Cardassian Faction?

[rascalsviper75]

Question For Devs: Will there be a faction for us Cardassians? Launch? Patch?

If so, will we have our own faction or be placed into say a Romulan faction if released? Thank you :cool:

[Silverspar]

Question For Devs: Will there be a faction for us Cardassians? Launch? Patch?

If so, will we have our own faction or be placed into say a Romulan faction if released? Thank you :cool:

No. Cardasians are dead. The Klingons ate them.

That being said, the Cardasians could very well be apart of the Federation, Klingon Empire or both, or still remaining out on their own. I doubt they will be apart of the Dominion when that comes. As far as the Romulans, things aren't looking too good, though they are suppose to be in an expansion.

[Jerosh_Skitari]

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=14535

That should answer your question :).

[rascalsviper75]

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=14535

That should answer your question :).

Thank you for the link this will answer alot of questions for us, however all it says about Cardassians is this: The Romulan Empire is crumbling, as is the Cardassian Union.

Is there anything else on this matter other then the above statement? If so can a dev comment on this if they can? Thank you

[Jerosh_Skitari]

At launch, you'll be a member of either Starfleet or the Klingon Defense Force, but other factions may be added later on, such as "the Dominion and the Romulans". [LVWc] Privateering may be possible later on. [JE3]

This is from the second bullet point under "General Gameplay." So, no Cardassian faction at launch.

[rascalsviper75]

Will the Cardassians be added in with the Romulans patch if released?

[Davros]

I really like the idea of the Cardasians and the Romulans forming an alliance of convenience. Both empires are crumbling and together they could pool resources and become a viable and strong third faction to rival both the Klingons and the Federation. Maybe at some point down the line this new alliance could become a third playable race.

[rascalsviper75]

I really like the idea of the Cardasians and the Romulans forming an alliance of convenience. Both empires are crumbling and together they could pool resources and become a viable and strong third faction to rival both the Klingons and the Federation. Maybe at some point down the line this new alliance could become a third playable race.

That would be awesome. :cool:

[Cormoran]

I really like the idea of the Cardasians and the Romulans forming an alliance of convenience. Both empires are crumbling and together they could pool resources and become a viable and strong third faction to rival both the Klingons and the Federation. Maybe at some point down the line this new alliance could become a third playable race.

I also like this idea, they've shown they were willing to work together in DS9 even though that ended in failure. :p
It'd make for a nice expansion pack giving us two of the next most wanted factions in one.

[rascalsviper75]

I also like this idea, they've shown they were willing to work together in DS9 even though that ended in failure. :p
It'd make for a nice expansion pack giving us two of the next most wanted factions in one.

Agreed but what we are really wanting to know from the devs is if they even plan on having a specific Cardassian faction which would be awesome for us atleast...lol

[THORN74]

the devs have said the cardassians and rommulans will be added to the game. what they have not said how ever is HOW!

they could be absorbed into either current faction, or add 1 or even 2 more factions. I find the convienent lack of mentioning a 3rd or 4th faction and indication that they will be added to the existing factions and the game will remain 2 sided. (IMHO)

u could easily make a case for either of them joining either faction.

rommies have Spock "reunification" story arch, and the fact picard made a friend of Donatra in Nemesis, but youe also have years of distrust and hostillity

the cardies have the humaitarian aid they are receiving from the federation (the path narrative), but also have a much more millitant behavior like the klingons


we will have to wait and see

[AaronH]

I really don't want to see the Cardassians as their own faction. I would prefer to see Cardassian space as a sort of open zone, where the various factions are competing for influence. I see a lot of story potential there.

[rascalsviper75]

The only issue about being shoved into another faction instead of having our own Cardassian faction is we would never actually start in Cardassia, but the opposite end of space either in Romulan territory, Klingon territory or Federation space.

After looking over all the info on it it doesnt even look good that they will even put any Cardassian in other then in NPC form.

[JPJappic]

I really like the idea of the Cardasians and the Romulans forming an alliance of convenience. Both empires are crumbling and together they could pool resources and become a viable and strong third faction to rival both the Klingons and the Federation. Maybe at some point down the line this new alliance could become a third playable race.

Can you imagine the Obsidian Order and Tal'Shiar working together? That in itself would make them really powerful.

[Garrot]

Can you imagine the Obsidian Order and Tal'Shiar working together? That in itself would make them really powerful.

Whoa .... Lol heck yea..

[Jasad_Silaran]

We at the Jevonite Order will be the guiding light for our people in this new age. We will once again rise to power, using any and all means necessary.

(I really hope they consider a Cardassian faction of their own, I would like to play them among others and start in Cardassian space, not Romulan or Klingon, or god forbid the Federation....*shutters at the thought*)

[Moryan_Sorg]

(I really hope they consider a Cardassian faction of their own, I would like to play them among others and start in Cardassian space, not Romulan or Klingon, or god forbid the Federation....*shutters at the thought*)

If you are adding a whole new faction it should probably have more than just one race. Feds and Klingons already have more than one race. Add in the added burden of switching factions, and it might be kind of hard to fill a faction if it was the only the Cards. I know having new content would draw people to put an alt in the faction, but I doubt it would become that many people's main if it was only one race.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Klingon, Fed, Card, Jem'Hadar, and Romulan five way FvF, but that may only be possible if STO has a HUGE player base.

[Jasad_Silaran]

If you are adding a whole new faction it should probably have more than just one race. Feds and Klingons already have more than one race. Add in the added burden of switching factions, and it might be kind of hard to fill a faction if it was the only the Cards. I know having new content would draw people to put an alt in the faction, but I doubt it would become that many people's main if it was only one race.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Klingon, Fed, Card, Jem'Hadar, and Romulan five way FvF, but that may only be possible if STO has a HUGE player base.

I agree, but what other race would be slapped into a Carddassian faction if they made one?

*ponders this for a moment*

[Davros]

I agree, but what other race would be slapped into a Carddassian faction if they made one?

*ponders this for a moment*


Off the top of my head I can think of the Breen.

[Davros]

If you are adding a whole new faction it should probably have more than just one race. Feds and Klingons already have more than one race. Add in the added burden of switching factions, and it might be kind of hard to fill a faction if it was the only the Cards. I know having new content would draw people to put an alt in the faction, but I doubt it would become that many people's main if it was only one race.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a Klingon, Fed, Card, Jem'Hadar, and Romulan five way FvF, but that may only be possible if STO has a HUGE player base.


I strongly agree with this. It’s no use adding another three factions after launch to try and compete with two already very popular and established factions. The player balance would be drastically un-even, and these new factions would achieve little more than periphery status in the STO universe.

If a new faction was to be added post launch then for it to succeed it would already have to possess a great standing in the universe, and not be some cumbering society which neither of the major powers take seriously. This is why the Cardasian and Romulan alliance works as you can combine two popular species and hopefully attract a lot more players than either of the factions could hope to do independently. You also have the third major player in the universe that has to be taken seriously, as I have already mentioned earlier in the thread.

[Nador_Ekoor]

I am going to be a proponent for a Cardassian Faction.

[Moryan_Sorg]

I strongly agree with this. It’s no use adding another three factions after launch to try and compete with two already very popular and established factions. The player balance would be drastically un-even, and these new factions would achieve little more than periphery status in the STO universe.

If a new faction was to be added post launch then for it to succeed it would already have to possess a great standing in the universe, and not be some cumbering society which neither of the major powers take seriously. This is why the Cardasian and Romulan alliance works as you can combine two popular species and hopefully attract a lot more players than either of the factions could hope to do independently. You also have the third major player in the universe that has to be taken seriously, as I have already mentioned earlier in the thread.

Yeah, and I also think that a Romulan Card alliance is somewhat hinted and it makes sense. Both kind of have a general mindset of a balance of war/research and both are done with the out look that their respective empires matter more than what humans would consider 'morals'.

Also, the Romulans and Cards have already been linked as 'The Romulan Empire is crubling, as is the Cardassian Union" (from the Everything We Know About STO, thread).

Either way (and I'll keep on saying this) I hope Cryptic makes up their minds how they are generally going to handle this and let everyone know before they even release the game. I'm not immediately planning on playing Card, Rommie, or Jem'Hadar and I'd still appreciate a heads up on the repercussions if I decide to switch later on. In fact, letting me know what's going to happen going into the game, matters much more to me than what they end up deciding.

In a perfect world though, we'd have 5 factions and crazy amounts of mayhem! Klingon, Fed, Card, Rommie, and Jem'Hadar with constant alliances with relative peace and then other times with all out war, that are player mission driven. 2vs3, 2vs2vs1, 1vs 1vs 1 vs2, 4vs1!!!! CRAZY FUN TIME!

[jbarker82]

Off the top of my head I can think of the Breen.

I thought that when the Cardassians turned against the Dominion at the end of the war, the Breen stayed loyal to the Dominion and bombarded Cardassian space wiping a lot of them out? I wouldn't have thought the Cardies would be friends with them again after that :rolleyes:

[Davros]

I thought that when the Cardassians turned against the Dominion at the end of the war, the Breen stayed loyal to the Dominion and bombarded Cardassian space wiping a lot of them out? I wouldn't have thought the Cardies would be friends with them again after that :rolleyes:

It’s difficult to say that, as we can’t make assumptions about the political ramifications from 5 minutes of screen time, with no dialog exchanged in reference to the Breen. The Breen also had no time to react to the Cardasian decision to switch sides, as it was made almost as soon as the Cardasian fleet learned of the atrocities on the home world. We don’t even know if the Breen ships had any communication with the Breen high command, and as such may of still been acting and following orders as part of the Dominion.

If we look at the end of the Second World War, which ended in 1945 we can draw comparisons to the defeated Germany and the liberated France. In 1951, only 6 years after the war ended France, Western Germany and a few other countries (including Italy) signed the Treaty of Paris which was regarded as been fundamental in restoring peace in Europe. It was also seen as one of the founding stones for the European Union, in which former Alliance, Soviet and Axis countries have been working together peacefully for the last 50 years. My point is that even if the Breen had knowingly bombed the Cardasian home world, it is more than likely that both sides would have had to move beyond it out on necessity.

[Davros]

Either way (and I'll keep on saying this) I hope Cryptic makes up their minds how they are generally going to handle this and let everyone know before they even release the game. I'm not immediately planning on playing Card, Rommie, or Jem'Hadar and I'd still appreciate a heads up on the repercussions if I decide to switch later on. In fact, letting me know what's going to happen going into the game, matters much more to me than what they end up deciding.


Agreed. I’m more of a Romulan man myself, but I would very much like to know in advance what the intentions are for them. I would much rather see a stronger, less pure Romulan faction than a weaker one that was added in what feels like an afterthought.

[ktanner3]

No. Cardasians are dead. The Klingons ate them.

That being said, the Cardasians could very well be apart of the Federation, Klingon Empire or both, or still remaining out on their own. I doubt they will be apart of the Dominion when that comes. As far as the Romulans, things aren't looking too good, though they are suppose to be in an expansion.

I have a hard time believing that the Cardassians would allow themselves to be a part of any faction after the disaster that followed their allience with the Dominion. I would think after all that happened that the population would push even more for isolationism.

[rascalsviper75]

I have a hard time believing that the Cardassians would allow themselves to be a part of any faction after the disaster that followed their allience with the Dominion. I would think after all that happened that the population would push even more for isolationism.

Agreed, I would think they would make the Cardasians no more then an NPC faction where you see and meet them run by only AI. :cool:

[Davros]

I have a hard time believing that the Cardassians would allow themselves to be a part of any faction after the disaster that followed their allience with the Dominion. I would think after all that happened that the population would push even more for isolationism.

The Cardasian state is on its knees, it is accepting aid from the Federation and its economy has collapsed. The Cardasian Union is now a very tempting target.

While I can appreciate that the Cardasians may want to become isolationist, they may not have the luxury of been able to do so. The new government will be very weak in its infancy, and could be vulnerable to power grabs and even been overthrown from factions such as the Obsidian Order. Like it or not it’s very unlikely that the Cardasians could be self sufficient and they would be forced into a situation where they would have to tolerate outside interference, so they may as well make it on their terms.

[Nador_Ekoor]

The Cardasian state is on its knees, it is accepting aid from the Federation and its economy has collapsed. The Cardasian Union is now a very tempting target.

While I can appreciate that the Cardasians may want to become isolationist, they may not have the luxury of been able to do so. The new government will be very weak in its infancy, and could be vulnerable to power grabs and even been overthrown from factions such as the Obsidian Order. Like it or not it’s very unlikely that the Cardasians could be self sufficient and they would be forced into a situation where they would have to tolerate outside interference, so they may as well make it on their terms.

Although several points are true, I have a bad feeling about your "weak government", because those dirty scum Fedrats will try and emplace a puppet government to serve Federation goals...this is why I think 1. The Cardassians will have a military leadersip and 2. Will ally with a strong faction that butts heads with the Federation. We won't select the Klingons after the Klingon and Dominion wars, but the Romulans are plausible. Both need help and neither have had bad relations with the other. There are also other minor species that could be added as well that were trading partners or allies with the Cardassians. Very little is known about Romulan allies which opens a big window of opportunity for the Cryptic staff..... So, as it seems that all factions have 4-6 races in it, I can see a Romulan faction with 3-5 sub species. The Devs WILL place the more popular species in as playable. Except for Borg....because the fact is, being a single entity within a hive mind isn't very fun. Now, that doesn't mean that Cryptic won't allow a former Borg to serve (like 7 of 9)...that I dont know, but not being part of the collective.

[Nador_Ekoor]

The Cardassian and Romulan Factions deserve to be included into STO. As we are more reasonable than the Federation and Klingons, we are willing to wait...But we should at least know that these will be added in the future.

[rascalsviper75]

Only the cool races have been added, i think they will add tribbles before they do Cardassians...lol :p

[Moryan_Sorg]

Only the cool races have been added, i think they will add tribbles before they do Cardassians...lol :p

Hey now, play nice!

The Jem'Hadar, Romulans, and Cards won't be down forever. If they were, that would be a travesty as they are very organized powerful groups (though perhaps not always morally sound).

It would also make sense to be able to expand the game into the Delta quadrant. I'd be fine with keeping the Jem'Hadar NPC, but I can't really imagine the ST universe being without Rom/Card PCs forever.