The future of STO

[Golic]

I think Cryptic would have to have a beef with Abrams after what that twit did to Trek.
Now STO will be forever considered 'old Trek.'
When the cool kids, fresh from the cinemas having seen Abram's Trek, visit STO.com they will immediately discover the games setting then bundle it into the 'old Trek' category and never want anything to do with it.

I am concerned that this revelation may influence the further development of STO.

I love old Trek. And I was really looking forward to STO.

However businesses tend to make business decisions.

The STO we all dreamed would one day come to be may very well be at risk.

[CaptainHoliday]

I think Cryptic would have to have a beef with Abrams after what that twit did to Trek.
Now STO will be forever considered 'old Trek.'
When the cool kids, fresh from the cinemas having seen Abram's Trek, visit STO.com they will immediately discover the games setting then bundle it into the 'old Trek' category and never want anything to do with it.

I am concerned that this revelation may influence the further development of STO.

I love old Trek. And I was really looking forward to STO.

However businesses tend to make business decisions.

The STO we all dreamed would one day come to be may very well be at risk.

STO is coming out, no question about that.

Future games, however, may indeed be set in the new JJ Verse.

[KODudna]

I do think that much of the new crowd being attracted by JJ's Trek movie will get curious and look into "old Trek" as you call it. Hey, many of them may like it. Maybe they'll give STO a try, and like that too. We don't know. I wouldn't worry too much though.

[Tamgros]

Contrary to some people's opinion, the two timelines really aren't all that different. They are still both Trek.

Nothing is preventing future original star trek shows, tie ins, etc. If the game is good, few will care what time period or what timeline it is in.

[qoona]

remember that ther is some physical connection between new timeline and old timeline ( in eaning of parell universes), and possibly between new timeline and mirror universe.

[Golic]

STO is coming out, no question about that.

Future games, however, may indeed be set in the new JJ Verse.

was it really necessary to quote the OP when you were only the second post? LOL

[Bigwig]

was it really necessary to quote the OP when you were only the second post? LOL

Does it matter? And did it really require a whole new post in your own topic about the matter? :rolleyes:

[Golic]

since I asked. I would say yes it does.

[The-Raver]

The film changes nothing for this game and there are still enough pople interested in old trek to make it work.

[Golic]

I can only imagine how many millions have been invested in STO only to have JJ Abram's come along and turn the franchise into Star Wars.
I think a few of you have missed this point.
The abomination that is Star Trek XI may (when I say may I mean will) affect Cryptics ability to make a living.
I'd be angry if I were Cryptic.

[Corehaven22]

Hey its Star Trek. Like I said before, Kotor wasnt set in the same period of time as Star Wars. It was set a thousand or more years before hand and did very well for itself.

Alternate time line or whatever, its still Star Trek.

I grew up on the Next Generation. That was a very different feel and time from the TOS. But it sparked a big interest in me to explore older Star Trek content.

Hopefully, this film will do a plenty bit of good for STO. The OP had some legitimate worries. But I also think he is overstating matters. Star Trek needed a boost. And we got that. Alternate time line, different era. Its all the same. Its still Trek. The fact that STO is set in the far future of the property, which is the exact opposite of Star Trek (movie), is a good thing. Being that the two are so far apart in time and relation to each other, that I dont think its much of a concern.

Im just glad the movie is doing well. And there's only been one. Even if its an awsome success, I think we still have awhile to wait before folks start referring to the ten or so movies before it, and all the hundreds of shows given beforehand as "old trek".

And I think the movies success will help this game. At least in sales. It could be worse. The movie could have been horrible. And that would have been bad for STO.

[FalconDarkwing]

Golic, your throwing this out of proportion. i think you just dont like the movie and it effected your veiw of the game. it is apparently not the case based on other posts. so what. the new movie was about an alternate time line. it allows new twists and ideas to come out of the oldercharacters into new adventures. it will attract a new crowd and keep old fans interested in to what ifs they had or what else could happen if circumstances were diffrent. i think the new star trek was a good idea.

as for the game well most gammers and movie fans dont always do the same thing. for MMO fans. i dont think witch time line will matter mutch as long as they get to interact with the development of the games story line when it is out. i thought the alternate time line was a good twist to the tv/movie series. and the game will be a good addition to either time line based on the work put into it no matter witch it is.

[jamzgub]

if i were cryptic id be happy it would bring me more players/.payers, and id also wish people would all stop making the same dumbass threads about the same dumbass stuff

but hey im not cryptic,

[Golic]

Golic, your throwing this out of proportion. i think you just dont like the movie and it effected your veiw of the game. it is apparently not the case based on other posts. so what. the new movie was about an alternate time line. it allows new twists and ideas to come out of the oldercharacters into new adventures. it will attract a new crowd and keep old fans interested in to what ifs they had or what else could happen if circumstances were diffrent. i think the new star trek was a good idea.

as for the game well most gammers and movie fans dont always do the same thing. for MMO fans. i dont think witch time line will matter mutch as long as they get to interact with the development of the games story line when it is out. i thought the alternate time line was a good twist to the tv/movie series. and the game will be a good addition to either time line based on the work put into it no matter witch it is.

be that as it may, it will be a poorer Star Trek experience for it.

[Im-Kris]

Most people who will have gone to see Star Trek will be Star Trek fans, and STO have stated that they are following the, as you say 'old' Star Trek.

Anyone who was going to play this game will have been a star trek fan, and they still will.

If anything it will be throwing more people into playing the game.

[FalconDarkwing]

Most people who will have gone to see Star Trek will be Star Trek fans, and STO have stated that they are following the, as you say 'old' Star Trek.

Anyone who was going to play this game will have been a star trek fan, and they still will.

If anything it will be throwing more people into playing the game.

maybe for you. for me i think it will not change it. the universe is an ever changing expierience. anything can happen out in space. thnk of all the alternate time line and time travel stuff theyve done in movies and tv shows of star trek. and yet it still remains one of the ultimate sci fi shows of all time

[Warston]

I don't think Cryptic is mad seeing as they wrote their road to 2409 to mirror that of the events prior to the movie >.> they seemed to embrace it pretty well. Although they will be staying with Roddenberry's time line they followed both the movie and TOS canon.

CANT WE ALL JUST ENJOY BOTH AS STAR TREK!!??

[mercurian88]

I agree with CommanderReed that the movie can only be good for STO. Anything that raises Star Trek's profile - and introduces it to a new audience - can only be good for the game's sales. Star Trek's had a quiet few years with no new series being made, so anything that ignites interest in the brand ahead of STO's launch can only help Cryptic.

[RunnerChase]

I hope your wrong, I hope.:(

[Fixed]

If anything the film will attract more users to this game. Its coming out and its going to be epic (i hope).

[FalconDarkwing]

it WILL be epic. no need to hope :)

[Riska]

I think Cryptic would have to have a beef with Abrams after what that twit did to Trek.
When the cool kids, fresh from the cinemas having seen Abram's Trek, visit STO.com they will immediately discover the games setting then bundle it into the 'old Trek' category and never want anything to do with it.


Technically, these "cool kids" you talk about? Well the very label of "cool" probably means these people who enjoyed the film but didn't like the older Star Treks in fear of being "uncool" would never pick up and play an MMO for the same reason. That aside, had the movie - which was brilliant btw, i'm a long standing matrix fan and even I admit that this was a far superior film in every way to anything in that franchise - never been made, surely the people who would have liked it and be interested in the older Treks would never have looked at the game in the first place?

As it has been said a few times here, a good film that has been both critically and commercially received can not be a bad thing for a game in the same franchise.

[Loekii]

Will it affect the STO development? Probably not (outside bringing in more customers and interest).

Will it affect future Star Trek media? Sure.

If the 'Reboot' is more popular than the 'classic', then they will go with what people want.

The 'Classic' Trek was not enough to keep Paramount interested in developing the franchise, but this Reboot might.

[Aeneas]

I dont see what you mean OP

THe movie SHouldnt affect the Trek.IF it does.IZT will affect it in a better way

[Aeneas]

Technically, these "cool kids" you talk about? Well the very label of "cool" probably means these people who enjoyed the film but didn't like the older Star Treks in fear of being "uncool" would never pick up and play an MMO for the same reason. That aside, had the movie - which was brilliant btw, i'm a long standing matrix fan and even I admit that this was a far superior film in every way to anything in that franchise - never been made, surely the people who would have liked it and be interested in the older Treks would never have looked at the game in the first place?

As it has been said a few times here, a good film that has been both critically and commercially received can not be a bad thing for a game in the same franchise.

I agree with you. THose that like it will Be more intereste doprobally and More people are now more liekly to check up on the game and stuff due to the movie

[Rahyuht]

Even If so to the OP's question.Star Trek Online I'm sure will have expansions & patches that could perhaps help tie In with the New Star Trek (2009) movie.

[Aeneas]

Even If so to the OP's question.Star Trek Online I'm sure will have expansions & patches that could perhaps help tie In with the New Star Trek (2009) movie.

isnt the movie though based on the Old TOS time??

If i remeber right9 i could be wrong) STO is based further in the future then the other Star Trek series.

[-Rufus-]

Even If so to the OP's question.Star Trek Online I'm sure will have expansions & patches that could perhaps help tie In with the New Star Trek (2009) movie.

The already did the only possible tie-in, which was the most recent "Path to 2409" article. Beyond that there is no tie-in possible, as its two different universes. Besides, the movie is set in the 23rd century, whereas STO is set in the beginning of the 25th.

[spskeff2]

i actually just got back from seeing the new film. not to get into the movie itself...but as a long-time trek fan, i am TOTALLY in line with how the approach was handled. Others may not be and that's fine...but the new film just goes to show me the whole underlying theme to Star Trek and that is: Anything is possible.

Star Trek Online will continue the story we know and love with respect to the "TNG Era." Read the latest path to 2409 and then go see the new film. If you want a more visual depiction, i strongly reccomend you read Star Trek Countdown comic.

I'm gonna say it: Star Trek is reborn between the new film and the upcoming MMO that we all patiently await. The canon is there and intact....just use your imagination is all :)

Live Long and Prosper.

[Alekks]

...The abomination that is Star Trek XI ...

Hmm, that's not quite the description I would have for Star Trek XI and I have been a fan of the franchise since the early 70s. I am about as much of a Trek-purist and canon-conscious fan as you can get and definitely had concerns about what JJ and crew might do to the continuity and established canon of the franchise.

However, what I saw was a well done story that carefully avoided any corruption of the "original timeline" we're all familiar with. All we witness regarding the original timeline is the destruction of Romulus, which Cryptic has already dropped into the "Path to 2409" timeline. So, in 2387, as a result of a supernova induced chain of events, Romulus goes kaboom, and <Spoiler Incoming> Spock is officially missing and presumed dead, though we know he is actually in the alternate timeline and alive and well.

Having it stated on-screen that when Nero went back in time, he instantly created an alternate timeline is a very clever way of letting the folks, like me, know that the original timeline is not going to be altered in any way and the chain of events that unfold in Star Trek XI are doing so in an alternate timeline and can be slightly (or drastically) different from the original timeline. Now if someone well versed in Quantum Theory or Temporal Mechanics wants to debate what JJ and crew has done to resolve the timeline corruption issue then they can have at it. I for one can be entertained by the events in either timeline.

This also gives JJ and crew somewhat of a blank check to do what they want in that alternate timeline. The intrigue now will be to see which of the events that happened in the original timeline also take place in the alternate timeline and which ones do not or are changed slightly. Who knows, maybe Sulu actually gets his command early this time around when he was "supposed" to. :)

[spskeff2]

Alekks, You beat me to it, my friend :)

[Chillee]

I am a Star Trek fanatic.
I am devoted to the lore and canon established over 40+ years of Star Trek history.
I love the new film. It is also Star Trek, embarking on its own new course. Its something that a true fan, one who understands that Vulcan concept of IInfinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations (IDIC), would quickly adapt.

The OP feels anger and loss where none truly exists.

[Serran]

STO will take place in the "past*" setting of ST Universe. While the new movie may gain new fans for the franchise, the true ones will value the lore and setting of the genre. Do we need to appease the "i-want-this-now-either-i-go-and-cry-mom." -crowd really? I think not.

*past being past thought before this new ST movie which is set before everything in time... confusing eh? ;)

[FalconDarkwing]

isnt the movie though based on the Old TOS time??

If i remeber right9 i could be wrong) STO is based further in the future then the other Star Trek series.

yes you are right. the movie is based on the original series in an ALTERNATE reality. its pretty mutch just a diffrent story for the star trek universe. wont effect the franchise in the slightest onlly bring in new fans.

as for people picking up Star Trek Online and assuming its of the original series of star trek time line, then they have no buissness playing it. it clearly states on the oficial web page its in the 25th century. it will probly say it on the game box as well. i do beleive the original series was durring what.. the 23rd century?

[mook42]

I do think that much of the new crowd being attracted by JJ's Trek movie will get curious and look into "old Trek" as you call it. Hey, many of them may like it. Maybe they'll give STO a try, and like that too. We don't know. I wouldn't worry too much though.

agreed :)

[robgomm]

I think Cryptic would have to have a beef with Abrams after what that twit did to Trek.
Now STO will be forever considered 'old Trek.'
When the cool kids, fresh from the cinemas having seen Abram's Trek, visit STO.com they will immediately discover the games setting then bundle it into the 'old Trek' category and never want anything to do with it.

I am concerned that this revelation may influence the further development of STO.

I love old Trek. And I was really looking forward to STO.

However businesses tend to make business decisions.

The STO we all dreamed would one day come to be may very well be at risk.

My god how negative is this post!