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STO
06-25-2009, 02:17 PM
I was trying to figure out what the new ship release is going to be. Craig had said "kinda" when he was asked if it was going to be a Romulan ship... Thus I think it will be a drum roll please.... a Vulcan ship :)

This is the one I think they are making, it was first made for the previous development team:

http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/large-vulcan-2.jpg?w=654&h=333

my guess is that they will call it "RetroFitted Dorsal Carrier, D'Kyr variant" or something like that

TruthSeer
06-25-2009, 02:21 PM
I was trying to figure out what the new ship release is going to be. Craig had said "kinda" when he was asked if it was going to be a Romulan ship... Thus I think it will be a drum roll please.... a Vulcan ship :)

When, where was this?

walker555
06-25-2009, 02:26 PM
I am equally perplexxed, I dont remember seeing anything about a new ship.

Gerrard
06-25-2009, 02:31 PM
Well, what you have there is definitely Vulcan. But I'm somewhat doubtful that they will go back to earlier content from the last company at this stage of the game. I'll put pretty good money that they took what they wanted to salvage from that developement at the beginning and scrapped the rest.

Kinjiru
06-25-2009, 02:36 PM
Also to stir up the pot, Rekhan mentioned on Twitter that a new Ship of the Line is coming today. :)

justynhuculak
06-25-2009, 02:44 PM
Also to stir up the pot, Rekhan mentioned on Twitter that a new Ship of the Line is coming today. :)

To mimic Trebort:

That makes me moist.

STO
06-25-2009, 02:53 PM
<CrypticZinc> Next ship update is gonna cool.

* <Highcommander> Sweet Craig, any chance it's a Romulan ship?

<CrypticZinc> <Highcommander> Kinda.

from - http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=592696#post592696

USS_Parallax
06-25-2009, 02:55 PM
Revealed ships aren't for sure playable. It could be anything. Maybe it's Reman? Maybe the Remans are with the Klingons? Could be anything.

If it's truly a Vulcan ship I would doubt it would be anything but a civilian NPC ship then. The Vulcans are pretty darned entrenched with Starfleet. I would doubt they'd have significantly powerful Vulan ships.

STO
06-25-2009, 02:59 PM
Revealed ships aren't for sure playable. It could be anything. Maybe it's Reman? Maybe the Remans are with the Klingons? Could be anything.

If it's truly a Vulcan ship I would doubt it would be anything but a civilian NPC ship then. The Vulcans are pretty darned entrenched with Starfleet. I would doubt they'd have significantly powerful Vulan ships.

actually Vulcan ships are very powerful in the shows / movies. They have enhanced shields and power cores/warp cores. The only difference is that there are not a lot of their military ships, most are science vessels. It does appear the the Alpha Quad is entering a time of turbulence and likely they will be making ships to keep their interests safe. Don't forget that Vulcans made warp / interstellar ships long before earth did, their technology is a bit more advanced then many of the species in the Alpha quad.

evan.is.weyoun
06-25-2009, 03:28 PM
How could you have a Vulcan ship that you could use? All Starfleet vessels are STARFLEET vessels, no Vulcan ship designs. Though it sure would be cool. Never could figure out why Starfleet never used Vulcan ships or Andorian or Tellarite ships considering they are also founding members of the Federation. They only chose to use Earth ships as the basis for design.

Ontas
06-25-2009, 03:29 PM
It would be very interesting to see Vulcan ships included in the game as playable vessels for the Starfleet faction. Further, it would get me wondering if maybe there might be some other classic Federation races with their own ship classes represented... maybe we might even see one or two Andorian vessels? ;)

Either way, I'm certainly not counting on any of this since it's all speculation at this point, but if they did update the Kumari (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Kumari)-type for the 25th century... well... I might just be tempted away from the traditional Starfleet style for my own vessel.

Never could figure out why Starfleet never used Vulcan ships or Andorian or Tellarite ships considering they are also founding members of the Federation. They only chose to use Earth ships as the basis for design.

Agreed, it does seem a bit odd. I was rather disappointed by the ship designs in Enterprise from the get-go. I thought it would be more interesting if we saw some familiar "modern Starfleet" design elements present in Earth Starfleet, Vulcan, Andorian, and Tellarite ships, which you could then imagine being integrated into a singular, unified, Federation Starfleet design style.

BreachAndClear
06-25-2009, 03:32 PM
I'm still waiting to see a Nausicaan ship :D

Spire
06-25-2009, 03:32 PM
If it's not a Klingon ship there's going to be a Klingon riot. I'll be passing out the torches, any volunteers to pass out pitchforks?

But really, we need a Klingon ship update. I'm dying to see what the carriers are like.

walker555
06-25-2009, 03:34 PM
id like to see vulcan ships in the game. I made a thread about speices specific ships months ago, and the concensus was that if they were in the game they would be NPCs. However, like I said I would like to see them. The vulcan ships from ENT looks rather cool, and were of a different design element than we normaly see in Star Trek.

BreachAndClear
06-25-2009, 03:39 PM
id like to see vulcan ships in the game. I made a thread about speices specific ships months ago, and the concensus was that if they were in the game they would be NPCs. However, like I said I would like to see them. The vulcan ships from ENT looks rather cool, and were of a different design element than we normaly see in Star Trek.

I'm pretty sure species specific ships were confirmed for the Orion, Nausicaans, and Gorn (and I figure this is a means by which to buffer the discrepancy between the number of known Federation and Klingon ships).

Now whether or not a Klingon can fly a Nausicaan ship, I don't know.

USS_Parallax
06-25-2009, 03:44 PM
actually Vulcan ships are very powerful in the shows / movies. They have enhanced shields and power cores/warp cores. The only difference is that there are not a lot of their military ships, most are science vessels. It does appear the the Alpha Quad is entering a time of turbulence and likely they will be making ships to keep their interests safe. Don't forget that Vulcans made warp / interstellar ships long before earth did, their technology is a bit more advanced then many of the species in the Alpha quad.

What the crap are you talking about? Vulcan ships in movies and shows? The only place where a significant Vulcan ship appeared is Enterprise. NOTHING else. And when they made the Federation they seemingly put the resources that used to be for those big powerful ships to Starfleet. They use Starfleet ships now.


How could you have a Vulcan ship that you could use? All Starfleet vessels are STARFLEET vessels, no Vulcan ship designs. Though it sure would be cool. Never could figure out why Starfleet never used Vulcan ships or Andorian or Tellarite ships considering they are also founding members of the Federation. They only chose to use Earth ships as the basis for design.


Starfleet ships ARE NOT Earth ships. The ships we see in TOS, TNG, etc are from a combined effort from Vulcans, Andorians and all Federation races. They're made from all techs. It just so happens that they're hulls look of a human design (I blame Enterprise for making a ship that makes no sense).

pacejohntom
06-25-2009, 03:49 PM
actually Vulcan ships are very powerful in the shows / movies. They have enhanced shields and power cores/warp cores. The only difference is that there are not a lot of their military ships, most are science vessels. It does appear the the Alpha Quad is entering a time of turbulence and likely they will be making ships to keep their interests safe. Don't forget that Vulcans made warp / interstellar ships long before earth did, their technology is a bit more advanced then many of the species in the Alpha quad.

I think you are referring to ENT, but that was before the Federation was founded. Once Starfleet was formed, Federation members shared their technology. That's why Starfleet ships aren't "human" ships, but Federation ships, or a combination of human, vulcan, andorian etc tech.


Edit: Ah, Parallax, you beat me!

47Wasps
06-25-2009, 04:47 PM
Well,there was a warp shuttle in TMP.
And Vulcan transports in TNG.

So the only ships of Vulcan origin we've seen outside of ENT weren't cruisers or anything of that sort;instead,they were transportation ships.

USS_Parallax
06-25-2009, 04:56 PM
Well,there was a warp shuttle in TMP.
And Vulcan transports in TNG.

So the only ships of Vulcan origin we've seen outside of ENT weren't cruisers or anything of that sort;instead,they were transportation ships.



I would assume the civilian ships carry a similar design to their original cultural ship designs before joining the Federation. You might see very Vulcan ships flying around but I doubt they'd be much in a fight since the resources that would normally go into their military now go into Starfleet.

However as time goes on I doubt even then we'd see much difference as the technology is now fully shared between them. The difference might just be similar to the looks of cars in America compared to Europe (some the same, some similar and obviously a car but a different design).

STO
06-25-2009, 06:13 PM
I would assume the civilian ships carry a similar design to their original cultural ship designs before joining the Federation. You might see very Vulcan ships flying around but I doubt they'd be much in a fight since the resources that would normally go into their military now go into Starfleet.

However as time goes on I doubt even then we'd see much difference as the technology is now fully shared between them. The difference might just be similar to the looks of cars in America compared to Europe (some the same, some similar and obviously a car but a different design).

another silly comment from you :) It would be crazy to assume that just because Vulcan is a member of the Federation they no longer design Vulcan ships that are independent of SF designs.

rjc_foxtrot
06-25-2009, 06:21 PM
There's a recon photo thingamajig up it looks like. The ship there looks like a Valdore got punched in the nose.

DanSeale
06-25-2009, 06:22 PM
I was trying to figure out what the new ship release is going to be. Craig had said "kinda" when he was asked if it was going to be a Romulan ship... Thus I think it will be a drum roll please.... a Vulcan ship :)

This is the one I think they are making, it was first made for the previous development team:

http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/large-vulcan-2.jpg?w=654&h=333

my guess is that they will call it "RetroFitted Dorsal Carrier, D'Kyr variant" or something like that

Reminds me of the Vulcan "ring ship" designs. Obviously an advanced version .. but definatly could be Vulcan.

47Wasps
06-25-2009, 06:25 PM
http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/large-vulcan-2.jpg?w=654&h=333

my guess is that they will call it "RetroFitted Dorsal Carrier, D'Kyr variant" or something like that

I would much rather have seen that ship then what was shown this SOTL.
I am a fan of John Eaves' starship design,and I think that ship would make a fine addition to STO,even if she wasn't playable.

Angelphoenix12
06-25-2009, 07:11 PM
If it's not a Klingon ship there's going to be a Klingon riot. I'll be passing out the torches, any volunteers to pass out pitchforks?

But really, we need a Klingon ship update. I'm dying to see what the carriers are like.

id love to see what the carrier looks like. i bet it will be well worth the wait :D

TruthSeer
06-25-2009, 07:30 PM
id love to see what the carrier looks like. i bet it will be well worth the wait :D

Here, here.

I'm really hoping this class comes out nice, other than the Bird of Prey (any variation) the carrier class is the only real draw for me in regards to the Klingons.

Aerelleus
06-25-2009, 10:11 PM
if thats the new ship of the line update im dissapointed. i mean seriously a blurry recon pic? I would rather see a new klingon design. enough of the vulcan/romulan/borg weird mess. wait till that exspansion comes out then hype it up. as our good friend Christopher Walken would say : More Klingon! (bell)

Rivaris
06-25-2009, 10:40 PM
if thats the new ship of the line update im dissapointed. i mean seriously a blurry recon pic? I would rather see a new klingon design. enough of the vulcan/romulan/borg weird mess. wait till that exspansion comes out then hype it up. as our good friend Christopher Walken would say : More Klingon! (bell)

be dissapionted it seems to be the new ship of the line.

Aerelleus
06-25-2009, 10:52 PM
well....welll.. RAT FARTS!!!!! lol

Azurian
06-25-2009, 11:02 PM
Reminds me of the Vulcan "ring ship" designs. Obviously an advanced version .. but definatly could be Vulcan.

It is Vulcan, Buzzard. That design was one of the Vulcan varients that was for Perpetual's STO. ;)

Marytha
06-26-2009, 04:42 AM
if thats the new ship of the line update im dissapointed. i mean seriously a blurry recon pic? I would rather see a new klingon design. enough of the vulcan/romulan/borg weird mess. wait till that exspansion comes out then hype it up. as our good friend Christopher Walken would say : More Klingon! (bell)

I agree they released a ship of the line, without releasing a ship of the line. Most say it's Romulan, a factin that is supposedly not playable. They did say Klingons are half this game, right?

Marytha

DanSeale
06-26-2009, 05:21 AM
It is Vulcan, Buzzard. That design was one of the Vulcan varients that was for Perpetual's STO. ;)

hehehe

I like it a lot ... excellent work (who ever did the design)

lvjayman
06-26-2009, 05:24 PM
Could the blurry recon pic be a Scimitar class, it has those long wings that the Scimitar had in Nemesis.

Zepath
06-26-2009, 05:29 PM
How could you have a Vulcan ship that you could use? All Starfleet vessels are STARFLEET vessels, no Vulcan ship designs. Though it sure would be cool. Never could figure out why Starfleet never used Vulcan ships or Andorian or Tellarite ships considering they are also founding members of the Federation. They only chose to use Earth ships as the basis for design.

You telling me that I won't be able to have an epic space fight, then beam a boarding party over, take over his ship, and make it mine????????

Oh snap ... cancel my preorder.

/sarcasm off

erriku
06-26-2009, 07:33 PM
I was trying to figure out what the new ship release is going to be. Craig had said "kinda" when he was asked if it was going to be a Romulan ship... Thus I think it will be a drum roll please.... a Vulcan ship :)

This is the one I think they are making, it was first made for the previous development team:

http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/large-vulcan-2.jpg?w=654&h=333

my guess is that they will call it "RetroFitted Dorsal Carrier, D'Kyr variant" or something like that

It is certainly Vulcan. Here is the original page:

http://johneaves.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/more-vulcans-from-the-perpetual-files/

Azurian
06-26-2009, 11:21 PM
hehehe

I like it a lot ... excellent work (who ever did the design)

John Eaves. :D