Saber class

[Ruzzell]

What are some opinions on this ship? How would it fit in Star Trek Online?

[walker555]

can you link an image or some info on it

[matt4tay]

The good old Saber Class.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Saber_class

[walker555]

I am betting that it will either be a starting (or close to it) level ship, or a master level ship. Its size alone makes it an outlier, and it is impossible to see how the Devs will interpret it/ weave it into the game.

[Azurian]

Spunky little ship. I liked playing it in SFC3.

I could easily see that as a starter ship and being quite the little bugger in space combat.

[Tumek]

What are some opinions on this ship? How would it fit in Star Trek Online?

I dont see why not, i think the feds need some smaller ships that are on the level of the bird of prey

[Wardog00]

The Federation should have this Saber Class....It will make nice target practice for my gunner.

[BreachAndClear]

I don't know if it will necessarily be in tier 1, as it seems like quite an improvement over the Centaur and Miranda, which also occupy that tier. However, at most I'd expect it to be in tier 2. So, it'll probably be lower-mid level ship. That's just my guess.

[walker555]

Okay, so yall all agree that it should be in the game, but what would it be? scout, beginner, master, what?

[Wardog00]

I don't know if it will necessarily be in tier 1, as it seems like quite an improvement over the Centaur and Miranda, which also occupy that tier. However, at most I'd expect it to be in tier 2. So, it'll probably be lower-mid level ship. That's just my guess.


I agree that it may be a tier 2 ship or possibly a scout class. I know it is used as a patrol craft around Federation Planets in many of the books.

[Ruzzell]

I'm still trying to figure out this little ship. Seems like a federation bird of prey, but it's packing some serious heat. It's obviously not as run and gun as the defiant, but still, where does it go. What are it's science capabilites, durability, and space stamina?

[Vorador]

It will likely be on the same level as a bird of prey. Probably eiither tier 1 or tier 2 frigate/scout.

[BreachAndClear]

Okay, so yall all agree that it should be in the game, but what would it be? scout, beginner, master, what?

Well, it's not a matter of whether or not it should be in the game anymore, since it is in the game. It's pictured in one of the screenshots.

[THORN74]

Saber Class - Scout

Displacemt = 410,000 Tons
Lenght = 189.87m
Draft = 42.48m
Beam = 125.61m

Warp Speeds
Crusing Speed = Warp 7
Max Cursing = Warp 9
Max Emergency Speed = Warp 9.7

Crew = 50 (5 Officers, 35 Crew)

Weapons
Phasers = 4 Type X PHASER ARRAYS
Torps = 2 Photon Torpedo Launchers

1 Type 6 Personnel Shuttle
1 Type 16 Shuttlepod


**** Form A Non-canon Source "ships Of The Starfleet Vol 3"

[walker555]

Well, it's not a matter of whether or not it should be in the game anymore, since it is in the game. It's pictured in one of the screenshots.

Thank You :)

I peronally believe that it should be a higher level ship, maneuverability should be factored into these things, and something should be said for size. The smaller the ship, that harder to hit.

[Traveller]

every one starting in a light cruiser I think any way thats wht i've heard.
The saber class a destroyer aint she?

[Ruzzell]

Clearly weaker than a defiant class, but plenty of teeth, what about defense? Cargo space?

[phifur]

Here a link with alot of information on the Saber class :)

http://techspecs.acalltoduty.com/saber.html

[Stu1701]

The Saber would be good for a small tier 1 ship.

[EbonyBlade]

Little more than cannon fodder.

[phifur]

Tough call It can be a tier 2 or a tier1. If I am to pick one I would say tier 1 just because of crew size.

[Sumoben]

Saber Class [...]
Max Cursing = Warp 9
[.....]

ORLY? :D I didn't know that!

[THORN74]

ORLY? :D I didn't know that!

well ....take it with a grain of salt, it was a NON-canon source. But yeah, its a decently fast ship. its no interpid though..... Interpid has a CANON max crusing speed of 9.975!!! now thats balls fast! and the Prometheus is suppoed to be faster still.

[osena]

well its Light cruser more of starter ship they said we would start of whit a light cruiser or Frigate

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Saber_class

Production base: ASDB Integration section, Spacedock 1, Earth
Type: Light cruiser
Accommodation: 40 officers and crew; 200 person evacuation limit
Power plant: One 1,500 plus Cochrane warp core feeding two nacelles, two impulse systems
Dimensions: Length, 364.77 meters; beam, 225.61 meters; height, 52.48 meters
Mass: 310,000 metric tonnes
Performance: Warp 9.7 for twelve hours
Armament: Four type-10 phaser emitters, two photon torpedo launchers

[BreachAndClear]

The Centaur and Miranda were suggested to be among the available starting ships according to the previous Ask Cryptic. Both ships conform to a similar configuration, and the "peace sign ship" from the trailer also fits that configuration. Perhaps those three ships will fill out tier 1? The Saber class does not match this configuration, and while it has never been confirmed that tier and configuration are synonymous, it is odd that other tier 1 ships would conform to the Miranda-esque configuration while the Saber does not. Perhaps the Saber, with its unique design belongs to the same tier as the Defiant, only with the Defiant as an escort and the Saber as a science vessel? The Saber is also equipped with newer technologies than the basic Miranda or Centaur. E.G. it has type X phasers vs. the Miranda which I believe has type VII. Yes, they're all light cruisers, but the Saber is newer and more advanced than either of the other two, so it may or may not belong in the same tier.

We really don't know what Cryptic is going to do. Perhaps the Miranda, Centaur, and Saber are simply tier 1 science vessels, explorers, and escorts respectively. We also don't know where Cryptic designed ships like the "peace sign ship" fall into the scheme of things. Heck, that ship might just be a Miranda with the saucer section swapped out. We don't know.

[LebowskyBob]

This is DITL's entry on the Saber class: http://www.ditl.org/

Type : Scout
Dimensions : Length : 190 m2
Beam : 250 m
Height : 41 m
Decks : 11
Crew : 403, 200 person evacuation limit.4
Armament : 1 x Type VIII phaser bank
4 x Type VII phaser arrays, total output 4,000 TeraWatts
2 x Standard photon torpedo tube with 30 rounds
Defence Systems : Standard shield system, total capacity 189,000 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium Single hull.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
(TNG scale) : Normal Cruise : 6
Maximum Cruise : 9.3
Maximum Rated : 9.73 for 123 hours.

Considering, going off my memory of First Contact, that the Saber seems rather small I would think that the DITL entry is probably a bit more accurate than Memory Alpha at least on this ship. Type X phasers are quite large, and I doubt that a ship the size of a Saber could mount four of them and be useful as anything other than an over-powered warship (overpowered as in its energy needs would be greater than its energy production).

That said, even with just one Type VIII and four Type VII arrays it would still fairly decent scout ship, and likely even a match against a Bird of Prey considering that phaser arrays are inherently more powerful than disruptor cannon. It would certainly be a fast and agile ship at sub-warp speeds.

[haplo8]

Well, it's not a matter of whether or not it should be in the game anymore, since it is in the game. It's pictured in one of the screenshots.


Well I was going to post a link to the shot but it seems to be missing from the STO screenshots page. :confused:

[Silverspar]

This (http://startrek-games.com/wp-content/uploads/sto-nycc-screen-3.jpg) ship? Was never in the Cryptic screenshot gallery that I recall, was an exlcusive for fansites during the NYCC if I remember.

Looks like a modded Sabre class to me, though someone before tried to say something like it was either a Gorn or an Orion ship. can't remember which.

[THORN74]

This (http://startrek-games.com/wp-content/uploads/sto-nycc-screen-3.jpg) ship? Was never in the Cryptic screenshot gallery that I recall, was an exlcusive for fansites during the NYCC if I remember.

Looks like a modded Sabre class to me, though someone before tried to say something like it was either a Gorn or an Orion ship. can't remember which.

no, it was the green ship from the same NYCC release they were calling a gorn ship. that ship is definately Starfleet. I am hoping that is a teir 1 ship ..... i really like it and would pick it as my starting ship.

i'm guessing this may be the new "stargazer class" that was mentoned in the Path narritive.

[The.Grand.Nagus]

What are some opinions on this ship? How would it fit in Star Trek Online?

Opinions: cool ship. Small, but cool.

How it would fit in STO: its a frigate, so there you go.

TBQH, I'm not sure the STO discussion board is meant to discuss each individual ship, but rather the game itself :o

[matt4tay]

no, it was the green ship from the same NYCC release they were calling a gorn ship. that ship is definately Starfleet. I am hoping that is a teir 1 ship ..... i really like it and would pick it as my starting ship.

i'm guessing this may be the new "stargazer class" that was mentoned in the Path narritive.

I believe i may have found your Saber Class.

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/943/943532/star-trek-online-20090109111336261_640w.jpg

[BreachAndClear]

I believe i may have found your Saber Class.

http://pcmedia.ign.com/pc/image/article/943/943532/star-trek-online-20090109111336261_640w.jpg

Yes, that is the ship that I was referring to. Though the ship posted by Silverspar might be another Federation class with the same type of configuration.

Type X phasers are quite large, and I doubt that a ship the size of a Saber could mount four of them and be useful as anything other than an over-powered warship (overpowered as in its energy needs would be greater than its energy production).

Where is the size of a Type X phaser indicated? I think phaser type is determined by emitter type and not the size of the array (though to my knowledge ship phaser types are never discussed in canon, so this is just conjecture). Thus, the Saber class might be equipped with Type X phasers, they just might not be able to charge enough energy for as long of a sustained blast as the Galaxy which has much larger arrays, and a stronger power source.

[Sumoben]

well ....take it with a grain of salt, it was a NON-canon source. But yeah, its a decently fast ship. its no interpid though..... Interpid has a CANON max crusing speed of 9.975!!! now thats balls fast! and the Prometheus is suppoed to be faster still.

Uh.... Maybe you should read what I quoted again. :rolleyes:

[THORN74]

Uh.... Maybe you should read what I quoted again. :rolleyes:
im assuming ur trying to make fun of my typo .............. cUrsing fo cRusing...........oh well

[THORN74]

Yes, that is the ship that I was referring to. Though the ship posted by Silverspar might be another Federation class with the same type of configuration.



Where is the size of a Type X phaser indicated? I think phaser type is determined by emitter type and not the size of the array (though to my knowledge ship phaser types are never discussed in canon, so this is just conjecture). Thus, the Saber class might be equipped with Type X phasers, they just might not be able to charge enough energy for as long of a sustained blast as the Galaxy which has much larger arrays, and a stronger power source.

breach.......... thanx for the backup on the ship

and I agree with u on the Phasers .......... type X is about power, NOT SIZE. The size of the array only limits the firing arc. the TYPE is about the ammount of power thw phasers can output. higher the # the more powerful

[Ruzzell]

If the Saber class is not a tier one ship, then above training ships what ships are tier one.

[BreachAndClear]

If the Saber class is not a tier one ship, then above training ships what ships are tier one.

Given what a recent Ask Cryptic says, likely the Centaur and Miranda classes. There will probably more than those two, but the complete list of ships from ST canon that will make it into the game is unknown, not to mention ships of original Cryptic design.