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connordyer
07-12-2009, 12:49 AM
I was just wondering what your thoughts are. I can't even imagine how this would be a 3rd faction. I mean, there are:

The Founders
The Jem' Hadar
The Vorta
And other Dominion conquered races

Which could you play as? What ships are there to choose? Just wondering your views.:p

funky_jesus
07-12-2009, 12:56 AM
well i guess being the jem hadar would be the most fun as you would be commanding the ships and be doing the fighting planet side, it would probably be a bit boring if you were to be a founder or a vorta as they dont really do that much. the ships used would be thoes in DS9 minus the breen and the cardassians.

renderpix
07-12-2009, 05:20 AM
As I remember the Vorta were the commanders of the vessels and also commanded the Jem' Hadar soldiers so I would be Vorta and most likely use a Jem'Hadar fighter, their cruisers are nice also.

Being able to go up against both Fed and KDF...... nice. :D

Marytha
07-12-2009, 09:12 AM
I'm sure it would work great. I hope the Romulans are first though. I think they deserve it more.

Marytha

ProtoClone
07-13-2009, 03:01 PM
It could be actually kind of cool to have the Dominion as a third faction, or fourth...or whatever.

But I agree, Romulans need to be in this.

Commander_Nate
07-13-2009, 03:31 PM
Well the Dominion was defeated and surrendered at the end of the Dominion War and the DS9 series. Odo went back to the Omarion Nebula (sp?) to show his people the error of their ways like he did with the Female Changeling who was in command of the Dominion forces in the Alpha Quadrant. So basically you have the leaders of the Dominion supposedly entering a new era of enlightenment and understanding and peace and general hippy-ness thanks to Odo. Because of this, it's doubtful the Dominion itself in the Gamma Quadrant would be doing much. Now it's former allies/client states on the other hand...

Cardassia - Is completely in shambles after the war largely thanks to the Dominion. It's basically like post-war Germany was with the UFP, Klingons, and Romulans all sharing responsibility for Cardassian territory and re-building. They are basically a fallen superpower and probably aren't about to do anything to the three powers that just kicked their butts, lest the process repeat itself. There could be some rogue factions however as they have been shown engaged in combat in a few screens and have also been mentioned in The Path To... articles.

Breen - They are basically like Cuba is today or North Korea. They picked the wrong side in the Dominion War and now their powerful benefactor is gone, leaving them alone, much like the Soviet Union disappeared leaving the former two countries high and dry. They are most likely still hostile to the former Alliance powers but again are still in a position of weakness.

Alpha Jem Hedar - We've known they are around and have been mentioned in The Path To... articles. They have rejected the peace treaty as well as Odo's teachings and are basically a faction unto themselves. Being based in the ruins of the Cardassian Empire, I could see them being the source of a lot of trouble in the game.

That's basically a rundown of how I think the Dominion should and will be incorporated into the game. I don't really see them as being a major factor themselves. They definitely shouldn't be at the head of the line to be the next playable faction, if at all.

The Romulans should be the first and soon after launch. Then probably the Cardassians at the same time or shortly thereafter.

Tain
07-13-2009, 04:44 PM
The Dominion is not going to be any different, ideologically, from what we saw in Ds9, unless Odo himself made a difference. The defeat in the alpha quadrant was just that- a defeat in the alpha quadrant. That was only a dominion expeditionary force which was forced to capitulate. The Dominion itself, and its Gamma quadrant base, are going to be as strong as ever. One defeat, of one expedition on the opposite side of the galaxy isn't even going to weaken an empire that has been been spacefaring for thousands of years. Especially not 30 years after the fact.

Commander_Nate
07-13-2009, 05:03 PM
The Dominion is not going to be any different, ideologically, from what we saw in Ds9, unless Odo himself made a difference. The defeat in the alpha quadrant was just that- a defeat in the alpha quadrant. That was only a dominion expeditionary force which was forced to capitulate. The Dominion itself, and its Gamma quadrant base, are going to be as strong as ever. One defeat, of one expedition on the opposite side of the galaxy isn't even going to weaken an empire that has been been spacefaring for thousands of years. Especially not 30 years after the fact.

Yes but Odo went home to the Great Link to "change" them or whatever. I doubt they're as belligerent now.

TruthSeer
07-13-2009, 05:23 PM
Yes but Odo went home to the Great Link to "change" them or whatever. I doubt they're as belligerent now.

Actually according to the Path to's the Alpha Quadrant Jem'Hadar consider Odo a false god and one not worthy to follow. Which I couldn't be happier about, who'd really want to see a Federationized Dominion?

If/When the Dominion is implemented I think that they'd be allied with another power (similar to the Klingons with Orions/Gorn/Nausicaans) which is hopefully the Breen. I really hope the Dominion would get a carrier class like the Klingons are, they seem like the types to use fighters.

And I can't wait to command a Dominion Warship. Also while I can't wait for a Dom faction I think I could live without seeing Changelings as an actual race option, meaning an attempt at recreating the species other than what players make using the character creator and RP with.

Commander_Nate
07-13-2009, 06:27 PM
Actually according to the Path to's the Alpha Quadrant Jem'Hadar consider Odo a false god and one not worthy to follow. Which I couldn't be happier about, who'd really want to see a Federationized Dominion?

If/When the Dominion is implemented I think that they'd be allied with another power (similar to the Klingons with Orions/Gorn/Nausicaans) which is hopefully the Breen. I really hope the Dominion would get a carrier class like the Klingons are, they seem like the types to use fighters.

And I can't wait to command a Dominion Warship. Also while I can't wait for a Dom faction I think I could live without seeing Changelings as an actual race option, meaning an attempt at recreating the species other than what players make using the character creator and RP with.

Yeah but those are just the Alpha Jem Hedar. That's more like a resistance movement or something, not an empire. Besides, the Dominion has no way of getting back to the Alpha Quadrant now with no ally. The Cardassians aren't going to side with them, and between the Klingons, Federation, and Romulans, the Breen probably wouldn't even consider it. The Wormhole is a perfect choke point, which is probably the most favorable defensive situation I can think of. We've all seen 300; now imagine if there were 3 or 4 empires worth of troops behind that choke point. There's no way the Dominion would get through that.

PrimeDirector
07-13-2009, 07:46 PM
I can see at least a few Dominion/Gamma Quadrant missions stemming from the DS9/wormhole location that hopefully will be at launch. The possibilities beyond this are endless, but like others say, Romulans, Borg more likely expansion factions.

But first, the Klingons...

Tain
07-13-2009, 07:57 PM
I can't see conflict with the dominion in the form of another attempted invasion, especially with what the wormhole aliens did to the second Dominion fleet to try to transit it. More than likely they would start a conflict in game terms by having the Dominion picking on some Federation friendly Gamma quadrant race.

gorn29
07-13-2009, 08:15 PM
Well the Dominion was defeated and surrendered at the end of the Dominion War and the DS9 series. Odo went back to the Omarion Nebula (sp?) to show his people the error of their ways like he did with the Female Changeling who was in command of the Dominion forces in the Alpha Quadrant. So basically you have the leaders of the Dominion supposedly entering a new era of enlightenment and understanding and peace and general hippy-ness thanks to Odo. Because of this, it's doubtful the Dominion itself in the Gamma Quadrant would be doing much. Now it's former allies/client states on the other hand...

Cardassia - Is completely in shambles after the war largely thanks to the Dominion. It's basically like post-war Germany was with the UFP, Klingons, and Romulans all sharing responsibility for Cardassian territory and re-building. They are basically a fallen superpower and probably aren't about to do anything to the three powers that just kicked their butts, lest the process repeat itself. There could be some rogue factions however as they have been shown engaged in combat in a few screens and have also been mentioned in The Path To... articles.

Breen - They are basically like Cuba is today or North Korea. They picked the wrong side in the Dominion War and now their powerful benefactor is gone, leaving them alone, much like the Soviet Union disappeared leaving the former two countries high and dry. They are most likely still hostile to the former Alliance powers but again are still in a position of weakness.

Alpha Jem Hedar - We've known they are around and have been mentioned in The Path To... articles. They have rejected the peace treaty as well as Odo's teachings and are basically a faction unto themselves. Being based in the ruins of the Cardassian Empire, I could see them being the source of a lot of trouble in the game.

That's basically a rundown of how I think the Dominion should and will be incorporated into the game. I don't really see them as being a major factor themselves. They definitely shouldn't be at the head of the line to be the next playable faction, if at all.

The Romulans should be the first and soon after launch. Then probably the Cardassians at the same time or shortly thereafter.

Great analys, but I'd compare Cardssia, to post world war 1 Germany. Think about how in only about 20 years Germany was back to being a world power and strong enough to drag the world back into another world war. I'm hoping that if/when they bring in a third Faction it should be a Romulan/Cardssian faction. And under them you could have the Remans/Alph Jem as their supporting powers respectively.

Sorbek
07-13-2009, 08:28 PM
All i know is that they would have to dominate both Klingons and Feds or it's pointless...they are too awesome to be trivialized for the sake of balancing.

Ora
07-14-2009, 03:59 AM
I doubt you could be a founder... how would they handle all that shapshifting stuff, the character creator can only handle bipedal humanoids at the moment.

Sleeping in a bucket doesnt sound much fun either