. I can imagine the disgrace of a klingon being killed by a meer medical transport lol. He may have to leave Klingon space all together lol.

Though it may be good news for those of you wanting to pilot a medical ship. So i geuss everyone has something to be pleased about.

Admiral-Darren-Wright

08-21-2009, 02:11 AM

Does anyone know what kind of ship that Intrepid is fighting 1 on 1? It looks like a Gorn or Orion type of design to me. Any speculation?

Could be a nice example of how PvE encounters might play out.

I think its just some kind of Asteroid field Raider vessel. There built by the looks of it to hide out in Asteroid fields, Coming out to sieze or destroy passing cargo ships or transport vessels/miners.

In mmos theres also a kind of pirate race and i think from what i can see these seem to be it.

I dont think there any main race or faction but just something were gonna need to clear regularly for the transports etc to get through areas. Like NPC asteroid dwellars maybe,

It keeps us busy even when theres no direct enemey to deal with.

It bet that the improved sensors on ships such as what the Intrepid configuration will undoubtably have, would make her ideal for these kind of runs, where she can detect and obliterate these kind of scum. lol

overlordthor

08-21-2009, 02:24 AM

Haha,

Yes if you pass it as its flying under the camera view, you can see its the Enterprise D, So im thinking that there are missions involving helping out our favourite ships, i hardly think we will gret to pilot the iconic series ships our self's .. unless its some kind of prize or tempary acheivement thing ..

I think that whole battle we witnessed is from that kind of gateway situation where they are facing ships from many periods, including the Enterprise D, and the Scimitar, among other things, when these ships find themselves in the fight they side with those of their side, your job is to sort of fix the situation, and make sure its all returned to normal somehow.

Its not that I doubt another reman Warbird would be built, I just dont think another one built will house the thelaron weapon, that system would be replaced with something more standard.