Can we play Borg

[Predation]

Can we play Borg?

this would be awsome

[knightofhyrule730]

no. They are too strong. Federation or Klingon only. Eventually you may see Romulans.

edit: also, use the search.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/search.php?searchid=1236173&pp=&page=

edit 2:

welcome to the forums.

[Blackheart]

No.I dont think we will ever be able to play them.

[Rgoodfel]

I only hope that Borg are never a player faction.

[The_Sisko]

No.

And we will never be able to play Borg.

[Zombie1982]

No.

And we will never be able to play Borg.

I don't mean to sound standoffish, but is there a source for your claim? I only ask because I can't quite remember this being said. I do miss many things though, thus why I ask for a source?

Or is this a personal opinion? This is fine too!

[knightofhyrule730]

I don't mean to sound standoffish, but is there a source for your claim? I only ask because I can't quite remember this being said. I do miss many things though, thus why I ask for a source?

Or is this a personal opinion? This is fine too!

no, the devs have said it as well. the borg will never be playable. you cant be a player in the borg, VOY teaches us that.

as for ex-borg, well thats always a possibility.

[Zombie1982]

Ah, right you are KnightofHyrule. Thanks for that. I could see that being able to play Borg would raise some issues. I ask for a source because I've had someone asking me if you can play Borg or not. I'll let them know they'll have to be happy with Klingon. ;)

[Predation]

I did use the search.. i just baught up posts that didn't have borg in the title sorry.

and ex Borg would be good enough like 7/9 type thats cool - i guess its klingon for me :-)

Yeah i can see 1 billion Borgs on launch if they were playable and OP to boot.

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[Grox]

I did use the search.. i just baught up posts that didn't have borg in the title sorry.

and ex Borg would be good enough like 7/9 type thats cool - i guess its klingon for me :-)

Yeah i can see 1 billion Borgs on launch if they were playable and OP to boot.

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Welcome to the forums. As far as ex-Borg go, that might be possible. Cryptic keeps bragging about their customizations when it comes to character creating. And from the video, I'm impressed. It's entirely possible that we might be able to add Borg implants to our characters. We can only hope.

[Zombie1982]

We can only hope.

This is a good point! Ex-borg implants would be quite awesome. Quite awesome indeed.

[Predation]

its more for the look than anything i guess

edit 1

yeah Jordy wears those goggles so why not implants its the future after all

[Michell]

no it looks like you wont, and people will bite your head off for this thread...they don't like the idea of player borg. i don't care either way as long as the story line continues.

[Predation]

Borg are cool - i am not trying to aggravate people

[Cormoran]

i wouldn't mind playable borg so long as the gameplay for it was completely different than starfleet or klingon, something less personal where you dont have a specific avatar, maybe having it play out more like an rts rather than an mmo.

but man, attempting to balance that would send you to the nuthouse. :eek:

my biggest worry with something like playable borg is seeing them on ds9 playing dabo and bragging about how they pwned that klingon fleet. even though the talk with feddies and klings would be similar, atleast they'd look like they'd belong there playing dabo.

For ex-borg I'm guessing you'd be able to add little details like implants in the creator, we've seen klingons with eyepatches so i don't see them not including a little implant type of thing like seven of nines eyebrow implant if only for visual detail. also with the creator i'm guessing you could probably modify the traits, swapping a normal one out for a more borg type of trait.

[frye04]

I dont think that the borg are to hard, we have seen on serval instanst that stafleet has beatin the borg to
First Contact
Voyager

[Terrani]

I dont think that the borg are to hard, we have seen on serval instanst that stafleet has beatin the borg to
First Contact
Voyager

Voyager turned the Borg into pansies instead of the feared, super tough, super villains that they were during TNG. I hope that Borg encounters in the game will be more Wolf359-esque rather than Transphasic Torpedo pushovers.

[Grox]

no it looks like you wont, and people will bite your head off for this thread...they don't like the idea of player borg. i don't care either way as long as the story line continues.

No one wants to eat your head. The Borg as a playable race just would unbalance the game. Have you ever played smash bros? If you had, then you would know that they had to "dumb down" a few characters so other characters would have a chance at beating them. So yeah, I'm down with random computer generated Borg attacks. Besides if it's an MMO and if a Borg started talking to me I would really hate this game, as I'm sure many more would.

I still think you will be able to add Borg implants with the custom character creator and make an ex-Borg. And if you watch the video, then you know there's a lot of customizing options. I was amazed with how they were able to position the scar almost anywhere on that aliens face at the end of the video.

[cocoa-jin]

I have yet to see any dev statement that says their will never be playable Borg. If its true, then so be it...but I'd like to see it also.

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

We wont be able to play as the Borg but it has been confirmed in interviews that in the next expansion we can play as Romulan and Cadassian forces.

So there will be 4 main player factions and 4 main player areas until the next epansion after that which no ones discussed as of yet as its to far down the line.

Federation and its varying species including Humans
Klingons
Romulan
Cardassian
Custom Species that will more than likely play under the flag of one of the above 4 i.e. you can design a species but it will be in the federation etc.

Until theres more details we just have to hope for more and other things

(And it would also suggest another great war i.e. theres 2 species from the beginning Klingon and Federation which are at War then with the expansion bringing another 2 species into the game it would suggest these will have there own great War also.

Also from the movie nemesis and the reports from gaming sites and comments and information in the leading up to year forums on STO etc, then it would suggest a coalition between forces.

I.e It looks highly possibly that romulans may allie with the federation and Cardassians may allie with Klingons but thats not a definate its just a what it looks like may happen form what ive read so far.

Course it could be 4 great waring nations but you never know. Coalitions of Klingon and Cardassion armads against Romulan and Federation Armadas could be incredibly interesting especially knowing that all 4 species will have advanced technology by this stage.

Lets hope the Kitamer accord is still in place

[Jenshae]

Welcome and if you are curious. There is a little thread that might interest you linked in my signature. *Winks.*

[Cormoran]

We wont be able to play as the Borg but it has been confirmed in interviews that in the next expansion we can play as Romulan and Cadassian forces.

might i ask which interview you saw this confirmed? it seems like a very big thing that everyone would have been talking about but i havent seen any "OMG we're getting playable rommie and cardie factions!!!1111eleventyoneoneone" threads

[Fernos]

You know it's odd...I have gone from liking the Borg (watching them on TNG Pre Hugh) to tolerating the Borg (Watching Hugh the lonely Borg..Jordi will you be my friend? :rolleyes: ) To absolutely detesting them. It's the type of people the Borg attract I guess....like Vampire LARPERS only more irritating.

[TechDragon]

I remember one day when there were 3 threads on the first page of the forums alone asking this question. As others have basically summed up, never say never... but do say probably never.

Ex-Borg like Seven of Nine on the other hand sound like an interesting easy-to-implement possibility we most likely will be able to do.

[Collingham]

Voyager turned the Borg into pansies instead of the feared, super tough, super villains that they were during TNG. I hope that Borg encounters in the game will be more Wolf359-esque rather than Transphasic Torpedo pushovers.

I think thats a bit of a sweeping statement, Voyager generally stayed true to the strength of the Borg, with the exception of Endgame in which, considering Admiral Janeway was bringing specialised tech from 30 years in the future, it was perfectly plausible that 'transphasic torpedos' could exist and have the effect they did.

Returning to the question, as fun as it sounds, i don't think the Borg will ever be playable and neither do i think it would be a good idea. They are simply too advanced in comparison to the other races - their tier 1 ships would, if canon was obeyed, be a match for tier 3 maybe even 4 Fed/Klingon ships. Not to mention the Collective offers little oppurtunity to facilitate individual personalised players. And rank structure, bridge officers....none of it exists for the Borg.

On a side note, i hope they allow Liberated Borg as a customizeable class, i for one would love to play as an ex-borg.

[Dext]

I don't mean to sound standoffish, but is there a source for your claim? I only ask because I can't quite remember this being said. I do miss many things though, thus why I ask for a source?

Or is this a personal opinion? This is fine too!

They do not wont to brake canon so they will not add them for us to play.

[Arcticfrost]

might i ask which interview you saw this confirmed? it seems like a very big thing that everyone would have been talking about but i havent seen any "OMG we're getting playable rommie and cardie factions!!!1111eleventyoneoneone" threads

Most of this is just logic, like not being the Borg, they’re just to powerful to be balanced out by anything or being Romulan and Cardasian it’s not like they’re only going to have two factions and would give them an update to sell like Wow with its upgrades.

[The_Sisko]

I haven't posted this in a while: Poll: Should the Borg be playable? (http://www.polldaddy.com/poll.aspx?p=1412081)

[cocoa-jin]

You know it's odd...I have gone from liking the Borg (watching them on TNG Pre Hugh) to tolerating the Borg (Watching Hugh the lonely Borg..Jordi will you be my friend? :rolleyes: ) To absolutely detesting them. It's the type of people the Borg attract I guess....like Vampire LARPERS only more irritating.

Dont hate...assimilate!

[Fernos]

Dont hate...assimilate!


That's okay...I never got into the whole emo pleather look. :rolleyes:

[cocoa-jin]

That's okay...I never got into the whole emo pleather look. :rolleyes:

Once you go green and black...you never go back.

I think thats a bit of a sweeping statement, Voyager generally stayed true to the strength of the Borg, with the exception of Endgame in which, considering Admiral Janeway was bringing specialised tech from 30 years in the future, it was perfectly plausible that 'transphasic torpedos' could exist and have the effect they did.

Returning to the question, as fun as it sounds, i don't think the Borg will ever be playable and neither do i think it would be a good idea. They are simply too advanced in comparison to the other races - their tier 1 ships would, if canon was obeyed, be a match for tier 3 maybe even 4 Fed/Klingon ships. Not to mention the Collective offers little oppurtunity to facilitate individual personalised players. And rank structure, bridge officers....none of it exists for the Borg.

On a side note, i hope they allow Liberated Borg as a customizeable class, i for one would love to play as an ex-borg.

Keep in mind...these features the Borg wouldnt utilize arent pre-requiste features to play. They are keey features for the Feds/Klings, but they dont define the only means of playable existance.

The key to playable Borg is developing a playable mechanic that is compatiable with the faction. So no bridge crew, no captains, less personalization. Yeah it different than the other factions, but it should be. Yes it removes several features the factions enjoy, but not everyone needs those features or would be playing because of those features...most likly the Borg would attract those who could live without them and will brace the Borg features/content happily.

I wont go into anymore detail, its been discussed, but even the balancing of player ship selections and progression for Borg has been hashed out.

[LordDave]

I haven't posted this in a while: Poll: Should the Borg be playable? (http://www.polldaddy.com/poll.aspx?p=1412081)

According to that poll, there should not be playable borg.
Go figure.

[Jenshae]

According to that poll, there should not be playable borg.
Go figure.

I refuse to even open the link but I know the normal reflex reactions to the idea of it. So I would say that since no one was presented with the possibilities of how it could work, they just vote on their preconceived notions.

I would say that this poll mostly shows the player population split over those that don't want an over powered race and those that do.
I submit that is no grounding on how Borg could work as a playable race or how people would feel about it, should they see or were informed of the possibilities around this topic.

[Grox]

*Sigh.*

I am tempted to report this thread just because it will probably spiral out like the one in my signature. Actually, I think it was closed because the moderator felt that there was nothing futher to discuss on that topic, which could be positive.


Why would you report it? Because somethings disagree with your opinion? Everybody seems to be posting mature and and rash opinions. I fail too see the problem. Please point out.


According to that poll, there should not be playable Borg.
Go figure.

Wow, I thought the gap between yes and no would be much smaller.

[topekaguy1988]

If some people don't want playable borg thats fine. However just say that you disagree and move on. There is no need to try to trivialize the opinions of those who want playable borg. Instead of being considerate and moving on people just keep bashing them over the head with their supposedly "Superior" reasonings. You may not agree with them but they have the same rights as you in regards to how they want to play the game.

[Artamas34]

Can we play Borg?

this would be awsome

no i think they should not be a playable race, but like they were in the movies, a npc but considered a severe threat.

[Artamas34]

This is a good point! Ex-borg implants would be quite awesome. Quite awesome indeed.

hmm interesting maybe a character like Seven of Nine wanting to have a personality of your own, now that would be cool.

[The.Grand.Nagus]

If some people don't want playable borg thats fine. However just say that you disagree and move on. There is no need to try to trivialize the opinions of those who want playable borg. Instead of being considerate and moving on people just keep bashing them over the head with their supposedly "Superior" reasonings. You may not agree with them but they have the same rights as you in regards to how they want to play the game.

FYI, it works both ways. Dont think that the anti-borg people are the only ones who "trivialize" the opinions of their opponents; the pro-borg crowd do it as well. That said, a game should cater to the wishes of the majority(since they are the customers), and if the majority of players do NOT want playable Borg, then that is how the game should be designed.

[Loekii]

I have yet to see any dev statement that says their will never be playable Borg. If its true, then so be it...but I'd like to see it also.

I have not seen the devs say 'never'.

As I stated in the other thread, I am fine with 'EX-Borg' (ie Hugh or 7of9 types), but against Borg Faction (Borg Ships, etc).

[ad.acote]

That thread was a simple question at start. Please don't turn threads into flame wars.

thread closed.