Borg

[cacklemango]

Will the Borg ever be a playable race? or strictly NPC enemies?

[CrazyVulcan]

nope just NPC they will atack random thorught the week

[Jenaside]

No, you won't be able to play the Borg. My understanding is that they will be the "HIGH END RAID CONTENT" of the game...

[overlordthor]

Borg dont have individuals so the Borg dont have captains or bridge crew in the sense that everyone else does, so it really isnt right for a player controlled ship.

I dont know about "raid content" but I understand they are supposed to be quite tough to destroy, taking a fleet or something(for a Cube anyway). they have said they arent going to do the big raid style end game stuff other games do in the end, though they'll be some of the really big things to take down together, we guess.

[CrazyVulcan]

they have said they arent going to do the big raid style end game stuff other games do in the end, though they'll be some of the really big things to take down together, we guess.

they did in a game informer interview a few months back they more or less said that from time to time the borg will raid a system and it is one of the main pve events you can choose to join in or not

[Rahyuht]

I still think It will be a playable race afterward In a expansion.Like WoW's new hero class.Death Knight. Mainly because I bet I can safely say at least 75% of us would like that Idea.

(I am Kirk of Borg You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.From this time forward, you will service us.)

[Kahless_Ruv]

Personally, I hope playing as a Borg is never an option. As far as I know, there has been no definite answer, but it is likely that you won't be able to play as a Borg drone.

[overlordthor]

Personally, I hope playing as a Borg is never an option. As far as I know, there has been no definite answer, but it is likely that you won't be able to play as a Borg drone.

I'm hoping you will never be able to either. Not even one of the freed borg minds from Voyagers Unimatrix Zero episodes.

[Deathclock]

I like the idea of borg not being a playable race and attacking randomly. its the way it should be. It would be cool if at times the federation and the klingons were in the same battle with the borg. It would be interesting to see if the battle continues agenst the borg or spills into all out caos.

[Rahyuht]

I don't understand why?You would get missions from the Hive and assimilate targets.Integrate beings and cultures into the collective.There not 100% Into assimilating people.There Into technology as well.So hijacking Starships & doing scans for assimilation would be kinda fun.Quest Rewards would be like Federation or Klingon technologies from the certain factions ship.Like gaining Cloak or Improved Warp.Sheilds & so on.All of this doesn't have to be from ships.We can go to homeworlds to do similar things with technology In structures.

I have many more Ideas,but I've typed a little to much as It Is:)

Just an Idea of why I think It could happen sometime In the future.

[Tiberius0311]

I do not think that is a good idea...I forsee a borg expansion doing what the NGE did to SWG. The borg would be way overpowered because well frankly they are. That is why that would be good for raid/server event but not as a playable race...And as far as cannon goes only Picard, 7 of 9 and those handful of brats were freed from the collective. Also it being 2409 I am sure the borg have worked on tech that brings their errant drones back into the fold more efficiently. Just my two pennies.

[Rahyuht]

I guess I agree with you there.The NGE messed up SWG badly lol to say the least.Sometimes I forget the Borg would be like the Jedi In SWG.Overpowered SOB's.Perhaps,but I was just trying to state the point that you can't say It would never happen.It could I careless I was gonna join Starfleet anyways lol Sometimes I just get creative :P One day however It could happen.They did say they might add more races later on & Borg could be one of the lasts.Unsure...(Nobody will know untill the day It happens)

[Tiberius0311]

I guess I agree with you there.The NGE messed up SWG badly lol to say the least.Sometimes I forget the Borg would be like the Jedi In SWG.Overpowered SOB's.Perhaps,but I was just trying to state the point that you can't say It would never happen.It could I careless I was gonna join Starfleet anyways lol Sometimes I just get creative :P One day however It could happen.They did say they might add more races later on & Borg could be one of the lasts.Unsure...(Nobody will know untill the day It happens)

Right and please do not think I was trying to flame you or be a troll. I just think that the Borg are that race that should instill that "fear" of confronting them. Like an Oh **it factor when a sphere or cube drops out of transwarp in front of you. I would feel like if another player were controlling it I would feel like I was just getting ganked b/c of the superiorness that is Borg lol. I just see it as the proverbial can of worms and making it a playable race is the can opener.

[Rahyuht]

I didn't think that you were trolling me :)

Made some good points In your post & I agree.Almost 100% turn around after you said NGE lol I'd explain why,but yeah Jedi-Borg hmm....Yeah both very overpowered.In different ways however,but yeah the end result could be the same.

Jedi were feared & now I laugh at the sight of them.I still play SWG so yeah I know.Let's leave the Borg being fearsome.Like the Jedi were In Old SWG.

Still could happen though,but lets not have a NGE In Star Trek Online :eek:

[sjooshh]

Maybe only some mission where u are playing a borg because u got assimilated, but via a smart medical methode u still are a indivudial, like on voyager. But the borg as playable race not a good idea.
U most be following orders too the letter then, and no costumazation of ship or person. Its a collective
like a bee hive hehe

No make the borg tuff enemy's that are fierd again like in TNG and First Contact.
U see Borg and u wanne run fight aint the option if u are alone.

[Arsinoe]

I think that when a borg cube drops out of warp before me i'l think 'I'm dead' :D

Still wouldn't go down easy. Ramming speed!

[ransomwk]

I thought I remembered reading that freed drones might become available as crew members, don't remember where though.

[cmhDK]

I agree with most here, they won't be playable
but I wish they would be, they have been known to create special "drones" that can think for themself
but to have them create thousands such drones would perhaps go too much against what they are

[Rahyuht]

Yeah I voted no myself after a thought was given.

[Arsinoe]

No leave the Borg as a rogue villain that on ocasion causes trouble. Don't make them a playable faction. :(

Besides as i'm sure has been mentioned before, they would be to overpowered. (assimilating technology from each player they kill, imagine) :eek:

[cmhDK]

No leave the Borg as a rogue villain that on ocasion causes trouble. Don't make them a playable faction. :(

Besides as i'm sure has been mentioned before, they would be to overpowered. (assimilating technology from each player they kill, imagine) :eek:

that is I belive the reason some would love to play as borg ;)

[ransomwk]

If Borg attacks are to be semi-regular things thrown at the players, it's conceivable that there may be occasional missions to board the Borg ship to capture technology or drones. This could lead to a small pool of available former drones to select from. Obtaining a former drone as a crew member could even be a result of a mission to capture a drone.

[OokieSpookie]

The Borg need to NEVER be playable.
Period.
Unless the player wants to completly give up their control to the ai, it is just not something that should be allowed.
The Borg individuals were a rarity, and it is bad enough that we will have countless people running around the galaxy clamining to be "half borg" in their character bios.
It is as bad as everyone wanting to be the "good drow".

[Kahless_Ruv]

The Borg need to NEVER be playable.
Period.
Unless the player wants to completly give up their control to the ai, it is just not something that should be allowed.
The Borg individuals were a rarity, and it is bad enough that we will have countless people running around the galaxy clamining to be "half borg" in their character bios.
It is as bad as everyone wanting to be the "good drow".

MajQa'!

Kahless be praised!

[Grox]

The Borg need to NEVER be playable.
Period.
Unless the player wants to completly give up their control to the ai, it is just not something that should be allowed.
The Borg individuals were a rarity, and it is bad enough that we will have countless people running around the galaxy clamining to be "half borg" in their character bios.
It is as bad as everyone wanting to be the "good drow".

How do you become half Borg I wonder?

[overlordthor]

How do you become half Borg I wonder?


Seven of Nine style characters. Freed Borg who retain some implants?

or the Picard style who has perhaps something under the skin left so he can still sometimes hear the borg. (First Contact)

[Grox]

Seven of Nine style characters. Freed Borg who retain some implants?

or the Picard style who has perhaps something under the skin left so he can still sometimes hear the borg. (First Contact)

I know, technically they are ex-borg and not half borg. I was trying to be a smart***. Apparently it didn't work.;)

[AxxoxRob]

It's funny cos the Grox were based off of teh Borg a reasonable amount.

[Grox]

It's funny cos the Grox were based off of teh Borg a reasonable amount.

Their name came from the borg actually. They spelled borg backwards and with an x instead of a b.

[KashikoiBaka]

Since you can create your character from scratch, more or less, you can make them a 'borg'. Might even be a few attribute skills that pertain to that style of character, Faster regeneration, personal shield perhaps. You can basically make any character you want to.

[cmhDK]

Since you can create your character from scratch, more or less, you can make them a 'borg'. Might even be a few attribute skills that pertain to that style of character, Faster regeneration, personal shield perhaps. You can basically make any character you want to.

but you won't be able to create a character that's an expert in just about everything, wich is I think what people want, and it's never going to happen

[KashikoiBaka]

but you won't be able to create a character that's an expert in just about everything, wich is I think what people want, and it's never going to happen

People always want an overpowered character. But playing a borg woulld really be no different then playing an android or a hologram. Just to play a borg in this game means to play an individual, so they wont have all those skill sets available to them any longer. Would be something for them to add to their back story should they choose. But that is the closest they are going to get.

[Captain.Hunter]

Personally, I hope playing as a Borg is never an option. As far as I know, there has been no definite answer, but it is likely that you won't be able to play as a Borg drone.

I hope it is never an option either.

Otherwise both the Federation and Klingon Empire will be filled with nothing but Borg clones. Really, how many Seven of Nines would there be on both sides if this was available?

Now as for a playable "monster" option (ala what they have in Lord of the Rings Online), I think Borg would be a great addition!

[cmhDK]

People always want an overpowered character. But playing a borg woulld really be no different then playing an android or a hologram. Just to play a borg in this game means to play an individual, so they wont have all those skill sets available to them any longer. Would be something for them to add to their back story should they choose. But that is the closest they are going to get.

then they wouldn't bee the borg :)

[ransomwk]

I can see them having some mission to board a Borg ship to capture a drone. The reward for this mission could be to keep the drone when they are separated from the collective.

Doing it this way would mean that having a former drone in your crew has some actual meaning. That crew member would be a mark of distinction if the mission is hard enough. Since the former drone would probably be over powered in at least one area, this would help keep the number of them down. Eventually they would become rather ubiquitous, but that could take a while depending on the nature of the mission. If it involved boarding a Borg Cube while it's attacking a friendly system, and while the Cube itself is being shot up by defenders, this could turn into a charlie foxtrot real quick.

[Leonidusroar]

I hope it is never an option either.

Otherwise both the Federation and Klingon Empire will be filled with nothing but Borg clones. Really, how many Seven of Nines would there be on both sides if this was available?

Now as for a playable "monster" option (ala what they have in Lord of the Rings Online), I think Borg would be a great addition!

I agree. You could become a generic Borg member. Or, perhaps, you and your ship are assimiated, and for a bit you fight with the Borg? I never liked the series with Seven of Nine, but if they could cure her, they could cure you. But, no, no, NO regular Borg characters.

[OokieSpookie]

I can see them having some mission to board a Borg ship to capture a drone. The reward for this mission could be to keep the drone when they are separated from the collective.

Doing it this way would mean that having a former drone in your crew has some actual meaning. That crew member would be a mark of distinction if the mission is hard enough. Since the former drone would probably be over powered in at least one area, this would help keep the number of them down. Eventually they would become rather ubiquitous, but that could take a while depending on the nature of the mission. If it involved boarding a Borg Cube while it's attacking a friendly system, and while the Cube itself is being shot up by defenders, this could turn into a charlie foxtrot real quick.


Fighting on a Borg cube? Yes.
Fighting Borg? Yes
Captured drones?
No...no no no no no no no.
Separated Borg are a massive rarity and have already been overdone.
Hopefully Cryptic will just take the easy way out and assume that the Borg have learned from their mistakes and now when a drone is separated it destructs taking any captain who tries it with it..

[KashikoiBaka]

Fighting on a Borg cube? Yes.
Fighting Borg? Yes
Captured drones?
No...no no no no no no no.
Separated Borg are a massive rarity and have already been overdone.
Hopefully Cryptic will just take the easy way out and assume that the Borg have learned from their mistakes and now when a drone is separated it destructs taking any captain who tries it with it..

We haven't seen the entire character creator but I'm sure there will be plenty of former Borg despite our wishes.. Much like there will be Saijins..Shouldn't be and yet... there they will be..

[OokieSpookie]

We haven't seen the entire character creator but I'm sure there will be plenty of former Borg despite our wishes.. Much like there will be Saijins..Shouldn't be and yet... there they will be..

I fully agree

[Arsinoe]

True, despite what i hope they will probably be in there. :(

[Reinkaos]

Well at least it seems like the Borg havelearned not just to send one ship anymore!

With that said, thinking about the inevitable conflicts with and defeats to the Borg, I've been wondering if they will adapt/upgrade their technology over the course of the game?

Say, if I have a run-in with the Borg on my tricked-out NX91001, with some cool new Fed technology that the Borg has never seen before. If/when I lose, will they then incorporate that technology (if they don't already have something better) or become more resistant to it? Or would that be just too overpowered?

I'm reminded of an enemy in Warcraft that gains a stacking "reduced damage taken" buff with every hit on him - would a similar mechanic work with the Borg? I feel it would be wrong to have the Borg as "static" enemies that don't adapt and such :o I realise they're meant to be hard as hell, and damage reducing buffs might make them essentially invincible if scaled wrongly.. unless it wasn't infinitely stacking, maybe it could cap at 50% or something.

TL;DR: What could Cryptic do to make the Borg a living, reacting entity that reacts and adapts to our various technologies (and maybe even tactics)?

[Strandberg]

Wasn't the balded borg women defeated in one of the movies? Wasn't the borg gone

[Reinkaos]

Wasn't the balded borg women defeated in one of the movies? Wasn't the borg gone

The Borg Queen (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Borg_Queen)? She/it/they appeared in Voyager a lot (both Alice Krige and.. someone else, and I'm not even sure if they were playing the same Borg Queen, or just different versions/replacements), and this was after the events in First Contact, so from that we can take it that the Borg weren't gone.

Also we can't be sure if Janeway killed the Borg or only dealt them significant damage, in infecting them with a virus and destroying one of their transwarp hubs.

They're certainly not gone in STO, look at the trailers (http://www.startrekonline.com/trailer) and screenshots (http://uploads.startrekonline.com/sto_screen12_0.jpg).

[overlordthor]

The Borg Queen (http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Borg_Queen)? She/it/they appeared in Voyager a lot (both Alice Krige and.. someone else, and I'm not even sure if they were playing the same Borg Queen, or just different versions/replacements), and this was after the events in First Contact, so from that we can take it that the Borg weren't gone.

Also we can't be sure if Janeway killed the Borg or only dealt them significant damage, in infecting them with a virus and destroying one of their transwarp hubs.

They're certainly not gone in STO, look at the trailers (http://www.startrekonline.com/trailer) and screenshots (http://uploads.startrekonline.com/sto_screen12_0.jpg).

While I'm not a fan of the Voyager doing so well against the Borg in the shows. They did not defeat the Borg completely just did a lot of damage to the Borg, particularly with the unimatrix Zero, freeing minds to hassle the borg, and with the virus at the end of future Janeway. The virus was said to do damage to the collective but that it would not destroy them, just cripple a section of the collective and not spread all over.

The Borg Queen, she was on the first Cube that assimilated Picard, the one in First Contact(which came after voyager) and all over the Voyager encoutners with the Borg. It's likely that the queen is copied among a lof of key places of borg activity.

[Reinkaos]

While I'm not a fan of the Voyager doing so well against the Borg in the shows. They did not defeat the Borg completely just did a lot of damage to the Borg, particularly with the unimatrix Zero, freeing minds to hassle the borg, and with the virus at the end of future Janeway. The virus was said to do damage to the collective but that it would not destroy them, just cripple a section of the collective and not spread all over.

The Borg Queen, she was on the first Cube that assimilated Picard, the one in First Contact(which came after voyager) and all over the Voyager encoutners with the Borg. It's likely that the queen is copied among a lof of key places of borg activity.

I'd forgotten about this, I wonder if it will play a part in STO :o will all the Borg we encounter be the mindless, evil you will be assimilated types, or will there be different Borg with different (perhaps even friendly) intentions? STO could flesh them out in so many ways :D