"hero" Npc Ships: Entrpise F?

[tonymetpolice]

obviouly there are some ships and name which will be DEV controlled and you might encounter on your way. im thinking famous names which will probably be encountered on your quest and random missions. the names will obviously be off line for you to choose for yur own ship. think Defiant, Excelsior, Voyager and obviously Enterprise!

but what form will they take? going b the time line the Enterprse E will 40 years old and eithr be nar retirement if not aleady or destroyed? Enterprise has always been the Starfleet flagship and generally th most advancd ship. 1701-F? im thinking the new NX class that was unveiled? a cool missio would involve interacting with the new Enterprise on her first voyage (NX remember) when they have a crisis on the maiden voyage.

Defiant: its been shown there will be defiant classes but again this will be 40 years in the future. butmight the kep the original around so you could interat with it? that would be cool. if not maybe a new class. would have to be kick ass though!

how would you like these "big name" ships to be includdint he game?

[vtack]

that's an interesting take on the issue of ships that we know will still be around. There's no point in trying to hide the Enterprise. I mean there's going to be a sovereign class ship out there named Enterprise might as well be able to interact with it.

From the time line as far as we know Voyager is now a museum. The Enterprise may or may not be a new class ship (i think the NX-91001 is just a registry number of a particular sovereign class ship and not a new class unto itself) or perhaps the Soveriegn version fo teh Enterprise is still out and about or perhaps a new class has taken the name. As for the Defiant (well the rechristened Sao Paulo) she's a tough little ship and I'm sure she's still out there and kicking around.

It'd be nice to have a starting sequence when you're doing your initial training that you can go explore the Voyager musuem for some extra bonuses. And maybe an escort mission where you're paired with the Defiant to get a particularly important ship of (insent technobable here) through the neutral zone.

But the Enterprise, well the Enterprise should be a player controlled ship. It should shift possession once every few months in a manner to be determined by Cryptic. Imagine the competitions they could come up with to transfer possession of the most storied ships in the fleet. I trully hope that Cryptic has something special and amazing planned for the Enterprise.

[tonymetpolice]

that's an interesting take on the issue of ships that we know will still be around. There's no point in trying to hide the Enterprise. I mean there's going to be a sovereign class ship out there named Enterprise might as well be able to interact with it.

From the time line as far as we know Voyager is now a museum. The Enterprise may or may not be a new class ship (i think the NX-91001 is just a registry number of a particular sovereign class ship and not a new class unto itself) or perhaps the Soveriegn version fo teh Enterprise is still out and about or perhaps a new class has taken the name. As for the Defiant (well the rechristened Sao Paulo) she's a tough little ship and I'm sure she's still out there and kicking around.

It'd be nice to have a starting sequence when you're doing your initial training that you can go explore the Voyager musuem for some extra bonuses. And maybe an escort mission where you're paired with the Defiant to get a particularly important ship of (insent technobable here) through the neutral zone.

But the Enterprise, well the Enterprise should be a player controlled ship. It should shift possession once every few months in a manner to be determined by Cryptic. Imagine the competitions they could come up with to transfer possession of the most storied ships in the fleet. I trully hope that Cryptic has something special and amazing planned for the Enterprise.

i definetly agree. it would be crazy that the ship that most star trek series are based around wasnt included in a big way. thats quite a creative idea with the enterprise being put up for posession. that would be easily become one of the most desirible things to acquire in the ame, even if it was only for a shortpriod of time!

[JPJappic]

But the Enterprise, well the Enterprise should be a player controlled ship. It should shift possession once every few months in a manner to be determined by Cryptic. Imagine the competitions they could come up with to transfer possession of the most storied ships in the fleet. I trully hope that Cryptic has something special and amazing planned for the Enterprise.

I disagree with this. I'd hate to have the Enterprise bearing a soiled reputation because someone did some horrible things while in command of the ship.

[ShawnCooks]

that's an interesting take on the issue of ships that we know will still be around. There's no point in trying to hide the Enterprise. I mean there's going to be a sovereign class ship out there named Enterprise might as well be able to interact with it.

From the time line as far as we know Voyager is now a museum. The Enterprise may or may not be a new class ship (i think the NX-91001 is just a registry number of a particular sovereign class ship and not a new class unto itself) or perhaps the Soveriegn version fo teh Enterprise is still out and about or perhaps a new class has taken the name. As for the Defiant (well the rechristened Sao Paulo) she's a tough little ship and I'm sure she's still out there and kicking around.

It'd be nice to have a starting sequence when you're doing your initial training that you can go explore the Voyager musuem for some extra bonuses. And maybe an escort mission where you're paired with the Defiant to get a particularly important ship of (insent technobable here) through the neutral zone.

But the Enterprise, well the Enterprise should be a player controlled ship. It should shift possession once every few months in a manner to be determined by Cryptic. Imagine the competitions they could come up with to transfer possession of the most storied ships in the fleet. I trully hope that Cryptic has something special and amazing planned for the Enterprise.


it would be cool be control the Enterprise but then they take it away and what do you get. I think that the Enterprise should be NPC controled and have a big part in the game I thing all the show ships should have a big part in the game and to see and/or talk with their staff

[tonymetpolice]

I disagree with this. I'd hate to have the Enterprise bearing a soiled reputation because someone did some horrible things while in command of the ship.


how would you work it into the game?

[Arokh72]

I'd like to see us eventually (not at start) have the ability to command a ship of the line, but not the Enterprise herself.

I'd rather see the Enterprise (NCC-1701 F or G) be an NPC controlled ship and perhaps a quest point or similar. As to NCC-1701 E, she maybe still around (remember an alternate timeline showed the D still running around after several decades granted with 3 engines). Keep in mind the Enterprise A was about to be decommissioned at the same time (roughly) as the Enterprise B was coming out for trial runs, so it could indicate some level of crossover.

The good thing about this game being set in Trek future is it gives Cryptic a lot of leeway with ships.

I'd also like to see famous ship names and registry number combos protected, last thing one needs is a bunch of NCC 1701s or variations thereof everywhere.

[Grox]

I disagree with this. I'd hate to have the Enterprise bearing a soiled reputation because someone did some horrible things while in command of the ship.

Right. It only takes one moron to ruin it for everyone.

[THORN74]

obviouly there are some ships and name which will be DEV controlled and you might encounter on your way. im thinking famous names which will probably be encountered on your quest and random missions. the names will obviously be off line for you to choose for yur own ship. think Defiant, Excelsior, Voyager and obviously Enterprise!

but what form will they take? going b the time line the Enterprse E will 40 years old and eithr be nar retirement if not aleady or destroyed? Enterprise has always been the Starfleet flagship and generally th most advancd ship. 1701-F? im thinking the new NX class that was unveiled? a cool missio would involve interacting with the new Enterprise on her first voyage (NX remember) when they have a crisis on the maiden voyage.

Defiant: its been shown there will be defiant classes but again this will be 40 years in the future. butmight the kep the original around so you could interat with it? that would be cool. if not maybe a new class. would have to be kick ass though!

how would you like these "big name" ships to be includdint he game?


most ships in the Trek universe have 100+ year lifespans, so the Sovereign class Enterprise -E will still be around and still be the flagship barring its destruction.

[seansean]

that's an interesting take on the issue of ships that we know will still be around. There's no point in trying to hide the Enterprise. I mean there's going to be a sovereign class ship out there named Enterprise might as well be able to interact with it.

From the time line as far as we know Voyager is now a museum. The Enterprise may or may not be a new class ship (i think the NX-91001 is just a registry number of a particular sovereign class ship and not a new class unto itself) or perhaps the Soveriegn version fo teh Enterprise is still out and about or perhaps a new class has taken the name. As for the Defiant (well the rechristened Sao Paulo) she's a tough little ship and I'm sure she's still out there and kicking around.

It'd be nice to have a starting sequence when you're doing your initial training that you can go explore the Voyager musuem for some extra bonuses. And maybe an escort mission where you're paired with the Defiant to get a particularly important ship of (insent technobable here) through the neutral zone.

But the Enterprise, well the Enterprise should be a player controlled ship. It should shift possession once every few months in a manner to be determined by Cryptic. Imagine the competitions they could come up with to transfer possession of the most storied ships in the fleet. I trully hope that Cryptic has something special and amazing planned for the Enterprise.

I don't know if a player can be trusted with it, tbh..imagine some doodleetspeaker griefing people with it..nah, it should make rare appearances in those dynamic events the devs have planned..maybe as part of certain missions, you get to do a mission with the federation flagship..it shouldn't be a common sight at all.

[Manta2015]

Agreed ; there's no reason the Ent-E shouldn't still be in service ~


-Manta-

[Azurian]

Yep, unless the Devs kill her off in the later years of the "Path to 2409", the Enterprise-E should be still around.

My guess is that they are saving the destruction for one of the first major storyline battles in STO and the Enterprise-F being one of the new 91001's. (Sort of reminiscent of the 1701 to the 1701-A.)

[JPJappic]

how would you work it into the game?

It should be an NPC ship that people hear about (in regards to good epic deeds being done). Would also be cool to fight alongside the Enterprise in some instanced battles or something.

[osena]

i think it should be quest item like you doing quest were you are doing diplomatic stuff and you are giveing command of USS Enterprise-E for mission you don't take your crew you would use the USS Enterprise's crew for this mission



Just my two cents

[Crazy-Tom]

I think it would be great for the Enterprise to be an NPC ship that you can see and interact with in the game. I think just seeing the Enterprise going about her business would be good enough for me. :D

[bridgeburner18]

But the Enterprise, well the Enterprise should be a player controlled ship. It should shift possession once every few months in a manner to be determined by Cryptic. Imagine the competitions they could come up with to transfer possession of the most storied ships in the fleet. I trully hope that Cryptic has something special and amazing planned for the Enterprise.


no offense but that is a horrible idea. First no one should be able to name their ship enterprise and it deffinatly shouldn't be loitered around as a prize. IF ANYTHING it should be a powerful NPC ship a (HERO) class like the OP stated. And as far as the timeline it should be about time for the ENT-F to have been flying for awhile or even the ENT-G

ST-TNG 75 years 75 years- A B C D thats roughly a new ship every 18.5 years so its 30 years after nemesis....the enterprise E has been around for what 6 years as of Nemesis someone do the math but we could easily see the ent E already in a museum, its predessecor on its way to retirement and the next generation of vessels about to come online.

And yes the NX91001 is a new CLASS of ship, it is not a sovy, but is very similar in design. much like the enterprise A class was not a constitution but was very similar in design.

[Loekii]

It should be an NPC ship that people hear about (in regards to good epic deeds being done). Would also be cool to fight alongside the Enterprise in some instanced battles or something.

I think that it would be interesting to have some 'Easter Egg' missions where you rendezvous with famous ships.

Such as dropping off a rescued diplomat to the Enterprise, etc.

[haplo8]

Wouldn't Data be captain of the Enterprise during STO's time frame?

I agree the canon ships should have a place in the game but no way should players be in command of them, maybe assisting them in missions or in some sort of time travel episode content.

But certainly not passed around like a casual prize...:mad:

[Silverspar]

I agree, players should not be in command of the legendary ships. You should get assignments from them, to seeing them show up to save your keister when you've over stretched your bounds or for special events, but players should never be in control of those ships.

[Azurian]

You know, this brings up an interesting idea.

Back in the Perpetual days, they were thinking about making Sovereigns and Galaxy's, "City Ships", where players could visit. So it would be cool to beam over as part of your mission and get orders from Data, or going to Engineering to analyze some fragment of some alien device.

And when it comes to storyline combat, I wouldn't mind the Devs acting as Data in commanding the Enterprise-E in part of a major STO storyline event.

[haplo8]

And when it comes to storyline combat, I wouldn't mind the Devs acting as Data in commanding the Enterprise-E in part of a major STO storyline event.

Now THAT is a fantastic idea...

[JPJappic]

And when it comes to storyline combat, I wouldn't mind the Devs acting as Data in commanding the Enterprise-E in part of a major STO storyline event.

Though i'm not sure he would, what if Brent Spiner played himself? XD

[Loekii]

Wouldn't Data be captain of the Enterprise during STO's time frame?

I agree the canon ships should have a place in the game but no way should players be in command of them, maybe assisting them in missions or in some sort of time travel episode content.

But certainly not passed around like a casual prize...:mad:

If Data's in command, then I am sure Fed Players will be encountering the Enterprise and Data -- Wonder if the Klingon players will get a chance?

[JPJappic]

If Data's in command, then I am sure Fed Players will be encountering the Enterprise and Data -- Wonder if the Klingon players will get a chance?

Maybe they'll encounter Martok, or Worf.

[Azurian]

Though i'm not sure he would, what if Brent Spiner played himself? XD

Would be cool if Brent played Data, but most likely Data would be played out by a GM and act out via a script.

[ComradeWolfie]

The enterprise should have no real contact with players, it should be the flagship of the NPC starfleet's fleet, so if you decide to **** off starfleet, it may turn up and slaughter you.

the only way it should be involved.

[osena]

Wouldn't Data be captain of the Enterprise during STO's time frame?

I agree the canon ships should have a place in the game but no way should players be in command of them, maybe assisting them in missions or in some sort of time travel episode content.

But certainly not passed around like a casual prize...:mad:

what about the non canon ships the dauntless and the USS Sovereign form bridge commander there not cannon persay

[tonymetpolice]

what about the non canon ships the dauntless and the USS Sovereign form bridge commander there not cannon persay

it is a tricky thing. i think it will help hugley it the star trek "feel" to the game if these "big name" ships are included. but how to have them take part is challenging. if your a starfleet player and you encounter the Enterprise would you want it to be part of some epic movie type big mission or would you like to see it go about its buisness in the background of the game? should it be part of instanced missions/events or DEV controlled? or all of the above?


what if your a klingon player? a mission where you go up against the enterprise or defiant crew would be great :) but they would have to script it in such a way that it dosent appear weak on the starfleet side. the Enterprise is still the Enterprise? :)

[jagerbolt]

Agree with the posters who think it should remain an NPC ship. Working with the Enterprise in a mission would be awesome enough.

Now what version of the Enterprise? I would be okay with the E still being around - but I wouldn't be surprised if they introduce the F if they chose to destroy the E or decommission her at some point.

[fctechie]

It would be amazing to see Enterprise, NCC - 1701-F being most likely, yet there is a slight problem with some persons suggesting that Data would be the CO. That of course being that he is dead. I guess it could be B4.

I would expect that the Enterprise would be one of the new as yet unnamed NX ships. Yet there still exist the possibility that the class of the Enterprise has not yet been introduced.

Still in what ever incarnation just maybe coming across Enterprise would be enough for me. I would say that as a person loyal to the UFP that I would follow just about any instruction given to my by her officers.

Also there could be a Voyager NCC 74656-A flying around under the command of the decedents of some of the original Voyager crew.

[THORN74]

It would be amazing to see Enterprise, NCC - 1701-F being most likely, yet there is a slight problem with some persons suggesting that Data would be the CO. That of course being that he is dead. I guess it could be B4.

I would expect that the Enterprise would be one of the new as yet unnamed NX ships. Yet there still exist the possibility that the class of the Enterprise has not yet been introduced.

Still in what ever incarnation just maybe coming across Enterprise would be enough for me. I would say that as a person loyal to the UFP that I would follow just about any instruction given to my by her officers.

Also there could be a Voyager NCC 74656-A flying around under the command of the decedents of some of the original Voyager crew.

first, there is no 1701-F, at least not unless the devs destroy the 1701-E first.

2nd, Data is indeed in command. He was "ressurected" in the B4 body via the neural-net transfer he performed prior to his destruction in Nemesis. Some people are crying foul on this because the movie said he only transferred his memories NOT his personallity, so they think its a stretch. In the countdown commic data is alive and well and in command of the enterprise-E. the daystrom institute helped upgrade the B4 body back to data's origianl spce. so he is exactly like he was before he "died"

i doubt there would be a new voyager either as most ships in the trek univeres have a usefull lifespan of 100+ years. so the original Intrepid class voyager would also be still flying unless its been destroyed. As for the Decendants of the voyager crew, it would be neat to see tom and b'lanna's child, or Echeb and the other borg kids. but they wouldnt need to be on voyager or its replacement.

[RunnerChase]

obviouly there are some ships and name which will be DEV controlled and you might encounter on your way. im thinking famous names which will probably be encountered on your quest and random missions. the names will obviously be off line for you to choose for yur own ship. think Defiant, Excelsior, Voyager and obviously Enterprise!

but what form will they take? going b the time line the Enterprse E will 40 years old and eithr be nar retirement if not aleady or destroyed? Enterprise has always been the Starfleet flagship and generally th most advancd ship. 1701-F? im thinking the new NX class that was unveiled? a cool missio would involve interacting with the new Enterprise on her first voyage (NX remember) when they have a crisis on the maiden voyage.

Defiant: its been shown there will be defiant classes but again this will be 40 years in the future. butmight the kep the original around so you could interat with it? that would be cool. if not maybe a new class. would have to be kick ass though!

how would you like these "big name" ships to be includdint he game?

kool...It could be like news flashs and you could get more info if you wanted and maybe interact with...if you so choose...news flash; enterprice is being atacked...distress signal...over.:)
i also liked the idea about visiting some like tours:cool:

I havent read this whole thread yet...hope i didnt step all over somebody..but i will a little later.

[mistermgd]

first, there is no 1701-F, at least not unless the devs destroy the 1701-E first.

2nd, Data is indeed in command. He was "ressurected" in the B4 body via the neural-net transfer he performed prior to his destruction in Nemesis. Some people are crying foul on this because the movie said he only transferred his memories NOT his personallity, so they think its a stretch. In the countdown commic data is alive and well and in command of the enterprise-E. the daystrom institute helped upgrade the B4 body back to data's origianl spce. so he is exactly like he was before he "died"

i doubt there would be a new voyager either as most ships in the trek univeres have a usefull lifespan of 100+ years. so the original Intrepid class voyager would also be still flying unless its been destroyed. As for the Decendants of the voyager crew, it would be neat to see tom and b'lanna's child, or Echeb and the other borg kids. but they wouldnt need to be on voyager or its replacement.

As far as hero ships go, there should be some like Enterpirse only it will probably be upgraded but not replaced. I suspect that major faction battles will have Enterprise and Voyager as Fleet Commadn ships. I am surprised to hear that Data will be in command of Enterprise E because I would think Will Riker would be and yes he should still be young enought o do so; humans live into their hundreds before they die of old age in the Star Trek Universe so Riker should still be commanding something and I would be surprised that he would take up commadn of another ship other than Enterprise.

[tonymetpolice]

As far as hero ships go, there should be some like Enterpirse only it will probably be upgraded but not replaced. I suspect that major faction battles will have Enterprise and Voyager as Fleet Commadn ships. I am surprised to hear that Data will be in command of Enterprise E because I would think Will Riker would be and yes he should still be young enought o do so; humans live into their hundreds before they die of old age in the Star Trek Universe so Riker should still be commanding something and I would be surprised that he would take up commadn of another ship other than Enterprise.


i think they are sticking with what it showed in Nemesis with Riker off captaining the Titan..

[mistermgd]

i think they are sticking with what it showed in Nemesis with Riker off captaining the Titan..

Thanks I forgot about that.. I'll have to rewatch Nemesis later.

[EaglePryde]

If Enterprise E and F are off limits then may i have the Enterprise X? :D

Just joking

I don't think Enterprise or any other major name will be allowed to have by regular players. I think this will be NPC ships you get to see;)

By the way..in what timeline would the Enterprise X be?

[KL0k]

about the riker-"issue" here.. i think he will be an old admiral at starfleet command, when we'll jump into the game.
otherwise, yeah, the titan, or the refitted-to-death-galaxy of that TNG episode? :D
whatever..

i wouldnt be surprised if a ship like the enterprise-E with data/B4 as a captain, will be the introduction and tutorial. this way you get an exellent teacher, plus a big ship where nothing really can get thaaaaat wrong with, plus it would have a cool "this is what you want right? then go and do something for it"-effect. :D

[tonymetpolice]

about the riker-"issue" here.. i think he will be an old admiral at starfleet command, when we'll jump into the game.
otherwise, yeah, the titan, or the refitted-to-death-galaxy of that TNG episode? :D
whatever..

i wouldnt be surprised if a ship like the enterprise-E with data/B4 as a captain, will be the introduction and tutorial. this way you get an exellent teacher, plus a big ship where nothing really can get thaaaaat wrong with, plus it would have a cool "this is what you want right? then go and do something for it"-effect. :D

riker would be about 70/80 something years old by this point so yea an admiral somewhere

was really hoping the tutorial would be at Sarfleet Acadmey but Enterprise is another good idea :)

[KiraYamatoX20A]

Hey there, everyone!!!:)

I saw this thread and couldn't help but comment. I actually have a few ideas regarding this concept.

OK, so, Various "Hero" ships would probably be as follows:

Enterprise: I'd say the odds of the Enterprise-E still being in service are about 70% (The other percentage amounts there are: 25% chance she's been turned into a museum, and 5% chance that she's been destroyed in battle with the Klingons). However, if the Enterprise-E is still in service, the odds are very high (around 90%) that she's no longer a Sovereign-Class. The reason I say that is that since the NX-91001 is like an upgraded form of the Sovereign Class, it would make sense that Starfleet converts some of the older Sovereign-Class Ships into the new Class--and it would make an EXTREME amount of sense with Starfleet's famous Flagship. Now, if the Enterprise-E's been turned into a museum or destroyed, We'll have an Enterprise-F flying around--and I'm pretty certain it'll be one of the first ships in the new NX-91001 Class, unless they decide to do something entirely different. Whatever Enterprise is around, I'd say the odds of Data being captain are fairly close to 100%.

Defiant: The Defiant will probably be either a museum or a Training Ship--Operational Lifetimes are just how long the class will be around, not how long a specific ship in that class will be in service. We'll still see a few Defiant-Class Ships in service (and, if Cryptic uses one of my ideas, some of the newer Defiance-Class Ships as well [the Defiance-Class was a ship idea I came up with to serve as a successor for the Defiant-Class]), but the original Defiant probably won't be on the front lines (unless it was refitted to become a Defiance-Class).

Voyager: Like the Defiant, the Voyager will either be a museum or a training ship--considering the Voyager finale, I'd go for museum. However, the odds are pretty good (around 90%), that there'll be a Voyager-A in active service. However, I don't know whether she'll be an Intrepid-Class, or some new Class (it'd be fun to have a U.S.S. Voyager NX-74656-A as the prototype for the successor of the Intrepid-Class!!!!!:D).

And those are my personal thoughts on the "Hero" ships of Starfleet.:D

[Allerka]

riker would be about 70/80 something years old by this point so yea an admiral somewhere

was really hoping the tutorial would be at Sarfleet Acadmey but Enterprise is another good idea :)

Wouldn't surprise me. Picard was already 61 years old when he took command of the Enterprise-D, so...

As for what to do with the "legendary" ships, seeing them around would definitely be cool. Maybe use one of the lesser ships like the Defiant or Voyager for intro tutorials, and we see the Enterprise show up for mega-battles Cryptic has planned. In between those events, we could easily just run across it doing it's thing, or hanging out around Earth. Plenty of other MMOs where you have legendary characters you can find in a given town or fortress, but they still show up for major events anyway.