All good things...

[walker555]

Do yall remember how in the TNG finale, the Klingon Empire had taken over the Romulan Empire? I know that was set in a future that did NOT occur, but still that may happen we have quite a few years left untill 2409, the romulan empire IS splinterred, and the Klingons are just plain mean lol.


In my opinion I hope this DOES happen, that way there needs to be no explanation for no Romulans, AND that faction can be introduced later if they have a revolutionary war (or something like that).


On a side note, does anyone think or have they heard anything about voiced roles within the game, as in by actors or other random people.

[overlordthor]

Do yall remember how in the TNG finale, the Klingon Empire had taken over the Romulan Empire? I know that was set in a future that did NOT occur, but still that may happen we have quite a few years left untill 2409, the romulan empire IS splinterred, and the Klingons are just plain mean lol.


In my opinion I hope this DOES happen, that way there needs to be no explanation for no Romulans, AND that faction can be introduced later if they have a revolutionary war (or something like that).

I think the fact that they are pretty splintered explains everything quite well, Romulans lack coordinated leadership, lack the resources of the other factions, still a threat, just not equal to the Klinon/Federation.

[thefrayl]

Do yall remember how in the TNG finale, the Klingon Empire had taken over the Romulan Empire? I know that was set in a future that did NOT occur, but still that may happen we have quite a few years left untill 2409, the romulan empire IS splinterred, and the Klingons are just plain mean lol.

In my opinion I hope this DOES happen, that way there needs to be no explanation for no Romulans, AND that faction can be introduced later if they have a revolutionary war (or something like that)..

I think the currently known status of the Romulan empire is reason enough for them not to be included as a major faction at launch. And Cryptic knowing about this event earlier on thanks to Paramount also explains why this wasn't sought after from the beginning.

But that is an intriguing idea for future events. I would personally like to see the Romulans hold their own though.

[Cleopatra]

I think part of the Romulan Star Empire will be conquered by the Klingons. Remember there are three rival factions. At least one of them has to be unfriendly to the Klingons.

[TruthSeer]

According to the Path updates haven't the Klingons already started moving in on Romulan territory which is the source of the problem between them and the Federation?

[LunaticFringer]

I agree that the splintering of the Empire due to the loss of Romulus is pretty well all the explanation we need now. Amidst the ensuing power struggles to take control of the Empire and sorting through finger pointing the blame of the catastrophe we have all the explanation we need.

It also gives the Devs time to come up with a story to present to us the Romulans in an Expansion where in I doubt anyone has "taken them over" since they don't exactly lay down and die. I would suspect we'll see Donatra used as a prominent character in the Romulan expansion. I'd almost suspect it'll also introduce them as a "third" faction to the game since everything is falling under Federation or Klingon at the moment and I doubt they'll "unbalance" things by tossing them to one side or the other in game terms.

[Arcticfrost]

Do yall remember how in the TNG finale, the Klingon Empire had taken over the Romulan Empire? I know that was set in a future that did NOT occur, but still that may happen we have quite a few years left untill 2409, the romulan empire IS splinterred, and the Klingons are just plain mean lol.


In my opinion I hope this DOES happen, that way there needs to be no explanation for no Romulans, AND that faction can be introduced later if they have a revolutionary war (or something like that).


On a side note, does anyone think or have they heard anything about voiced roles within the game, as in by actors or other random people.

Ah, but you appear to be under the assumption that this is fallowing canon with the new movie which it’s not, rather from nemesis in which I believe afterwards the Romulan empire would have greatly re-organized itself with the large shift in power once Picard’s double was killed.

[thefrayl]

Ah, but you appear to be under the assumption that this is fallowing canon with the new movie which it’s not, rather from nemesis in which I believe afterwards the Romulan empire would have greatly re-organized itself with the large shift in power once Picard’s double was killed.

Are you referring to the game? If so, then it is following canon established in the new movie in the sense that Romulous has been destroyed, and Spock disappeared trying to stop the disaster.

[neomarsala]

I'd rather have the Romulans show up as a 3rd faction in an expansion. I also hope that the Cardassians will be part of that faction. I think the Cardassians would fit better with Romulans than either the Feds or the Klingons.

[Rillanor]

I think the Romulan Empire will have rallied and be on the road to recovery before 2409... Maybe not the mighty empire it was, but a potent one nonetheless! Remember we have 21 years of intrigue and twists and plots to go until our STO story begins. :D

[Time-Lord]

I'd love to have the Enterprise from that episode. The whole third nacelle thing is just so sexy.

[Kinjiru]

Do yall remember how in the TNG finale, the Klingon Empire had taken over the Romulan Empire? I know that was set in a future that did NOT occur, but still that may happen we have quite a few years left untill 2409, the romulan empire IS splinterred, and the Klingons are just plain mean lol.


In my opinion I hope this DOES happen, that way there needs to be no explanation for no Romulans, AND that faction can be introduced later if they have a revolutionary war (or something like that).


On a side note, does anyone think or have they heard anything about voiced roles within the game, as in by actors or other random people.

Bite your tongue sir! The Star Empire would commit mass ritual suicide before allowing themselves to be subjugated by such a barbaric race.

[BalzOnYer4Head]

In every episode I have ever seen with heavy Klingon involvement, I always marvel at how they even have warp drive. With their traditions and natural tendency towards violence (in everything they do) how did scientists ever even manage to survive as a Klingon growing up? They are a savage and barbaric race and nowhere near smart enough to even know what you need to make a warp drive.

Take into consideration the episode where Durras and Gowron are up for Supreme Super Duper Leader of Klingon Land. These two are up for the title of next leader of an entire world, and it is due to the fact that one of them was poisoning the current leader (in which he dies shortly after Picard agrees to perform the silly ceremony to "decide" the successor.)

One of them tries to coerce the ambassador to lead Picard in a way that would favor him in exchange for a seat on the council, and the other one murders the ambassador because she was getting ready to reveal some not so honorable things about him. Savages!

My guess is that they recovered the warp technology and forced some poor warp core sceintist in the wrong place at the wrong time to show them how to make it, and outright stole the cloaking technology from the Romulans.

I will admit that I am not even 50 percent up to snuff on Klingon lore, so feel free to correct anything I have stated as far as Klingons and how they have such advanced technology, or point me in the right direction to do my own reading.

I do admire true Klingon's sense of honor though, and they are the humanoids you want on your side in a battle.

But for the most part they are idiots.:rolleyes:

:)

[Time-Lord]

In every episode I have ever seen with heavy Klingon involvement, I always marvel at how they even have warp drive. With their traditions and natural tendency towards violence (in everything they do) how did scientists ever even manage to survive as a Klingon growing up? They are a savage and barbaric race and nowhere near smart enough to even know what you need to make a warp drive.

Take into consideration the episode where Durras and Gowron are up for Supreme Super Duper Leader of Klingon Land. These two are up for the title of next leader of an entire world, and it is due to the fact that one of them was poisoning the current leader (in which he dies shortly after Picard agrees to perform the silly ceremony to "decide" the successor.)

One of them tries to coerce the ambassador to lead Picard in a way that would favor him in exchange for a seat on the council, and the other one murders the ambassador because she was getting ready to reveal some not so honorable things about him. Savages!

My guess is that they recovered the warp technology and forced some poor warp core sceintist in the wrong place at the wrong time to show them how to make it, and outright stole the cloaking technology from the Romulans.

I will admit that I am not even 50 percent up to snuff on Klingon lore, so feel free to correct anything I have stated as far as Klingons and how they have such advanced technology, or point me in the right direction to do my own reading.

I do admire true Klingon's sense of honor though, and they are the humanoids you want on your side in a battle.

But for the most part they are idiots.:rolleyes:

:)

If i recall the Klingons didn't actually develope Warp drive, i think they stole it from another race. And i think they stole the cloaking technolgy aswel. So watch your vital equipment when meeting a Klingon.

[spiderdude1]

Are you referring to the game? If so, then it is following canon established in the new movie in the sense that Romulous has been destroyed, and Spock disappeared trying to stop the disaster.
But didn't the destruction of Romulous halt because of Nero going into the past? Speaking of which, will the planet Vulcan be in the game or will it still be destroyed?

[TruthSeer]

But didn't the destruction of Romulous halt because of Nero going into the past? Speaking of which, will the planet Vulcan be in the game or will it still be destroyed?

No, the destruction of Vulcan happened in the Alternate Timeline. And yes Romulus is gone.

[Time-Lord]

God i hate Temporal Mechanics.

[walker555]

Even if they did steal the tech, if you watch the ENT episodes involving the klingon augments, you see that the empire was not always focused on being warriors, yes they were always focused on honor but there were other ways to earn it.

on a side note, I dont think that ANY of the time travel or anything like that was enough to change such a massive event like the Klingon Empire taking over the Romulan Empire (or at least one faction of it)

[ransomwk]

If i recall the Klingons didn't actually develope Warp drive, i think they stole it from another race. And i think they stole the cloaking technolgy aswel. So watch your vital equipment when meeting a Klingon.

Klingons got warp technology when they revolted against the Hur'q (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Hur'q) who conquered their home planet. The cloaking technology they traded for with the Romulans, the Romulans got a few ships with examples of the Klingon warp drive which was far more sophisticated than what the Romulans were working with at the time.

From the "all we know about STO" thread;


On top of being at war with the Federation, the Klingon Empire has annexed Romulan space, reclaiming Khitomer, and apparently entering into hostilities with the Gorn Hegemony.


I doubt that Romulan territory is completely under Klingon rule, the Klingons may claim that it is but the Romulans have always been good at operating unseen. I suspect they have a "government in exile" operating an insurgency to remove the Klingons. The current state of the Romulan Empire could be used as a parallel to current real world events. Star Trek has often tried to parallel the real world as a means of social commentary, the Romulan situation could be used in much the same way to raise questions about our own current events, but would have to do so without making any overt statements. Imagine them unlocking the Romulans for play, and one of your first missions is to transport a suicide bomber into a Klingon outpost....

[rivvorz]

I'm very much hoping that the Romulans/Remans become a meaningful, playable faction at some point. We know they exist in some subjugated form in the future shown in All Good Things, and that's consistent with the destruction of Romulus as per Star Trek (2009) and The Path.

Since All Good Things was sort of paradoxical, however, that particular future isn't necessarily canon. I think that in the episode itself there's reference to the fact that Capt. Picard's knowledge of the future allows that future to be changed.

It's an interesting point though - how many future events have to happen? Admiral Janeway has to run back to the Delta Quadrant at some point (End Game) but I guess Riker doesn't have to end up an Admiral on the Enterprise E?

[walker555]

I'm very much hoping that the Romulans/Remans become a meaningful, playable faction at some point. We know they exist in some subjugated form in the future shown in All Good Things, and that's consistent with the destruction of Romulus as per Star Trek (2009) and The Path.

Since All Good Things was sort of paradoxical, however, that particular future isn't necessarily canon. I think that in the episode itself there's reference to the fact that Capt. Picard's knowledge of the future allows that future to be changed.

It's an interesting point though - how many future events have to happen? Admiral Janeway has to run back to the Delta Quadrant at some point (End Game) but I guess Riker doesn't have to end up an Admiral on the Enterprise E?

None of that HAS to happen, that is the great part of star trek time travel. The way it works is that you dont HAVE to explain paradoxes. I like to incorporate my personal theory of time travel into star trek; while it is not possible to go back and forth in time in your own reality, you can go back and forth in time into another parallel reality. Thus, with this explanation, the Janeway from the future is really from a parallel reality. This also helps to explain the new movie.
To further elaborate on the parallel reality theory, there are an infinite number of realities. Every time an action is taken, an infinite number of parallel realities are then formed where a different action is taken, with each reality representing a different action taken.
This theory also just explains away all paradoxes quite conveniently. The only thing it does not do is explain how the organization exists in the 29th century that overlooks and controls all time travel. I guess it could be said that they can actually monitor different realities, just like the sphere builders. and take action only when it affects the "prime" universe/reality. "Prime" being the star trek universe we all know and love.

[ransomwk]

I wonder if they will include that big cannon slung under the Enterprise in that episode......