Our 1st star ship

[pixdix]

I created this thread, because I wanted to know, what star ship vessel you'd prefer to begin with.

I really think, it should be the "Saber"-Class. It looks good for newbies and looks perfect to start with exploration, combat & mining (?).


What would you prefer?

[Tamgros]

we already know which starting ship the SF players will have, and it looks like this:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/07/Star_Trek_Online-PCScreenshots25117sto_121508_01.jpg

[knightofhyrule730]

Miranda/Centaur-like class

already been said by the devs.

[THORN74]

we already know which starting ship the SF players will have, and it looks like this:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2009/07/Star_Trek_Online-PCScreenshots25117sto_121508_01.jpg

actually many of us think THIS (http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/63267?size=_original) will be the starfleet starter ship. it was released for the NY comic con but it has no name yet.

it fits the description ZINK gave .... a MIRANDA CONFIGURATION not a mirand class.

[DarianDrakon]

The OP probably knows what we are actually starting with, but the question was which ship we would prefer to start with. I'd like the New Orleans class myself.

[LebowskyBob]

I would prefer to start with an Excelsior class, the original NCC-2000 version not the E-B or Lakota variants (although those are both really cool)

[cipher_nemo]

I think we should start with the Nova class. It's a good place to begin in order to get a wide range of better ship classes from there out. And it has everything needed to play STOfrom my point of view, including warp 8 capable speed, impulse drive, a waverider shuttle (docked exterior), science equipment, 11 phaser arrays, and 2 photon torpedo launchers.

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/scans/stmagazine/equinox.jpg

The Nova-class was originally designed as a science and scout vessel used for short-term planetary research and analysis. They were not typically suitable for combat operations.

This class had a small crew complement of about eighty.

The Nova-class had a design similar to that of an Intrepid-class starship, though half the size. It consisted of a saucer section with a curved triangular shape. The secondary hull was directly attached to the underside of the saucer with two warp nacelles.

Unlike some starship designs, the Nova-class only featured one impulse drive, located at the aft end of deck 2 aligned center to the ship.

Though Novas were science vessels, they had a wide assortment of weaponry, allowing the vessel to handle many threats on its own. It was equipped with eleven strategically-placed phaser arrays: eight on the saucer and three on the secondary hull, two forward-facing photon torpedo launchers at the bow of the saucer opposite of the secondary deflector, and one aft-facing launcher.

It is a perfect starting ship...

Capable of handling anything, but not very powerful in comaprison
Looks like a traditional federation craft, down to the saucer and two warp nacells.
Decent crew size, but not too large
Is near the bottom of the ship curve to provide a good starting point for upgrading to new ships.

[Jarek301]

I'm thinking we'll start with whatever the DEVs say we start with. Frankly, there's nothing to me that says Star Trek quite like a Constitution or Miranda class. I'm perfectly fine starting in a Miranda.

[WinterPark1701]

actually many of us think THIS (http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/63267?size=_original) will be the starfleet starter ship. it was released for the NY comic con but it has no name yet.

it fits the description ZINK gave .... a MIRANDA CONFIGURATION not a mirand class.

I know and I'll be trading out of it as soon as I can, trade up to a Vigilant or Excalibur class. That is one ugly ship they're starting us with.

[Varrangian]

actually many of us think THIS (http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/63267?size=_original) will be the starfleet starter ship. it was released for the NY comic con but it has no name yet.

it fits the description ZINK gave .... a MIRANDA CONFIGURATION not a mirand class.

I know and I'll be trading out of it as soon as I can, trade up to a Vigilant or Excalibur class. That is one ugly ship they're starting us with.

According to all the interviews I've read we will be able to customize our ship even from character creation, so I'm not sure it will have to be as ugly as that one. ;)

[Deyvid]

I would prefer to start in the Bird of Prey scout ship, before moving on to the larger Bird of Prey cruiser, and then from there a K'Tinga, then Vor'cha, then Negh'Var, then Vo'Quv, etc.

[cipher_nemo]

I'm thinking we'll start with whatever the DEVs say we start with. Frankly, there's nothing to me that says Star Trek quite like a Constitution or Miranda class. I'm perfectly fine starting in a Miranda.

It seems the Miranda class is what the devs have in mind, but I really hope we start with even less. I want a good upgrade range of ships to go through. The Miranda is near the bottom, but in my opinion, it's too good for a starting ship.

If it were up to me, I'd force all new players into shuttlecraft during the tutorial and make them earn the privilege of actually commanding a low-end star ship after the tutorial like the nova or saber class.

[Zepath]

I'm hard core ... I'd rather start as an Ensign in a shuttle

Ensign: Shuttle, doing fed-ex and taxi missions, graduate to freighters, then patrol ships.

At Lieutenant JG, you get your first command, and your first BO position.
If you chose Science - you get the smallest science vessal and do Science Missions
If you chose Engineering - you get the smallest ship tender (run around fixing and resupplying)
If you chose Tactical - you get the smallest escort and run around doing patrols and investigations.

At Lieutenant you get your first Captain's chair, 3 BO's and your Miranda/Centaur class. And grow from there.

AT Lt Cmdr you get access to the next level of ship, 6 BO's.

At Cmdr you get access to the next ship level and 9 BO's.

At Captain you get access to the next ship and 12 BO's.

But I also would like to see 10 game levels per rank ... with BO's and skills earned within those ranks. So an Esign could be level 1, or a level 10. A Lieutenant JG could be level 11, or level 20.

The first real expansion would implement the Commodore rank (between Capatin and Admiral), the second expansion will be the Admiral rank.

Yeah, I'm pretty hard-core. I don't need to start a game as God. And I figure I'll be on to the next game by the time the second expansion is played out, since the success of STO should make game developers seriously start looking at this theme for their MMOs, and I'm hoping someone will hit the middle ground between dumbed down and Eve.

[Deyvid]

They have said that (after the tutorial) Federation players would start in the Light Cruiser configuration, which can be made to look like the Miranda, or the Centaur, or mix-and-matching parts to be something unique while still staying within the Light Cruiser configuration (saucer with two nacelles connected to the underside of the saucer).

Klingon players are still waiting for more information about our starting ship. :mad:

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

actually many of us think THIS (http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/63267?size=_original) will be the starfleet starter ship. it was released for the NY comic con but it has no name yet.

it fits the description ZINK gave .... a MIRANDA CONFIGURATION not a mirand class.

Yes this is the ship we will start with (for federation players), it has been confirmed :)

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/63267?size=_original

We will gain access to it after 1.5 hours in Starfleet academy doing a kind of tutorial and class choosing.

i.e. science, tactical, Engineering :)

[Tamgros]

actually many of us think THIS (http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/63267?size=_original) will be the starfleet starter ship. it was released for the NY comic con but it has no name yet.

it fits the description ZINK gave .... a MIRANDA CONFIGURATION not a mirand class.
I've seen the ship you linked many times, but it wasn't the vessel I saw when zinc said, "this is the starting ship" at the LV ST con :p That ship looked like the one I linked.

Now, I suppose it is possible we are talking about the same ship, they are just customized differently. They look similar enough... I guess we'll have to wait and see :)

[THORN74]

WELL IF WE ARE TALKING PREFERANCE HERE ..... then i would "prefer" to have 3 starter ships. one for each of the career paths. science a nova class, tactical might be a steamrunner, and crusier would be a saber or norway class.

but i am pretty sure we will have a tier zero starter generic career ship.

[cipher_nemo]

I'd love to earn my way up to a Sovereign class. Oh, that would be sweet. Heck, let's refit it for all quantum torpedoes instead of just one and the rest photon torpedoes. ;)

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I've seen the ship you linked many times, but it wasn't the vessel I saw when zinc said, "this is the starting ship" at the LV ST con :p That ship looked like the one I linked.

Now, I suppose it is possible we are talking about the same ship, they are just customized differently. They look similar enough... I guess we'll have to wait and see :)

mmmm nice

Well your one looks a little more advanced than the one weve all been expecting ..

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I'd love to earn my way up to a Sovereign class. Oh, that would be sweet. Heck, let's refit it for all quantum torpedoes instead of just one and the rest photon torpedoes. ;)

Did you read my mind .. i didnt know cardassaians were telepaths lol

[Azurian]

I do like having to start off with the Miranda and the Centaur, but given that there are well over 30 basic hulls that players get to captain, it seems that it would be a nice idea to include the Nova and the Sabre.

Hopefully Cryptic has this in mind but as Teir 2, where the Nova is your first Science Vessel, the Sabre being the first Escort Vessel, with the Consitution / Excalibur being the first Cruiser.


But I really feel sorry for the Klingon players and the players of the races to come, they obviously don't get the luxury of having such a wide variety to choose from. :(

[Tamgros]

But I really feel sorry for the Klingon players and the players of the races to come, they obviously don't get the luxury of having such a wide variety to choose from. :(

Not true, it's been said that Klingon players have more freedom of which race's ships to use. So we may be seeing Orion, Naussican, Gorn, and perhaps other race's ships flying under the Klingon Empire....:eek:

[lsirois7883]

I have seen it said that there are going to be tiers of ships. Is the starting ship in tier 1 or is it like tier 0 and we step up to tier 1 with the next upgrade in ship. And I wonder which tier the Akira class is in that’s the only ship I want.

[DanSeale]

I'm thinking we'll start with whatever the DEVs say we start with. Frankly, there's nothing to me that says Star Trek quite like a Constitution or Miranda class. I'm perfectly fine starting in a Miranda.

Yes ... I agree.

Unfortunately the Miranda "configuration" that they are offering leaves something to be desired if a player is expecting to use a ship like that for mid or end game purposes. Don't get me wrong .. I LOVE the Miranda there just needs to be a version that is up-dated.

I am still hanging on to hope for something like the Seawolf Class for the "later" version of the ship that would also reflect a much higher "tier" capability.

[DanSeale]

I do like having to start off with the Miranda and the Centaur, but given that there are well over 30 basic hulls that players get to captain, it seems that it would be a nice idea to include the Nova and the Sabre.

Hopefully Cryptic has this in mind but as Teir 2, where the Nova is your first Science Vessel, the Sabre being the first Escort Vessel, with the Consitution / Excalibur being the first Cruiser.


But I really feel sorry for the Klingon players and the players of the races to come, they obviously don't get the luxury of having such a wide variety to choose from. :(

oh .. I dunno ... there is a lot that has not been reveled about the Klingons as yet.

[pixdix]

http://http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/63267?size=_original

Hmmm...

I would wonder, what kind of name you would give...

Here some ideas for class names:

1. Columbia
2. Belua (lat. = Animal-Class) ...:p
3. Draconigena (lat. = Born from dragons)

[THORN74]

http://http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/63267?size=_original

Hmmm...

I would wonder, what kind of name you would give...

Here some ideas for class names:

1. Columbia
2. Belua (lat. = Animal-Class) ...:p
3. Draconigena (lat. = Born from dragons)

ur link doesnt work ..... u have http:// twice

[cipher_nemo]

Did you read my mind .. i didnt know cardassaians were telepaths lol

:) Great minds think alike.

[Azurian]

I have seen it said that there are going to be tiers of ships. Is the starting ship in tier 1 or is it like tier 0 and we step up to tier 1 with the next upgrade in ship. And I wonder which tier the Akira class is in that’s the only ship I want.

We start off in Teir 1 and I believe they said it goes up to Tier 4, possibily 5 with the Admiral Rank.

Akira is believed to be Teir 2 or 3.

oh .. I dunno ... there is a lot that has not been reveled about the Klingons as yet.

Yeah, I know. Be nice if Cryptic started telling us more about them. It's like Klingons are more like an after-thought.

Not true, it's been said that Klingon players have more freedom of which race's ships to use. So we may be seeing Orion, Naussican, Gorn, and perhaps other race's ships flying under the Klingon Empire....:eek:

Still, people will expect more of a variety of Klingon Warships when flying under the flag of the Empire, not the races of subservant races.

And right now, the Klingons have up to 10 designs, while the Federation literally has over 40 ships to choose from.

[cipher_nemo]

ur link doesnt work ..... u have http:// twice

Yup, he messed it up from the looks of it.

Correct one is: http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/63267?size=_original

But it's just an image already viewed a million times here.

[DanSeale]

We start off in Teir 1 and I believe they said it goes up to Tier 4, possibily 5 with the Admiral Rank.

Akira is believed to be Teir 2 or 3.



Yeah, I know. Be nice if Cryptic started telling us more about them. It's like Klingons are more like an after-thought.



Still, people will expect more of a variety of Klingon Warships when flying under the flag of the Empire, not the races of subservant races.

And right now, the Klingons have up to 10 designs, while the Federation literally has over 40 ships to choose from.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Cryptic is saving the good stuff for last.

hmmm

Maybe that's why we have not seen a screene of a Seawolf class yet !

(You didn't think I'd really pass up that opportunity did ya ?)

:D

[cipher_nemo]

And right now, the Klingons have up to 10 designs, while the Federation literally has over 40 ships to choose from.

There's nothing stopping Cryptic from making more Klingon ship designs. Or they could use tweaks to existing designs to look different and serve a slot in the ship upgrade progression.

Either way, remember that STO's timeline is in the future, beyond the Trek we've watched so far. Anything is possible.

[Azurian]

I have a sneaking suspicion that Cryptic is saving the good stuff for last.

hmmm

Maybe that's why we have not seen a screene of a Seawolf class yet !

(You didn't think I'd really pass up that opportunity did ya ?)

:D

Well if Cryptic added our designs, then the poor Klingon players would feel left out. ;)


There's nothing stopping Cryptic from making more Klingon ship designs. Or they could use tweaks to existing designs to look different and serve a slot in the ship upgrade progression.

Either way, remember that STO's timeline is in the future, beyond the Trek we've watched so far. Anything is possible.

Yes, I know Cryptic can come up with new designs. They will have to. But given their record so far with creating new designs, pardon me in not being very enthusiastic.

(I.E. Cryptic's Artists have no imagination. :p)

[cipher_nemo]

Yes, I know Cryptic can come up with new designs. They will have to. But given their record so far with creating new designs, pardon me in not being very enthusiastic.

(I.E. Cryptic's Artists have no imagination. :p)

Oh, I think they will do just fine. :p After all, there's not going to leave Klingons in a state of destitute:

http://web.spotcoolstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/klingon-dictionary.jpg

[DanSeale]

Well if Cryptic added our designs, then the poor Klingon players would feel left out. ;)




Yes, I know Cryptic can come up with new designs. They will have to. But given their record so far with creating new designs, pardon me in not being very enthusiastic.

(I.E. Cryptic's Artists have no imagination. :p)

hmmm

Well .. I kinda be to differ with ya a little. I have posted like 3 Klingon concpets (Including a advanced cruiser that had the science vessel attachments on board) ....

If anyone would like me to review that Klingon design I can ..

Aside from that .. I'll gon out on a limb and have a little faith and see what their artists can come up with. Who knows .. maybe some of my stuff can be helpful.

A professor friend of mine years ago told me something that has stuck with me for years.

"If you aim at nothing, you WILL hit it every time!"

Soooo I guess that is why I "suggest" stuff all the time when it comes to ship designs. I now have Orbrith refits, a new Fed BB ... 3 versions of the Seawolf (working on a 4th) .. an "alien" science vessel, a couple of Klingons ships, 2 space stations, my own version of a new Fed exploration class (nothing like the NX-91001).

Brainstorming is without question the one thing that can be a very positive tool when used properly.

Still all in all .. Cryptic is doing a good job over all .. just needs a little help with a couple of ships .. that's all.

[LegateSovereign]

I personnaly thin that we should start with Sabre, Norway, Nova, Centaur or Miranda class starships. They're all small scouts, frigates and destroyers, but are still very capable of getting their jobs done ;)

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I have a sneaking suspicion that Cryptic is saving the good stuff for last.

hmmm

Maybe that's why we have not seen a screene of a Seawolf class yet !

(You didn't think I'd really pass up that opportunity did ya ?)

:D

I agree with you in part, But then wouldnt the Qu'vor be left to last also.

We know that the Federations main flagship is not been shown and the Klingons have a lot yet to be revealed. But if they were saving all the best till last i doubt wed have the Qu'vor details or the NX .....

Just my thoughts

[DanSeale]

I agree with you in part, But then wouldnt the Qu'vor be left to last also.

We know that the Federations main flagship is not been shown and the Klingons have a lot yet to be revealed. But if they were saving all the best till last i doubt wed have the Qu'vor details or the NX .....

Just my thoughts

ahhh yessss .. the speculation begins!

:D

heheheh

nothing like trying to see what's next from Cryptic. (BTW.. that is ment in the better sense of the word .. nothing negative implied)....

Who knows whats on the horizon... IMHO .. it should be very interesting !