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Arcticfrost
05-25-2009, 06:37 AM
So, I was thinking of getting an Acer Aspire One and was wondering if, due to the fact the Devs said they where going to try and make it playable on a wide verity of systems, STO could be played on it. So far people claim to be able to play almost all pre 2006 games, Such as Morrowind, half life, halo, MMOs Including Wow and some even saying it could play Doom 3. So what do you think, could STO be played on such a platform?

And yes I can get around the fact it doesn’t have a CD/DVD drive.

Tamgros
05-25-2009, 06:42 AM
Wow, I kind of doubt it, a lot. Those things have integrated graphics cards and just not meant for gaming. I know they said they want to make the game work on a variety of systems but....


You really can't be sure until they release the recommended specs though. I'm just VERY skeptical.

Arcticfrost
05-25-2009, 06:48 AM
Wow, I kind of doubt it, a lot. Those things have integrated graphics cards and just not meant for gaming. I know they said they want to make the game work on a variety of systems but....


You really can't be sure until they release the recommended specs though. I'm just VERY skeptical.

Ya, so am I but unless, This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOWjfAHoxbI), is a trick then he is playing Wow on the Acre Aspire One

THORN74
05-25-2009, 06:55 AM
if ur serieous about trying to play on a netbook, google NVIDIA ION. Its a new netbook chipset that utillizes the dual core atom chips and a 9400GPU. They showed it playing COD4 at decent rez and very playable frame rate.

they are saying their will be new netbooks and nettops out in june featuring this chip set.

knightofhyrule730
05-25-2009, 06:56 AM
i used to have an acer. it crashed every day from day 1.

NEVER AGAIN will i buy, support, or allow one to be unsmashed by a hammer in my direct vacinity.

Arcticfrost
05-25-2009, 07:00 AM
if ur serieous about trying to play on a netbook, google NVIDIA ION. Its a new netbook chipset that utillizes the dual core atom chips and a 9400GPU. They showed it playing COD4 at decent rez and very playable frame rate.

they are saying their will be new netbooks and nettops out in june featuring this chip set.

Ya I’ve heard of it, the only problem is that mimi laptops with that are going to become rather expensive, and I’m looking for something with the most power for the buck, and at only $263 the aspire is exceptionally fast.

Arcticfrost
05-25-2009, 07:01 AM
i used to have an acer. it crashed every day from day 1.

NEVER AGAIN will i buy, support, or allow one to be unsmashed by a hammer in my direct vacinity.

That doesn’t really say anything, there are always going to be lemon computers that just blow up in your face.

THORN74
05-25-2009, 07:05 AM
yeah my wife has a 15" acer gaming lappy. It works great. She plays LOTRO on it with ease and has only had one small boot hickup in the 2+ years we have owned it.

u probably just got a bad one. while Acer is not the top teir MFR that dell, alienware, gateway, & HP are, i would buy one if the price was right.

CrazyVulcan
05-25-2009, 07:07 AM
naa save you self the headac and find the extre $300 to get somthing descent

Butters' phlysophy of the day

you can have somthing one of 3 ways, well done, cheap, or esay. You may only chose 2
if you want somthing Cheap and Esay is wont be well done

ect...

for a gamemer a halfway decent system is a worthwile investment

deerang
05-25-2009, 07:07 AM
So, I was thinking of getting an Acer Aspire One and was wondering if, due to the fact the Devs said they where going to try and make it playable on a wide verity of systems, STO could be played on it. So far people claim to be able to play almost all pre 2006 games, Such as Morrowind, half life, halo, MMOs Including Wow and some even saying it could play Doom 3. So what do you think, could STO be played on such a platform?

And yes I can get around the fact it doesn’t have a CD/DVD drive.

I have an Acer One that i use for work. Tried some games on it and some work ( like WOW ) but all have framerates between 5 - 15fps, which makes them completley unplayable. Also if you get more than 5 characters on the screen it becomes 5fps slideshow.

Tamgros
05-25-2009, 07:07 AM
Ya I’ve heard of it, the only problem is that mimi laptops with that are going to become rather expensive, and I’m looking for something with the most power for the buck, and at only $263 the aspire is exceptionally fast.

Just because the devs have said they want their game to run on a wide range of systems like wow, doesn't mean it will run on the same systems that WoW can run on. Remember, WoW has been out for years. The devs could just mean that they want the same kind of % of the market that WoW was capable of running on when it released. I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that an integrated graphics card and an atom processor can't run STO.

By the way, watching that video makes me glad I never played WoW. it looks sooooo boring.

Arcticfrost
05-25-2009, 07:13 AM
Just because the devs have said they want their game to run on a wide range of systems like wow, doesn't mean it will run on the same systems that WoW can run on. Remember, WoW has been out for years. The devs could just mean that they want the same kind of % of the market that WoW was capable of running on when it released. I'd be willing to bet a lot of money that an integrated graphics card and an atom processor can't run STO.

By the way, watching that video makes me glad I never played WoW. it looks sooooo boring.

Ha-ha ya, endless fields with your avatar just twitching when it stays in one place, but any way idk I think STO could play in some instances better than Wow especially with space combat unlike wow where these all the scenery and such in space well there not much there other than your opponent.

Arcticfrost
05-25-2009, 10:21 AM
Well since this isn’t going to be my main computer it doesn’t really matter all that much if it can’t play STO just thought it would be nice. Aside from that what do you think is the most advanced game it can play comfortably?

USS_Parallax
05-25-2009, 10:27 AM
Get a 7811 FX Gateway. Best computer I've ever bought. $1250 laptop that can do what a $2500 one can do.

;D

Arcticfrost
05-25-2009, 10:29 AM
Get a 7811 FX Gateway. Best computer I've ever bought. $1250 laptop that can do what a $2500 one can do.

;D

lol kinda looking in the sub $300 price range;)

CrazyVulcan
05-25-2009, 04:15 PM
Aside from that what do you think is the most advanced game it can play comfortably?

idk...pong?

KL0k
05-25-2009, 04:24 PM
for real tho..
if you want to play a game on a plattform - dont consider regular officetype-laptops or netbooks.. (it _can_ work, but most devs dont consider nor support laptop gpus)
buy a console or upgrade your comp..
something like a 2,4ghz dualcore cpu, 2-4gig ddr2 ram, mainboard that fits, gf8800GT/9600GT or something and your fine for the most games that came out. a config like this shouldnt cost to much and you can play the most games at a decent res and some games with maxedout details.

CrazyVulcan
05-25-2009, 05:10 PM
though if you realy have your heart set on a lap top for not that much look into 07 model "Media" laptops

mine is a 06 but i got plenty of ram but becuse of my intergreated vid card i may now have to buy a new system :(

tucker75
05-25-2009, 05:33 PM
Just curious if this is a good gaming laptop

Video/Graphics Card: Dual 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3870 - CrossFireX™ Enabled!
Processor: Intel® Core™2 T9550 2.66GHz (6MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB)
Design & Display: Black Ripley Design
Chassis: 17-Inch WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD (720p)
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (64-bit Edition) with Service Pack 1
Notebook Tuners and Remotes: Without Media Center Remote Control or TV Tuner
Memory: 2GB Dual Channel DDR3 SO-DIMM at 1066MHz – 2 x 1024MB
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 500GB 7,200RPM (16MB Cache) w/ Free Fall Protection
Optical Drives : 8x Dual Layer Burner (DVD±RW, CD-RW)
Wireless Network Card: Internal Wireless b/g (Full Mini-Card)
Sound Card : Internal High-Definition Audio with Surround Sound
Window Style: Graphite Window Style
Mouse Pointers: Standard Mouse Pointers
Power Plan: High Performance
Automatic Updates: Automatic Updates On
Sidebar Gadgets: CPU Meter

Sumdian
05-25-2009, 07:49 PM
Just curious if this is a good gaming laptop

Video/Graphics Card: Dual 512MB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3870 - CrossFireX™ Enabled!
Processor: Intel® Core™2 T9550 2.66GHz (6MB Cache, 1066MHz FSB)
Design & Display: Black Ripley Design
Chassis: 17-Inch WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD (720p)
Operating System (Office software not included): Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium (64-bit Edition) with Service Pack 1
Notebook Tuners and Remotes: Without Media Center Remote Control or TV Tuner
Memory: 2GB Dual Channel DDR3 SO-DIMM at 1066MHz – 2 x 1024MB
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 500GB 7,200RPM (16MB Cache) w/ Free Fall Protection
Optical Drives : 8x Dual Layer Burner (DVD±RW, CD-RW)
Wireless Network Card: Internal Wireless b/g (Full Mini-Card)
Sound Card : Internal High-Definition Audio with Surround Sound
Window Style: Graphite Window Style
Mouse Pointers: Standard Mouse Pointers
Power Plan: High Performance
Automatic Updates: Automatic Updates On
Sidebar Gadgets: CPU Meter

there isnt much out there that wouldnt play very nice for a lapy how much did it cost ?

Arcticfrost
05-26-2009, 05:28 AM
for real tho..
if you want to play a game on a plattform - dont consider regular officetype-laptops or netbooks.. (it _can_ work, but most devs dont consider nor support laptop gpus)
buy a console or upgrade your comp..
something like a 2,4ghz dualcore cpu, 2-4gig ddr2 ram, mainboard that fits, gf8800GT/9600GT or something and your fine for the most games that came out. a config like this shouldnt cost to much and you can play the most games at a decent res and some games with maxedout details.

O ya I have a very good computer at home this would just be if I where to go on vacation or away from home for some reason.

tucker75
05-26-2009, 05:46 PM
got it for 40% off when i bought it so got it for around 1600

Captain-Picard
05-26-2009, 05:52 PM
So, I was thinking of getting an Acer Aspire One and was wondering if, due to the fact the Devs said they where going to try and make it playable on a wide verity of systems, STO could be played on it. So far people claim to be able to play almost all pre 2006 games, Such as Morrowind, half life, halo, MMOs Including Wow and some even saying it could play Doom 3. So what do you think, could STO be played on such a platform?

And yes I can get around the fact it doesn’t have a CD/DVD drive.

Don't get Acer Aspire One, I had one and games wouldn't even run on it because it was so slow. Go with a gaming PC.

KO_Gilligan
05-26-2009, 07:10 PM
Get a real gaming notebook.

Otherwise, expect a slideshow

Arcticfrost
05-27-2009, 07:16 AM
Don't get Acer Aspire One, I had one and games wouldn't even run on it because it was so slow. Go with a gaming PC.

Really because from what I’ve read it can play some good 3D games, on the lowest resolution of course, maybe you didn’t allocate your memory right.

Captain-Picard
05-27-2009, 07:28 AM
Really because from what I’ve read it can play some good 3D games, on the lowest resolution of course, maybe you didn’t allocate your memory right.

I take great care of my computers, I'm a computer expert of 9 years.

Awarkle
05-27-2009, 07:34 AM
Ive heard that alienware machines arnt actually that good. your normally paying for the name with them and in most cases they actually use bottom of the range parts just overclocked and improved drivers.

Dell computers arnt too bad but normally you end up with a load of junk you dont actually want.

Laptops i always feel are for working on and maybe watching a movie but for on the move gaming especially new releases your going to have to fork out a lot OR consider being only able to play games from 2 years ago.

also dont play with laptops on your lap its been known the heat they generate sterlises folks.

RemyBlack
05-27-2009, 07:49 AM
If you are looking to save money dell.com sells referbuished (with a warrenty) and returned laptops. While I'm not sure you can get one for under $300 you might be able to buy more for your buck. They also closeout models on the website. So if time is not a concurn check often for the best deal. Also If you all want sticker shock google Falcon Northwest computers and look at there "Gaming Cube." /pucker lmao
Anyway hope this helps some.

Thibor
05-27-2009, 08:31 AM
If you're looking for something mostly as a vacation laptop with idea of being able to check email, etc. and maybe play a game on it, you could try that Acer but, I wouldn't hold my breath hoping for a compelling gaming experience.

But, there are plenty of laptops out there perfectly capable of playing the latest games. However, unless you luck into a really sweet deal, be prepared to pay about 50% more or higher than you would for a similarly specced desktop. Meaning your $1000 desktop you're probably going to spend at least $1500 if not more (possibly quite a bit more) to match the specs with a laptop.

Companies like Sager, Hypersonic, etc. make some very nice gaming laptops.

Anyone claiming a laptop can't or isn't designed to play games, they should go check out the new Sager NP9280. http://www.sagernotebook.com/product_customed.php?pid=171297 <-- That laptop, even base configured, would rock any game out right now.

And while it's about double your target budget, the Sager NP2095 with bumping the memory to 4gb would run you about $650. The downside is that it's still an integrated graphics chip which shares memory (hence the suggestion to bump to 4gb) which makes it not a great gaming choice but, at least from what I've read on the Intel GMA X4500HD it's roughly comparable to an 8400GS. Not astounding but MUCH more capable a system for STO than the Acer you mentioned. And Sager is known for making excellent laptops.

Arcticfrost
05-27-2009, 09:27 AM
Well I guess I will just have to wait and see for myself how it handles games.

tucker75
05-27-2009, 04:41 PM
well the lapy that i showed was an alienware lappy. I didnt get it fully decked out as could got some more stuff added to it which i'll do later as i can most likely the ram. but i'll see how it performs.

Arcticfrost
06-06-2009, 11:42 AM
Hey just thought I would update this thread with this (http://www.gamespot.com/features/6205856/index.html), a rather impressive list of 3D games that can be played on netbooks according to gamespot.

I don’t know the prospect of playing STO is starting to look a little brighter. :)

KO_Gilligan
06-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Hey just thought I would update this thread with this (http://www.gamespot.com/features/6205856/index.html), a rather impressive list of 3D games that can be played on netbooks according to gamespot.

I don’t know the prospect of playing STO is starting to look a little brighter. :)

This is the list on EEEUser of games that play well on the Asus series of Netbooks

Funny how he didn't provide a link.

We've been talking about these EEE machines in a tech forum... Don't get your hopes too high. Many of those games will not realistically be playable framerates, and I even noticed some old ones on that list that have compatibility issues if running XP or later...

I'd take that list wit a grain of salt.

KO_Gilligan
06-06-2009, 02:55 PM
well the lapy that i showed was an alienware lappy. I didnt get it fully decked out as could got some more stuff added to it which i'll do later as i can most likely the ram. but i'll see how it performs.

I'd rather have a little portable MicroATX LAN Machine any day of the week.... I guess if you travel everywhere on a Skateboard, your options are limited.

Gaming on a Laptop is more of a square peg type of situation. You see the Battery Use on those Alienware rigs?

...too many people want to whip that thing out in the school cafeteria and suddenly start pwning. Not a real good reason to own an expensive Notebook IMO, but whatever gets you in the game, I guess.

Thibor
06-06-2009, 03:25 PM
Hey just thought I would update this thread with this, a rather impressive list of 3D games that can be played on netbooks according to gamespot.

I don’t know the prospect of playing STO is starting to look a little brighter.

I could play WoW initially at launch on a Pentium 3 Celeron, GeForce 2 with 64mb and 1gb of the ram du jour. Doesn't mean it was a great playing experience. But, I could certainly run the game. All depends on what you're looking for.


I'd rather have a little portable MicroATX LAN Machine any day of the week.... I guess if you travel everywhere on a Skateboard, your options are limited.

Gaming on a Laptop is more of a square peg type of situation. You see the Battery Use on those Alienware rigs?

...too many people want to whip that thing out in the school cafeteria and suddenly start pwning. Not a real good reason to own an expensive Notebook IMO, but whatever gets you in the game, I guess.

Battery life? For gaming on a laptop? Really? *shrug*
Maybe that's a concern but tbh, anyone who's buying a laptop to game likely has obviously the1 and likely 2 power adapters. The 2nd being to keep them from stooping under the desk every time they go to take it someplace. to unplug the one. People who play MMOs on a regular basis tend to be online longer than the 90 minutes of a shorter lifespan battery and often will push the limits of those claiming lasting up to 4 hours or more.

Simply put, laptops, IF you are willing to spend the cash for a decent-to-great one, will play games just fine. And they come with a power adapter just like your desktop has a power cord (albeit with a "brick") and conveniently stow away in most laptop bags/backpacks.

No ... a laptop wouldn't be my first choice for computer gaming. BUT, if I had cash only for one I could certainly spec out a laptop that will play every game on the market right now and coming out in the next 6mo probably on max settings running 1920x1200 at a reasonable frame rate. Of course, I could probably buy two desktops for the same price.

Arcticfrost
06-06-2009, 03:38 PM
I'd rather have a little portable MicroATX LAN Machine any day of the week.... I guess if you travel everywhere on a Skateboard, your options are limited.

Gaming on a Laptop is more of a square peg type of situation. You see the Battery Use on those Alienware rigs?

...too many people want to whip that thing out in the school cafeteria and suddenly start pwning. Not a real good reason to own an expensive Notebook IMO, but whatever gets you in the game, I guess.

The reason I’m looking at the Acer aspire is because of its performance for the price at only $260 it performs exceptionally well. I remember 4-5 years ago a 1.6 ghz computer with a direct x9 supporting graphics card was consider a pretty good desktop computer, and now that same 15 pound 3 by 2 foot computer that’s almost a 12” thick has been crammed into roughly a 10x10 square that weighs only 2 pounds and is only an inch thick plus it has a screen and keyboard integrated but hay that’s moor’s law. So although it obviously won’t be able to play many new games, notebooks are a marvel of technology and maybe just maybe I can get one to play STO.

darknoni
01-08-2010, 01:29 AM
I tried STO on my Acer Aspire One yesterday. At recommended settings, it was nearly unplayable. It did load up, though. I could barely even tweak the video settings. Things did not look that great graphically either....

...but that was the tutorial stages which even my primary laptop had trouble with (I had to set my video settings to minimum just to get through the tutorial). I will try it this weekend with the lowest settings now that I've been promoted to Lieutenant. Performance picked up dramatically once I finished the tutorial.

coldheartzero
01-08-2010, 01:36 AM
i used to have an acer. it crashed every day from day 1.

NEVER AGAIN will i buy, support, or allow one to be unsmashed by a hammer in my direct vacinity.

LoL, every pre-built computer I've owned has been an Acer brand. If I buy pre-built, I buy Acer. The only thing I dislike about them is the pre-installed crap they put on them. I've found over all their systems to be rock solid and on the rare occasion I've had issues they've worked with me expediently to get my crap fixed.

I love them and recommend to everyone if they must buy pre-built, buy Acer.

pfrdbrms
01-08-2010, 01:37 AM
The best performance you can get from a netbook right now would be an Asus EEE 1201N with a dual core Atom and Nvidia ION graphics.
There are ULV subnotebooks (13"-14") with ATI 4330 or Nvidia GT 210M graphics which are much better tho and also have a much longer battery life than the 1201N.

Acyl
01-08-2010, 01:41 AM
I have a brand-new Acer Aspire One, 10.1" with Windows 7.

Trust me, you really don't want to play a current MMO on this thing. I'm honestly shocked that Mikhailov managed to get the STO client running. I'd have bet money that it'd be flat out impossible.

Anyway, bottom line is this:- you should be fine running old 2D games. No real issues there. Stuff like Fallout 1 and 2 works fine on my Aspire One.

3D games is where it gets tricky. It might run...or it might not. Even if it does run, it won't run all that well. I don't recommend it.

However, I will say it is an excellent little computer for most purposes. The build quality's pretty damn solid - Acer's seriously improved their reliability with these models. I recommend it. It's just not something you want to game on. It can run games, but that shouldn't be the point of a netbook.

A full-size laptop with a proper graphics card, on the other hand - that's an entirely different story. I can run Champions Online with pretty high settings on my Asus F8S laptop. It runs stuff like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and so on.

If size is a concern, there are slimline laptops that still have good graphics cards. They're just not cheap.

darknoni
01-08-2010, 07:48 AM
I have a brand-new Acer Aspire One, 10.1" with Windows 7.

Trust me, you really don't want to play a current MMO on this thing. I'm honestly shocked that Mikhailov managed to get the STO client running. I'd have bet money that it'd be flat out impossible.

Anyway, bottom line is this:- you should be fine running old 2D games. No real issues there. Stuff like Fallout 1 and 2 works fine on my Aspire One.

3D games is where it gets tricky. It might run...or it might not. Even if it does run, it won't run all that well. I don't recommend it.

However, I will say it is an excellent little computer for most purposes. The build quality's pretty damn solid - Acer's seriously improved their reliability with these models. I recommend it. It's just not something you want to game on. It can run games, but that shouldn't be the point of a netbook.

A full-size laptop with a proper graphics card, on the other hand - that's an entirely different story. I can run Champions Online with pretty high settings on my Asus F8S laptop. It runs stuff like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, and so on.

If size is a concern, there are slimline laptops that still have good graphics cards. They're just not cheap.

I used to be able to run WoW almost lag free on my Acer. STO is definitely a different story. I didn't even see my phaser beams. It may run more smoothly in the far reaches of the galaxy where nobody goes.

voodooatl
01-08-2010, 08:08 AM
Just go for the Dell touch screen if you really want it, not any of the all in ones (save imac) have any real power.

Vabjekf
01-08-2010, 08:16 AM
Wants to play games :D
On a laptop :)
A cheap laptop :eek:
... netbook :(

You would be better off buying a regular laptop thats a few years old for the price.

Or trying to throw together some sort of budget desktop

laptops are already more expensive than desktops for games, and a little old netbook hardly has the power to push much.

I play morrowind on mine, but thats almost a 10 year old game.

And you are paying a lot for the size, a comparably priced regular-sized laptop would be better in all ways power wise.

Munku
01-08-2010, 08:28 AM
The reason I’m looking at the Acer aspire is because of its performance for the price at only $260 it performs exceptionally well. I remember 4-5 years ago a 1.6 ghz computer with a direct x9 supporting graphics card was consider a pretty good desktop computer, and now that same 15 pound 3 by 2 foot computer that’s almost a 12” thick has been crammed into roughly a 10x10 square that weighs only 2 pounds and is only an inch thick plus it has a screen and keyboard integrated but hay that’s moor’s law. So although it obviously won’t be able to play many new games, notebooks are a marvel of technology and maybe just maybe I can get one to play STO.

Unless it's dual core...don't bother. the Min Prereq's stated a dual core.