Admiral Katherine Janeyway

[R1B5]

I have already asked this as an addition to another post, but here goes.

I know it was an alternate reality, but is there any chance that Katherine Janeway is an Admiral at the time of STO. I don't know about you guys, but I's love to have an assignment given to me by Admiral Katherine Janeway voiced by Kate Mulgrew.

[spiderdude1]

Its possible that she is still an admiral at the same time as STO. I surely hope so.

[RookActual]

She would more likely be a Lieutenant Commander or Commander than an Admiral, or even, oddly, a Captain. She didn't report for duty for like 7 years, so I'd have to imagine, considering her unauthorized absences, she's been demoted heavily.

[Burchenall]

I know it was an alternate reality, but is there any chance that Katherine Janeway is an Admiral at the time of STO. I don't know about you guys, but I's love to have an assignment given to me by Admiral Katherine Janeway voiced by Kate Mulgrew.
Janeway appears as an admiral in Star Trek Nemesis, I'd love seeing her assigning some missions ingame too, but Cryptic already said that most of the characters won't be ingame due to the advanced timeline STO takes place in :(

She would more likely be a Lieutenant Commander or Commander than an Admiral, or even, oddly, a Captain. She didn't report for duty for like 7 years, so I'd have to imagine, considering her unauthorized absences, she's been demoted heavily. LOL

Yeah, she's probably in the brig for that by now xD

[spiderdude1]

She would more likely be a Lieutenant Commander or Commander than an Admiral, or even, oddly, a Captain. She didn't report for duty for like 7 years, so I'd have to imagine, considering her unauthorized absences, she's been demoted heavily.

No she hasn't. In the movie Star Trek Nemesis, she was ranked admiral.

[RookActual]

No she hasn't. In the movie Star Trek Nemesis, she was ranked admiral.

Humor really isn't lost on you, is it? :rolleyes:

[AtomicNerd]

No she hasn't. In the movie Star Trek Nemesis, she was ranked admiral.

I think she was a vice-admiral in nemesis.

[Burchenall]

I think she was a vice-admiral in nemesis.
Sort of :D

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8181/screenshotlvg.jpg

[LordDave]

Short answer: No.
Everyone you know and love is either retired or dead by 2409.

[AtomicNerd]

Sort of :D

http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/8181/screenshotlvg.jpg

And yet…

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Kathryn_Janeway#Later_Career

“Upon the return of Voyager to the Alpha Quadrant, Janeway was promoted to the rank of Vice Admiral and given an assignment at Starfleet Command. In 2379, she ordered the USS Enterprise-E to Romulus, a message relayed at a request of the new Romulan Praetor, Shinzon. (Star Trek Nemesis)”

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Vice_Admiral


Does anyone have some of the dialog from the scene? (like from imdb or some equivalent?) Someone had to say what her rank was for the purpose of exposition.

[Caulintir]

I beleive Picard greets her with "Ah, Admiral Janeway"

obviously, VA is shortened in this case.

[Loekii]

Short answer: No.
Everyone you know and love is either retired or dead by 2409.

I would disagree. Its only a 31 year spread from the end of Voyage to 2409, so the Twenty somethings and under would still be serving in Starfleet (assuming that 65 was the retirement age in 2409 --- which it could actually be up closer to 80 ish).

[AtomicNerd]

I beleive Picard greets her with "Ah, Admiral Janeway"

obviously, VA is shortened in this case.

Generally I’ll take Picard’s words over some wiki page any day but Memory-alpha (and also beta in this case) is usually pretty quick to clip any debatable entries.

But she’s called “Admiral Janeway” in The Path to 2409: 2385 supplemental Log so that’s good enough for me either way.

[Arix]

I would disagree. Its only a 31 year spread from the end of Voyage to 2409, so the Twenty somethings and under would still be serving in Starfleet (assuming that 65 was the retirement age in 2409 --- which it could actually be up closer to 80 ish).

Following this line of thinking, its much more likely that we'll see Admiral Harry Kim than Admiral Janeway. :D

However, people in the Star Trek universe tend to live a lot longer (because of all the medical advances) so maybe seeing some of the middle aged characters wouldn't be too implausible - but many would probably be retired. And some characters have species that are already long-lived - so I'd hope to see Data or Guinan from TNG, Odo, Ezri Dax (hopefully as Captain of the Aventine) and Jake Sisko (hopefully married to Korena) from DS9, and Harry Kim, Tuvok and the Doctor from Voyager. If not more of the others...

I also think it'd be awesome to come across the children of some of the characters, all grown up. Molly and Kirayoshi O'Brien, Sisko's child (Spoiler: who in the books is a little girl named Rebecca), Miral Paris, Worf's son (mentioned in the latest Path to 2409) - and it'd be even better if they included some of the children mentioned in the books (Spoiler: Like Picard and Beverly's son or Riker and Troi's daughter).

[Burchenall]

I think Lord Dave's "short answer" just was quoting the sentence that we have read from Cryptic in some interviews.

Almost everyone of us thinks that most of the ST characters live and remain in Starfleet by that timeline.

[TruthSeer]

I beleive Picard greets her with "Ah, Admiral Janeway"

obviously, VA is shortened in this case.

I agree, in the series when ever a Rear Admiral is addressed it is always done so as "Admiral".

[donhackle]

I hated how she greeted Captain Picard like they were old friends... calling him Jean-Luc... not every Captain and Admiral are on a first name basis with each other.

I think John Logan (writer of Nemesis) was trying to make the scene chummy and illustrate some sort of casual relationship between the two... but it didn't work for me... came across odd. IMHO anyway...:)

[knightofhyrule730]

DEATH TO JANEWAY.

[RookActual]

I agree, in the series when ever a Rear Admiral is addressed it is always done so as "Admiral".

This is pretty true in reality, too. Generals and Admirals are usually referred to as such with the exception of more formal situations.

[LebowskyBob]

I have already asked this as an addition to another post, but here goes.

I know it was an alternate reality, but is there any chance that Katherine Janeway is an Admiral at the time of STO. I don't know about you guys, but I's love to have an assignment given to me by Admiral Katherine Janeway voiced by Kate Mulgrew.

Um...Janeway was an admiral as of Nemesis, she's the one who gave Picard the order to go to Romulus to meet with Shinzon.

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

Well if any Admiral could give us instructions im sure most of us would love them from her.

She acomplished more as a Captain then nay other, Mapping an entire Qaudrant and making first contact with hundreds of species and gaining Technology and advancements that will make everyones ships in STO much more advanced and formidable !

and She would still be in the game considering 2374 she was lost the game may be based 50 years later, She may be a lot older than we lovingly remember her but it would take a lot to stop that woman especialy with the EMH as her devoted friend and Doctor.

Lets all hope :D
It would be pretty awesome with any inputes from Admiral Janeway

(Lets also hope there are Intrepid class vessels as well as the Tahoe, as so many of us want one in our collection including my self)

[TavisMacRaith]

No she hasn't. In the movie Star Trek Nemesis, she was ranked admiral.

I dunno about you, but I sure as hell would be! Picard's been offered the admiral position several times and declined; after being pulled so far from home, loosing so many of her crew, loosing her boyfriend, her dog AND her dog's puppies, I'm not surprised she'd go fro a frikkin desk job! I wouldn't wanna leave Earth's solar system for at least a few years after an experience like Voyager had! :p

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

She was a young Captian and in an episode it was told that her relatives well outlives 100 so im pretty sure she will also !!

Fingers crossed the game dev's will think of this and they will know how many of us would love it !

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I dunno about you, but I sure as hell would be! Picard's been offered the admiral position several times and declined; after being pulled so far from home, loosing so many of her crew, loosing her boyfriend, her dog AND her dog's puppies, I'm not surprised she'd go fro a frikkin desk job! I wouldn't wanna leave Earth's solar system for at least a few years after an experience like Voyager had! :p

Well Said Captain Tavis

[Allerka]

However, people in the Star Trek universe tend to live a lot longer (because of all the medical advances) so maybe seeing some of the middle aged characters wouldn't be too implausible - but many would probably be retired.
Yup. Picard is pushing 80 by the time Nemesis takes place, obviously he only looks about 50-60, and he STILL serves in Starfleet for a few more years after that before they kick him out.

But yeah. At least a couple cameos from various characters we already know would be cool. We know at least Data is still in Starfleet by that time (or I assume so, anyway, given his being effectively immortal).

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

Yup. Picard is pushing 80 by the time Nemesis takes place, obviously he only looks about 50-60, and he STILL serves in Starfleet for a few more years after that before they kick him out.

But yeah. At least a couple cameos from various characters we already know would be cool. We know at least Data is still in Starfleet by that time (or I assume so, anyway, given his being effectively immortal).

It was suggested B4 did indeed take up Datas complete memory core and become Data but we cant be certain that the Android got more than a song and a whistle from him lol but you never know, maybe well see him on a mission in game lol

[knightofhyrule730]

It was suggested B4 did indeed take up Datas complete memory core and become Data but we cant be certain that the Android got more than a song and a whistle from him lol but you never know, maybe well see him on a mission in game lol

well seeing as hes the captain of the enterprise now, id be very surprised if we did not see him for some quests.

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

well seeing as hes the captain of the enterprise now, id be very surprised if we did not see him for some quests.

wow

howd i miss that lol

<looks at my Double vodka redbull then decides to stop drinking for a bit>

[Archangelwoghd]

Short answer: No.
Everyone you know and love is either retired or dead by 2409.


Quoted for brutal truth...

[Skud]

at least Wesley Crusher will still be alive

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

Quoted for brutal truth...

from 2374 to 2409 you would not be dead, greyhaired and wiser may be !

alas he does not know all things as neither do i as i proved even tho he may know a lot about most of them

[CaptainTy]

Personally, I think Janeway is still alive. I mean, come on guys, The Woman KICKED BUTT! She an;t gonna die of old age without a fight! :)

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

Personally, I think Janeway is still alive. I mean, come on guys, The Woman KICKED BUTT! She an;t gonna die of old age without a fight! :)

Well said,

She hasnt fought off the Borg, The Hirogen, The Kazon, The Vidians, The Krenim Imperiam, Klingons, Rougue Federation, Female Caretakers, Void Pirates, 8472, the Caatati, The Vaaqwaur, prototype Robots and sentient Nebula Demons (just to name a few) to die early !

If any Federation person in History would live a long life, its that Incredible Woman :)

And Remember Coffee gets her through most things (its an EMH blend - with Talaxian spices lol)

[Azurian]

Personally, I think Janeway is still alive. I mean, come on guys, The Woman KICKED BUTT! She an;t gonna die of old age without a fight! :)

Janeway was killed fighting the Borg in 2380 in the Novel "Before Dishonor". ( But she supposedly was saved by Female Q.)

Was somewhat touched upon in the 2385 Supplement (The 7 of 9 Interview).

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

Janeway was killed fighting the Borg in 2380 in the Novel "Before Dishonor". But she supposedly was saved by Female Q.

Ha again she proves she cant be kept down !!

Great stuff !! <thanks Female Q>

[Caulintir]

Novels (Unless stated) are not canon.

[Meehile]

Short answer: No.
Everyone you know and love is either retired or dead by 2409.

Why wouldn't somebody like Tuvok still be around? Or the docor EMH? Or Dax in fresh host body?

[Meehile]

Novels (Unless stated) are not canon.

Yep, and there is good reason for that. Just look at the ******* creation Yuuzon Vong (or however the hell its spelled) polluting Star Wars. I'm not the biggest fan of George Lucas, but he made the right call to separate what he does as canon from the expanded universe non canon alternates.

Another reason for this is to keep the creators of the material from being stuck keeping track of every book, comic, game, or whatever should they wish to make another movie.

[Azurian]

Novels (Unless stated) are not canon.

Illogical reasoning. The Devs said they were using the Novels for storyline ideas. And as I previously pointed out, the 7 of 9 interview talks about that story. So it's already STO canon.

Yep, and there is good reason for that. Just look at the ******* creation Yuuzon Vong (or however the hell its spelled) polluting Star Wars. I'm not the biggest fan of George Lucas, but he made the right call to separate what he does as canon from the expanded universe non canon alternates.

Another reason for this is to keep the creators of the material from being stuck keeping track of every book, comic, game, or whatever should they wish to make another movie.

Hate to tell you, but George Lucas approves everything related to Star Wars, including the Novels. But he can easily overwrite it at his whim.

[Arsinoe]

at least Wesley Crusher will still be alive

Lets hope the Klingons can take care of it. :D

[Altoholic]

Wesley's Q, so sure he'll be still alive.

Or doesn't anyone remember him leaving everything to learn from the Traveler? And since he removed himself from time, I don't see why he wouldn't go back and try to help Picard learn what he did. Not the same as the original Q, but the one that was after Q was punished for interfering again.

What? Don't look at me like that.

*flees*

[the_reaper87]

Is everyone forgetting you that last episode of Voyager, you know the one were Vice Admiral Janeway travelled back through time, you know from the future, specifically 2404. Everyone was still fit and healthy, well almost everyone.

I'm sure if they haven't gotten them selves kill by 2409, they should still be alive in STO.

[jediknight2k1]

Is everyone forgetting you that last episode of Voyager, you know the one were Vice Admiral Janeway travelled back through time, you know from the future, specifically 2404. Everyone was still fit and healthy, well almost everyone.

I'm sure if they haven't gotten them selves kill by 2409, they should still be alive in STO.

That event also created an alternate timeline. Since she travelled back in time then Voyagers history was altered.

Janeway is probably still around in STO and humans tend to live longer in Roddenberys world.

[ransomwk]

DEATH TO JANEWAY.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!


I never liked her either.

[SirReginaldo]

It was interesting to have a strong female character, and their will probably be other female characters with a strength of will and integrity like Jane Way:D

[the_reaper87]

That event also created an alternate timeline. Since she travelled back in time then Voyagers history was altered.

Janeway is probably still around in STO and humans tend to live longer in Roddenberys world.

That's what I'm saying, if there still around then even though it took them longer to get home in that timeline. Unless they did something silly and got them selves killed in this timeline, there is no reason why they aren't around come STO.

[Time-Lord]

Janeway is bound to be in the game. How old would she be 75? 85?

Everyone lives longer in Star Trek.

Perfect example, McCoy. TNG Encounter at Farpoint (Pilot) Data is escourting McCoy around the ship, i think McCoy is like 120 something.

On a side note, i love that episode, when McCoy calls Data a Vulcan. Best insult ever. lol

[Arsinoe]

I'd be surprised to see them, i seem to recal the Devs saying once most characters would have passed away. (To tired to go dig it up though)

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

Janeway is bound to be in the game. How old would she be 75? 85?

Everyone lives longer in Star Trek.

Perfect example, McCoy. TNG Encounter at Farpoint (Pilot) Data is escourting McCoy around the ship, i think McCoy is like 120 something.

On a side note, i love that episode, when McCoy calls Data a Vulcan. Best insult ever. lol



Yes even time cant kep that lady down ! :D

[erriku]

Short answer: No.
Everyone you know and love is either retired or dead by 2409.

I hope Picard decided to retire to Ba'ku with Anij. It is just a personal wish of mine.

[erriku]

at least Wesley Crusher will still be alive

Why haven't they killed him yet?

[knightofhyrule730]

Why haven't they killed him yet?

oh didnt you hear? its a quest in STO for the klingons.

:3

[erriku]

oh didnt you hear? its a quest in STO for the klingons.

:3

The Klingon faction just won me over.

[Allerka]

I hope Picard decided to retire to Ba'ku with Anij. It is just a personal wish of mine.
Well, as of right now, he's still the Ambassador to Vulcan, so... Plus there's various non-canon sources that have him getting married to Dr. Crusher (probably based on the implications they do from the finale of TNG).


The Klingon faction just won me over.
Ha ha ha ha!

Yeah... hopefully he's still off with the Traveler, never to be seen. Though I never did find him more than mildly irritating...

[JMD10222]

Janeway was killed fighting the Borg in 2380 in the Novel "Before Dishonor". ( But she supposedly was saved by Female Q.)

Was somewhat touched upon in the 2385 Supplement (The 7 of 9 Interview).



Not trying to start an argument here, but where do you see them using anything from "Before Dishonor" there? I have read all the ST books including the Voyager,Titan, and Next Gen books and know what happened in them, and they seem to be ignoring them almost completely so far. In the 2385 supplemental Seven says "the Borg are far wider spread and have contingency plans dating back to before humanity achieved warp speed" which completely contradicts the Destiny Novels. I read it 3 times and I do not see Janeway's death mention or even hinted at all.

[Azurian]

Hey, I'm not going to argue the contraditions in novels, that's something between those authors.

Anyhow, 7 of 9 was involved with the rescue of Janeway from the Borg incursion of 2380, and not the one that was mentioned in the Titan series. Which was the event that was mentioned in the 2385 supplement.

If you don't want to believe it, then that's your right. However, you better contact Jorg at Memory Alpha and tell him his sources are wrong.

[JMD10222]

Hey, I'm not going to argue the contraditions in novels, that's something between those authors.

Anyhow, 7 of 9 was involved with the rescue of Janeway from the Borg incursion of 2380, and not the one that was mentioned in the Titan series. Which was the event that was mentioned in the 2385 supplement.

If you don't want to believe it, then that's your right. However, you better contact Jorg at Memory Alpha and tell him his sources are wrong.


LOL I agree Trek and contradiction go together, but the rescue(attempt) was not mentioned in the 2385 supplemental, just the destruction of the Trans-warp hub in the last episode of Voyager "Endgame".;)

[Azurian]

LOL I agree Trek and contradiction go together, but the rescue(attempt) was not mentioned in the 2385 supplemental, just the destruction of the Trans-warp hub in the last episode of Voyager "Endgame".;)

As I said, if you don't want to believe it, then you don't believe it. :p

But if the Devs wanted to reduce some of the faces of the TNG cast, then their deaths in the novels only makes all the more sense. After all they took the events in the Countdown comic, and they are not considered non-canon.

[knightofhyrule730]

well...as for her death, if it happened in 2380 in the book...and we are at 2385 in the updates...id have to assume that she is unfortunately still alive.

lets all drink tea and talk with our enemies right before the put torpedoes into our bow in celebration!

[Caulintir]

Illogical reasoning. The Devs said they were using the Novels for storyline ideas. And as I previously pointed out, the 7 of 9 interview talks about that story. So it's already STO canon.

By that reasoning, earth also had the borg nanoprobe infestation, if this occured, it makes the scrapping of the anti-borg programmes completely ridiculous, no?

Using the novels for IDEAS and having them as CANON are two completely different concepts, so how is my statement illogical reasoning? Its merely pointing out just because someone wrote it, and you think there is some reference to it, doesnt mean it happened.

The only reference I see is to the Episode Endgame. Where Voyager collapses the hub on the way home.

[exracon]

I seem to distinctly remember Zinc saying that they would be taking "Resistance", "Before Dishonor", and "Greater than the sum" into account for the game.

If this is true, then Janeway is dead

[Azurian]

^ I forgot about that. Case closed! ;)

By that reasoning, earth also had the borg nanoprobe infestation, if this occured, it makes the scrapping of the anti-borg programmes completely ridiculous, no?

Using the novels for IDEAS and having them as CANON are two completely different concepts, so how is my statement illogical reasoning? Its merely pointing out just because someone wrote it, and you think there is some reference to it, doesnt mean it happened.

The only reference I see is to the Episode Endgame. Where Voyager collapses the hub on the way home.

And do tell us which Star Trek Novel had that so called nanoprobe infestation on Earth? Because I don't recall any novel dealing with such a plot.

As for canonity, I'm not going to sit here all night arguing with you what's canon or not. The Devs said they are using the Novels for ideas, and they don't exactly have the liberty to tell us which books are canon and which are not. So if you want to believe it was Endgame then fine, that's your opinion.

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I seem to distinctly remember Zinc saying that they would be taking "Resistance", "Before Dishonor", and "Greater than the sum" into account for the game.

If this is true, then Janeway is dead

Janeway was saved by female Q so your mistaken

[Caulintir]

Its not "beleiving" that it was Endgame, it <was> Endgame, have you not seen it?

As for the novel - http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Homecoming and its followup. I certainly would take "ideas" from this novel, ie: some stuff that happens when they come home, but the nanoprobe thing was silly.

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

Its not "beleiving" that it was Endgame, it <was> Endgame, have you not seen it?

As for the novel - http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Homecoming and its followup. I certainly would take "ideas" from this novel, ie: some stuff that happens when they come home, but the nanoprobe thing was silly.

Well yer theres certianly interesting points but Janeway is very much alive and well and still Drinking Coffee Black as an Admirable with Starfleet :) Im happy to see

[Azurian]

^ Homecoming took place immediately after Voyager's return in 2378. (Before the events in Nemesis).

Janeway was killed on a Borg Cube 2 years later in "Before Dishonor".

Its not "beleiving" that it was Endgame, it <was> Endgame, have you not seen it?

As for the novel - http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Homecoming and its followup. I certainly would take "ideas" from this novel, ie: some stuff that happens when they come home, but the nanoprobe thing was silly.

Please, don't be condensating. It's rude. And Yes, I seen Endgame. It was a good episode.

As for Homecoming, it would be very smart for the Devs to include it's storyline. Because it's plot can be used to explain STO players being freed from assimilation by the Borg. Where Starfleet personel have nanoprobes to counteract Borg Assimilation.

[JMD10222]

Its all speculation when it comes to soft canon until its put in a Path to 2409 update. Not worth us all arguing over it.;)

[RookActual]

Please, don't be condensating. It's rude. And Yes, I seen Endgame. It was a good episode.

This is not an attempt to insult you, but you made a hilarious spelling error. I know that you mean condascending, but you just told them to not turn from vapor into liquid.....

Sorry if this upsets you, but it was just too funny to not poke with a stick.

[Awarkle]

well technically harry kim died years ago :D, i mean technically the real harry kim was sucked out into space. THE current harry kim is a copy when the starship split in realities.

Personally i do suspect that janeway is still alive but i thought SHE would be forced to go back in time to save herself or cause some serious problems to the time line ?

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I have read this book and the results were:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Admiral Janeway is missing-in-action, presumed dead. A memorial is erected to her memory in Federation Park located in San Francisco. For all intents and purposes she appears to be dead, but as established in the novel, her "spirit" has been welcomed by the female Q known to be Q's "wife" to accompany her on another level of exploration in the Universe. At this time, no one is aware of this, and it is even less known whether or not Admiral Janeway will find herself somehow resurrected from amongst the dead by the Q.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Now from this and the fact that we know for a fact that Janeway helped save the Q continuam from there greatest enemy and helped Q with his son and also helped get the Q continuim through there first ever ethical dilema. Now from this we know that the Q owe Janeway there very existance !!

Now Admiral Janeway is not Dead ! And she will be back with the help of the Q when there need of her is complete! :D

[osena]

ID take missions form Rikker and the SIsko never ever ever Janeway she was the wrost Captains ever!:) Chakotay should have took over i liked Chakotay

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

ID take missions form Rikker and the SIsko never ever ever Janeway she was the wrost Captains ever!:) Chakotay should have took over i liked Chakotay

Your incredibly stupid !

if you think the Only Captain to map an enitre Qaudrant

To make first contact with hundreds of species out of Starfleets reach and without back up from anyone but the allainces she made herself miles from home

She created more technological advances than any other Captain in Star Fleet History from 10 times better maps with Astrometrics to Thicker more resistant Armour and Stealth Technology as well as Uber Transphasic torpedos that could obliterate Borg Cubes and she did it without the help of an entire Federation

She hasnt fought off the Borg, The Hirogen, The Kazon, The Vidians, The Krenim Imperiam, Klingons, Rougue Federation, Female Caretakers, Void Pirates, 8472, the Caatati, The Vaaqwaur, prototype Robots and sentient Nebula Demons (just to name a few) to take your comment about her being rubbish.

Your free to make your own opinions But she is an Incredible Woman, who was made an Admiral for her contrubution to the Federation that helped everyone she could that merited it!

Oh and as an Admiral youd have to follow her orders or youd be kicked out of Starfleet noob

[R1B5]

Admiral Wright. I agree with all of your points. You can also add that Capt. Janeway is also easily the most attractive Captain of the whole franchise (of the five main ones anyway).

[osena]

Your incredibly stupid !

if you think the Only Captain to map an enitre Qaudrant

To make first contact with hundreds of species out of Starfleets reach and without back up from anyone but the allainces she made herself miles from home

She created more technological advances than any other Captain in Star Fleet History from 10 times better maps with Astrometrics to Thicker more resistant Armour and Stealth Technology as well as Uber Transphasic torpedos that could obliterate Borg Cubes and she did it without the help of an entire Federation

She hasnt fought off the Borg, The Hirogen, The Kazon, The Vidians, The Krenim Imperiam, Klingons, Rougue Federation, Female Caretakers, Void Pirates, 8472, the Caatati, The Vaaqwaur, prototype Robots and sentient Nebula Demons (just to name a few) to take your comment about her being rubbish.

Your free to make your own opinions But she is an Incredible Woman, who was made an Admiral for her contrubution to the Federation that helped everyone she could that merited it!

Oh and as an Admiral youd have to follow her orders or youd be kicked out of Starfleet noob

I am not stupid i just never Liked star trek voyager it in my mind it was the most far fetched of them all No why in hell would that DInky ship be abel too take on a borg cube IF the galaxy class Enterprise D could only put a small dent in one how is that small Frigate/light cruiser going to do it and to be far those transphasic Torpedos were never made in the right time line>

On side note i have not called you any names so am going too leave the better Man

[Devren]

Your incredibly stupid !

if you think the Only Captain to map an enitre Qaudrant

To make first contact with hundreds of species out of Starfleets reach and without back up from anyone but the allainces she made herself miles from home

She created more technological advances than any other Captain in Star Fleet History from 10 times better maps with Astrometrics to Thicker more resistant Armour and Stealth Technology as well as Uber Transphasic torpedos that could obliterate Borg Cubes and she did it without the help of an entire Federation ...


haha, no offense Admiral, but I'd say you're a little biased (so am I, but at least I admit it).

(1) She most certainly didn't map out an ENTIRE quadrant
(2) There is now way she made first contact with hundreds of species (especially considering only 172 VOY episodes were aired... so according to your statement she must have averaged at least 2.5 first contacts per episode... or found some time in between to meet new fellows)
(3) Let's face it, she cheated... (a) she did not invent most of these things, Seven probably did and more importantly (b) the other technologies you mention were brought back from her future.

Now don't get me wrong, I think she did a great job, but she still does not beat good old Picard and I'll give you four good reasons:

(1) He did not strand his crew over 70,000 light years for more than a week at any given point or time... granted he did get them into another universe and different galaxies, but all of that did not last! (sorry Janeway)
(2) Technically he never started a war between he Federation and somebody else... yes, some would argue he did sorta cause the whole "Borg finding out about the Federation and the human race", but those cybernetic aliens only tend to send one ship at a time... better that than the Dominions (sorry Sisko)
(3) He got the job as the commander of the Enteprise right away (even Kirk had to wait till Pike couldn't use the handicap-unfriendly NCC-1701 anymore)

and last, but not least

(4) There are at least four personalities stuck in him: Original Picard, Nexus Picard, Locutus and Kamin (TNG: "Inner Light")... that's at least three more voices than any other captain can listen too in his/her head ;-)

That all being said I think we've kinda gone off-topic with this one... I'd hope the ppl from Cryptic would include some former cast-members in some NPC capacity, especially considering humans have known to get at least 120 years old in the ST universe and Janeway for instance should be around 81 in 2409...

plus it'd be a good way to launch a better PR campaign than SW:TOR has as of late. Just imagine cast members from TNG, DS9 and VOY to give you a little side quest... I just hope Cryptic put enough money aside for that sort of thing.

[The-Raver]

That would be an excellent idea but would the actors do it if asked. Now that would be a coup.

[R1B5]

If you go on the IMDB, Kate Mulgrew's trivia section, she's quoted as saying: Would I play Janeway again knowing what I know about the experience? Yes, I think I would.

So here's hoping.

[jfolds1]

Lets not forget that by 2409 we sould be able to fly around in tri-warp nacelle galaxy class ships


;)

[Bezurn]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!


I never liked her either.

Ditto.

QFT!!

[ransomwk]

I think I know one good reason to not have any of the characters from the shows in this game. Klingons. I can imagine more than a few Klingon players willing to hunt down and kill some of them. Indeed if / when they open up Romulans as a playable race, I can imagine many Romulan players willing to go after some of these characters as well.

[CaptainHanson]

I beleive Picard greets her with "Ah, Admiral Janeway"

obviously, VA is shortened in this case.

In the military an Admiral (rear, vice) is still referred to as "Admiral". Just like a General Officer (Brig, Major, Lieutenant General) is just referred to as "General", unless formally being spoken to, introduced, or repremanded.

[J.L.Picard]

Short answer: No.
Everyone you know and love is either retired or dead by 2409.

LMFAO well put, only exception here is Data and Tuvoc unless he has also kicked the bucket. Possibly any Klingons you like, i think i remember something about Klingons having a longer life then Humans but im not sure.

[dieuwe10]

DEATH TO JANEWAY.

Does that mean you will play Klingon to kill her?

[the_reaper87]

Short answer: No.
Everyone you know and love is either retired or dead by 2409.

Or an Ambassador, that seems to be the it thing when you retire from StarFleet.

[DanSeale]

Short answer: No.
Everyone you know and love is either retired or dead by 2409.

YUP ! ... thanks goodness she's gone .. sorry folks .. she's just one of those charactors I did not care for that much .. (no offense intended) ....

I thought several others in the series actually played better parts.

BUT.. for this thread ... NO ! I really dont want her in game.

[CaptainTy]

Well said,

And Remember Coffee gets her through most things (its an EMH blend - with Talaxian spices lol)

True, True!