View Full Version : 8472 + Cardies!
Rav3nous_waffle
06-25-2009, 10:29 PM
Did anyone else notice that one of the new screen shots featured a group of Cardassians fighting a member of species 8472? Do you think 8472 could be the much talked about threat?
I kind of doubt it myself, considering that they are not exactly ancient (or at least our awareness of them isn't). But what do you think?
rjc_foxtrot
06-25-2009, 10:41 PM
I'm not all the way though the series, but Janeway had made the Federation's ideals and attitudes pretty clear I thought on Voyager. Cool that they're around and they'll be a potential adversary, but not as stoked if they were the mentioned threat.
RookActual
06-25-2009, 11:01 PM
I would highly doubt we'll even see such vivid screenshots of the 'ancient threat'.
jer08k2
06-26-2009, 12:00 AM
8472 aren't that big of a threat. I mean yea to the borg but as I recall didn't voyger find a way to easily destroy there ships? I might be wrong though.
BloodShadow
06-26-2009, 12:58 AM
That and the Federation(Voyager) and 8472 became mutual long-term allies.
GeneStarwind
06-26-2009, 12:58 AM
8472 aren't that big of a threat. I mean yea to the borg but as I recall didn't voyger find a way to easily destroy there ships? I might be wrong though.
episode "In the Flesh" where Voyager finds a station containing a disturbingly accurate re-creation of Starfleet Command and Starfleet Academy, which is being used by Species 8472 to prepare for an infiltration of Earth.
in the episode
Captain Janeway managed to convince Species 8472 that the Federation had no hostile intention toward them by giving them their modified nanoprobe warheads in hope that Species 8472 could adapt their vessels in exchange for their techniques on how to look human
so now the federation can detect them if they pretend to be human, but they can no longer easily destroy them
J.L.Picard
06-26-2009, 01:00 AM
simply put no. Cardassians are idiots who believe they are the masters of the universe and can deal with anything, I hope they have started a war with 8472 because it will be the end of them.
KashikoiBaka
06-26-2009, 02:28 AM
episode "In the Flesh" where Voyager finds a station containing a disturbingly accurate re-creation of Starfleet Command and Starfleet Academy, which is being used by Species 8472 to prepare for an infiltration of Earth.
in the episode
Captain Janeway managed to convince Species 8472 that the Federation had no hostile intention toward them by giving them their modified nanoprobe warheads in hope that Species 8472 could adapt their vessels in exchange for their techniques on how to look human
so now the federation can detect them if they pretend to be human, but they can no longer easily destroy them
Janeway only managed to convince a few members of Species 8472, not the whole thing. She made gestures that may lead to peace but that is up to the higher ups and the groundskeeper made no promises that their leaders would even listen.
GeneStarwind
06-26-2009, 02:33 AM
Janeway only managed to convince a few members of Species 8472, not the whole thing. She made gestures that may lead to peace but that is up to the higher ups and the groundskeeper made no promises that their leaders would even listen.
I think you wanted to quote the person above me
since my discussion was about technology to fight Species 8472.
and never saying Janeway negotiate with all of 8472. just in general 8472 where Voyager finds a station containing a disturbingly accurate re-creation of Starfleet Command and Starfleet Academy, which is being used by Species 8472 to prepare for an infiltration of Earth.
p.s.
im a big fan of zone of the Enders:)
nagash303
06-26-2009, 03:11 AM
http://startrekonline.com/screenshots?img=80
why does everybody keeps saying that those are cadassians fighting a 8472 when it does not say so under the screenshot itself?
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Dukat
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Garak
they are definatly missing some specific cardassian face-features, also the viewpoint hides some.
GeneStarwind
06-26-2009, 03:16 AM
http://startrekonline.com/screenshots?img=79
why does everybody keeps saying that those are cadassians fighting a 8472 when it does not say so under the screenshot itself?
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Dukat
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Garak
they are definatly missing some specific cardassian face-features, also the viewpoint hides some.
They're talking about this
http://startrekonline.com/screenshots?img=80
and you can also match it to this "video" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw8mu7hmNQk) that shows a in game Cardassian from the front of his face the clothes and the ears on his side match
nagash303
06-26-2009, 03:36 AM
They're talking about this
http://startrekonline.com/screenshots?img=80
and you can also match it to this "video" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw8mu7hmNQk) that shows a in game Cardassian from the front of his face the clothes and the ears on his side match
kk i corrected the link. oh yes created char for testing and klickydiklick made a screenshot. I'll only accept it as beta version of a Cardassian, because it dont look enuf like one.
GeneStarwind
06-26-2009, 03:45 AM
kk i corrected the link.
hey nagash303 I think you just discovered a error cryptic made with their Cardassian model
look at the video I provided at 24 seconds in, they show the Cardassian. look on the side of his cheeks and then look at the pictures you provided of Dukat, and Garak, they don't have that bone structure on the sides of their face under their ears
Jamisicus6
06-26-2009, 04:42 AM
Did anyone else notice that one of the new screen shots featured a group of Cardassians fighting a member of species 8472? Do you think 8472 could be the much talked about threat?
I kind of doubt it myself, considering that they are not exactly ancient (or at least our awareness of them isn't). But what do you think?
Did anyone else notice that that 8472 was wearing ARMOUR!!!
They never wear armour.
nagash303
06-26-2009, 09:01 AM
hey nagash303 I think you just discovered a error cryptic made with their Cardassian model
look at the video I provided at 24 seconds in, they show the Cardassian. look on the side of his cheeks and then look at the pictures you provided of Dukat, and Garak, they don't have that bone structure on the sides of their face under their ears
Well that was my point. Since we have a char creator, the devs make some random char and play test. It doesnot say Cardassian nor Species 8472 under the screenshot on the frontpage. Obviosly some keep complaining that 8472 dont wear armor, well if it is intended to be one of the 8472 then they have time enuf to change it to the likings of the canon crew.
lol canon crew.
PattonJ007
06-26-2009, 10:49 AM
simply put no. Cardassians are idiots who believe they are the masters of the universe and can deal with anything, I hope they have started a war with 8472 because it will be the end of them.
Haha, someone doesn't like the Cardassians. I like the Cardassians, but they totally got what was coming to them.
RookActual
06-26-2009, 10:51 AM
Haha, someone doesn't like the Cardassians. I like the Cardassians, but they totally got what was coming to them.
Wow, you better not let Napalm see your response. BTW, can't get KM to work on either PCs, the files keep getting corrupted.
Kinjiru
06-26-2009, 10:54 AM
hey nagash303 I think you just discovered a error cryptic made with their Cardassian model
look at the video I provided at 24 seconds in, they show the Cardassian. look on the side of his cheeks and then look at the pictures you provided of Dukat, and Garak, they don't have that bone structure on the sides of their face under their ears
And Klingons magically grew forehead ridges, Gorn are suddenly bigger and meaner, Romulans don't look so much like Vulcans and have weird facial tattoos... The alien species don't have to always look exactly the same from series to movie to book to game. In other words, a Cardassian is a Cardassian if they say it is. :D
PattonJ007
06-26-2009, 10:55 AM
They're talking about this
http://startrekonline.com/screenshots?img=80
I don't care what anyone says ... that is a member of Species 8472 wearing armor and fighting some Cardassians.
Kinjiru
06-26-2009, 10:56 AM
I don't care what anyone says ... that is a member of Species 8472 wearing armor and fighting some Cardassians.
Heh... what if that was a player 8472 fighting NPC Cardassians?
:D
PattonJ007
06-26-2009, 10:58 AM
Heh... what if that was a player 8472 fighting NPC Cardassians?
:D
Then I'm contacting Starfleet Command and requesting some Ablative Hull Armor and Transphasic Torpedoes.
Kinjiru
06-26-2009, 11:10 AM
Then I'm contacting Starfleet Command and requesting some Ablative Hull Armor and Transphasic Torpedoes.
Nah, you don't need all that, you've got comradery, a desire to explore, and a wish to better yourselves and your peers in the galaxy!
lol. :D
KashikoiBaka
06-26-2009, 12:35 PM
I think you wanted to quote the person above me
since my discussion was about technology to fight Species 8472.
and never saying Janeway negotiate with all of 8472. just in general 8472 where Voyager finds a station containing a disturbingly accurate re-creation of Starfleet Command and Starfleet Academy, which is being used by Species 8472 to prepare for an infiltration of Earth.
p.s.
im a big fan of zone of the Enders:)
Nope, you're the one that I wanted to quote, I could clear it up a bit and say that she only convinced a small part of 8472 that they had no hostile intentions but that doesn't mean the other believed her, even with that gesture of good will.
And how do we know species 8472 doesn't wear armor? The only ones that the STO Universe have dealt with are those that are in the form of Humans or those who are pilots of a ship. We know nothing of their actual soldiers and if our technology got to a point where it was more dangerous to their health, then its feasible that, if they didn't already have armor then, they would have developed armor.
Intrepid_Piscean
06-26-2009, 02:02 PM
simply put no. Cardassians are idiots who believe they are the masters of the universe and can deal with anything, I hope they have started a war with 8472 because it will be the end of them.
I Love It.
AtomicNerd
06-26-2009, 03:06 PM
Heh... what if that was a player 8472 fighting NPC Cardassians?
:D
No none humanoid / non bipedal player characters “at launch”
Paulo999
06-26-2009, 03:09 PM
8472 aren't that big of a threat. I mean yea to the borg but as I recall didn't voyger find a way to easily destroy there ships? I might be wrong though.
yeah.. then gave them the technology..
Paulo999
06-26-2009, 03:10 PM
Heh... what if that was a player 8472 fighting NPC Cardassians?
:D
then i would be jumping around with joy shotgunning the name sheeba for my 8472 character :D
Kinjiru
06-26-2009, 03:23 PM
No none humanoid / non bipedal player characters “at launch”
lol, I know, it was a joke. :)
AtomicNerd
06-26-2009, 04:58 PM
lol, I know, it was a joke. :)
Oh oops. It’s kind of hard to tell with some of the things people post that they’re dead serious about.