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jeremytrewin
05-15-2009, 07:17 AM
Ok, i'm pretty damn confused about this. I've read the "all we know of STO", but I'm still stuck.

Warning, I'm a star trek newbie, so sorry for obvious answers to questions!

So atm, at launch we can play two factions, the federation and klingon. I myself will probably go for klingon to begin with. So these are my first few questions;

I've never really seen a race diversity on a klingon ship, how much to an extent can we vary our crew/away team? Will there be a limit such as, at least one klingon, or at least half your crew being klingon?
What extent of races can we recruit? Will there be no limit in choosing races such as vulcan for a klingon crew, or are we most likely going to have to create one in the character creator? I'm aware we will pick up new races for a crew throughout the game.

I know the guide says all players will start with a humanoid character. How does this apply, just for the federation? Wouldn't it being klingon for klingon lol?

Ahhh I'm so confused :S I've never even seen a federation ship being captained by a non-human, except for temporary measures. Plus if we have to start with humans, will that automatically be our captain or can replace our captain?

Finally for now... can anyone give me a rundown on the realistic race options we will have for each faction? We know a few already but I'm still in the shadows about the federation.

Sorry for the spam of questions, just trying to understand whats going on with our crew races. Cheers.

Loekii
05-15-2009, 07:26 AM
I think both sides will have complete racial diversity.

They have not given us the 'reason' for Klingon ships having non-Klingon crews yet, but I am sure they will.

I think the only limitation is that 'Core' faction races will be limited to their faction. This means no official Vulcans on your Klingon ships, but you could make a race that looks like Vulcans and 'pretend' it is a Vulcan.

I expect that only the 'Core' Races will have a 'Race Name', and that any Customized race, regardless of the basis, will be have a generic Race Name (ie simply Race: Other). Thus you can make a Vulcan looking toon on the Klingon side, but the Race name will simply appear as Other. This is just my guess.

The only Core Races that I think so far are:

Federation:

Human
Vulcan
Andorian
Not sure what else will be 'officially a Core Race'.

Klingon

Klingons
Gorn
Orion
Naussican

Kade
05-15-2009, 08:03 AM
Ok, i'm pretty damn confused about this. I've read the "all we know of STO", but I'm still stuck.

Warning, I'm a star trek newbie, so sorry for obvious answers to questions!

So atm, at launch we can play two factions, the federation and klingon. I myself will probably go for klingon to begin with. So these are my first few questions;

I've never really seen a race diversity on a klingon ship, how much to an extent can we vary our crew/away team? Will there be a limit such as, at least one klingon, or at least half your crew being klingon?
What extent of races can we recruit? Will there be no limit in choosing races such as vulcan for a klingon crew, or are we most likely going to have to create one in the character creator? I'm aware we will pick up new races for a crew throughout the game.

I know the guide says all players will start with a humanoid character. How does this apply, just for the federation? Wouldn't it being klingon for klingon lol?

Ahhh I'm so confused :S I've never even seen a federation ship being captained by a non-human, except for temporary measures. Plus if we have to start with humans, will that automatically be our captain or can replace our captain?

Finally for now... can anyone give me a rundown on the realistic race options we will have for each faction? We know a few already but I'm still in the shadows about the federation.

Sorry for the spam of questions, just trying to understand whats going on with our crew races. Cheers.

Loekii hit things pretty well. Just wanted to point one other thing out for you. Klingons are humanoid. Humanoid refers to any creature that has 2 arms, two legs, walks (fairly) upright, has a head. Basically taking the overall shape (not appearance) of a human. Humanoid does not mean human. It means human-like in form.

Oh, and yeah, I plan to play Klingon as well and, being a person who likes to have things as close to they are in the shows, I just can't wrap my mind around having a crew of anything other than Klingons. I hope they allow Klingon crew to have as varied of skill set as to to match the multiple races of the Federation available in Klingon form. Course, I may have have an Orion female or two on board, lol. You know what they say. Once you go Orion the other aren't worth tryin'. ;)

Anichent
05-15-2009, 09:26 AM
Ok, i'm pretty damn confused about this. I've read the "all we know of STO", but I'm still stuck.

Warning, I'm a star trek newbie, so sorry for obvious answers to questions!

So atm, at launch we can play two factions, the federation and klingon. I myself will probably go for klingon to begin with. So these are my first few questions;

I've never really seen a race diversity on a klingon ship, how much to an extent can we vary our crew/away team? Will there be a limit such as, at least one klingon, or at least half your crew being klingon?
What extent of races can we recruit? Will there be no limit in choosing races such as vulcan for a klingon crew, or are we most likely going to have to create one in the character creator? I'm aware we will pick up new races for a crew throughout the game.

I know the guide says all players will start with a humanoid character. How does this apply, just for the federation? Wouldn't it being klingon for klingon lol?

Ahhh I'm so confused :S I've never even seen a federation ship being captained by a non-human, except for temporary measures. Plus if we have to start with humans, will that automatically be our captain or can replace our captain?

Finally for now... can anyone give me a rundown on the realistic race options we will have for each faction? We know a few already but I'm still in the shadows about the federation.

Sorry for the spam of questions, just trying to understand whats going on with our crew races. Cheers.

Humanoid means arms, legs, (tails?) not HUMAN so Klingona are humanoid too :p

And Federation ships are commanded by non-humans all the time. Any Federation citizen that joins Starfleet, and advances in rank to Captain can be a Starfleet Captian. The USS Rhea had a Saurian captain for example.

We don't have to start with humans, we can start with any humanoid race, from Trill to Vulcan to Telerite, to Bolian, to Gorn, to Antaran etc etc.

A Non-humanoid race would be something that has fins, and lives in the water. Or a Tholian. Or a slug-like creature,

Race options for Federation means.....you can create just about any race, or choose from what I assume is hundreds of canon races. Don't worry. Federation isn't a human only club....There are over 30 billion Andorians on Andor, nevermind its colonies. There are 9 Billion Humans on earth, nevermind other human worlds and colonies, almost 7 billion Vulcans on Vulcan, 20 billion Caitian in the Federation. The shows showed mostly humans for budget costs, and because we as viewers better relate to humans, but in reality, humans are just a member of the Federation - One that likely equals less than 1/20th of the Federation population....likely close to 1% of the Federation population.

Examples can also be looking at Federation presidents, which have included Humans, Efrosians, Grazerites, and Bolians.

jeremytrewin
05-15-2009, 11:09 AM
cheers guys, all 3 posts pretty much answered everything that was stiring around in my head and lawl about the orions ^^

Though even our predictions might not be right :S

Also about the core races being limited to certain factions, this is logical, though didn't I read somewhere you might investigate races on your travels that may be very similar to our core races? And therefore you can recruit them, either easily or difficulty depending on their alliances? I surpose this is logical too...

And ye I forgot about the race: other, best way of sorting created races i think.

Cheers anyway, my mind is much more at rest now.


Edit: Though I'm sure they won't make 100's of canon races to start off from in the federation :S Maybe more like 20? Then I surpose you can gain more throughout the game.

Anichent
05-15-2009, 11:28 AM
Cheers anyway, my mind is much more at rest now.


Edit: Though I'm sure they won't make 100's of canon races to start off from in the federation :S Maybe more like 20? Then I surpose you can gain more throughout the game.

Since you get to choose you're race as Captain, it would make sense they they include all created races at the start, since once you make your Captain you are comitted.

Evertras
05-15-2009, 11:34 AM
Since you get to choose you're race as Captain, it would make sense they they include all created races at the start, since once you make your Captain you are comitted.

I'd imagine they'll add more "core" races as the game develops.

Back to WoW for the nth time, but they added blood elves and draenei after plenty of people had a well-established "main" of another class at 60. It only added diversity and options, I don't remember a single complaint.

Anichent
05-15-2009, 11:37 AM
I'd imagine they'll add more "core" races as the game develops.

Back to WoW for the nth time, but they added blood elves and draenei after plenty of people had a well-established "main" of another class at 60. It only added diversity and options, I don't remember a single complaint.

Star rek has over 40 years of history....WoW didn't lol

Evertras
05-15-2009, 11:38 AM
Star rek has over 40 years of history....WoW didn't lol

Yeah, that's where the analogy hits a brick wall. :D

The more to start the merrier, but I'd be surprised if they didn't add more stuff as time goes on. With the race creator I think people will find something they like anyway.

devon
05-15-2009, 11:47 AM
I think both sides will have complete racial diversity.
The only Core Races that I think so far are:

Federation:

Human
Vulcan
Andorian
Not sure what else will be 'officially a Core Race'.

Klingon

Klingons
Gorn
Orion
Naussican




I think Tellarites have been a confirmed Federation Race.

jeremytrewin
05-15-2009, 05:28 PM
I'd imagine they'll add more "core" races as the game develops.

Back to WoW for the nth time, but they added blood elves and draenei after plenty of people had a well-established "main" of another class at 60. It only added diversity and options, I don't remember a single complaint.

lol the blood elf for the horde caused uproar ^^ everyone still hates male blood-elves but was forgiven by the pervetish sides of us gamers enjoying the female-bloodelves.

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Ok well, are you sure you can't change your captain after start? I'm guessing not I suppose.

But I still disagree with the amount of races they will have for your captain. Although you might say there are 100's of core races (fully known and discovered), I'm sure cryptic won't treat it this way and say they're actually "core" races to the game. I think we will be relying on the character creator to delve into the more imaginable, less known core races.

Plus, as someone said there might be restrictions depending on your faction, which races you can be for your captain.

Kahless_Ruv
05-15-2009, 05:38 PM
The idea of a non-Klingon serving on board an Imperial Klingon Ship is disturbing.

However, as mentioned earlier, my crew will probably require a couple of Orion girls on board...