STO Inbalance Thus Far

[Arokh72]

I know there are a couple of threads on this out there but again I like to correlate everything into one tidy place...no I'm not anal just bored.

So far from what we've seen from screenies e.t.c it seems that Cryptic are thus far Fedcentric, leaving the poor widdle Klingons out in the depths. I'm sure that they'll eventually release more Klingon stuff, personally I think they are working on one set of art direction at a time with the Klingon goodies yet to be released or even worked out (depending on the current stage of in house testing).

I'm going to go a little further her though, do you feel that when the game goes live that there maybe an inbalance between Klingons and Federation players? In WoW on some servers you can still notice an imbalance between Horde and Alliance player populations which can create issues for some PvPers.

[Sumdian]

I think there will be more feds then klingons but im fine with that more feds to gank in my books :p

[thefrayl]

I wouldn't be suprised to see the Klingons outnumbered at first. But I'm hoping things will equalize relatively later down the road.

Even if it doesn't equal out though, that will only make our victories sweeter. :cool:

[Rosebud]

The Kilingons are out there...




... They're just cloaked. :cool:

[red_shirt_]

I think we see more Federation content so far for marketing point of view. Even non-fans know what a starship looks like, it's a familiar shape for many. I can see them developing more klingon content as we go more closer to the game release. I will trust them to know they will need to ave equal content on both sides.

[WikiUltimate]

The Kilingons are out there...




... They're just cloaked. :cool:

rofl, nice one :P

Ya were out here al right, and even if we are out numbered everyone knows one klingon worrior is worth 100 starfleet officers.

[Sumdian]

Ya were out here al right, and even if we are out numbered everyone knows one klingon worrior is worth 100 starfleet officers.

lol so true fed scum :p

[bigsalgo911]

While I like the idea of the whole 'Federation', I think it will be more fun to play as Klingon. Not as many rules of conduct.

[Rgoodfel]

I think there will be more feds then klingons but im fine with that more feds to gank in my books :p

Agreed this "imbalance" will not pose a problem.

[Sumdian]

Im so pumped for this game to come out its not funny all this talk about klingon/fed battles is giving me a woody :p i so cant wait for it wish i could go into a comma for 6 month lol

yay im a Senior Member now :)

[Blackheart]

Yes I think their will be more people out their playing in the federation,But I also think most of the federation players will be exploring,and doing missions. Not PVPing.

This is where it might even out. I think most Klingons are wanting to PVP from the sound of it.

[-Brett-]

I know there are a couple of threads on this out there but again I like to correlate everything into one tidy place...no I'm not anal just bored.

So far from what we've seen from screenies e.t.c it seems that Cryptic are thus far Fedcentric, leaving the poor widdle Klingons out in the depths. I'm sure that they'll eventually release more Klingon stuff, personally I think they are working on one set of art direction at a time with the Klingon goodies yet to be released or even worked out (depending on the current stage of in house testing).

I'm going to go a little further her though, do you feel that when the game goes live that there maybe an inbalance between Klingons and Federation players? In WoW on some servers you can still notice an imbalance between Horde and Alliance player populations which can create issues for some PvPers.

There will definitely more Federation players. It's like that in every Star Trek game where faction is an issue*. Five series all centering around the Federation vs a handful of episodes revolving around the Klingons. I expect that the Klingon faction will have a higher percentage of dedicated players and the Federation will be kind of noobish, which is also how it goes in most Trek games.

*If you're going to whine about how other Trek games aren't MMO's as if that somehow makes a difference, f*%k off. It doesn't.

[Citationpilot]

I'd bet that more Klingon content rolls out closer to release. Since the Federation content is already roughly spelled out thanks to the series, movies, and overall canon it was most likely the first obstacle to tackle. It is also probable that they have to develop the entire Klingon genre from scratch with only bits of episodes to reference from. I'm actually looking forward to the uniqueness of the Klingon story arc and its originality.

And as notable as Vulcan ears are around the world, I'd bet that the same people could easily describe a Klingon. Cryptic knows this, and has big boots to fill.

[evan.is.weyoun]

There will definitely more Federation players. It's like that in every Star Trek game where faction is an issue*. Five series all centering around the Federation vs a handful of episodes revolving around the Klingons. I expect that the Klingon faction will have a higher percentage of dedicated players and the Federation will be kind of noobish, which is also how it goes in most Trek games.

*If you're going to whine about how other Trek games aren't MMO's as if that somehow makes a difference, f*%k off. It doesn't.

That's how it is in a lot of games with two main factions, especially when one is perceived as "the bad guys". In WoW, the Alliance is by far more heavily populated, but consists of more noobish players. The Horde, on the flipside, though they have smaller numbers, has a much higher percentage of dedicated, mature players. I assume that will happen with STO as well, which is to be expected. More prey for me :)

[chizzel]

Like i can c on the forums, i think the klingons wil be superior in numbers then the federation.

[laladiel]

it could be that their in every picture, just under cloak.

[No1UKnow]

I am Vulcan. I do not believe the Klingon would invite me to fight on their behalf.

[Draighwulf]

I expect that the Klingon faction will have a higher percentage of dedicated players and the Federation will be kind of noobish, which is also how it goes in most Trek games.

I really hope this kind of thinking doesn't become common in game, it's one of the things really bugs me in a lot of mmorpgs, always perceiving the other side as "noobish" or similar.

[jhem99]

Here's an idea to balance it.
Say there are too many federation players, then the next 1000 players to create an account would be given a sub discount if they make a klingon char. Money entices people to choose offered faction. Something like this, eh?
:D

[Sumdian]

Here's an idea to balance it.
Say there are too many federation players, then the next 1000 players to create an account would be given a sub discount if they make a klingon char. Money entices people to choose offered faction. Something like this, eh?

NO pls don't i like to be out numbered like when i go to bed with 2 females it makes it all that more exciting :p

[jfolds1]

I'm guessing the Feds better be overly populated, cause it'll take it to keep the klingons down lol

[JoJimGregory]

I'll probably play the Klingon faction just for that fact they'll be the underdogs population wise.

[Blackheart]

I expect that the Federation will have a higher percentage of dedicated players and the Klingons will be kind of noobish, which is also how it goes in most Trek games.



I agree with you on this.

[johnflenaly]

No not imbalanced, just more things to shoot at :).

[oleum]

Before you decide on your faction based on the number of players on each side remember these two things.


Its likely that a single server (or my favoured option of 2 servers) will mean multiple instancing as described in another thread. This means that potentially being outnumbered will be irrelevant, just depens on how its done.

Secondly Crafting. There's bound to be some crafting in game. If you ever tried to play a minor faction on a server where you will know the relative difficulty of obtaining crafted items. Fleets may just decide its better to trade goods within their fleet rather than outside, making it even harder for some.


Just a couple of quick thoughts.

[cmhDK]

oh my... such a negative thread even before beta

[Teleon]

Personally, I think that the Federation will ultimately attract a lot more players of the scientific, exploration and diplomatic type rather than the blood thirsty battle hungry type. Therefore, the concern with the Klingon Empire being outnumbered in PVP battles seems, maybe a bit unlikely to me.

Another thing to consider is that Klingon Vessels are built for war. The Federation starships, while formidable, are not war ships. Maybe relic took this into consideration and made the Klingon vessels better equipped for engagement than the Federation ships? Maybe not. I mean, I hope they made it believable within the frame works of the Trek Universe.

Regardless, we all know a few bird of preys can take out a Galaxy class starship caught off guard… Just maybe this will be represented in the game! I am one to be hopeful!

[dieuwe10]

Personally, I think that the Federation will ultimately attract a lot more players of the scientific, exploration and diplomatic type rather than the blood thirsty battle hungry type. Therefore, the concern with the Klingon Empire being outnumbered in PVP battles seems, maybe a bit unlikely to me.

Another thing to consider is that Klingon Vessels are built for war. The Federation starships, while formidable, are not war ships. Maybe relic took this into consideration and made the Klingon vessels better equipped for engagement than the Federation ships? Maybe not. I mean, I hope they made it believable within the frame works of the Trek Universe.

Regardless, we all know a few bird of preys can take out a Galaxy class starship caught off guard… Just maybe this will be represented in the game! I am one to be hopeful!

I agree with you. The main reason I'll be playing Feds is because I want to explore. This is the first MMO I've seen that is not all about shooting the first thing you see (unless you play as Klingons). I think Klingons will not lose the PvP battle. The cloaking device is the perfect PvP weapon. Decloak behind an injured Fed ship and bam, they're gone. Or lock a Fed ship in with 1 Klingon ship and then decloak with 4 of your friends and bam, there you go again.

The Klingons may get less players, but they won't be outgunned. And who says everyone will play Feds? Maybe everyone is excited about being able to find out more about Klingons for once.

[dyvimtorm]

Ultimately, the absorption of both governments as protectorates under the care of the Romulan Star Empire will render this argument meaningless. Perhaps we will pit you against each other for our amusement. Maybe Romulaform a planet for the competitions. With lots of those Klingon monster dogs running around.

[Kazzy]

I think there could be an honourable career providing support for the mighty Imperial Defense Force

[VengefulTick]

The Kilingons are out there...




... They're just cloaked. :cool:

LOL...you got me w/that one...rofl

[J.L.Picard]

there are very few star trek games where the quality of non Federation stories/gameplay doesn't sucks real bad in comparison to the Federation. SFC3 had a real good story for Klingons and Federation but the Romulan was quiete bad and the Borg was non-existant.