View Full Version : Shoul Harry Kim still be an Ensign in STO?
copyrights
06-01-2009, 09:54 PM
I always thought it was funny how Harry Kim never got beyond the rank of Ensign on Voyager even though Paris got promoted twice. Should STO keep him as an ensign as an inside joke or can this poor guy finally get a promotion?
Azurian
06-01-2009, 10:00 PM
Be cruel if he was. I'm expecting him to be a Captain or an Admiral by now.
Bellereophron
06-01-2009, 10:08 PM
Yeah poor Harry, not only was he skip'd in promotions,but once Seven poped in he was always assisting her. Really? Your Operations guy as a assistant to a borg defecter?
Be kinda funny if he was still an Ensign, and in charge of Academy recruit indoctrinations. All the new life blood of starfleet passing through, while poor Harry is stuck there. :p
Manta2015
06-01-2009, 10:09 PM
Ranks and promotions in Star Trek make no sense.
(Picard still a Captain under Admiral Janeway = LOL )
-Manta-
Swordopolis
06-01-2009, 10:09 PM
He'll probably be president of the UFP or something along those lines in 2409. :D
LunaticFringer
06-01-2009, 10:45 PM
Given how he was obscurely left an ensign after all of that time I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up leaving Starfleet as one of our little update blurbs.
I'll admit that rank often didn't make sense during the entirity of the series though. However, Picard I could at least imagine kept his station at the behest of Kirk's advice. As long as he was a Captain he could make a difference. Of course I was always fond of that bold melodrama. , )
Phunix
06-01-2009, 10:48 PM
He picked up a lot of confidence in the latter part of Voyager, so I expect him to have risen rank a bit by now.
I'd be surprised if he hasn't at least made commander by now.
SirReginaldo
06-01-2009, 10:51 PM
Well in all cases Picard was not a true Politician and probably couldn't survive behind the desk and behind the scenes. That is why he is the Diplomat (not the mat mad of Diplo blocks:D) to Vulcan:D
SirReginaldo
06-01-2009, 10:52 PM
He picked up a lot of confidence in the latter part of Voyager, so I expect him to have risen rank a bit by now.
I'd be surprised if he hasn't at least made commander by now.
Wrong person for that comment before... Knew it was wrong but anyways, yah he should be something else at least:D
Azurit
06-01-2009, 11:23 PM
Ranks and promotions in Star Trek make no sense.
(Picard still a Captain under Admiral Janeway = LOL )
Well in TNG he rejected an offer for promotion to Admiral and beeing in charge of the starfleet academy.
CaptProton
06-01-2009, 11:58 PM
In the other "reality" he was Captain of a Scienece Ship... (Nova Class)
ibby1kanobi
06-02-2009, 01:34 AM
If he stuck around in Starfleet I'd imagine he'd be a captain by now for sure. He would be like 50-60? 40+ years and not a captain? I'd lead a revolution. Plus Picard was a front line man, Janeway is more of a buttkissing ladder climber.
r2data
06-02-2009, 01:38 AM
If you follow the novels, all the Voyager's crew got promoted two ranks after they returned from the Delta Quad.
Plus, Paris' promotions were not really promotions but a restoration of rank. He'd been demoted for not following orders before hand.
Don't forget that in ST:Countdown Picard was an admiral. It's canon and takes place in the original timeline.
Reinkaos
06-02-2009, 07:05 AM
Most definitely, he's the eternal ensign.
dieuwe10
06-02-2009, 07:10 AM
Maybe he gets killed in The Path to 2409? Picard might have gotten to Admiral, but he's an Ambassador now (and who knows, maybe he gets killed too).
Kirausagi
06-02-2009, 07:14 AM
ermm call me a fool but i believe to remember a double episode ...in wich janeway was an admiral and Mr Kim a Captain (!!) dont ask me whats the name of the episode but it began with the x -years anyversary of the comeback of the Voyager
it ended up with the "futures" Janeway bringng back the "past" Janeway 20 Years before her (the futures Janyeway) timeshedule
Prospero
06-02-2009, 07:14 AM
I hope he is dead. Seriously.
Hornet331
06-02-2009, 07:15 AM
Maybe he gets killed in The Path to 2409? Picard might have gotten to Admiral, but he's an Ambassador now (and who knows, maybe he gets killed too).
Why they need to killed? Can't they just die of old age? (like bones) :p
Kirausagi
06-02-2009, 07:18 AM
Why they need to killed? Can't they just die of old age? (like bones) :p
well picard became a farmer after retirement (in the movies) ,lets see what might happen to him in STO ...im curios to see and fnd out
Cosmo365
06-02-2009, 07:24 AM
well picard became a farmer after retirement (in the movies) ,lets see what might happen to him in STO ...im curios to see and fnd out
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Piccard was a vintner in the very last episode of TNG, the two-parter, "All Good Things". This was also part of the alternate timeline created by Q and not "real". Once Piccard solved the riddle set before him by Q, the alternate timeline disappeared in a puff of logic.
Collingham
06-02-2009, 07:26 AM
Ranks and promotions in Star Trek make no sense.
(Picard still a Captain under Admiral Janeway = LOL )
-Manta-
It always seemed Picard wanted to stay a Captain....Janeway probably had her fair share of exploring in the Delta Quadrant......not to mention the sheer diversity and greatness of what Voyager achieved under her command arguably outweighs anything Picard and the Enterprise ever did. Her promotion was certainly warranted.......his would have been as welll but for some reason he never got it...
TruthSeer
06-02-2009, 07:33 AM
I always thought it was funny how Harry Kim never got beyond the rank of Ensign on Voyager even though Paris got promoted twice. Should STO keep him as an ensign as an inside joke or can this poor guy finally get a promotion?
To be fair wasn't he promoted twice since he was demoted at least once?
USS_Parallax
06-02-2009, 07:33 AM
The short answer is "yes".
PattonJ007
06-02-2009, 08:02 AM
In 2409 Harry Kim would be 60 years old ... so hes probably an admiral. I wouldn't mind taking orders from him:)
wrussandrews
06-02-2009, 08:20 AM
Harry Who?
Get it? Harry Who!
Why do I get the feeling that most of you are not anywhere near old enough to get that?
Ok I will shut up now. But only for a moment.
Rosebud
06-02-2009, 09:52 AM
Since they were out in the boondocks and cut off from the Federation, it doesn't matter.
A ship has jobs that need to get done. Jobs are generally categorized as being something appropriate to a person of a certain rank, with a little room for flexibility. They didn't have any new people coming in or old people rotating out.
Kim could have been an admiral and someone still had to do his job. Same with everyone. Besides, if you subscribe to the "money-free" philosophy, then what does it matter? Succession of captaincy in case of a major tragedy?
To touch upon something I really hate about the Trek universe, why not just create a holographic Janeway and let it command the ship? Or for that matter a holographic Kim to run things while the real Kim sleeps all day and party's all night?
I would have been more curious as to why there never seemed to be any relief for people to provide them with a change of scenery. Being away from home and with no real days off, burnout becomes a serious risk, and with no new crewmembers available, cross-training becomes very important. Everyone on that ship should have been rotating between two or three different jobs.
Arcturis
06-02-2009, 11:34 AM
When did Picard become an admiral? :confused:
Admiral-Darren-Wright
06-02-2009, 03:12 PM
It always seemed Picard wanted to stay a Captain....Janeway probably had her fair share of exploring in the Delta Quadrant......not to mention the sheer diversity and greatness of what Voyager achieved under her command arguably outweighs anything Picard and the Enterprise ever did. Her promotion was certainly warranted.......his would have been as welll but for some reason he never got it...
Well said :)
Admiral-Darren-Wright
06-02-2009, 03:13 PM
Don't forget that in ST:Countdown Picard was an admiral. It's canon and takes place in the original timeline.
Nuboo is a deadly creature when cornered by Klingons
(private Joke for Groxy :) )
ComradeWolfie
06-02-2009, 03:32 PM
He's still an ensign, and he will be forever.
DS5620
06-02-2009, 05:22 PM
It would be kind of funny if he was still an ensign
PugPug
06-02-2009, 05:39 PM
As I recall, in the relaunch books, the whole crew got promoted at their welcome-home ceremony.
Nuboo is a deadly creature when cornered by Klingons
(private Joke for Groxy :) )
I miss nuboo. Hope he comes around soon.:D
Neshy
06-02-2009, 07:55 PM
idk about harry kim, but im still waiting for the "Path to 2409" segment that mentions:
"oh yeah, and wesley crusher, after being transfered to a new prototype starship with technology essential to defeating the borg in the war, was running around the engine room, tripped over a wire, fell into the warp core, and caused the core to detonate resulting in the loss of 40 years work of technology"
that would be intresting, yet kind of understandable and expected.
The_Padre
06-02-2009, 08:08 PM
He's still an ensign, and he will be forever.
In fact by this stage I'd have expected him to have reverted back to Crewman :D
Admiral_Patrick
06-02-2009, 10:36 PM
I don't see why itmatters seeing that nothing in this game is real anyway. Now before you cry out that nothing in StarTrek is real, keep in mind it's not even real for Star Trek standards.
if harry had hooked into that klingon chick he would have been promoted but neelix pushed his way in and scored