if pay no play

[jediblade]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

[Toaster87]

Are you talking about paying each month?

[Spirt_Of_Fire]

noo its how servers stay online and new content is added and the cost to develop a huge world think before you speak

[Lence]

what the TPAM said.

[Kuhr]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

Well...you will not be playing then.

[KypFisto]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

You haven't played many MMOs, have you?

Regular games require one development cycle culminating in a final release with a few patches an expansions if necessary. MMOs have to constantly change and be added too. Aside from patches, you also get new content and the company maintains teams to continuously work on the project. That stuff costs money.

[mook42]

:QUOTE=jediblade;342109]if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad[/QUOTE]

well im going to pay if we did not pay there would be no updates new cont. so on plus alot work go's in to making a mmo 3 to 4 years .and i look at it like this if im haveing FUN the 13$ a mouth is well worth it to me
and its not WRONG to pay to play ever time a new mmo comes out peaple like you say this get over it and just dont play the game you cheap blank:D

[Eisenwolff]

Well good bye then Troll

[Urantia]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

Well since you will not be playing....by all means feel free to hang out here for free and chat away (in the appropriate forum of course).

[Azurian]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

Sorry, but nothing in life is free. And Cryptic isn't doing this solely out of charity.

BTW, TOR isn't going to be free either. ;)

[fireraven]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad
yeah we shouldn't have to pay a monthly fee... it should just cost $1000 to buy the game.... that outta make it possibly to not pay a subscription fee and keep updates and improvements coming.....:eek: lol

[Rgoodfel]

Well for those that don't want to pay for the game, I will say you will be missed.... well probably not.

[Urantia]

Sorry, but nothing in life is free. And Cryptic isn't doing this solely out of charity.

BTW, TOR isn't going to be free either. ;)

Nor has SWG ever been (aside for beta of course).

[Toaster87]

I will miss them.....i like cannon fodder

[Kinneas]

Some in this community have supported a subscription based models for Trek games since SFC and for a decade the 'free' upgrades, expansions, etc. crowd won and we got NOWHERE with advancement in Trek gaming.

In fact we have gone backwards in many ways with Trek games looking better but being so incredibly dumbed down when trek titles used to be award winning titles.

The opposition in this community to the subscription based model caused no movement on this issue with the studios and game makers and the games NEVER had the proper contracts or enough money to see us keep getting better R&D, better game-play, 3D options, better graphics etc, etc. in the Trek titles.

Now everyone has an MMO and we have had to wait year after year for ONE Trek game that could be funded properly and evolve.

Again. FREE got us nowhere and will keep the idea of evolution in a Trek gaming title going nowhere.

First: SHOW THEM THE MONEY!

---

There have also been good ideas presented on how to let folks come in for free as civilians, build homes, get civilian ships and work their way up and off planets and to get bigger and bigger ships to stave off pirates, become a pirate or other and maybe even get big enough to compete with the military forces of the empires...

...but that truly would be a long road.

Seems fair though.

[jojobean]

Most MMOs cost big $$$ to make why would they let you play for free every month? Pay to Play is the business standard in most MMOs today. Why be a cheap skate?

[jojobean]

yeah we shouldn't have to pay a monthly fee... it should just cost $1000 to buy the game.... that outta make it possibly to not pay a subscription fee and keep updates and improvements coming.....:eek: lol


If they offer a lifetime subscription option you can pay x amount and play forever until the plug is pulled or we all die from a nuclear holocaust .

[Kinneas]

If they offer a lifetime subscription option you can pay x amount and play forever until the plug is pulled or we all die from a nuclear holocaust .

Sounds good too.

[Toaster87]

I want to see how the game will play out over a long time before i think about paying a lifetime subscription.

[minago]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

taken from the fact.

Q: Will a monthly fee be required to play?
A: We haven't decided on pricing plans yet.

http://www.startrekonline.com/faq

[OzHawkeye]

I've just registered here, after waiting for the pieces of STO's first developer to be cleaned up enough that I'd start following the new development cycle again.

First thread I saw is some whinger going on about not paying for a subscription fee. With trepidation I read all the following comments, and was greatly relieved to see that everyone was putting the OP in the tiny little dark place he belongs.

I want STO (Mark2) to be a phoenominal success. I want to be playing it for a good 5 years (I lasted 4 years and 4 months in WoW). I want the content to be rapidly updating.

For all the reasons, I want the subscription fee.

[Toaster87]

Welcome to the forums! maye ur posts of wisdom carry on for may years to come :p

ye subscription fee should be a must. Its the only way to ensure the game will be updated reguarly and severs are maintained properly

[TruthSeer]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

*waves* Bye *waves*

[OzHawkeye]

Welcome to the forums! maye ur posts of wisdom carry on for may years to come :p

ye subscription fee should be a must. Its the only way to ensure the game will be updated reguarly and severs are maintained properly

May you live long and prosper Toaster87. Thanks for the welcome. I'd put a smiley face in there, but I can't find one that will fit into the Vulcan-style of playing I look forward to doing, someday, at last, after 30 years of watching Trek and 10 years of MMO'ing.....lol.

And yes, Subscription Fee FTW.

[nebula0201]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

You must pay! If you don't pay you don't play! Simple huh? When you goto your local resuraunt and say hey I want to hang out with my friends but were not going to buy anything. You think they'll let you say? You say well this month my friends will come stay at my house or apartment you think you don't have to pay land taxes or rent? Just because your with friends dosn't make things free!

The game expenses go to the following:
-Advertisment
-Developers
-Servers
-Bandwidth
-Your Questions saying Im Stuck in a planet and i can't get myself out

Im sure theres more but i can't think of any :D

[Hagon]

I'm fee and I'm great, but that's an anomaly.

[djnattyd]

Hmm... another 1st time poster moaning about something... how much are you betting that he doesn't come back?

[Xidane]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

Since when was an MMO free?? Cryptic can't just go pick from the money tree to support their servers. And no, Santa isn't real either...

[KO_Gilligan]

I'm fee and I'm great, but that's an anomaly.

You're a Fee? well that sounds like a deal.... how much are you?

[ivan50265]

Free. Ha I'd much rather pay a monthly script than have the game be free and get RMT'd to death.

[minago]

Since when was an MMO free?? Cryptic can't just go pick from the money tree to support their servers. An no, Santa isn't real either...

since about 92

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Free_MMORPGs

[Xidane]

since about 99 maybe earlier

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Free_MMORPGs

Rofl... a real MMO, not Ragnarok...

[minago]

Rofl... a real MMO, not Ragnarok...

ya get what ya pay for :D

but really there is no telling how the paying may turn out this was taken form an article i found awhile back

just abit of something i found that may be of interest

Atari's Phil Harrison Talks Cryptic and Online Strategy

STORY (http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/features/ataris-phil-harrison-talks-cryptic-and-online-strategy/?biz&page=1)

BIZ: Speaking of business models, Disney Online has had success with Pirates of the Caribbean Online as a free game and micro transactions are gaining popularity in this space. How do you decide the right business model?

PH: What we're seeing is fragmentation of the MMO business model. It's no longer the rigid "buy the disc and then buy the subscription with your credit card" that we've seen in the past. I think having a free-to-play or "freemium" business model dramatically increases the potential audience that can play your game and is a compelling way of growing the business for the world. I think it's going to become the preeminent business model for the future, but not all games will work for that style. Some will be subscription-based, some will be micro-transaction-based and some will be a combination of the two.

BIZ: Will you experiment with the different models?

PH: We have not made any announcements about the specific business models but I think it's safe to say that you'll see us pioneer as much as we can.

.................................

yes there was a lifetime subscription contest awhile back .

but that as under cryptic.

since they got acquired by atari anything is possible.

just like the faq says

Q: Will a monthly fee be required to play?
A: We haven't decided on pricing plans yet.

http://www.startrekonline.com/faq#8

[Xidane]

I like your profile pic, is that a Final Fantasy sketch??

[Xidane]

ya get what ya pay for :D

but really there is no telling how the paying may turn out this was taken form an article i found awhile back

just abit of something i found that may be of interest

Atari's Phil Harrison Talks Cryptic and Online Strategy

STORY (http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/features/ataris-phil-harrison-talks-cryptic-and-online-strategy/?biz&page=1)

BIZ: Speaking of business models, Disney Online has had success with Pirates of the Caribbean Online as a free game and micro transactions are gaining popularity in this space. How do you decide the right business model?

PH: What we're seeing is fragmentation of the MMO business model. It's no longer the rigid "buy the disc and then buy the subscription with your credit card" that we've seen in the past. I think having a free-to-play or "freemium" business model dramatically increases the potential audience that can play your game and is a compelling way of growing the business for the world. I think it's going to become the preeminent business model for the future, but not all games will work for that style. Some will be subscription-based, some will be micro-transaction-based and some will be a combination of the two.

BIZ: Will you experiment with the different models?

PH: We have not made any announcements about the specific business models but I think it's safe to say that you'll see us pioneer as much as we can.

I'm assuming they have a number of adds in the game, and on their sites, turning MMOs into a form of advertising would be a brilliant idea, making it Freemium would only increase the number of viewers. Then again that's Disney, and they have the long standing name and cash to afford that. :)

[Rick_Fias]

Well good bye then Troll

What he said!

[minago]

I like your profile pic, is that a Final Fantasy sketch??

the secret origin of my avatar

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/marketplace/n/nickbusby/gamerpics.htm

it's at the bottom

i used the pic on my old account ...which i haven't used in about 2 years ..i've gotten more use from the avatar :)

nick bubsy just draws random things .

but ya know since ya mention final fantasy ...i want to go look up a avatar

[Hagon]

You're a Fee? well that sounds like a deal.... how much are you?Darn, sad attempt at humour foiled by a typo!

[Debaser]

I've just registered here, after waiting for the pieces of STO's first developer to be cleaned up enough that I'd start following the new development cycle again.

First thread I saw is some whinger going on about not paying for a subscription fee. With trepidation I read all the following comments, and was greatly relieved to see that everyone was putting the OP in the tiny little dark place he belongs.

I want STO (Mark2) to be a phoenominal success. I want to be playing it for a good 5 years (I lasted 4 years and 4 months in WoW). I want the content to be rapidly updating.

For all the reasons, I want the subscription fee.

Welcome to the forums!

I have to ask, what server(s) did you play on in WoW? I keep thinking I'd end up running into some of my old guildies here eventually, but no luck so far.

[OzHawkeye]

Welcome to the forums!

I have to ask, what server(s) did you play on in WoW? I keep thinking I'd end up running into some of my old guildies here eventually, but no luck so far.

Started on Proudmoore back in Nov 04, moved to Greymane around 06, then Aman'Thul in 07 before ending up multiboxing 5 Shamans on Caelestracz till quitting in Dec 08.

You?

[AdmGillis]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

Sounds like someone's mad they can't pirate this game, like they did Legacy and Elite Force 2.

Sorry, but good games cost money. You pay money, these guys get paychecks... these paychecks allow them to live a decent life, and in turn they continue to make content for you.

I just don't get this sense of entitlement some of you idjits have. Is it because you're in middle school, and your allowance is limited?

It costs about $15 a month for most MMO's. I make that in the first 20 or so minutes at work, getting my coffee.

[1MGSIX]

The OP troll just got 5 pages of responses out of you. Don't bother reponding to these threads. An official pay to play statement from the Devs that is stickied would make them go away.

[Vicelance]

Most free MMO's are pretty bad. I play some which are kind of entertaining for a while but to experence the full game you need to buy addons or membership from the comany. I am willing to pay 15 a month for a great star trek experience and if it is offered possibly even buy lifetime membership.

No entertaiment on the web is free someone somewhere is paying for every site on the web which is why there are so many adds. Do you plan on calling up your internet provider and telling them you want the internet for free? its the same thing you are asking for here.

[_Pax_]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad
...

Someday you'll be a teenager, or even an adult, and you'll understand just how foolish and very, very young your words have made you seem.

[Urantia]

...

Someday you'll be a teenager, or even an adult, and you'll understand just how foolish and very, very young your words have made you seem.

Strangely I doubt he will understand what you just said.

[_Pax_]

Not until he's older, anyway. ^_^

[k.mpok]

Well sorry to see you go. There are many here that feel just the opposite and would not play if it was a f2p game.

[SelorKiith]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

Oh then... Goodbye! Was nice to know you!

[Freejack]

Since when was an MMO free??

Where have YOU been?

REQUIEM: Bloodymare (http://www.playrequiem.com/)

Perfect World (http://pwi.perfectworld.com/)


Started on Proudmoore back in Nov 04, moved to Greymane around 06, then Aman'Thul in 07 before ending up multiboxing 5 Shamans on Caelestracz till quitting in Dec 08.

You?

Aman'Thul? I retired my BM Hunter there about six months ago. I dig those Oceanic servers. ;)

[bkm250]

To the original poster....

Picard says "Shhhhhhush."

Make it so.:D

[Lizzio]

You haven't played many MMOs, have you?

Regular games require one development cycle culminating in a final release with a few patches an expansions if necessary. MMOs have to constantly change and be added too. Aside from patches, you also get new content and the company maintains teams to continuously work on the project. That stuff costs money.

Not all of them example: Silkroad

[Krakkken]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

Is this a joke? What online mmo doesnt ask you to pay for the premium product? Somebody is already playing in fantasy land.

[OzHawkeye]

Aman'Thul? I retired my BM Hunter there about six months ago. I dig those Oceanic servers. ;)

Gotta love realms that sell meat pies and vegemite as vendor food items.

Ok, so maybe they didn't, but they shouldda I tells ya! hehe

[Teleon]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out

IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

You are actually paying for the use of Critic’s server / servers and not technically for the game. However, since the game is played off of their servers you do in a sense pay to play the game. In any event, I find absolutely nothing wrong with paying for the use of a server.

[Xidane]

Where have YOU been?

REQUIEM: Bloodymare (http://www.playrequiem.com/)

Perfect World (http://pwi.perfectworld.com/)




Aman'Thul? I retired my BM Hunter there about six months ago. I dig those Oceanic servers. ;)

Good MMOs not random lameness that no one's heard of. I suppose I should rephrase my question though..

Since when have big MMOs been free...

[Silverspar]

Where have YOU been?

REQUIEM: Bloodymare (http://www.playrequiem.com/)

Perfect World (http://pwi.perfectworld.com/)




Aman'Thul? I retired my BM Hunter there about six months ago. I dig those Oceanic servers. ;)

Those games aren't free either, since you gotta buy the good stuff in order to do the fun stuff.

[Blackheart]

he probly doesn't even know what a MMO is...he's more than likely about 10.

[Hagon]

There's some fine MMOGs out there that are f2p. Not many, but some.

The thing is though, they're not "really" free now are they? I mean, sure you can play them for free, but you're still encouraged to buy items from the item malls, and most often a lot of those items will give you an advantage. That ranges from more powerful weapons and other gear, down to even better health/mana pots. So in the end a lot of those games come down to those who can spend the most do the best.

Then there's the Guild Wars model, which although it isn't a true mmorpg, does lead a lot of people to believe that all these games should be like that. I personally think Guild Wars can't compare to a sub. based MMO in terms of added content and customer service, but a lot of others don't agree.

[djnattyd]

If i don't have to pay to play this game then i will not play...

Free MMOs' with no content MAKE NO SENSE!!!

[TheFeelOfCotton]

Sorry, but nothing in life is free. And Cryptic isn't doing this solely out of charity.

BTW, TOR isn't going to be free either. ;)

haha, very well put.

[popestkd]

I am realativly new again to this commuity. I was very much involved in Battle Tech. I beta tested, was a [MPBT] ODX. My player was Col. Xargun under Memnoch. Im sure things have changed a great deal since then. If I remember right I paid 9 or 10 buck a month to gamestorm.com and was given a free account when I became a MPBT. Anyone been there? really excited about this STO.

[JDHester2000]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

LOL 3+ pages of post (Edit: Oh crap, 7 pages!). This is clearly a troll. Look at his post count (as of this posting it is at 1). There is no way Cryptic is going to make this like Guild Wars. There is going to be way too much going on that needs a constant revenue flow. It's STO which came back from the dead. I will pay to play. Zombie STO!

[Major-Opale]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out

IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

I'll pay to play, because i'm too lazy to devellop my own Star Trek game.:)

[Kahn773]

That you would post this at all shows you have no idea how companies or MMO's work. Cryptic has to make money to pay it's employees and maintain the servers we all will be playing on among other costs. Cryptic is investing millions of dollars in STO and must make a profit if it is to survive in this economy. The something for nothing crowd ought to invest in a book on how the world really works. :mad::mad::mad:

[DeathsAngel117]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

Have you ever rented a movie?
Paid a phone bill? The phone companies are charging by the minute!!!! And most phone calls are really not all that fun!

I have absolutely no issue paying a couple bucks a month for unlimited socialization and entertainment.

[Starrider543]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

i think they should have members and nonmembers like runescape where nonmembers can play but they cant do everything like no cloak, few quests, etc so jediblade and others won't get every thing, but they will still be able to play.

[thefreshjedi]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

I R confuzzed kitty? (http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z282/debster615/cat_omg_wtf.jpg)

Esplain to me?

-avery

[Cryptic_Fan_101]

I want a pony! :mad:

[SelorKiith]

i think they should have members and nonmembers like runescape where nonmembers can play but they cant do everything like no cloak, few quests, etc so jediblade and others won't get every thing, but they will still be able to play.

As I said in another thread... let nonsubscribers stick to a shuttle and a Handphaser... and nothing more...

[Kinneas]

As I said in another thread... let nonsubscribers stick to a shuttle and a Handphaser... and nothing more...

Aw. I'd give em TONS more to do!

Especially planet content creation tools to start fleshing out the surroundings of very well known planets and civilian ships that CAN be harassed by NPC pirates to create missions for low level security forces (there could be ways to let civilians and subscribers interact?)

Open shop tools: legal and black market

Tours

mining and shipping

everything you would expect civilian populations to be able to do.
---
It would be very interesting to see if individual civilians or groups could work their way up to ships that could actually compete with empire ships...for free.

There are millions of folks out there who do not want to play but want to visit it because it is kind of a modern world wonder for Trek. After it launches, making it more accessible to them would be nice.

Instead of Second Life: Why not use the MMO for an annual Star Trek Convention on BABEL. :)

[eNDIE]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

Gz it seems that many took the baite:)

[SelorKiith]

There are millions of folks out there who do not want to play but want to visit it because it is kind of a modern world wonder for Trek. After it launches, making it more accessible to them would be nice.

Give em free trials... problem solved... they can test it 10-14 days...
If they do not want to play and pay they are nothing good for the game...
And why give em a whole game? That will only lure idiots, retards and gold spammers en masse that have fun of destroying a game...
Show the what they COULD get if they just pay, so give em a small shuttle without armament and a handphaser and nothing more and no chance to aquire more instead of a message "Free trial is limited to a shuttle and Phaser... want more? Pay!" and do not give em a reason of saying "Why paying... I like it..."

'No pay' Option -> FAR less subscribers -> FAR less money -> FAR less support and new content

Please don't be so naive by thinking that the most would gladly pay if there's an option of not doing so and although having a whole game...
Just in case you do not want STO to go the way of every free MMO...
I personally want a good support no... the BEST support and content... for the game that is achievable... and that is not the case by making it free... I don't want to see STO being the next FTP Asia-Grinder-MMO that's just not looking like an Anime...

[Voorhees]

lets see what the list consist of for keeping the game alive:

Servers

Electricity

Developers

IT guys to run the servers

Constant updates

bug fixes

new content

expansion development

Forums

sites

community relations.

Support people to help those that cannot figure out where the play button is at

Rent for the building

Personal assistants

Must i list more?

So 15 bucks gives you personal engineers, programmers, support staff and most importantly a good game!

I am willing to pay 15 bucks a month to have my own personal engineers keep my game that i play stable.

[TheFeelOfCotton]

Damn i never figured that one post, from someone who's never posted on here before could get everyone so riled up.

But to get to the point, I have seen the difference in free-to-play and pay-to-play MMOs, and I will pay-to-play everytime. The whole idea of free MMOs with a crap load of micro transactions doesn't appeal to me.

[Sealance]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad
/facepalm
Do you work for free?

[Tranchera]

I was about to lock this thread, but I forgot I don't have mod powers here. :(

[DanSeale]

lets see what the list consist of for keeping the game alive:

Servers

Electricity

Developers

IT guys to run the servers

Constant updates

bug fixes

new content

expansion development

Forums

sites

community relations.

Support people to help those that cannot figure out where the play button is at

Rent for the building

Personal assistants

Must i list more?

So 15 bucks gives you personal engineers, programmers, support staff and most importantly a good game!

I am willing to pay 15 bucks a month to have my own personal engineers keep my game that i play stable.

Right here in a nut shell is the entire discussion.

To further put this into perspective: Most folks my age think it is really dumb to pay to play .. I "M NOT that fond of it. BUT, the truth is if you want a game that continues to GROW .. this is what it takes to day. (I hope that some of you realize what it takes for someone like me to have to make that kind of a change)

I will personally only play ONE MMO game. Sooooo looks like when STO comes out .. hehehe a certain game in which I have a lvl 80 toon will be history for me

I really am looking forward to STO.

[willriker09]

I would give my kidney to play this game so paying is OK by me.

I'm serious about the kidney thing.

[Sloan_S31]

If they make this a quality, decently authentic Star Trek experience, I'll pay up to 75 bucks a month for it.

Not paying anything at all for anything less.

WANNA MAKE MONEY, CRYPTIC? Make this some good Trek then. Quality Trek sells, crap trek doesn't.

[naynayz]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

Fine. dont play but I will pay to play a quality game of STO. If I have paid SOE for 5 years for a game to distract me till this release, I will make a commitment to the game I have ACTUALLY wanted.

:Edit:
Besides, since when do Jedi's become captain?

[EremiticWolf]

LOL 15 dollars a month is 1 movie and treats at a theater.
I'll pay to play.

[MerakBashee]

Like a friend of mine once said:

"You pay for quality."

[_Pax_]

Or, turned around: "You get what you pay for."

[djnattyd]

The puzzling thing about all the "I DON'T WANNA PAY!!!" posts is; unless you play free MMOs' or are very naughty and D/L games illegally, you still have to pay for them.

[Voorhees]

There is only one commercial mmo that do you do not need to pay to play. That's guild Wars. The quality sucks as does the lack of content. You want new features you pay for them tho. Again you get what you pay for.

[Paulo999]

if i have
to pay to play this i wont play this at all because no one should pay to play and hang out



IT IS WRONG:mad::mad::mad::mad

then you wont be playing

[Voorhees]

Before making threads stating i will not pay for this game because I should not have to pay to play kind of thing. Why don't you ask the mmo vets why is it viable and get an understanding of the modeling behind it.

There is many of us that has played mmos in the past. Myself I have tried just about every mmo out there. Some free mostly paid. I played Star Wares galaxies for 5 years. If Star Wars was free to play the updates would been far in between and the content would of been lacking. Granted the game had a bumpy ride with the developers decisions. Because they make money off the game they were able to fix some of those decisions.

[_Pax_]

There is only one commercial mmo that do you do not need to pay to play. That's guild Wars. The quality sucks as does the lack of content. You want new features you pay for them tho. Again you get what you pay for.

I'm not even certain I'd call it an MMO.

It's more like a 3D Diablo, with a VERY fancy set of Lobbies.

[elephantinc]

I think it should be pay to play but people can play for free but inly play on a mates ship (so they play as one of the bridge crew)
I know my mate will not buy it if it is pay to play but if he could get a taste of it first (trials dont seem to do it for him) he might be more likely to sign up

RE: Guild wars, Each chapter costs around £15 now (with the current exchange rate thats about 5 cents :p )
and thats more than a MMORPG costs for one moth, and TBH each chapter of guild wars didnt have enough content to entertain me for more than one moth....

I will play if its pay to play but only if its not over £12, cos it really annoys me when americans pay $15 yet we pay £15 (which is much more). Sony station im looking at you!

[Itsbeenalongroad]

:eek:
I can't believe this thread is still alive.................:confused:
And yes, GW is diablo with fancy lobbies called towns. Learn lessons on what not to do from them, but don't take anything from them to implement in an actual MMO.

[_Pax_]

I think it should be pay to play but people can play for free but inly play on a mates ship (so they play as one of the bridge crew)
Uh, no, that strays into "PC Bridge Crew" territory, and Cryptic has already given that the axe.