View Full Version : How Come No Mention of USS Titan and Captain Riker?
CaptainHoliday
05-15-2009, 12:58 PM
I am reading the Titan novel Taking Wing and I think its great.
However, there is no mention of the USS Titan on the Path series. I mean, there are already like 5 or 6 Titan novels. More to come. They must be selling well.
I know some of the Titan canon conflicts with the STO canon, but are they dropping the whole Titan missions from STO's canon?
Tamgros
05-15-2009, 01:00 PM
CBS has stated that only movies/TV series are canon. Those Titan books cannot be dropped from canon, simply because they were never part of canon...
Traveller
05-15-2009, 01:00 PM
maybe it odesnt tie in with the story therfor no need to put it in.
There loads of time for it to be added anyhow if there is a tie in.
Anichent
05-15-2009, 01:00 PM
I am reading the Titan novel Taking Wing and I think its great.
However, there is no mention of the USS Titan on the Path series. I mean, there are already like 5 or 6 Titan novels. More to come. They must be selling well.
I know some of the Titan canon conflicts with the STO canon, but are they dropping the whole Titan missions from STO's canon?
They actually have been taking almost all of the Romulan plot after Nemesis from Titan....and yet, you're right they seem to leave out Titan and counter some of it :s
Idk what Cryptic is up to
Jerosh_Skitari
05-15-2009, 01:02 PM
CBS has stated that only movies/TV series are canon. Those Titan books cannot be dropped from canon, simply because they were never part of canon...
Either way, it was mentioned in Star Trek: Nemesis that Riker would be captain of the Titan. Although it could just be that Captain Riker hasn't done anything important in the STO timeline :D.
Aethelstan
05-15-2009, 01:03 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but did they no say in one of their earliest interviews that they are doing exactly that. Reading the novels, and picking and choosing the bits they like while discarding what they don't want?
I haven't personally read Titan or really any books apart from a few TOS ones so I have no idea how much is being used/rejected, but I'm pretty sure thats the situation.
J.L.Picard
05-15-2009, 01:05 PM
I am reading the Titan novel Taking Wing and I think its great.
However, there is no mention of the USS Titan on the Path series. I mean, there are already like 5 or 6 Titan novels. More to come. They must be selling well.
I know some of the Titan canon conflicts with the STO canon, but are they dropping the whole Titan missions from STO's canon?
I havent read the titan novels but dont they conflict witht the Canon?? The titan did not go exploring instead it went to Romulas to be the lead for negotiations with the Romulans??
Am I wrong here?
Anichent
05-15-2009, 01:06 PM
I havent read the titan novels but dont they conflict witht the Canon?? The titan did not go exploring instead it went to Romulas to be the lead for negotiations with the Romulans??
Am I wrong here?
Yes, you are.
Well Partly,
You're wrong that it conflicts with canon. I have read all the Titan books, except for the last one. I havent goten to it yet, but most of them are about Titan exploring. Its just the first ones that talk about their mission to Romulus. But nothin conflicts with canon in anyway.
Condemnation
05-15-2009, 01:08 PM
I havent read the titan novels but dont they conflict witht the Canon?? The titan did not go exploring instead it went to Romulas to be the lead for negotiations with the Romulans??
Am I wrong here?
Thats what i heard.
I haven't read them ether. The borders by my place doesn't carry Trek, much to my dismay.
I'm betting that in this timeline Riker and the Titan did go exploring and are out there on the fronter somewhere for us to find.
ransomwk
05-15-2009, 01:09 PM
They could pull from Titan when making some of the missions out in the frontier sectors.
ransomwk
05-15-2009, 01:11 PM
I havent read the titan novels but dont they conflict witht the Canon?? The titan did not go exploring instead it went to Romulas to be the lead for negotiations with the Romulans??
Am I wrong here?
It started out that way, but then went off in a whole other direction.
Elta_and_Zletha
05-15-2009, 01:46 PM
Captain Riker and Titan may not be mentioned in the ST:O timeline yet...
However I'm pretty sure that the Titan's design, Luna-class, will be in the game (or hoping =P)
Ooo, that'll be our epic ship! =D
J.L.Picard
05-15-2009, 01:50 PM
Captain Riker and Titan may not be mentioned in the ST:O timeline yet...
However I'm pretty sure that the Titan's design, Luna-class, will be in the game (or hoping =P)
Ooo, that'll be our epic ship! =D
since the Luna is the replacement for the Nebula thee is no reason why it shouldn't. Personally i don't like the way it looks a bit like a poor man's Sovereign with some Akira thrown in for good measure.
ransomwk
05-15-2009, 01:57 PM
Captain Riker and Titan may not be mentioned in the ST:O timeline yet...
However I'm pretty sure that the Titan's design, Luna-class, will be in the game (or hoping =P)
Ooo, that'll be our epic ship! =D
It is a canon ship since it was mentioned in Nemesis, and it would be a bad ass science ship. Except I intend to play Klingon, so it'll be a bad ass target lol
Anichent
05-15-2009, 02:12 PM
since the Luna is the replacement for the Nebula thee is no reason why it shouldn't. Personally i don't like the way it looks a bit like a poor man's Sovereign with some Akira thrown in for good measure.
Luna was actually intended to be a replacement for the Miranda I believe
CaptainHoliday
05-15-2009, 04:37 PM
I hope the Luna-Class is in STO, it is indeed a bad ass ship, which I would want for exploration. I hope it looks like my avatar.
Anichent
05-15-2009, 05:00 PM
I hope the Luna-Class is in STO, it is indeed a bad ass ship, which I would want for exploration. I hope it looks like my avatar.
If it doesn't look like your avatar I'll cry lol
Chillee
05-15-2009, 05:34 PM
Also remember that whatever Cryptic does with proposed storyline, they need it vetted and approved by CBS first. Even pictures they put up on their website from the game's development need to be approved. I guarantee it.
Arachnidus
05-15-2009, 06:28 PM
Luna was actually intended to be a replacement for the Miranda I believe
Actually, I recall it being a new Constitution- versatile scientific vessels with good enough armaments to stave off attackers. Eh, we'll never get a solid answer for that one, but, hey, who cares, it's an awesome ship!
CaptainHoliday
05-15-2009, 06:29 PM
Actually, I recall it being a new Constitution- versatile scientific vessels with good enough armaments to stave off attackers. Eh, we'll never get a solid answer for that one, but, hey, who cares, it's an awesome ship!
It indeed is an awesome ship. If Cryptic makes a Luna-class for STO, you can can bet its on top of my list of ships to own, ahead of the NX-91001 and Akira
KashikoiBaka
05-15-2009, 06:46 PM
"It was never canonically revealed what type of ship the Titan was supposed to be, and it was never shown on screen. In non-canon source, the supplement Starships released for the Decipher Star Trek Roleplaying Game, suggests the Titan was a brand-new Prometheus-class vessel. In the novel series Star Trek: Titan, it is stated that the Titan was not the first ship of its class, with that honor going to the pathfinder of the class, the USS Luna, and that all Luna-class ships, such as the Titan, were named for moons in the Sol system. The novels also suggested the ship's registry number to be NCC-80102. Neither of these are canonical.
Pocket Books has released a series of novels, called Star Trek: Titan, which is based aboard Riker's ship. A competition to design the new vessel was held. Despite early conjectures that the Titan would be as large as its name suggests, the stipulations of the contest reveal that the ship is approximately 450 meters long, which is notably smaller than the last two starships Enterprise, and is only slightly bigger than the Intrepid class. The contest rules established that within the novels' continuity, the Luna class has a crew complement of 350 and is intended as an extended-mission, deep-space explorer, apparently as a result of Starfleet's efforts to get back on an exploration standing following the Dominion War.
The winning design appeared similar to the Sovereign-class, but on a smaller scale, and with a "roll-bar" above the saucer section, similar to that found on the Akira-class.
From Memory Alpha http://memory-alpha.org/en/index.php/USS_Titan
Chillee
05-15-2009, 08:25 PM
Ironically enough, the Starships book from Decipher was vetted by Paramount (like everything else in the LUG and Decipher versions of Star Trek RPG). So, they are as close to canon as a non-canon source can be.