Kobayashi Maru Vol. 24

[jblancato]

This scenario is brought to you by Sarreous. Good luck!

You are an engineer aboard a ship that has survived an intense battle. Comms are offline, and there are power fluctuations across the grid.

You are in a section of the ship that has lost power. While trying to find your way out, you find a foreign device. You soon recognize it as being a high powered explosive, and further examination shows that there is not much time left before it detonates.

This bomb is highly complex, and you know that you may not have enough time to disarm it. There is also the possibility of there being more of these explosives. With the continuing power fluctuations, the internal sensors may not have detected them yet. You have no way of contacting anyone from your location. You can try to get out of the area and get the word out, but due to all of the obstacles such as closed doors that need to be forced open and rubble everywhere, the chances of getting to anyone in time are slim to none.

The bomb is designed to detonate if it's moved.

In the opposite direction is an escape pod. You can get to it and escape the explosion if you immediately launch after getting in. There would be no time to send a message. Your only hope then would be is that there is only one bomb, and the ship's damaged structural integrity is strong enough to take it. If there are more, there is no hope for survivors.

Do you try to disarm the bomb, try to warn the crew although there probably won't be enough time to escape or do you save yourself and hope for the best?

[nivagnosaj]

You try to disarm it. If there is not enough time to warn the crew, there wouldn't be enough time for them to all evacuate anyway, even assuming you could warn them all. And abandoning the ship and crew is just not an option for a starfleet officer. If the bomb goes off, at least you died doing your duty!

[dif-tor]

Get to a transporter room with power and begin the transporter, but quickly store it in the transporter buffers. Beam it onto the first suspicious ship that you come across.

[Swordopolis]

Get to a transporter room with power and begin the transporter, but quickly store it in the transporter buffers. Beam it onto the first suspicious ship that you come across.

If it's "highly complex", then it may have safeguards to prevent such a thing from being tried, as with the bomb on Odo and Quark's shuttlecraft in "The Ascent".

[USSREVENGE]

You disarm the bomb of course. if you fail well then it wont matter if your successful then head to the nearest science lab with the disarmed bomb and scan for more.
after saving the ship and your freinds you make them buy you drinks under the pretence that they owe you 1. evrybody lives happily ever after and you get free drinks. WOOP!!:D

[kylejac_05]

If you can't fool it and somehow get it into the escape pod to blast away, then try to contain the blast as much as possible with surrounding rubble, set up a dampening field with a portable generator if possible. When you've done all you can, get as far away as possible.

[DarkOrion69]

I would warn any crewman within earshot by shouting 'RUN THERE IS A BOMB'. Then I would grab nearby debris and slide it under the device (putting it on a platform of sorts) and escape with it in one of the pods. Hopefully the motion sensor detonates only if it is moved from 'it's surface' to prevent premature explosion when it is being set by saboteurs. Once safely away from the ship, I would attempt to disarm the device while risking only my own life.

[Swordopolis]

Open the nearest airlock or access hatch to allow more of the explosive force to harmlessly vent into space, THEN commandeer the escape pod (assuming that there is no way for you personally to escape the blast radius of the bomb otherwise).

[cipher_nemo]

First I would grab my nearby holo camera and snap a holo photo of the explosive. Then I pull out my emergency beacon and activate it. This would be the beacon that I stole from Daniels, a 31st century Federation operative from the Temporal Cold War. It will pull me back 3 days in time from the instant I activate it. ;) I would then obviously warn the bridge crew of this pending future event, recommending that we set up a temporary scanner and transporter system near my previous position, with its own, isolated power supply and forcefield (to prevent damage during the attack). Upon the day of that attack, I will drop the forcefield, search for any and all explosives on board, then beam all of them either into space or into any hostile vessels nearby. It's soooo simple. ;) lol, j/k

[FerrariF40LM]

What kind of engineer am i?!?!!!

Guess what im now EOD AKA Engineer which means im qualified to disarm mines, boobytraps, and bombs. I will attempt to disarm the bomb and will succeed because im an expert. GG i saved the day.

[Spanish_Broomaker]

I would try finding unorthodox solutions to the problem like transporting the bomb and keeping it in the buffer, or try to do what I can, I would keep in mind the time I have left. In the case I do not solve the problem and I run out of time I ask God for forgiveness and I escape in the escape pod.

[Veglargh]

Hope for the best? lol, j/k, disarm to die with honor !!!!

[Rick_V]

try to disarm the bomb if there is any chance I can move it or acces a pannel and acces transporters control and store it in the buffer that would work. Other wise I would try and find some sort of dampening generator or rig one to fool the bomb and contain the explosion. If however there is some sort of airlock near by I would open the hatch and let it vent into space making sure I find something strong enough to hold me from going into open space.

By opening the airlock a sign would maybe go to the brige that an airlock was open and they would try to find out why or what cause it to open I would hope. That would get their attention and I could warn them if there are any other bomb onbard

[dahakahacker2000]

The only thing to do in this situation is to try an disarm or remove it. All three choices have a high possibility of failure.

1) If you try to disarm it and fail, or there is more than one bomb, you/everyone dies.
2) If you try to warn others of the bomb, it will detonate before anything can be done about it and, once again, if there's more than one bomb everyone dies.
3) If you try to save yourself and take the escape pod (if it even works), your timing would have to be perfect or you would get caught in the blast before you could get to safety. Also, if there is more than one bomb, they'll trigger a warp core breach and the blast will kill you seeing as to how an escape pod doesn't have warp capability.

[Rota]

I may not be able to disarm it. but maybe I can stop the trigger to "blow up if moved".

So it's active but at least I can move it. I put it in the escape pod and set the beacon on the pod to transmit "bombs on the ship" repeatedly. Hopefully someone on the ship will receive the broadcast before the pod explodes. I then get to the nearest engineering terminal and try to get internal sensors to find more bombs. if the sensors find them then the bridge will get the warning. While I'm working on the sensors I (of course) continue to try and contact the bridge myself.

[CaptJustice]

Time doesn't afford looking for any other bombs : the best one can do is deal with the bomb at hand. seal off the sections leading to you and the escape pod and attempt to move the bomb to the escape pod and eject.

If the bomb goes off from movement, you die - people live.

If the bomb gets ejected with the pod, you live - move on to the next potential bombs.

[Asinorum]

I would attempt to override the nearby computer terminal, in order to force power towards the teleporters. In the override I would attempt to set-up a particular teleportation buffer in order to bounce the bomb off of two of them indefinitely. Immediately afterwards I would storm the decks in order to alert everyone to the problem, in order to buy us some time. In the chance that there is more than one bomb, and they had not yet detonated, we would use the "stasis" bomb as reference in order to defuse them quickly.

[laladiel]

few ways that this could be done, first, try to disarm it if there is enough time and once its disarmed, try some way to redirect comms so that i can get a message out, like have it flash across the main view screen if theres one left or across the computers on the bridge.

another way to do it if theres no time to disarm the bomb, hop into the escape pod, and if there is some kind of transporter on it, beam the bomb abord while beaming yourself back to the ship if possible, if not, then send out one last message to your ship "your welcome".

could try to short it out also i guess by pouring water on it if you have a way to get some.

[thraxxousai]

bomb cant be moved huh? so cut out the deck plate (i am an engineer) move the plate into the escape pod carefully. launch said escape pod and hope it muffles some of the explosion.

[Teejo08]

Attempt to disarm the bomb has to be the only straightforward choice. If you fail then at least you died doing your duty rather than abandoning your post.

If the bomb has a 'detonate upon moving' device in it then surely the saboteurs thought to put in an anti-transportation device as well. If not then i would attempt a transporter procedure, but rather than holding it in the buffer i'd get it off the ship as quickly as possible. I'm not gonna risk the bomb going off and damaging the ship any further.

[walltar]

I would try to disarm the bomb i am engineer after all. :cool:

[klep56]

you only live once, id just try to diarm it and if i fail... to bad.:D

[ByYourCommand]

To hell with disarming it, you'd probably never figure it out in time. Instead, take cover, and then pull out your hand phaser and vaporize it. :D Quick and efficient -- no bomb can go off without its explosive or its detonator.

If that's outside the rules, use a comlink in an escape pod (it would have to be self-contained) to contact the bridge and/or transporter room via the external (i.e. intership) comm system. Get the transporter operator to beam it out, either to space where it can explode harmlessly, or into the pattern buffer where it can be analyzed.

[MajorD]

Ummm, yeah. I'm going to take that escape pod and hope that everyone else did, too, considering the state of the ship.

[edit] Well, I realize now the old bit of enlightmenent about the goose in the glass bottle and you're asked, how do you release the duck from the bottle without breaking the glass or killing the goose? The answer is, there is no goose and bottle, it's just a question.

So, if I want, I'm a bomb disposal expert and I use my phaser to disable the bomb, hack its systems, and use them to determine it is linked with no other bombs. I use my combadge, which works because combadges work just fine separated from the ship's system, and use it to contact remaining personnel. Together we are able to launch the ship's emergency beacon, and repair the comms equipment.

[edit2] Eh, derrr. Escape pods have transporters, some do anyway. I'll transport the badboy out of the ship.

[JPThunda]

Hmm, ok, how about this.

Dial up my phaser to it's maximum setting. We just got out of a battle, of course I'd have one on hand. Now, cut out the section of floor/wall the bomb is attatched to. Very carefully, and with an Engineer's steady hand, you move the floor section into the escape pod, seal it shut, and launch the pod from the onboard ship. Now, leap for cover and brace for impact because the pod isn't going to get too far away before it goes. Hopefully the hull can take the hit.

Now we've taken care of the bomb at hand, and in a way the whole ship noticed. The bridge crew, being the intelligent Starfleet officers they are, put two and two together and warn the rest of the crew to search for more explosives and be on guard. I, assuming the pod's explosion didn't cause a hull breach, head towards the nearest control console and try to get internal sensors on to scan for more bombs.

[MajorD]

Hmm, ok, how about this.

Dial up my phaser to it's maximum setting. We just got out of a battle, of course I'd have one on hand. Now, cut out the section of floor/wall the bomb is attatched to-

BOOM! The bomb determines what you are doing and detonates itself early.:p

[JPThunda]

Assuming the bomb is sophisticated enough to detect a phaser being fired at the surface it's attatched to.

But you see, I knew it was incapable of doing that and that this was a safe course of action.

Why? Oh, because I'm an Engineer, of course.:p

[robgomm]

Get in the escape pod which should hopefully shield from the blast. The escape pod usually has it's own seperate comms system from the ship, so you should be able to use it to contact anyone else who may be able to communicate.

[Amblin]

Get in the escape pod which should hopefully shield from the blast. The escape pod usually has it's own seperate comms system from the ship, so you should be able to use it to contact anyone else who may be able to communicate.

Well as an engineer the first thing i would do is fix the quick reply button that thinks it's a quote button. :D

Next i'd jump in the escape pod and then attempt contacting the crew.

It makes perfect sense to save yourself as once the explosion is over, whatever is left of the ship and crew will need my help to repair the vessel.

If you want to 'man-up' and try and disarm the bomb you are blinded by pride. Pragmatism is the only way.

If you run the gauntlet of trying to get to the crew through the wreckage you're judgement is clouded.

Oh and Jettison the warp core! ;)

[Aspetra]

Given all the odds are against disarming the bomb in time, and I have no way of telling anyone about it. I would personally get into the escape pod, once safely away from the bomb I would activate the distress beacon in the pod to alert my ship, if it appears the ship is heavily damaged from the internal explosions then I would begin sending out sub-space frequiency distress calls looking for aid for the ship and the remaining crew if the ship manages to hold together long enough.

[Suricata]

I'd alter the airlock for the escape pod so it would jam open. I would then get in and launch it to get away from the blast area, I'm pretty sure that if the device is so complecated, me messing with it will probably increase the chance of it exploding, so getting out of there is probably a better option.

With that said, the act of jaming the airlock open will of depressurised the area, this could have atleast 2 possable outcomes, those being that the bomb could get sucked out into space away from the ship, the other, is that a blast corrider has been created, meaning if the device does explode, the explosions power won't be as damaging.

Once the escape pod is launched, I'd attempt to redock with the ship, preferably at a part of the ship I know there will be more crew members so that I can try and get word out about the device, afterall, it may be actually quicker to take the escape pod to another airlock than struggling to get though debri and broken doors in the ship.

[Irish-Fury]

I clutch at my chest and cry to the heavens "Somebody set us up the bomb!" kneeling before it I begin to deactivate the device, all the while quoting Melville... "To the last, I will grapple with thee... from Hell's heart, I stab at thee! For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!" :p

[VGer]

Cut The Red Wire

[trebort5050]

I'd get in the escape pod and get out of there :eek:

I'm an engineer, not a blast shield.

[DarkBarron]

I would set a phaser to max and shoot it. there may be a smaller explosion due to volatile materials. But most complicated bombs wont go off unless they follow their detonation procedure correctly. Like a nuke it can be blown up, you get a little fall out but no MUSHROOM BOOOOOOOOOOOOM!

[Phunix]

I would try and set up as strong a force field as I can around the bomb ASAP.
If necessary I would search for mobile field force fields.
Then use all the available personel at hand to do a ship wide search and do the same with any others found, then hope for the best...

Too much to lose to give up and leave the ship already IMO. Plus you can always respawn :p

[Allusion]

I'd activate the distress beacon in the escape pod with a message to warn the crew, use it's replicators to create portable force field generators and then use them to isolate the explosion. Finally I'd search for any remaining bombs and isolate them in the same way.

[lnquisitor]

I really do not understand the problem here.
Bomb:
Can't be moved.
Too complex to disarm quickly
no way to leave area.
No time for crew to leave ship even if warned.
probably more than one bomb on ship.
chance that ship can survive bomb.
Chance to escape only if you leave right now.


So the choice is die or leave?

OK I choose to leave.

[msbglarry]

I have to say that this scenario makes me a little angry. After all, what kind of question is do you save yourself and let others die, or do you try to help them?
My simple answer is: YOU ALWAYS TRY TO HELP OTHERS!

[Mile5]

I too choose the escape pod, assuming the bridge is intact either Ops or Security should notice that an escape pod has been launched. This in turn should lead to a chain of quick thinking on their part. Like, abandoning ship or them attempting to contact me in the escape pod so they find out why it was launched.

[Cptprev]

I would attempt to disarm the bomb and if I fail then atleast I died on duty and trying to save the crew. Personally I would be a Science Officer so I would know what would be best and I might have some knowledge of disarming bombs from Starfleet Academy Training.

[msbglarry]

I clutch at my chest and cry to the heavens "Somebody set us up the bomb!" kneeling before it I begin to deactivate the device, all the while quoting Melville... "To the last, I will grapple with thee... from Hell's heart, I stab at thee! For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee!" :p

I have to agree with you here, I mean black America voted him in simply because he is black. They didn't even bother to check him out. Don't get me wrong here, I mean I am grateful for the breakthrough as far as finaly having broken the color barrier, but come on people, use a little bit of common sense here! This guy isn't going to help the people, he is going to usher in the end of life as we know it!:)

[Moonschwine]

I run to the escape pod. Using the miles of cabling which have most likely fallen from the nearby destroyed comm pannels and what not and the tools in my trust engineering kit box I fashion a Jury-Rig between the Escape Pod, Bomb and Power Grid. I then use the bombs own power source, moderated through the escape pod and my expert engineering to stabilize the power grid, scan for other devices and warn others on the ship.

If the bomb goes my escape pod jettisons and I survive. I become a wreck of a man, lost without my pet cat left on the ship during the explosion I begin drinking Romulan Ale excessively. Years later, having fallen from grace I spend my self-tortured existence telling my 'I did all I could...' heart break story to new engineering cadets in the nearest dive bar to the Academy.

If all goes to plan, the ship recovers its power grid, other devices are disarmed and I survive. We limp back to the nearest starbase for repairs and refit. After reciving several medals and winning the heart of the young Ensign i've been eyeing for weeks I celebrate by drinking Romulan Ale excessively. Years later after becoming a decorated fleet admiral I retire and tell my heroic story to new engineering cadets in the nearest up-town bar to the Academy.

If I die, well...theres this bar and some Romulan Ale....

[Riowc65]

No time to disarm it, no time to warn anyone, escape is not an option. I say grab a phaser or disrupter, cut the deck plate it's sitting on, assuming that it is on a deck plate and not attached to the inside of the hull, hope that in keeping it on the deck plate I can move it and put it in the escape pod. If it is attached to the inside of the hull, try to seal of the area and cut away, the explosive decompression should suck it out in to space and away from the ship, ok so I go with it but that's a better alternative than running.

[Fawkes_Gryffin]

I'd do my best to save a ship and her crew. If that mean it takes my life so be it. After all Scott would at lest try to save the ship, right?

[Takaralolita]

I Would run about the ship waving my arm's widely and screaming "There's a Bomb" and run away as far as could from the bomb, steal shuttle craft and get out of dodge. in true fedaration form. i would send message to Cpt to tell him i always loved him and that i have his baby inside of me. then fly off to nearest M class Planet and live happly ever happly ever after. well at least until a younger version of my best friend from diffrent cannon comes to see me about how to deal with my other self.

[Virgil38]

Can't be moved? Right. So I won't move the bomb, just the space in which it is in...

So, gravplates and inertial dampeners will be my friends here. Being the crafty engineer I am, I calibrate the deck plate the bomb in on that no matter what direction I hold the plate it is "up" (since that concept doesn't matter in space anyway). I hijack the inertial dampeners so at no time me moving the plate will cause it to believe it is being moving. This is all "passive" in that it is not actually effecting the bomb directly, just the area it is in. Walk over to escape pod with now "it weighs nothing in 0g" plate, and jettison bye bye. Then proceed to get comm back online.

[DustTheWind]

*Considering bombs use pressure to cause their destructive force I would jam the escape pod hatch so the hatch doors don't close when the escape pod fires off. Then i would set the escape pod set to fire remotely before bomb goes off. Then completely seal off the room.

If possible I would then:

*Send a message to the ship computer to warn the crew and scan for and leave a message to do the same to any other bombs found on the ship with a description of what they look like.

*Set up force fields around the room to buffer any damage to the rest of the ship if possible.

*I would inquire of the ship who placed the bombs and if their ship is near by.

*Then I would attempt to teleport the bomb outside the ship if possible to any other hostile detected craft or into space. If lucky the bomb might explode on their ship. If not the damage would be reduced due to precautions taken.

[Tiberius_John_Worthing]

If there is any hope at all that the rest of the crew might survive, I detach the plating were the bomb is load that onto the shuttle, and send it off. if there is no hope for other survivors, I take the shuttle and leave.

[izzyman]

Gently put the explosive device in the escape pod and jettison it. if it's too heavy then get in the escape pod myself and try and use the radio onboard to notify the rest of the ship.:rolleyes:

[Yaralindi]

This situation has far too many "possibly" and "could" to make it a good scenario. I do not know exactly how much time is left (there is a big difference between 1 minute and 10) or even if the bomb is a dud or not. I do not know if there are others. I do know my ship and fellow crew members are in danger. Since it is not known if I have the requisite skills to disarm this device, my only logical choice is to get away from it.

I therefore pick up the pace at finding my way out of this damaged area so I can warn others. If the bomb goes off:

a) it could be the only one and my engineering skills will be needed to repair the damage
b) if there are more, my warning to other crew member might be enough to save some of them
c) if luck is on my side, a weapons specialist is just around the corner who can help me
d) if luck is not on my side, I knew the risks of Star Fleet when I joined, but I did my duty

[merlinsorca]

I try to add a force field to supress the blast. If I can't use a force field, then I look for an airlock.
If there's an airlock, I will open it and, because of the very slow procedure, I can get into the escape pod and, well, escape. The bomb will get blown out into space and I will be safe :)
But if there are more bombs We're screwed, I don't have time to get back inside, warn everyone, and disable them.
If there's no airlock I will set my phaser on cut. This will be a handy tool in trying to deactivate the bomb. If I fail, or there are more bombs on board, we're screwed. :(

[extraspicy]

There's been a flurry of Kobayashi Maru scenarios lately all dealing with ethical problems, and sometimes with multiple STATED solutions to choose from.

Can we switch to more tactical problems, especially problems that seem like totally hopeless with almost no way out, and explain those situations in alot of detail so that can deduce the solution ourselves creatively?

Pretty please?

[Vulcazoid]

This scenario is brought to you by Sarreous. Good luck!

I'd disarm the bomb. If there's no time to warn anyone than it's the only thing to do. Furthermore, as to the possibility that there may be more of them, honestly if there are there's no way of knowing whether there is or not, nor is there anything to be done about it. Therefore, I would focus on what I knew and what I could do, and that's disarm the bomb. I'm not going to abandon the ship with an armed bomb onboard.

Kudos btw, it's a well thoughtout KM, especially since it involves a key factor of any KM: death.

[Archangelwoghd]

Eject the warp core!

Use the Transporter buffer!


There is no Kobayashi Maru scenario that cannot be solved with one of these two options!

[Archangelwoghd]

Ok, the escape pod will have a radio to send distress calls. I use it to attempt to contact the rest of the ship. It has it's own independent power supply.

[nip]

Assuming the absents of: Borg technology in general and a Tardis. Sprint to the escape pod but do not launch. Use the pods isolated power to inturn use the COM system to: alert the bridge to scan for any foreign devices on your current deck (if possible), alert any transporter room listening to orders on the COM to transport that device off the ship (if possible); and use any available power to raise shields (if possible). Finally tell the bridge to create level five force-fields and seal off the section to reduce hul damage, and depressurise that section. Launch the pod and if the ship explodes then dedicate your life to search out a temporal anomaly that will take you back to a time that will save your ship, and/or collapse a star and capture the singularity of the forming blackwhole and time travel that way.

[Haladay]

I'd run for the escape pod. Then I'd hope the open airlock from the escape pod would pull the bomb out with me or atleast suck the explosion out. If the ship was that badly in shape and the Captain hadn't given the order to abandon ship, then I'd use that time to initiate my own private mutiny.

[Vlherg]

I set my phaser to max and incinerate the bomb which prevents it exploding. As I am not wearing a red shirt my plan succeeds and I survive to take part in next week's episode.
On the other hand, if my shirt is red I make for the escape pod - though that will probably malfunction and kill me.

[ehb]

First who made the bomb, klingon, Romulan, Cardassian, Borg, but Borg was never known to use bombs or is it some new alien device?

What type of bomb is it? nuke, plasma, ect?

Myself I would cut the plating around the bomb but not move it. If there is a life suit, I would put that on, if not, oh well it was a good life. I would then launch the escape pod and the vacum would then suck the bomb out of the ship. The bomb will be right behind the escape pod so even if you used the pod, you wont survive the blast that the pod will take.

[SenatorPardek]

Knowing nothng about the bomb and assuming that I am not a demolitions specialist, attempting to disarm it might just detonate it. If I was an engineer, i doubt I'd be an explosives expert. The smart thing to do is take the escape pod and use the com to warn the ship, as another poster mentioned these pods have their own power supply. Also, this would probably have to be a split second decision, and I think given the circumstances probably the best one. I like this scenario because there are no real good solutions, just options.

ALTHOUGH

If I have an emergency transporter armband, i can beam that sucker into space.

[Winginit]

Looking at the complaints against this scenario, yeah, it could have been written better. But the point was to put you into a situation where you just do not have the time to mull over the possibilities. In real life, (or at least a Trek episode) I think most would try to disarm the bomb even if the odds were against them. Throwing in other unknown factors could play to a person's personality and effect their fight-or-flight response. There's so many different ways you could go about this if you want to take it further than just picking an answer. Are you a quick thinker? Do you over think the situation? Do you just panic? How deep does the logic vs. emotion struggle go?

You could even change some of those "unknowns" into "knowns" if it helps.

Personally, I'm just glad I haven't seen a single "Needs of the many..." line yet.

There's been a flurry of Kobayashi Maru scenarios lately all dealing with ethical problems, and sometimes with multiple STATED solutions to choose from.

Can we switch to more tactical problems, especially problems that seem like totally hopeless with almost no way out, and explain those situations in alot of detail so that can deduce the solution ourselves creatively?

Pretty please?

Yeah, that would be nice. I second this.

[one4chaos]

Although my instinct might be to try and disarm the bomb, the right thing to do is warn the command structure about the bomb and its location. Keep trying to get in contact with them and warn any crewmen you see as you move through the ship. Look for ways to contact the Bridge that may be out of the ordinary. A good way is to try and get to a communicator if you know a place where they are stored. Or a computer station, if any are working.

Although this seems like the least proactive approach, it is the most logical based on the information at hand.

If you try to disarm the bomb, you may fail and that could finish off the ship. If you succeed there is a chance there are more and the ship will still be destroyed.

If you abandon ship then you may survive the destruction of the ship and still not be rescued (plus you will be dishonored)

"Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun."
Ash

[DonTheMage]

You are an engineer aboard a ship that has survived an intense battle. Comms are offline, and there are power fluctuations across the grid.

You are in a section of the ship that has lost power. While trying to find your way out, you find a foreign device. You soon recognize it as being a high powered explosive, and further examination shows that there is not much time left before it detonates.

This bomb is highly complex, and you know that you may not have enough time to disarm it. There is also the possibility of there being more of these explosives. With the continuing power fluctuations, the internal sensors may not have detected them yet. You have no way of contacting anyone from your location. You can try to get out of the area and get the word out, but due to all of the obstacles such as closed doors that need to be forced open and rubble everywhere, the chances of getting to anyone in time are slim to none.

The bomb is designed to detonate if it's moved.

In the opposite direction is an escape pod. You can get to it and escape the explosion if you immediately launch after getting in. There would be no time to send a message. Your only hope then would be is that there is only one bomb, and the ship's damaged structural integrity is strong enough to take it. If there are more, there is no hope for survivors.

Do you try to disarm the bomb, try to warn the crew although there probably won't be enough time to escape or do you save yourself and hope for the best?

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Simple -- the second option is the logical option. However, your initial actions are based on the third option. In this case, you go to the escape pod, and use its communications to warn the crew.

There's nothing in the scenario that says the bomb will blow up by simply entering the pod, and it also says you can't contact anyone from where you are. It also says there would be no time to send a message before launching the pod -- but who says you have to launch?

Since there is little likelyhood that you can disarm or safely move the device, there is a better likelyhood that you will have better options if you move yourself. Since the path in one direction is closed, but the path to the escape pod is open -- that path is the logical choice.

There's nothing that says you have to use the escape pod once you're in it -- it says that you can escape the explosion if you take off immediately after entering it. In this case, you know the pod has a functional radio, so you use that ability rather than just launching.

The crew is warned, and the best option in the scenario is chosen/fulfilled in the most logical/safest manner.

[bobsentell]

If I'm able to ascertain all of that within a few seconds, I believe I'll just bail. I'll get in the escape pod and hope I'm found. At least I'll be alive to tell SFC what happened.

Also, maybe I could jam the inner door open and let the vaccum of space pull the bomb off the ship when the escape pod ejects.

[cgcatcher]

This one is easier than most others. Of couse you stay and try to disarm it. You're an engineer for Pete's sake, get it done

[Whitewolf1984]

The answer is in the power grid.

Your an engineer so making the power grin thats already on the blink, blink in a certain code for instance MORSE CODE.

You make the powergrid fluctuate in morse code repeating the same message over and over.

Bomb on board <give location and name> and tell them your using the escape pod to get away from the explosion as there is nothing you can do.


Result ships crew is warned and you are alive. just pray that its only the one bomb and the captain secured the area.

[Sunleaper]

"The Kobayashi senario frequently wreaks havoc with students and eqiupment. As I recall, you took the test three times yourself, your final solution was, shall we say, unique."
-Captain Spock

This Senario is getting more into the spirit of things.

Cutting away the bulkheads the device is attached to will accomplish nothing. Simple motion sensors will likely detect such feeble attempts.
Power fluctuations would likely also mean transporter systems are non operational. Engineers are not ordinance trained, that would fall more along the lines of a tactical EOD specialist.
My solution.
Use my comm-badge to alert the bridge of the potential threat. Then use my tricorder and manually seal off the section with both emergency bulkheads as well as containment force fields. As an engineer aboard a starship it is well known that at any time, I may be called upon to make sacrifices.
The solution is simple. One life to save a ship.
I may be able to disarm the device under remote direction from a trained specialist, should I fail, hopefully my precautions will minimize the damage.

[anarcus]

part question part answer dont escape pods have emergency site to site transporters
time is short the is no time for study and id rather die trying to save my fellow crewmates than
flee with guilt of cowardness if you cannot transport it of the ship atleast attempt to move it
into the escape pod for extra dampining

[Phantomraptor]

part question part answer dont escape pods have emergency site to site transporters
time is short the is no time for study and id rather die trying to save my fellow crewmates than
flee with guilt of cowardness if you cannot transport it of the ship atleast attempt to move it
into the escape pod for extra dampining

I've never heard of them being in escape pods personally, but not 100% sure.

Anywho, I would seal off and jettison the section the bomb is in so it can get to a safer distance. From observation of one of the Voyager episodes, they do have the ability to jettison parts of the ship.

After that do what you can to try and get a hold of the bridge and warn them.

[mbrwn2003]

i would have anther engering worker try to worn the crew and i would try to disarm it

[Southpaw007]

So am I the only one that thinks these scenarios are getting a little tired. They all seem to try to close every loophole and narrow it down to 2 very extreme choices.

.....Your ship is hit by enemy fire while you are taking care of an extreme bowel movement. You have just finished but there is hardly any time to wipe. Do you leave the restroom without wiping knowing that those valuable seconds could be spent at your station and save the known universe, or do you selfishly wipe knowing that lives are being lost due to your need to feel comfortable.

Also all the transporters are down and the instant wipe my bumb button on your tricorder isn't working.

WHAT DO YOU DO MAN? WHAT DO YOU DO?!?

[Raibart]

Good thing i'm an Engineer and not the Captain or I'd have to stay. So yes I head for the escape pod, eject safetly away .
Theres no power so I can't create a containment field, I can't deactivate it in time,and there's no point in comunicating from the pod cause the bomb(s) will go off seconds after I eject. This is one of those senarios
where you just have to accept the's nothing you can do....except save yourself.

[Rattletrap]

-Not enough info to answer adequately.
When i examine the device, can it be disarmed? Is there a chance? what odds am i looking at. I play the odds.

IF the best hope for the survival of the ship is to try to disarm, that's what i do/

IF the chances of a disarm are negligible and it is almost certain it will explode before i can warn anyone, i try to memorize what it looks like, look for identifying tech and markers and jump in the escape pod.

IF we want to revert to technobabble to solve it, then it's an easy fix that any television crew would have solved in @40 minutes.

More info to form logical paths to solution are needed before making a choice either way in a test like this, though this one is better than the majority of alleged KM scenarios that have came before it.

Rattletrap

[Trekkie]

If I absolutely had no chance of warning my other crewmembers, I think that I would attempt to go the escape pod route -- because at least that way the risk is minimized if it is the only explosive device on the ship. Still, I do think that more information would be needed in order to properly solve this scenario (some clues as to what the explosive device might be, for example).

[exiledchanter]

As a Starfleet (Or Klingon for that matter) officer, it is your duty to willingly sacrifice your life to save the lives of those around you, if the need arises. As an Engineer, you may not have the weapons knowledge to safely disarm the explosives, but your duty is to at least try. A slim chance of disarming it is much better than no chance at all.

Were it I who was placed in such a scenario, I would try my best to disarm the explosives, or at the least render them less harmful than they already are, in an attempt to preserve the lives of as many of my fellow crewmates as possible.

Should I successfully disarm such a device, I would then leave the area and attempt to notify other crewmen of my discovery and warn them of other possible explosives. Anything other than that would seem to be dishonourable, a dereliction of duty, and a disregard for the lives of the people on board your vessel.

[Drelbking]

As an Engineer you have access to tools and know were to find them. I get a cutter and remove the section of deck plate the device sits on then carefully move it to the escape pod. I jetisson the escape pod and get back to making repairs while looking for more explosives. "Bothersome devices just gonna make more of a mess and drag this day out even further".

[Angelomega]

Find the nearest Deck control console, Disable the gravity on the section and deck your in, Once the gravity is disabled use your phaser to cut around the floor panel the bomb is sitting on, Grab some debris wedge the floor panel up and then push the bomb into the escape pod close the hatch and deploy the escape pod. Internal sensors onboard the escape pod should identify the bomb and signal the command deck.

[lunarj]

It says the bomb is complex and there "may" not be time to disarm it. I would chose to take that risk. As for there being other bombs, I just have to trust my ship mates in other parts of the ship to deal with those.

[Conman]

i like this mission theres not alot of room for wiggle... weighing all the options... and since starfleet apparently didnt know about these weapons i would comit what i seen of them device to memory and take the escape pod to the front of the ships bridge and S.O.S. with lights bomb on board evacuate crew. that being done i would send a subspace message of the device to starfleet command and maybe the fleet could prepare there crews for such a weapon.

[j_nickence]

Obviously if there's been a battle, there's not going to be anywhere safe to escape to, so jumping in the pod is not smart. I don't know if there are others alive, but the ship is all I personally have. My priority is now to save the ship. So my only option is to try to disarm the bomb. My first action is to attempt to communicate with the ships computers. Perhaps I might be able to catch an isolated link. If I get a connection, my command is to have the ship attempt to warn any others, while attempting to isolate the blast from ships's local systems if I fail. This means creating a debris wall. If I still have time, then I'll monkey with the bomb. And pray. Because I'm human. Humans like to pray when they face certain death.

[padawon]

I would have to use the escape pod so I could try to contact the bridge or some one on the ship. If I stayed and be bomb gose off theres no one to let any one know what had happened, and to have some one to check for more bombs.

[Arokh72]

Use the cheat codes.

[Techrat3D]

I would assume that even the esacape pods have a small emergency transporter, just like the Class-2-Phobia shutles on Voyager.
Here are 2 options if this is the case:
1. Program the escape pod to jettison, and transport the bomb onto the pod before it leaves transporter range. This is just in case the bomb has sensors to notice a transporter beam.
2. Use the transporter, and disperse the boms molecules across the universe. If your lucky, it will create a nice lightshow.

Option 2 would be better, just in case there are more bombs, then you can maybe get rid of them in the same manner.

[jhem99]

User transporter code 9.:D

[Ptahk]

For god sake! These are getting ridiculous! Release the game already! :(

[Blodveard]

I would trust my training and expertise as a ship's engineer and try to disarm the bomb.

Worrying about the possibility that there are multiple bombs is moot, could do nothing about them anyway.

Trying to warn the rest of the crew is a slim prospect considering the circumstances.

Using the escape pod to save myself, would be a dereliction of my duty.

Worse case scenerio, I die performing my duty.

[jameshosie]

Try to disarm it and die tryin

[Beau75]

I would attempt to disarm it, if I couldn't and it didn't explode then I would ask Q for a favor.

[DaemonEX]

Here's a plan.

Try taking off your combadge, and planting it on the bomb. Then try to warn people who have access to transporter systems to transport the bomb off-board via Combadge. (Internal sensors maybe off, but combadge can be locked on independently, so this might work.) You could try warning those people by using a still operating terminal, getting to them in person, or if this is all impossible, just shout to other crewmembers who might be able to reach them. Warning them to look out for other bombs could be invaluable too.

Searching and planting combadges on the bombs is a solution, as the bombs would not explode (at least not until off-board), though only if transporter systems are still operational. This information is not given in the 'briefing' though, so this seems like a fair shot to me.

[nyybow]

Try To set off the fire sensors on the deck to raise the suppression fields then while I'm still in side the field attempt to dis arm the bomb if there is a replicator near by replicate a bucket of water and try to disrupt the circuitry by pouring water on the bomb to short it out if this fails most of the blast will be contained in the integrity field and loss of life should be minimal.

[MushroomGod]

I'd put the bomb into escape pod and send it on it's way. Simple as that.

[westtell4]

You try to disarm it. If there is not enough time to warn the crew, there wouldn't be enough time for them to all evacuate anyway, even assuming you could warn them all. And abandoning the ship and crew is just not an option for a starfleet officer. If the bomb goes off, at least you died doing your duty!

[RavenXavier]

First warn my fellow crew mates, then try to disarm it. If that doesn't work I have my own sollution...hope this is allowed.

As a engineer I would assume the crewman in question has more technical expertise then the average crewman. Seeing as this section of the ship has no power I would hurry and route my phaser to the nearest power coupling. Then I would stick my communicator badge onto the bomb. Then I would initiate a site to site transport and beam my communicator (and the bomb) as far away from the ship as possible.

BOOM!!!!

The bomb explodes, the ship and all aboard are safe.

"Excuse me, sir, I need a new com badge"

:)

[drshay5]

I would go to the nearest engineering console and start the seperation process for the sauser section. As soon as that started, I would rig the self destruct alarm to come on and lock out security codes. I would then run to an escape pod and watch as everyone else made it out. (Due to the false self destruct alarm. Just the alarm would be activated, not the self destruct process it's self.) I would wait to see which section blew up, (hopefully not both sections) and would communicate with the captain (or highest ranking officer) about the situation. At least everyone would have gotten out and maybe we would all be lucky and have the sauser section left!

[chuxor]

The tried and true fav. of mine is put up a level 10 forcefield around anything bad, evil, or explosive...
Yes you need to power it ... The ship has power fluctautions the escape pod is a separate system...use it!

Ok sensors ... We need to find more things that may go boom.... Again we have another separate system we can use ... emergency Lights since the 20th century have been separate systems ... use them to power up the ships sensors (passive scan first!) lets not trip another failsafe in the bomb(s) ... ok if more are found ... well we need more level 10 forcefields ... IE more power... how about Life support heck if the bombs go your dead anyway... you will still get more time to contact the crew and people start taking note a stale air in thier lungs pretty quick...

I would bet this won't get you out of the woods ... but it will certainly give the crew time to abandon ship...

Good luck and Long life ...

[vafle]

I would try to repair power, or use power from life support or something else and dirrect force field 10 around the bomb to.

[FrankieDoo]

This scenario is brought to you by Sarreous. Good luck!

Simple. I'm a Vulcan. I can do anything. I'm also a Romulan. I disarm it and place the ship and the lives of the crew above all else, including my own life. I believe I can succeed. In Mass Efect, I've disarm bombs before. :)

[cooldude11]

how bout u just save ur own butt. then land on another planet and recruit new members

[ZT_Strike]

Now that a Kobayashi Maru, I don't really have much of a plan for this one.

[darylofborg]

I'm sure if it's as *complex* as you said it is.. Then perhaps it's a Cardassian made smart bomb that has been reconfigured to attack the Cardassian's based on B'lana's smarts.. I would talk to it and confuse it to convince itself to disarm itself and transport itself off the ship...


EASY .. NEXY

[AZSHARA]

detach the floor board with the bomb and put that in the escape pod XD
then run to a working consol and check if theirs more:D

[teemuh101275]

It seems that situation is grim, Spock once told that against impossible odds the best tactical approach is escaping. However you may only save yourself and in other hand it is your duty as a Starfleet officer to try and do something you can. Firstly you can report bridge (Comm badges work ion their own power and system and will not be affected by ships power malfunctions) that there is a bomb on board in case they have enough power to raise emergency forcefields to isolate that section of ship. If that is not possible it would be good try to transport it to space, which option does not seem to be possible as the bomb can detect if it is moved. Lastly everyone else could go and use escape pods to evacuate while you use your phaser to blast ceiling to fall down as an obstacle and use what ever means necessary to isolate the blast. If you are still alive at this point you too will make your way to escape pod. If ship survives the blast you and the crew can dock their pod´s and continue repairs. If ship does not survived, then most of crew will stioll be alive waiting for resue in escape pod´s.

[ussawsomeness]

if I have a tricorder,
I can contact others, and ask the captain what I should do. :D
that, or contact them to leave the ship and
get in the pod. :)

[Spire]

Throw the bomb into the escape pod and blast it off the ship. If it can't be moved safely then I'm getting myself off the ship. Better to at least have one person make it off to tell what happened.

[Hays]

You are an engineer aboard a ship that has survived an intense battle. Comms are offline, and there are power fluctuations across the grid.

You are in a section of the ship that has lost power. While trying to find your way out, you find a foreign device. You soon recognize it as being a high powered explosive, and further examination shows that there is not much time left before it detonates.

This bomb is highly complex, and you know that you may not have enough time to disarm it. There is also the possibility of there being more of these explosives. With the continuing power fluctuations, the internal sensors may not have detected them yet. You have no way of contacting anyone from your location. You can try to get out of the area and get the word out, but due to all of the obstacles such as closed doors that need to be forced open and rubble everywhere, the chances of getting to anyone in time are slim to none.

The bomb is designed to detonate if it's moved.

In the opposite direction is an escape pod. You can get to it and escape the explosion if you immediately launch after getting in. There would be no time to send a message. Your only hope then would be is that there is only one bomb, and the ship's damaged structural integrity is strong enough to take it. If there are more, there is no hope for survivors.

Do you try to disarm the bomb, try to warn the crew although there probably won't be enough time to escape or do you save yourself and hope for the best?


It is apparent that I am in a section close to the outer hull, “escape pods are close”
Further more there is atmosphere where I am due to the fact I am alive.
I would take out my phaser, set it to overload, use some of the debris to hold it against the outer hull and to focus the explosion, enter the escape pod, eject from the ship, use the Pods Communication device to warn the bridge while piloting the pod to the shuttle bay, at this time my phaser would have detonated causing a large hole to appear in the outer hull, the pressure from the anterior section would push the bomb out of the hull prior to it detonating “if not the hole in the hull would allow most of the pressure from the bomb to be expelled into the vacuum of space. I would then exit the pod and enter a shuttle craft, perform a scan of the ship to locate any other explosives, if any are found I would beam them off the ship.
Time for some Romulan Ale.

Yours truly,
Captain Hays.

[Kilawpilath]

I would do my best to disarm the bomb, but if it didn't look like I was going to be able to disarm the Bomb before it went off I would head for the escape pod and pray for the best. Yelling as I went to the escape pod about the bomb and hoping any nearby crew would hear the warning and take the necessary precautions. I would also try to use the escape pod to jury-rig some comunications in order to warn the ship of further explosions hopefully before the bomb I discovered went off.

[Teleri]

If there are other bombs scattered through the ship, waisting time disarming one without warning anyone could result in the death of the entire crew. However, I WOULD suggest attempting to disarm it if you're in a vital section of the ship (the engineering section, for example would likley be the sole intended target of your enemy.)

If you're in a random section with no real functional importance, then there's a good chance that there are other bombs. In this case, spending time searching for other crewmembers could be potentially fatal... and so your only hope of saving the crew would be to attempt to bring the comms back online or repair the ships internal sensors.

If this doesn't work, you better hope you have time to jump into the escape pod and launch. Who knows, maybe the rest of the crew were just as lucky.

[SiskoBell]

You're an engineer. The bomb must be disarmed. Once done, then you can try to warn others and/or search for and disarm any other devices. As an engineer, if you aren't going to disarm it, who will? Even if you could warn others, some one from the engineering team would still have to deal with the devices. Might as well take this one down and move to the next. Obviously, escaping is not an option.

On the other hand, if you had access to some technology (grav levs, etc) you could set up an inertial dampening field around the bomb to make it think it's stationary while you move it to the escape pod. You could launch the pod, then let the bomb detonate off the ship.

[Capt.Perkins]

Hey all!
I'm new to the forums. My friends and I all can't wait for STO to come out. We plan to form a starfleet crew together.

In this case I would have to say that I would attempt to disarm the mine.

Here is why: All my years training as a starfleet officer would require me to have a strong moral obligation to the well being of others and the sanctity of life.
~
As well, the chances that the mine would explode if I did not attempt to disarm it are nearly 100%
If I were to entertain the notion of taking the escape pod and gambling that there are not other mines, then I'd still have to worry about whether or not the structural integrity would hold.

If I abandoned ship and crew, and the mine exploded it would most certainly be a disaster. The lives of the many outweigh the lives of the few ;)

[Charles_Storm]

I would try to disarm the motion sensors on it (that should be easy to do), and place it on the pod and jetison it. Then search for more. Using a transporter would deactivate it, but time is critical.

[SurvokThomas]

I would take my communicator and tricorder and modify them to create a small, very powerful forcefield generator (like Worf in "A Fistful of Datas") that would envelope the device completely in a tight field that would maximize forcefiled strength. I would then carefully place my new field emitter on the explosive device and based on the timer, I would have the tricorder automatically acyivate the forcefield 1 second before detonation to maximize the power available for the forcefield. Then I would run to the escape pod, seal the hatch and modify its emergency transmitter array and use it to try and warn anyone I can about the impending blast, and then I would divert all power from the pod into the life support system for that deck and use it it to establish emergency forcefields around the damaged section and then evacuate the air inside the forcefields to minimize the collateral damages. I would then spacesuit up and head back in to asses the damage and try to find a way out of the damaged section to try and help with repairs.

[Ghostmooner]

I'd releave myself on it, shorting it out! sparks everywhere, and from the bomb too! melting the metal casing and find a makers mark or some indication of who made it, magically fly over to the makers of the bombs with my super awsome star trek powers of destiny, releave myself on them, melt their metal casings and find their makers marks, then fly over with my super awsome star trek powers of destiny to their mommas and slap their mommas, their mommas' momma, and the pet dog! I Hath SPoKen! ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm!

[msbglarry]

As I have stated many times before, it is the duty and obligation of every Starfleet officer to protect lives. At any moment a Starfleet officer may have to lay down thier life in order to save other lives. In any case this statement should always be followed: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
Therefore, the question of do you save yourself, or others should never be asked!:)

[criongel]

The motion sensors are knackered anyway otherwise it'd have gone off during the aforementioned battle, chuck it in the pod and get rid, then head to 10 forward for pie and a pint.

[deeboboy]

blow the escape pod the open the air lock hope the bomb flys out into space....



this one was a good maru thanks for posting it

[Reeves]

I would find a functioning transporter and use it to beam the device into space if t detonates mid transport i would route it through the transporter buffer

[ecksminusone]

Using the tricorder an engineer should have as part of their damage control kit during a space battle I record the specifications of the bomb, board the escape pod and launch with my precious cargo of intelligence. Once my ship is destroyed and I am picked up I use the data to track down the maker of the bomb, beat the names of the people he/she/it made the bomb for, and then exact revenge for my fallen crew mates on the cowards, perhaps in an appropriately ironic way such as strapping bombs to their lovers or children to reflect the pain an engineer feels over the mistreatment of the precious ship they love and care for.

[foxpur]

Following the setup there is some alternatives:

1) The bomb can't be moved within some sort limitation since the SHIP moves.. Therefor IT can't be moved from where it is, this is not the same as can't be moved.

Affix bomb to floor, this can be done by tearing your shirt for strips and pulling off your shoe heels for tacks or adhesive and still the strips in place. Phaser Cutting away the floor around the bomb. Get to pod. Blow hull a new hole, close pod quick but stay. Physics say explosions head to path of least resistance regardless of the yield, in this case with a blast shield.

The pressure is enclosed and now you have given fire, air a way out... bomb goes off or not, doesn't matter much exploding or not it goes out the hole and the floor with it (depending if the floor goes makes the bomb think is hasn't moved or not). If it blows there is a directional blast AWAY from the ship and the escaping pressure is already going vacuum-ward and you have a floor panel further reducing back-blast. You are safe in the pod but no need to leave, just need the air.

You have a few more holes and some scratches but no real damage.

2) Bomb yield not specified, similar to 1 with minor changes..

The floor is not completely cut away (95%) and a hole is scored in the wall, bigger than bomb+floor. if you cane enclose the bomb leaving the way clear to the wall even better (like sliding doors) stuff that's big and can follow the bomb to give a better blast shield.


Note: Against Escape Pod version in prior post: Any escape pod has blast doors that close to protect others going to their own pods, how'd you like to have someone jump in a pod and vac you out when they launch. Again, Physics is NOT your friend here. The pod launch is kind of low pressure, you don't want to pancake the passengers, and that means you are not leaving a real useful pressure bubble... IF you jimmy the doors NOT to close as they are designed to do AND override the safety speed AND override the external pressure needs AND have enough internal pressure to pull the bomb across the floor without it going boom (which will happen as soon as the bomb moved toward the door)... you have a chance.

This is why I set up a start depressurize in a close proximity to the bomb and a redirect of physics if it blows.

[aponnezhan]

Pray to whatever gods you beleive in and detonate the bomb

[aaahost]

phaser to stun........

[Levry]

Should be able to throw it in the pod and launch. If the controls are off line and you cannot deactivate the device then you sacrafic yourself for your crewmates.

[Ghostmooner]

I'd releave myself on it, shorting it out! sparks everywhere, and from the bomb too! melting the metal casing and find a makers mark or some indication of who made it, magically fly over to the makers of the bombs with my super awsome star trek powers of destiny, releave myself on them, melt their metal casings and find their makers marks, then fly over with my super awsome star trek powers of destiny to their mommas and slap their mommas, their mommas' momma, and the pet dog! I Hath SPoKen! ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmm!

Actually, on second thought, the designers probably didn't account for moisture or liquids, I would try to get it wet and see what happens, who knows maybe that might sort it out. shouldn't be too hard to find a nearby water source, someone's crew quarters, the bathroom on the deck, or your own bodily fluids.
if not that, then i'd hop into the excape pod and bug out of there in a heartbeat.


for a no win scenerio, it is almost impossable to actually win, the most you can do is just survive long enough to warn others of the dangers your incountering so that other ships and lives have some sort of warning.

[NyQuil]

1) Put seat in up right position and make sure tray table is in locked position.
2) Place head between knees.
3) Kiss ass goodbye.
4) Slap God for making life difficult.

[bmcaleb]

id shoot it end of story

[adonils]

This scenario has a ton of in and outs, and a lot of what have you's. Hard to follow.

But I would put the bomb in a stasis field. Although it would be a mass in would not be a mass within space/time. It would be a non-event mass with a quatum probability of zero!! :D

[NyQuil]

This scenario has a ton of in and outs, and a lot of what have you's. Hard to follow.

But I would put the bomb in a stasis field. Although it would be a mass in would not be a mass within space/time. It would be a non-event mass with a quatum probability of zero!! :D

Uh oh. Someone is a fan of Red Dwarf, Season 1, Episode 1. Very nice.

[adonils]

Uh oh. Someone is a fan of Red Dwarf, Season 1, Episode 1. Very nice.

Let's not forget, let's NOT forget Dude the Big Lebowski references as well! :rolleyes:

[cipher_nemo]

Uh oh. Someone is a fan of Red Dwarf, Season 1, Episode 1. Very nice.

And from an American here... I still love Red Dwarf too. ;)

[NyQuil]

And from an American here... I still love Red Dwarf too. ;)

Yeah, I have all the seasons of Red Dwarf. Can't get enough of British humour. Any Black Adder fans here?

[HaveANiceDay]

According to several Star Trek episodes, escape pods do have an emergency transporter installed and also have an own power supply. I would get into the pod, start the launching secuence, lock on the torpedo and beam it on board right after the escape pod launches. I would be dead but hopefully it was the only explosive left on board the ship.

[Gold-Eagle]

I see three possibilities:
1) try and disarm the bomb.
2) use a bomb kit to contain the explosion like in the book Star Trek: Death Count. Once this bomb is contained you can go and look for more bombs or another crewman.
3) if this is the Kobayashi Maru could you "reprogram" the test like Kirk? :)

[tallguy86]

well you would have to disarm the bomb. you can't assume that they planted a large number of bombs and you can't waste time trying to inform someone else. And if you leave you are just a coward. If you don't succeed, oh well you are just an engineer and you did your best.

[Blackavaar]

I attempt to disarm the circuits that keep the bomb from being moved. Once doing that I move the bomb into the escape pod and jetison it. Hopefully there are no other bombs and my actions saved myself and the ship from destruction.

:D

[wonka2112]

What are my skills at defusing such an alien device? Tampering with such a device would be foolish in my opinion. And ejecting from a severely damaged ship in the midst of a battle is not a wise move either. The risk of capture and torture an even worse scenario.

Having said that, I'd take my chances and calmly take the pod, leaving the crew to their demise.
Leaving a doomed ship, if given the chance sounds rather appealing to me. But what would you expect from a Cardassian?

[David_A_L]

This scenario is brought to you by Sarreous. Good luck!

As u said , you are a Starfleet Engineer

[David_A_L]

This scenario is brought to you by Sarreous. Good luck!

As you said , you are a Starfleet engineer , so u will do your duty to the end ! Disharm that device & warn the crew & repair the ship

[brothersandfriends]

I would take the transporter on the Escape Pod and use it to transport the bomb away. Of course I would check it for transport inhibitors, and disable them. ;)

[ChrisBrehe]

If you can't fool it and somehow get it into the escape pod to blast away, then try to contain the blast as much as possible with surrounding rubble, set up a dampening field with a portable generator if possible. When you've done all you can, get as far away as possible.

This scenario is brought to you by Sarreous. Good luck!

The motion detector makes this idea pretty much impossible.

I would warn any crewman within earshot by shouting 'RUN THERE IS A BOMB'. Then I would grab nearby debris and slide it under the device (putting it on a platform of sorts) and escape with it in one of the pods. Hopefully the motion sensor detonates only if it is moved from 'it's surface' to prevent premature explosion when it is being set by saboteurs. Once safely away from the ship, I would attempt to disarm the device while risking only my own life.

It is possible but it would be very tricky and you would have to use extreme caution. With luck after disarming the thing after repairs are complete enough you could take it to security and they could trace it to the petaQs who planted it.

[Snip]

First there not enough time to disarm the bomb but there might be enough time to disable the motion sensor that trigger the bomb if moved. Once disable u have time to place the bomb in the escape pod and jettenson the sucker and cross your fingers and toes that there not another aboard.

[ussawsomeness]

I would run as fast as I can and
attempt to seperate the saucer section.
I guess the people outside the saucer section suck. :D

[mclarenf1hoof]

get to the nearest shuttle bay and use the shuttle comm to warn the ship and transport the explosive out then scan for other devices :)

[teemuh101275]

In other hand, i would cut the red wire....

Disarming a bomb of unknown origin seems futile attempt, more reasonable would still be try and contain the blast, warn other and take sensor reading with tricorder. If theres other devices on board there would be no time to locate them so the best action to do is still for everyone to use escape pod. They have al that is needed for survival or they can dock back if there is no more explosions onboard.

Totally off topic, i was on cruise at sea last weekend. While i when i was sleeping there was a general alarm sounded. Waked up but didnt wake up, i thought i had a dream that i was onboard a starship with redalarm lol. Calmly waited for reason and it was only an alarm for chopper landing but it was still quite exiting :)

[teemuh101275]

I would run as fast as I can and
attempt to seperate the saucer section.
I guess the people outside the saucer section suck. :D

Your name... You did not happen to be malfunctioning binar? Just a joke :)

[DustTheWind]

If I were to change my plan from my current one "page 5" I might consider Hays plan on page "11". I thought he had a pretty good take on it in my opinion. It was entertaining to read all the ideas out there thought guys. keep up the good work.

[TomStryker]

Well....were already screwed anyway. 2 to 1 says most of my crew is gone anyway and what help can you be if you can't help yourself? Once I get out I am sure wherever I go I i wll find a way to establish comms again. Au revoir and eject!

[KlinZha]

Bah, why bother moving it, and why waste time disarming it....just disintegrate the thing..lol

[madragoninja]

What about hopping into the pod and setting a message to play out over the comms, then going back and setting the computer to emit electro magnetic pulses to short circut the detonator or even the timer? Then hop aboard the pod and launch then beam back onto the ship at a different location and begin searching for other devices of an explosive nature.:)

[Delvas]

I'd try to disarm the bomb, it might be the only chance the ship has left.

[Nerdy3.14159265]

How does the bomb sense it's been moved is it a switch on the back if so, what surface is it on? If it's a switch and it's on something I can cut through I would cut it off still on it's surface then put it in the escape pod and launch.

[journeyman]

Hmm. I would launch my escape pod then use the communicator to contact anyone on the ship to warn them there is a time bomb at such and such location. Evacuate! :eek:

[brothersandfriends]

That's a great idea, but maybe you could open a subspace distortion hole with some spare tricolbalt weapons found after the battle, and push the bomb into it with the pod's tractor. :D:D:):)

[journeyman]

I would take the transporter on the Escape Pod and use it to transport the bomb away. Of course I would check it for transport inhibitors, and disable them. ;)

Coolio! Escape pods have transporter in them.

[brothersandfriends]

yes they do

[journeyman]

That's a great idea, but maybe you could open a subspace distortion hole with some spare tricolbalt weapons found after the battle, and push the bomb into it with the pod's tractor. :D:D:):)

That would be really cool. I wonder where the bomb would end up at?

[ussawsomeness]

Your name... You did not happen to be malfunctioning binar? Just a joke :)

my name is the result of frustration from all the "your name is taken"'s:D

[Nerdy3.14159265]

Doesn't anyone remember the part where it said you won't have time to message the ship if you take the escape pod.

[journeyman]

Doesn't anyone remember the part where it said you won't have time to message the ship if you take the escape pod.

OOPS! In that case, since there is no other way of escape except through the escape pod. I would phaser TIME TIME BOMB INSIDE! RUN! on the door. Then seal the door shut with my phaser and warn everyone on the deck to run for cover! :eek:

[PinkSkin]

I think everyone needs to calm down a minute. Have we tried reasoning with the bomb? It might not be mad at any of us! Perhaps it holds some deep resentment towards it's maker, and we can all understand that right? Let's offer it a chance to express itself. Be sensitive to the needs of the bomb.

[Teufelpanzer]

What kind of engineer am i?!?!!!

Guess what im now EOD AKA Engineer which means im qualified to disarm mines, boobytraps, and bombs. I will attempt to disarm the bomb and will succeed because im an expert. GG i saved the day.

Hmmm, good catch - I missed the part about being an engineer. Yes, an engineer should at least try to disarm the bomb. Anyone else in that position should hit the escape pod.

As a smuggler, I would help any nearby female crewmembers and cutlery escape as well. :D

[Teufelpanzer]

I just realized that if you use the escape pod and the ship isn't destroyed someone is going to start wondering if you have a connection to the bomb other than its discovery.

I'm changing my solution to: Shoot the bomb. :cool:

[NX_70982]

Alright, so, you're just a lowly engineer who finds a highly complex bomb on board. You say that the ship was in an all-out dogfight of a battle, so perhaps you were boarded or the device was beamed aboard, or perhaps another possibility it was brought in by a torpedo (like the Kazon did with their hull-spearing sub shuttle).

Moving it is not an option.
Being cowardly by escaping to the hatch is out of the question.
You do not know just how powerful the device is.
You're an engineer, so you think like an engineer.

Open the hatch of the escape pod, and turn your communicator into a remote control, after you set the shield to a narrow beam confining the bomb, placing all power into the shield. Then, with your remote, jettison the escape pod.

With any luck, the pod will be just enough outside by the time the bomb goes off. But, in case it isn't all the way out, that's why you powered the shield.

By the way, you might want to stand back just a ways before you jettison the pod.

[DarkCel]

Well, there's a lot of things in the scenario that seem a bit incongruous.

If you have a few seconds blast the hull open, whatever happens (even if it's a corpse rushing into space) it will make the bridge notice something weird is happening.

If you have a few minutes left try to disarm the bomb or engage the forcefields that would shield the ship from the blast.

[Midori-Nguyen]

Classic!

With the limit in time, the only option i would have is to disarm the bomb; However, the bomb is too complex to totally disarm and doing anything in haste could trigger it. It's the only option though.

Carefully, taking off the bomb's cover, i notice two compartments. One which I recognized from my sophomore year at the Academy; That, was the bombs mixing compartment. It has many wires, each has equal function to set off a chain reaction to mix the bomb's explosive solution. To figure out which wire to cut is a daunting and risky task. I would need to fully examine the bomb with a tricorder, but time does not permit that.

To the right of the mixing compartment, is the housing for the motion sensor. If i could disarm the sensor, I could manually move the bomb to an exit port, such as an escape pod. With prior knowlege of how motion sensor circuits work, I would need to cut off the main lead to the cpu. I do not have the correct tools to sever the lead, though. If the Academy instructors knew i left my tool kit on the turbolift, they would already had failed me.

My only option is to break the main lead. So i held my breath and broke it.

gasp.. I could feel my muscles in my legs fire, as if i was running a 36meter dash at home. At that very moment, for the first time I knew i was ment to be in starfleet. I didnt think about how proud my family and friends would be, I thought about how I could very well save this ship and it's crew.

What seemed to be an eternity, I am able to reach the escape pod. The door's key panel is shot. Manually opening the door, is my only option. I'm able to wedge open the door by using the bomb's flat cover, that i took off a moment earlier. Quickly, glancing at the bomb, I could see the wires and leds firing bright blue. I knew it was about to go off. My time was short. The only way to save this ship was to get on that escape pod and hit the eject button on the main console . .

The Kibayashi Maru scenerio, is not the story of a lose/ lose situation or how a cadet can cheat the ending's fate; However, It's a trial of courage and sacrifice. The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few.

[Tarrin01]

Firstly useing a tricorder, I scan the bomb to see it's structure (metalic or organic) then as i am mainly a science vessel studdying the effects of reprogrammed borg nanites on unpopulated ecosystems (cough cough) i have the computer terminal close by (which i have now supplimented the power of with my phaser) recode the nanites and i place them on the bomb and let them deactivate the bomb for me.
meanwhile, i recode other nanites to track down anyother bombs of the same composition and defuse them, (once done the nanites have been programmed to self destruct, just for safety).

Job done, we now start repairing damaged systems and send a call out to the closest federation ship for assistance.

[Ptahk]

Get a red shirt to disarm it.
Put as much distance between myself and the red shirt as i can.
simples! :D

[mwood1387]

Ask Q for a favour! (Default answer for all KMs)

I'll try to disarm it, I'll respawn if it goes wrong :D

Sensible answer: I'd still give it a go. Running from the bomb to save myself at the expense of the crew is a no no, Klink or Federalli.

[brualros]

well according to the Rules of acquisition "The riskier the road, the greater the profit." so why not go for it? if you disarm it maybe you will get a promotion and if you don't well that sucks.

[mace56617]

You attempt to disarm it and if you percieve that it is about to go off you either attempt to throw it out into the escape pod and then launch the pod or you put as much debris and your body on the bomb to try to absorb as much of the explosion as possible to minimize the damage done to your ship.

[Jermbot]

I'm not rated for bomb disarming, trying is likely to limit the time that we have. Escaping myself is not an option. Take an immediate tricorder reading of the bomb and try to get to a point where ship communication is available.

[cipher_nemo]

I'm not rated for bomb disarming, trying is likely to limit the time that we have. Escaping myself is not an option. Take an immediate tricorder reading of the bomb and try to get to a point where ship communication is available.

FAIL.

You necroed a 4 month old thread.