The Path to 2409: 2384

[nhamlett]

Federation analysts say that a shakeup in the Romulan power structure has left the empire vulnerable to attack from within and without. Starfleet is dispatching additional ships to the border of the Neutral Zone and considers the Romulan situation one of the main threats to Federation safety and security.

Read more here! (http://www.startrekonline.com/timeline/2384)

[Jonathan_Talon]

I'm sure many in the Federation smiled at the news of Tal'aura' death. We can only hope the unification movement goes through so I can have my Trill/Romulan hybrid by 2409.

[Zerosignal]

Love the story! Keep it going :)

[Lolcutus]

Just hope that the Bajorans finaly become a part of the Federation, I also wonder why the Gorn just couldnt release the Klingon prisoners if they were acting against orders.

[Samurai02008]

So they moved B4 to the Soong Institution huh? Shame. Hope they bring him back online soon. I did enjoy his part. Although I must say that I dont think that Sela should have been made Commander of the Fleet. Never really did like the way she ran things. It would also be nice to see what Wesley brings to the story. I was just looking on wikipedia and appearently he rejoined Starfleet and made it to Lt. Jr. Grade in Star Trek: Nemesis. What will happen to Wesley?

[Samurai02008]

Just hope that the Bajorans finaly become a part of the Federation, I also wonder why the Gorn just couldnt release the Klingon prisoners if they were acting against orders.

Covering their collective butts. Thats why. Funny dont ya think? lol.

[marscentral]

I had a feeling you'd give us an update today :D It's nice to get more future history.

[Mystica.Shadowheart]

What a nice way to begin 2009. thank you,really enjoyed it.

Hope in a year full of updates ;)

[CasiusOntius]

Yay woohoo! Great update...assassinations, Odo, and the prospect of maybe, possibly, reviving Data! YAY!

[Deyvid]

Happy New Year! Thanks for the story update :)

This is more interesting developments.

It would be very cool of the Soong Institute would be able to reactivate B-4 and improve his neural processes. If only they could download all of Data's memories into B-4 but unfortunately Data's memory banks were most likely lost in the explosion. :( It is interesting though, to think of B-4 operating within established parameters, and behaving like a Season 1 Data, full of curiosity and wonder at humanity.

The brief portion regarding the Klingon situation is also very interesting. It appears that the Gorn may meet the Klingon Defense Force in war. This may mean that the Gorn will be conquered then incorporated rather than peaceably recruited. Then again, will it play out that they fight each other for a while then in the process declare peace and team up? Sometimes the person you fight with initially turns out to be a good friend in the long run.

[miqrogroove]

Sela did it!

Couldn't care less about B-4 or really much of anything from STX.

Let's get those wormhole aliens back into the thick of things and make sure the Borg don't try to assimilate the Great Link.

[PeRshGo]

Sigh… I guess I am a little bummed because I was still holding out that perhaps Star Trek: Nemesis was going to fall out of Canon.

[Anichent]

This timeline doesn't make sense when it comes to Bajor. According to Star Trek loose cannon novels, Bajor entered the Federation in 2376, not 2384. Check out Star Trek Deep Space 9: Unity (the novel).

Everything else is good so far though...this one thing just doesn't make any sense, especially when they based so much on the novels for the other years and then for 2384 they just ignored the fact that Bajor already enetered the Federation about 9 months after the end of the Dominion war.

[muttw7]

I'm sure many in the Federation smiled at the news of Tal'aura' death. We can only hope the unification movement goes through so I can have my Trill/Romulan hybrid by 2409.

Nah, the Klingons will invade and conquer the fragmented Romulan Empire a la "All Good Things..." though I'd prefer to see them be able to make a fight of it.

Always looking forward to these updates!

[Whisky]

This timeline doesn't make sense when it comes to Bajor. According to Star Trek loose cannon novels, Bajor entered the Federation in 2376, not 2384. Check out Star Trek Deep Space 9: Unity (the novel).

Everything else is good so far though...this one thing just doesn't make any sense, especially when they based so much on the novels for the other years and then for 2384 they just ignored the fact that Bajor already enetered the Federation about 9 months after the end of the Dominion war.
I thought Bajor were Independent but a non member ally of United Federation of Planets. I'm no expert though.

[Davies82]

Thanks for the newest installment to the timeline Awen.
Really enjoyed reading it, keep them coming!
Happy New Year to everyone on the forum too.

[Anichent]

I thought Bajor were Independent but a non member ally of United Federation of Planets. I'm no expert though.

Your right they were until after the Dominion War, September of the following year. The only reason Bajor didn't enter before the war was because Sisko advised them not to, during what should have been the signing ceremony, because he had a vision where the prophets said Bajor must stand alone...but after the war passed, Bajor entered the Federation within a year, Kira was made a Starfleet Captain (I think) and CO of DS9 since Bajoran military personel all became part of Starfleet.

This is all explained in the books, which all compliment eachother for the most part, so I am confused why Cryptic ignored this :confused:

[Magmafire2374]

Thanks for the update and happy new years! :D

Regarding the story:
How messed up is it that Starfleet deactivated B-4? At the end on Nemisis, Picard seemed like he wanted to give B-4 a chance to learn on his own. Instead of giving him that opportunity they just deactivate him? How very odd. I'm curious as to the reason why they deactivated B-4 for transport to the Soong Foundation rather than having someone escort B-4 in person to the the Soong Foundation.

[Whisky]

Your right they were until after the Dominion War, September of the following year. The only reason Bajor didn't enter before the war was because Sisko advised them not to, during what should have been the signing ceremony, because he had a vision where the prophets said Bajor must stand alone...but after the war passed, Bajor entered the Federation within a year, Kira was made a Starfleet Captain (I think) and CO of DS9 since Bajoran military personel all became part of Starfleet.

This is all explained in the books, which all compliment eachother for the most part, so I am confused why Cryptic ignored this :confused:
Perhaps Awen could shed some light on this. I've never read any of the novels, but if this is the case it will need some clarification.

Thanks for the update Awen.

Happy New Year to everyone.

[Inquizitor]

Sela isn't half human is she? Tasha Yar wasnt human. I dont think. was she?

[Anichent]

Sela isn't half human is she? Tasha Yar wasnt human. I dont think. was she?

Yeah, Tasha Yar is Human, she has Ukranian ancestry and was born on Turkana IV, a colony that lost its way and severed ties with the Federation.

[Whisky]

Sela isn't half human is she? Tasha Yar wasnt human. I dont think. was she?
As far as i'm aware Tasha was human.

[Whisky]

Yeah, Tasha Yar is Human, she has Ukranian ancestry and was born on Turkana IV, a colony that lost its way and severed ties with the Federation.

I think i'm going to call you the oracle:D

[John]

some good stuff here and wow some Gorn info also i did like the android and hope he gets up and running again

[Magmafire2374]

Sela isn't half human is she? Tasha Yar wasnt human. I dont think. was she?

She's human. She grew up on Turkana IV rather than Earth.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Natasha_Yar

[lawrie001]

This timeline doesn't make sense when it comes to Bajor. According to Star Trek loose cannon novels, Bajor entered the Federation in 2376, not 2384. Check out Star Trek Deep Space 9: Unity (the novel).

Everything else is good so far though...this one thing just doesn't make any sense, especially when they based so much on the novels for the other years and then for 2384 they just ignored the fact that Bajor already enetered the Federation about 9 months after the end of the Dominion war.

Well in the text it says "Representatives of the Federation Council are pleased to accept Bajor’s renewed application for Federation membership" maybe when they first joined they were on a time-limited or tempory membership? im guessing

[Anichent]

Well in the text it says "Representatives of the Federation Council are pleased to accept Bajor’s renewed application for Federation membership" maybe when they first joined they were on a time-limited or tempory membership? im guessing

I don't think that exists...I think Cryptic is saying "renewed application" because of how they pulled out of joining before the war, back in 2373....but Cryptic also said the wrong thing even if they are trying to say that Bajor didnt joing the Federation in 2376 because it was the Federation who invited Bajor:

There are two ways a planet joins the Federation, either by requesting membership through application or by invitation, Bajor was invited, they never had to apply. Bajor was invited early on in the DS9 series...though I can't remember exactly when.

[Duckdee]

If a war does break out between the Fed and Romulans, can we see that in video form, please? ;)

[0wl]

Amazing events!

[njdss4]

Happy New Year! Thanks for the story update :)

This is more interesting developments.

It would be very cool of the Soong Institute would be able to reactivate B-4 and improve his neural processes. If only they could download all of Data's memories into B-4 but unfortunately Data's memory banks were most likely lost in the explosion. :( It is interesting though, to think of B-4 operating within established parameters, and behaving like a Season 1 Data, full of curiosity and wonder at humanity.

The brief portion regarding the Klingon situation is also very interesting. It appears that the Gorn may meet the Klingon Defense Force in war. This may mean that the Gorn will be conquered then incorporated rather than peaceably recruited. Then again, will it play out that they fight each other for a while then in the process declare peace and team up? Sometimes the person you fight with initially turns out to be a good friend in the long run.

In Nemesis, Data downloads all of his memories to B-4 prior to his death on the Scimitar. The memories didn't take right away, but seemed to be starting to at the end of the movie when B-4 was humming Irving Berlin's "Blue Skies", which Data had sang at Troi and Riker's wedding.

I like where the Klingon/Gorn situation is going. The Klingons conquering the Gorn seems like a logical move, they only needed something to get the ball rolling, and it sounds like this attack might be it.

Great timeline update! I'm loving every bit of it! Thank you!

[Williamshatner]

I wonder if we are just getting bit short version and then when the game is released we will get a longer, more detailed version? anywho, love it so far! Thanks for the update!

[Silverspar]

Yay woohoo! Great update...assassinations, Odo, and the prospect of maybe, possibly, reviving Data! YAY!

God I hope not. Had enough of the Data and Picard show in TNG. He's dead, let it go :p

[IanD967]

hmm although i am pretty chuffed about the story but i think its starting to get too heavily focused on the Romulan side of things than the Federation-Starfleet conflict.


also, who is Laas? :confused: first time i seen that name anywhere and also the first time i has heard Odo becoming an Ambasssador to the Solids. does that mean he has been stationed on DS9??

nice story though :)

[curtst]

Another great update. Just another 25 at this pace!

[Polt]

Although I am happy to see the continuation of the story, I am - disappointed - that the original comment about Cryptic reading the books and taking info from them to use - isnt being held to.

Bajor ideed did join the Federation as a full fledged member in the book UNITY.

The only thing I can think of is that Razor was the one reading and writing these stories. And now Razor is gone, and everything else has become cannon fodder.

The biggest thing yet to happen in the books is in the DESTINY TRILOGY. The entire - and I mean entire - BORG race are eliminated from the universe. 62 billion people in the alpha and beta quadrants are killed in a massive invasion of the borg (7000+ cubes) and then Picard, Riker and Captain Dax find a way to remove the BORG threat forever...

Now how would Cryptic deal with that situation?

[Anichent]

Although I am happy to see the continuation of the story, I am - disappointed - that the original comment about Cryptic reading the books and taking info from them to use - isnt being held to.

Bajor ideed did join the Federation as a full fledged member in the book UNITY.

The only thing I can think of is that Razor was the one reading and writing these stories. And now Razor is gone, and everything else has become cannon fodder.

The biggest thing yet to happen in the books is in the DESTINY TRILOGY. The entire - and I mean entire - BORG race are eliminated from the universe. 62 billion people in the alpha and beta quadrants are killed in a massive invasion of the borg (7000+ cubes) and then Picard, Riker and Captain Dax find a way to remove the BORG threat forever...

Now how would Cryptic deal with that situation?

Wow I haven't read the Destiny series yet, but that sounds amazing...but it was also left out by Cryptic cuz that happen in February 2381.

But now I'm excited to read the Destiny books :)

[Duckdee]

The only thing I can think of is that Razor was the one reading and writing these stories. And now Razor is gone, and everything else has become cannon fodder.
He wasn't. It was, and probably still is, Kestrel.

[SenshiBat]

I believe Data's exposure to the Enterprise crew members families.. developed a interest in extending his own legacy first using 'Spot" as a surrogate family.. then possibly recording his own [data] back up files for prosperity..
I would be feeling a bit distressed if i were a surviving Gorn.. They took a good number of hits the past few centuries.. and the Klingon restoration movement and MArtoks leadership has many veteran crews ready for war.
pity about T'arua. My T'shair friends will miss her.. but obviously one did not...

[JPJappic]

Bajor ideed did join the Federation as a full fledged member in the book UNITY.

The only thing I can think of is that Razor was the one reading and writing these stories. And now Razor is gone, and everything else has become cannon fodder.

The books aren't considered canon anyways. They've already pushed back some things a few years in the timeline which happened in the DS9 relaunch. It's not a huge deal, the membership still happens, just a few years later.

Very good year update btw!

[SenshiBat]

An Alternate Universal Theory?.. Prof.Michio Kaku's PArallel Dimensions and Universe Theory.. is a cadets primer on my list.

[SF_Tenaka_Khan]

Interesting developments. Data did indeed transfer his memory engrams to B-4 in Nemesis, though quite where this story line can go I'm unsure in terms of his possible "return". Good stuff though, keep it coming!

[brett]

Interesting update, looking forward to the future updates.

[fireraven]

first off... thanks for the spoiler Polt... now I don't have to bother reading the 3rd Destiny book that should arrive any day....

Laas was one of the 100 changelings sent out into space to explore and investigate the universe by the Great Link. Odo was one of these and there was an episode where he met Laas who at the time was able to travel thru space in the form of some kind of cosmozoan. DS9 Chimera

As for the Klingon survivors.... maybe the Gorn ate them.... heard they taste like Gagh :D

Cmon did everyone miss the best part of the update...... the Ferengi opening an Embassy/Gift shop on DS9... who else would combine the 2.

I like how events for the Romulans are shaping up.... very Roman :cool:

I can see the situation with the Gorn driving a bigger wedge between the Feds and Klingons

As for B4 they had him shutdown because of the programming by Shinzon... I think he was just activated for Picard to inform him about Data. But they probably kept him offline while they try to purge the programming and improve his positronic net

[Vicelance]

Nice to hear a bit about the Gorn. Now we just need to know how the Orions and Naucisaans become part of the Empire.

[phifur]

Oh no!!! the Gorn going to fight the klingon!!!! Damn I would love to see that war. I like how the story is going so far. :)

[Loekii]

Oh no!!! the Gorn going to fight the Klingon!!!! Damn I would love to see that war. I like how the story is going so far. :)

I actually felt the Gorn aspect seemed 'rushed' and not well written. Gorn ship attacks, government claims its a Rogue captain, but then will not return the captured crew. Sounds more like something written by a novice for some small console game, than by someone working on writing an in depth storyline. Even if it is designed to be a teaser, it could have worded much better. I worry that this is a sign about how the STO Klingon Faction is going to be put together -- basically a rushed and not well written story arch that just lumps the races together into the Klingon Faction. :(

[SenshiBat]

MAybe it was a Gorn Spy Trawler...

[Fernos]

Couple thoughts.

First off awesome Job Cryptic, I like how you are drawing from multiple sources and continuing the Timeline in a logical believable manner.

Now to the “complainers” (“” Edited from a harsher description in my attempt to be a kinder gentler Fernos :rolleyes:)

The Canon about Bajor joining the federation is loose canon at best The Book Unity had so many inconsistencies with DS 9 and TNG that it wasn't even funny, so even among Loose Canon it is is loose.

Also can we please, please stop Martyring Razor? He was a hell of a nice guy, I miss our rambling back and forth PM's But he was an employee...an employee that chose to leave, he was not the defender of all things Trek nor was he the only person doing research or reading novels. Cryptic isn't going to follow every bit of fandom and loose Canon..they just aren't. If people can't come to grips with that fact then they are in for a long miserable ride.

[pyriel32]

awsome read as always

[adoweb]

B4 already have all DATA's Memory. Remember last movie. Picard allowed DATA TRANsFER between DATA and B4. Imho DATA will be back !

Sorry for EN.

[fireraven]

I actually felt the Gorn aspect seemed 'rushed' and not well written. Gorn ship attacks, government claims its a Rogue captain, but then will not return the captured crew. Sounds more like something written by a novice for some small console game, than by someone working on writing an in depth storyline. Even if it is designed to be a teaser, it could have worded much better. I worry that this is a sign about how the STO Klingon Faction is going to be put together -- basically a rushed and not well written story arch that just lumps the races together into the Klingon Faction. :(

it is a timeline update covering a year...... were you expecting a 700 page novel about the incident or the whole incident to take over a yr to happen?

[RockMax]

Geez, so much Romulan drama. You would think they're all teenage girls or something, too much ancient Earth TV would do that to an alien society, huh?

I hope the Soong Foundation can make B-4 smarter and more useful to the Federation, I wonder if Data's memories could become a dominate personality over B-4's positronic brain, since it is under developed.

[Fernos]

Geez, so much Romulan drama. You would think they're all teenage girls or something, too much ancient Earth TV would do that to an alien society, huh?

I hope the Soong Foundation can make B-4 smarter and more useful to the Federation, I wonder if Data's memories could become a dominate personality over B-4's positronic brain, since it is under developed.

The Romulans will always be an angst filled society...they were taken from the myth of Romulus and Remus two angist fill individuals.

Personally I am interested in seeing what the Gorn does with Klingons....The Gorn never played nice with anyone for long...I doubt High Council can maintian their treaty.

Federation Gorn Romulans....it would seem that the Klingons have few friends these days. :D

[TheDart]

I love these timeline updates.

Thanks, bosses. Keep 'em coming, and happy new year. :D

(YAY BAJOR)

[Posideon]

Thanks for the update, loving the storyline. kapla!

[amb]

You can read the German Translation here (http://www.st-galaxy.de/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=527&Itemid=1)


So the Gorn will play a more important role in STO, this sounds very good. They do fit to an mmo and also I'm really curious how Cryptic is realizing game play of the changlings, if they are playable at all.
Thanks Awen and say hello to Razor when you see him ;)

[noonian]

Thank You Cryptic for the Christmas and New Years updates...:D

The story is great! I look forward to reading more about the Klingon/Gorn situation.

I think that Odo will fail to contain the Founders natural tendencies of domination.

Keep up the good work!!

[Jezzer]

The storyline is great. The Gorn/Klingon issue, Romulan Civil War, etc....great story.

[AlienTwo]

it is a timeline update covering a year...... were you expecting a 700 page novel about the incident or the whole incident to take over a yr to happen?

I'd have to agree with the original comment here, the Klingons have gotten barley 4 full paragraphs in these time lines, and the romulans (a non-playable race) have been at the center of every year in review. Isn't something interesting happening elsewhere in the galaxy?

[SenshiBat]

Yes.
Indeed Jezzer .. unless you are a Star Fleet Operations man at HQ with horrable Rules of Enguagement.
Inaction dooms Empires..
Will history teach us nothing? Saraks logic saved Vulcan..but denighing emotion made us interverts. I say.
Save The Exiles.. Free The Romulans.. unify the people..
"You can't negotiate with a government thats leaders keep dying on you " Cira Earth 20th Century Pres.Reagan
"Miss Sela Tear down this wall" paraphrasing Pres Reagan.. Cira 24th century..more or less.
Posted Federation Officer formaly on Orion Vulcan Trade duty.

[Mlgarth81]

Thanks for the update, what a way to bring in the new year

[CaptainHoliday]

I can't wait to hear what happens to B4 and The Doctor.

[LordDave]

I think the issue with there being so much romulan drama is because they aren't a playable faction so everything about why they aren't playable needs to be fleshed out. With the Klingons and Federation, you'll probably hear some history while playing the game. Can't do that for the romulans though until they become playable.

[fireraven]

I'd have to agree with the original comment here, the Klingons have gotten barley 4 full paragraphs in these time lines, and the romulans (a non-playable race) have been at the center of every year in review. Isn't something interesting happening elsewhere in the galaxy?

would I like to hear more about the Klingons yes... but to say one lil incident that will lead to something bigger is rushed and poorly written is jumping the gun. I imagine the Klingon's will get more love in the next update as the conflict with the Gorn expands. but as for other happenings in the Empire... it's the Klingons can sum it up as drink alot of bloodwine, brawl with anyone nearby, drink more bloodwine... go looking for someone else to brawl with

[SenshiBat]

Lord Dave.. He's Right..
Same with the Poor down trodden Gorns..
Look at star map.. Not much left after Dominion wars.. of Empire.
Romulans Would still be key as an Empire that still had Property and span..
The Dominion war is looked at differently in an empire of long living peoples.
The present distress is separating the sum from its parts.. with outside influence taking a minor role..
It's more the Byzantium East and West Empire.. of old Roman Rule.. The Empire could no longer be controlled from a central location.. and began collapsing under its own weight
after the war due to Shinzon's poor Coupe de Ta by assassination. and the snub of the old royals. quasi French Rebellion.. style disenfranchiced powers starting looking for options.. Donatra Empress...
and a house divided can fall.. to outside agents.. but remains dangerious..and protective.
A more standardized relationship could form with Federation member Vulcan as go between.. but a Governemnt in exile operating out of Vulcan would be a Vulcan puppet regime illigidimante to many.
Reunifacation goes against the full Romulan culture..because of the Peacefull terms..
more so then East west Germany.
its complex on many levels and dangerious diplomatic territory.

[Duckdee]

I think the issue with there being so much romulan drama is because they aren't a playable faction so everything about why they aren't playable needs to be fleshed out. With the Klingons and Federation, you'll probably hear some history while playing the game. Can't do that for the romulans though until they become playable.
It could also be that the Rlomulans are the caralyst for whatever state the Federation-Klingon relationship is in by 2409.

[TruthSeer]

It'll be interesting to see how the Gorn and Klingons are going to go from brink of war to collaboration. Granted it'll most likely be through force.

[Flatfingers]

After Tomalak’s defeat by Donatra and her fleet, Praetor Tal’aura removes him as proconsul, choosing Sela as her right hand and fleet commander.

...

On Stardate 61602.00, Tal’aura is found dead in her private chambers. Tal Shiar investigators report that the praetor appears to have been attacked in her sleep.

Oh-ho!

Anybody think these two events are unrelated?

Nope... me, neither.

Nice job, Cryptic! It's good to see that one person can still make a difference in the Star Trek universe. :)

--Flatfingers

[Angelphoenix12]

It could also be that the Rlomulans are the caralyst for whatever state the Federation-Klingon relationship is in by 2409.

this is what im thinking also. also the gorn and klingons should have gone to war. i think thats how the got absorbed.
on the opisite side, you see both Bajor and the Ferengi getting closer to the federation.
i think this story is getting better and better :) keep up the great job kes :)

[Tomkan]

N1 :cheers

[0wl]

Gorn?!

Ewww cannot imagine ever serving alongside that, sounds like a dish best served very cold and then tossed away!

[Tylor_Liles]

well....what bout the relationship that seven of nine and chakotay began in star trek voyager- endgame. picard was in his late 60's maybe at the end of nemesis. so it could be included in the next update possibly.... and maybe they will figure out how to bring DATA back.(death faked, working for section 31 maybe. just ideas) and yes tomalak's guilty of tal'aura's murder.

[Ensign.Ricky]

Sela publically blames the Remans and the Unification movement for the attack. “They claim to desire peace,” Sela says, “but ally with the murderers and usurpers who terrorized our planet and led us to the brink of destruction.

I like how Sela is the one saying that, lol. Is she and the Empress now going to duke it out? Always seems to be a soap opera with them.

The mentioning of Odo and B4 is opening some interesting options for STO.

[NYWolf87]

Federation analysts say that a shakeup in the Romulan power structure has left the empire vulnerable to attack from within and without. Starfleet is dispatching additional ships to the border of the Neutral Zone and considers the Romulan situation one of the main threats to Federation safety and security.

Read more here! (http://www.startrekonline.com/timeline/2384)

i believe they shoul;d also post scout ships on areas normally considerd "dead" from traffic.. chaos leds 2 sneaky greed

[Shakari]

Sela?!?!! Omg, I am very relieved to see that she has not been forgotten in the dust. I wonder if Tasha is still alive or not...:rolleyes:

[jonleach]

love it can't wait for more up dates.

[fireraven]

Sela?!?!! Omg, I am very relieved to see that she has not been forgotten in the dust. I wonder if Tasha is still alive or not...:rolleyes:
Tasha was killed while trying to escape with Sela when she was just a child. She mentions it when meeting in person with Picard the first time.
Actuallly I wouldn't be surprised to find out Sela is behind the murder, Tomalak doesn't have anything to gain.

[da_firey007]

Well I'm still waiting to see the outcome of Picard and Seven Of Nine's research into stopping the Borg for good, Cos that's been a couple of years now and no word on what is happening, But I am liking the fact that Sela has popped her head out from under the rocks to emerge as The Romulan's Top Military Commander, good for her and the death of the Praetor, well Sela popping up so soon and then blaming Unificationist's and Reman's instead of Denatra and her Romulan State seems a little fishy to me, I think that Denatra got Sela on her side and planted the whole thing so she could take control of the Empire for good and hopefully incorporate it into the Federation since it looks like the Klingons are on their way out, taking on anyone that is ****ing them off, from out lying Romulan worlds, to Gorn, whats next, The Klingons calling all out war on the Breen????????.

[trek239]

can anyone please tell me if satr trek online is going to come to the ps3? thanks

[trek239]

Hi, Is Star Trek Online Being Made For The Ps3?

[The_Padre]

Although I am happy to see the continuation of the story, I am - disappointed - that the original comment about Cryptic reading the books and taking info from them to use - isnt being held to.

Bajor ideed did join the Federation as a full fledged member in the book UNITY.

The only thing I can think of is that Razor was the one reading and writing these stories. And now Razor is gone, and everything else has become cannon fodder.

The biggest thing yet to happen in the books is in the DESTINY TRILOGY. The entire - and I mean entire - BORG race are eliminated from the universe. 62 billion people in the alpha and beta quadrants are killed in a massive invasion of the borg (7000+ cubes) and then Picard, Riker and Captain Dax find a way to remove the BORG threat forever...

Now how would Cryptic deal with that situation?

It was implied that they would pick and choose which parts from the books they would include in the game. It should be noted that both the books and STO are forging their own universes separately and as such should be treated so, since STO is set in the 25th century I would imagine that the books aren't going to put the story elements from STO into their story lines once they start publishing books set around that time either.

[Anichent]

Hi, Is Star Trek Online Being Made For The Ps3?

If they make it for the Xbox 360, they will likely make it for the PS3...but so far the only thing confirmed is PC, they say they are considering console, and that they have the technology

[Jayven]

I very much enjoyed this episode in the yearly updates, especially the Romulan advancements in the storyline :D

It is also good to see Odo and B-4 get mentions! Keep up the good work, team :)

[capgjt585]

Hmmm, I wonder what happens to the Romulans now? I'm thinking as the situation there gets worse, the Unification Movement is going to gain more and more traction until at least part of the former empire joins the Federation. I don't that's so far-fetched anymore.

But they'll have to deal with Sela first. LOT of problems with her, particularly if Picard or Riker ever become involved.

I also like inclusion of details about the Gorn, you don't hear about them a lot but you can imagine they still have a role to play...

Bajor as a Federation member is a no-brainer, particularly with Cardassia falling apart. However, I can imagine it will only hamper attempts to help the Cardassians. :/ It might also pull in other small independents (such as the Ferengi) into a tighter bond with the Federation.

I would certainly like B-4 to be "Data all over again", but somehow it may not turn out that way...

[Trekkie]

This was a very interesting update, and I can honestly say that the story has taken a few turns that I didn't really expect. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing where the story goes more than ever now, and this was a great way to start the new year!

[Ozymandias]

So Sela is Proconsul at Praetor Tal'aura's request - and in order to become Praetor one must have the backing of the Senate's Continuing Committee, which is no doubt packed with Tal'aura's supporters just as the Senate itself is... I definitely see her becoming the next Praetor (which I wasn't expecting) and going after the Reunification Movement and the Remans, the two closest and weakest opposing factions... I would be very surprised if it didn't pan out that way.

Very nice update! Thanks a bunch Cryptic for continuing to show a lot of care in making a logical (if surprising at times) timeline.

[Ossiren]

Really enjoyed this update! Can't wait for the next post!

[Fvillha]

So Sela is Proconsul at Praetor Tal'aura's request - and in order to become Praetor one must have the backing of the Senate's Continuing Committee, which is no doubt packed with Tal'aura's supporters just as the Senate itself is... I definitely see her becoming the next Praetor (which I wasn't expecting) and going after the Reunification Movement and the Remans, the two closest and weakest opposing factions... I would be very surprised if it didn't pan out that way.

Very nice update! Thanks a bunch Cryptic for continuing to show a lot of care in making a logical (if surprising at times) timeline.

I concur, Sela has been seeking the Praetor seat for most of her career, shall be interesting to see how short lived it is.

I am almost thinking with all the drama through the whole timeline so far that maybe we'll be able to play romulan faction at game start up. :) (xcrosses fingers, ears and eyes)

[Nagilum]

Nice job I like where the timeline is going.

[ToadMonkey]

interesting time line.....wonder how the "ancient enemy" plays into to these developments. I am starting to formulate possibilities.

[ToadMonkey]

If they make it for the Xbox 360, they will likely make it for the PS3...but so far the only thing confirmed is PC, they say they are considering console, and that they have the technology

I think Champions will be on the 360. So......

[Nelson]

Loved it ........loved all of the different story lines going on ....... keep up the great work

[GeneStarwind]

Great story, but there is one problem the changeling Laas. he is most likely dead by that time.

Remember the sickness (later identified as the morphogenic virus) that spread through the Great Link and was killing the changelings, and we later learned that The morphogenic virus was created by the rogue Federation agency Section 31, and that In 2372, while the Changelings were threatening Earth with apparent invasion, Benjamin Sisko and Odo provided assistance in trying to hunt down the shapeshifters. (DS9: episode "Homefront", and "Paradise Lost")

Odo submitted to a thorough bio-examination at Starfleet Medical in the hopes of helping Starfleet discover a means of detecting or stopping the Changelings. However, at the same time Section 31 secretly infected Odo with the disease in the hopes that Odo would carry it back to the Great Link, where it would infect all of the remaining Founders. (DS9: episode "When It Rains...")

Odo did just that when he was forced to return to the Link late that year to face 'judgment' for killing another changeling. (DS9 episode: "Broken Link") Odo himself was never meant to contract the virus, but a mutation in his morphogenic matrix caused him to develop symptoms. (DS9: episode "The Dogs of War")

Unfortunately, Odo was not aware of his carrying the virus when he linked with Laas in DS9: episode "Chimera". It may be that Laas met with an unfortunate fate during his search to find the Hundred Changelings.

this was something that even the writers of DS9 forgot about. for Laas to be alive you're going to have to Rewrite something on an earlier date to explain how he's not dead or dying, and why Odo forgot to cure him. or just write it that Laas was dying and Odo cured him

resource information http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Morphogenic_virus

[r2data]

Thanks for the update. Makes for interesting reading.

A couple of POIs:

- Does anyone notice how, the Romulans, from a male dominant heirarchical structure, has now turned into a matriachal system? Even more so with Tomalak 'retiring' and even with the death of Tal'aura.

-Also, while on the subject of Romulans, why would Donatra, as self-proclaimed sovereign empress, defer to Tal'aura in the decision of borders and Neutral zone. Should it not be a joint effort?

- Since the Ferengi opened an embassy/gift shop near Quark's, does that mean that Quark's is not the embassy? If so, why does he remain there, given that he will no longer be allowed to trade in latinum?

[SelorKiith]

As I understand this new Neutral Zone and Boarder is between the Romulan Star Empire and the Romulan Imperial State so that's not a surprise that even Donatra defer to Tal'Aura in the case of having the Federation getting a Hand on making the Boarder between them, probably as a symbol of "wanting a little bit peace" to reorganize or something like that...

And I don't get your third point... why would Quark not allowed to barter for Latinum?

[Storim]

Awesome news looks like information is picking up :)

[SenshiBat]

Steady at the Helm.. Look smart.. Sailing Master Tac into the solar winds
EXEC! 21 gun Pseudo salute To Starboard for DS9..
Senior MAster Chief Bosun's :Render all Honours Stand at the Rails..
Signals: Hail Station Docks MAster to send a Pilot Tug out
SCI: Station Ready Data transfers of mission logs..
Helm: easy on the station holding thrusters there...
The PAth to ReUnification begins with one ship..
Show your Vulcan Pride People.. no arrogant smirks.. waving will be allowed today
For we enter the Station with A True Vulcan Explorer Battlecruiser..
Remember avoid Betazoids.. and Suppress your Telepathics here.. they expect us to be friendly in our normal dismissive way let them.. stereotype us it is their greatest weakness..

[Ozymandias]

I concur, Sela has been seeking the Praetor seat for most of her career, shall be interesting to see how short lived it is.

I am almost thinking with all the drama through the whole timeline so far that maybe we'll be able to play romulan faction at game start up. :) (xcrosses fingers, ears and eyes)

In complete agreement here, Fvillha. The issue I see with Sela's longevity is - she's a survivor. She failed to have the Klingon governor assassinated (TNG: "The Mind's Eye"), failed to keep the Duras family in power (TNG: "Redemption, Pt II"), and failed to successfully invade Vulcan (TNG: "Unification, Pt II"). Such high-profile failures would have been literal suicide for most anyone else, but Sela still manages to become Proconsul? That speaks volumes about this woman's ability to survive by any means necessary - and bodes ill for Donatara's fledgling government should she actually become Praetor (under normal circumstances I wouldn't think a half-human/Romulan would qualify, but after the Shinzon debacle and Tal'aura packing the Senate with her supporters, these are anything but normal times for the Empire).

As for playing for the Romulan faction at startup, I'm all for that obviously... ;) Yet, even if the Romulans aren't playable at startup, I'm very glad to see the Romulans who normally take such back seats in the various series, take such a center stage here... though I have to wonder what the Empire will actually look like by the time we get to officially play for them.

[Bladedge]

Representatives of King Xrathis of the Gorn claim that the commander of their warship was acting without orders, but refuse to surrender the surviving crew of the Quv to the Klingon Empire.


Wouldn’t the surviving Klingons rather kill themselves rather than be taken prisoner and disgrace their family and their house.
Unless they have critical information that retains to the survival of the empire the Kilgons won’t be asking for the survivors.

[The_Vulcan_Kid]

Very nice. About Laas though, did I miss something or was he not infected with that disease thing that the rest of the Changelings got? Maybe it didn't affect him...?

[Ozymandias]

Does anyone notice how, the Romulans, from a male dominant heirarchical structure, has now turned into a matriachal system? Even more so with Tomalak 'retiring' and even with the death of Tal'aura.

I don't think the move is as much a societal shift (though certainly there's a lot of that going on right now) as it is people (who happen to be women) grabbing for power and opportunity. However, I always found it interesting that Donatra would proclaim herself as Empress, a title that hasn't been used in the Empire for a very long time.

-Also, while on the subject of Romulans, why would Donatra, as self-proclaimed sovereign empress, defer to Tal'aura in the decision of borders and Neutral zone. Should it not be a joint effort?

Based on my reading of the text, it was Federation involvement that Donatra deferred to Tal'aura, not the establishment of new borders themselves. Though it would certainly be to her benefit in some ways to have Federation support, it could also backfire if there's a lot of anti-Federation feelings among her subjects. So, I can see her officially defer that decision to Tal'aura, knowing full well that she would reject it, while her statement of 'welcoming Federation input' would open some informal channels of communication out of the public eye. A very Romulan political move, imo. :)

[fireraven]

Wouldn’t the surviving Klingons rather kill themselves rather than be taken prisoner and disgrace their family and their house.
Unless they have critical information that retains to the survival of the empire the Kilgons won’t be asking for the survivors.

was wondering the same thing myself.... but then again the Dominion had Martok prisoner for a long time. Maybe the Klingons weren't in much of a position to do anything about it when they were captured... stunned, wounded... maybe the Gorn used a new weapon that the Klingon officer in charge decided was important enough to get info back to the Empire....

[Cpt.Medo]

Bad news for the Romulan people. It seems like the Empire is falling apart and the arrival of Sela can not be good news for anyone. Since she wants nothing more but the destruction of the Federation. At this point Fed's are better of supporting Donatra and her fleet since she is willing to cooperate with the Federation and has been and ally in several incidents.

[KirksOtherSon]

Very pleased to see this. Twists and turns, twists and turns, always the way to go. I expect we'll see more surprising developments before arriving at 2409, and I approve, for whatever it's worth.

I sometimes wonder if history is simply the chronicle of "things which could never happen" actually happening?

A series of surprises, at the very least.

Thanks again for this latest installment!

KOS

[Eidolonael]

B4... wonder if this will be a sort of android uprising meets borg on steroids flashback to the eugenics wars?

Bajor finally in the Federation... bout durn time...

Here's to hoping Species 8472 doesn't somehow infiltrate the great link and mess with their genetics...

Gorn... nice to see them coming back as a force to be reckoned with. Always liked the gorn... lhere lizard lizard...

All in all I can see this is building up to some major conflicts and some interesting political moves. Now about that Ferengi shop on DS9... =)

[capgjt585]

Bad news for the Romulan people. It seems like the Empire is falling apart and the arrival of Sela can not be good news for anyone. Since she wants nothing more but the destruction of the Federation. At this point Fed's are better of supporting Donatra and her fleet since she is willing to cooperate with the Federation and has been and ally in several incidents.

True, but don't forget the Klingons. I think it is over the fate of the Romulan Empire that the Federation and the Klingons decisively part ways. The Klingons are obviously itching to take at least part of the Romulan Empire for themselves (or strengthen the Romulan civil war as a means of vengeance for Romulan interference in their own civil war), but the Federation doesn't want that because it would upset the old balance of power that had resurged following the Dominion War and Cardassia's defeat.

I think at heart, the Federation does not want to see the Romulan Empire fall apart because then the only other major local power is the Klingons, resulting in a far less stable bipolar situation as compared to the multipolar balance that existed before the Dominion War.

[KirksOtherSon]

This timeline doesn't make sense when it comes to Bajor. According to Star Trek loose cannon novels, Bajor entered the Federation in 2376, not 2384. Check out Star Trek Deep Space 9: Unity (the novel).

Everything else is good so far though...this one thing just doesn't make any sense, especially when they based so much on the novels for the other years and then for 2384 they just ignored the fact that Bajor already enetered the Federation about 9 months after the end of the Dominion war.

Hi Anichent,

Sorry if this has been touched on already, but I wanted to help out, and I haven't yet worked my way through all eleven pages of comments.

You've sort of answered your own question here. Cryptic regards the novels as "soft canon" only -- meaning, they'll take ideas and elements from the novels which work for them, but they do not feel obliged to follow these sources to the letter, not least because they aren't true canon like the TV shows and movies.

So, why didn't they follow the novels in regards to Bajor's admission to the Federation? Possibly because what Cryptic has in mind works better for the game they have planned -- possibly because they just wanted to do it differently. We may never know.

It may help to think of the soft canon stuff (all the novels, the comics, et cetera) as suggestions, while only accomodating the TV episodes and films is an actual requirement.

Hope this helps,

Cheers,

KOS

[KirksOtherSon]

Although I am happy to see the continuation of the story, I am - disappointed - that the original comment about Cryptic reading the books and taking info from them to use - isnt being held to.

Polt, my friend, it was never said that the novels would be treated as true canon (like the TV shows and movies) but rather as "soft canon", meaning that Cryptic would pull ideas and elements from these sources as it suited the game they're making, while feeling free to leave the rest. Some ideas will be ported in whole (the Romulan political crisis, post-Nemesis); some will be modified (the circumstances of Bajor's Federation admission); and some ideas may not be imported at all.

Not picking on you in the least, Polt, merely using your post as a place to speak up, since I've noticed lately that a number of people seem to believe that the novels = canon script for the game, and it was never meant to be so.

If you see some of the other video interviews with Jack Emmert after the Las Vegas game reveal, here or on YouTube, he does clarify this, since pretty much every interviewer asks him about it.

I can only imagine that it's enough of a nightmare making sure all the official canon elements get properly accomodated while creating a game which builds on same -- to try and factor in all the novels and their "soft" continuity as gospel -- especially when said novels are ongoing beyond what's now in print -- well, it could easily become a game-breaking nightmare, I'm sure.

As I said elsewhere, best to think of the novels as suggestions or possibilities, while only the TV shows and movies are guaranteed.

Cheers,

KOS

[DFawkes]

The Ferengi open a gift shop on DS9 :D That's a nice touch which I'm sure will come in useful in the game.

[KirksOtherSon]

Thanks for the update. Makes for interesting reading.

A couple of POIs:

- Does anyone notice how, the Romulans, from a male dominant heirarchical structure, has now turned into a matriachal system? Even more so with Tomalak 'retiring' and even with the death of Tal'aura.

Not necessarily true, my friend. If you watch the original series episode "The Enterprise Incident", that episode featured a powerful, autonomous (for the 1960s, anyway) female Romulan Commander, leading not one, but three vessels (as I recall).

The suggestion there is that women have always held positions of power and authority in the Romulan Star Empire, as far back as Kirk's time. Quite groundbreaking for a 1960s TV show, actually, although its impact is lost today.

So, it's not so much a shift, as perhaps a shift back -- or a widening of the lens to include elements which have been overlooked for a while.

Cheers,

KOS

[Stonez]

The Federation looks like better keep the home fires burning because they are gonna have their hands full by the looks of things.

[Nonderyon]

When the borg knows about odo ,maybe they want to "collect" him...Shapeshifting borg drones,uhh :)

[Fvillha]

In complete agreement here, Fvillha. The issue I see with Sela's longevity is - she's a survivor. She failed to have the Klingon governor assassinated (TNG: "The Mind's Eye"), failed to keep the Duras family in power (TNG: "Redemption, Pt II"), and failed to successfully invade Vulcan (TNG: "Unification, Pt II"). Such high-profile failures would have been literal suicide for most anyone else, but Sela still manages to become Proconsul? That speaks volumes about this woman's ability to survive by any means necessary - and bodes ill for Donatara's fledgling government should she actually become Praetor (under normal circumstances I wouldn't think a half-human/Romulan would qualify, but after the Shinzon debacle and Tal'aura packing the Senate with her supporters, these are anything but normal times for the Empire).

As for playing for the Romulan faction at startup, I'm all for that obviously... ;) Yet, even if the Romulans aren't playable at startup, I'm very glad to see the Romulans who normally take such back seats in the various series, take such a center stage here... though I have to wonder what the Empire will actually look like by the time we get to officially play for them.

Pends the direction Cryptic writers have in mind, but I can see Sela trying to use her past connections with the Klingons to pull some treachery to gain their support for a better position, maybe agreeing to give up some part of the Empire, hoping to gain the Praetor Seat or take Donatra's. In the Novel Death in Winter Sela was given another black eye by the Feds (Enterprise), so I can imaging she's not happy with the Empire, Feds or herself, so she'll probaby do something real treacherous and dumb like Shinzon did. :eek:

[kip]

man its good to be back its me or i sense the backup of Data will reemerge

[slydragon4]

Another great update!

I find it interesting that there's no mention of where the Gorn attacked the Klingon vessel - was it in Gorn space, Klingon space, something else? (I feel somehow that a genuinely unprovoked attack is unlikely.) Wherever the Gorn were and whatever they were doing there, there was a reason to attack the Quv and a reason for the King to deny responsibility while refusing to release the surviving Klingons. The most obvious reason for that, to me, is 'the Quv saw/heard/found something and couldn't be allowed to report whatever it was.'

I wonder what it was. And I wonder if my crazy brain is grasping at straws, but I've got some fun speculation going on in my head.

[hypnotoad]

Been lurking on the timeline stuff. Kinda was hoping for some enhanced humans showing up with their own empire.

[Fvillha]

Been lurking on the timeline stuff. Kinda was hoping for some enhanced humans showing up with their own empire.

Sssshhhh, Khan was reborn like Spock on the Genesis planet, just took longer to reform, and his been cloned by the Romulans for the next Nemesis II movie, "Revenge of Shinzon"

[Kestrel]

Polt, my friend, it was never said that the novels would be treated as true canon (like the TV shows and movies) but rather as "soft canon", meaning that Cryptic would pull ideas and elements from these sources as it suited the game they're making, while feeling free to leave the rest. Some ideas will be ported in whole (the Romulan political crisis, post-Nemesis); some will be modified (the circumstances of Bajor's Federation admission); and some ideas may not be imported at all.

Not picking on you in the least, Polt, merely using your post as a place to speak up, since I've noticed lately that a number of people seem to believe that the novels = canon script for the game, and it was never meant to be so.

If you see some of the other video interviews with Jack Emmert after the Las Vegas game reveal, here or on YouTube, he does clarify this, since pretty much every interviewer asks him about it.

I can only imagine that it's enough of a nightmare making sure all the official canon elements get properly accomodated while creating a game which builds on same -- to try and factor in all the novels and their "soft" continuity as gospel -- especially when said novels are ongoing beyond what's now in print -- well, it could easily become a game-breaking nightmare, I'm sure.

As I said elsewhere, best to think of the novels as suggestions or possibilities, while only the TV shows and movies are guaranteed.

Cheers,

KOS

Thanks for the excellent sum-up, KOS.

We're looking to novels and other soft canon resources for inspiration, but we aren't using them as absolutes. Some things from the soft canon we will use, other things we will disregard, and still other things we will change to create the game world of STO.

[ldgnlbeowolf]

i see a mention of the changlings are in this story, wonder if the Dominion will be showing themselves... i really did like thier ships and i know the klingons really did like fighting them.

[jla1987]

The story's pretty good. I'm really enjoying the Romulan political stuff, as well as mentioning the Voyager EMH.

[DanielLutrin]

I'm sure many in the Federation smiled at the news of Tal'aura' death. We can only hope the unification movement goes through so I can have my Trill/Romulan hybrid by 2409. The Federation must be celebrating now:)

[LunaticFringer]

I have rarely kept up with the Star Trek novels but I was under the impression from the last movie that there were suppose to be negotiations for peace talks opened up shortly after Nemesis? Riker and Troy taking their new ship there or some such? I do see Donatra figuring in as a prominent figure for future Romulan peace though. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear more about her and Spock in a continuation to mend the old wounds between Romulus and Vulcan along with the Federation.

As to B4? Why would they deactivate him? At the end of the film I'm left with the feeling that the memory engrams surfacing to mumble Data's Blue Skies rendition give us a nod to things going, well, right.

Sorry if these points were already covered somewhere... :D

[TheSecretChangeling]

How Laas is still alive is going to need some explaining (not that I'm not happy that he is alive!). Maybe he went to Odo for help, or maybe he went back to the planet that he came from back when he was married and they manage to work out their own cure to help him. Possibly he could've gone to Starfleet as a last resort. Odo should be the one to cure him, maybe after he went back to the Great Link he remembered Laas and decided to go help him? Or maybe make Laas get lucky and have an immunity to the virus. I wrote a story about this on my computer a while back with my spare time off of school. Ah, I'm rambling. Back to the point.

Looks like the Romulans are having fun with Tal'Aura's death..And Sela replaced Tomalak! Never was really fond of her. Understod her dilemma, but never really got attached to her character. The Gorn in the Klingons seem to be having their own little problems over there. *content sigh* Ahhh, good times, good times.

Anyway, all in all it was an enjoyable read. Can't wait to see the next one.:)

[picardalpha2clearance]

I like the ongoing romulan drama!

[Kinneas]

: Chokes on popcorn and sits up in chair ! :

[Loekii]

it is a timeline update covering a year...... were you expecting a 700 page novel about the incident or the whole incident to take over a yr to happen?

No, actually I am saying the small portion did not seem written as well as it could have been written -- especially given that the Gorn/Klingon Alliance is something brand new to Star Trek Fiction.

Given its importance, as well as it is basically the back story for many players, I hold the fiction to a hire criteria than a simply 'news blurb'.

[Loekii]

Although I am happy to see the continuation of the story, I am - disappointed - that the original comment about Cryptic reading the books and taking info from them to use - isnt being held to.

Bajor ideed did join the Federation as a full fledged member in the book UNITY.

The only thing I can think of is that Razor was the one reading and writing these stories. And now Razor is gone, and everything else has become cannon fodder.

The biggest thing yet to happen in the books is in the DESTINY TRILOGY. The entire - and I mean entire - BORG race are eliminated from the universe. 62 billion people in the alpha and beta quadrants are killed in a massive invasion of the borg (7000+ cubes) and then Picard, Riker and Captain Dax find a way to remove the BORG threat forever...

Now how would Cryptic deal with that situation?

I would suggest that they use the 'alternate Time-line' story line, mentioning some alteration that nudges STO Time-Lime away from the DESTINY TRILOGY Time line.

Alternate Time Lines is an iconic aspect of Star Trek (Alternate Universe, Time Travel Episodes, Temporal War, etc), and as such it is a good device to use, instead of just 'changing fiction and ignoring Lore Conflicts'.

I understand the whole 'soft-canon' point of view, I just do not think it should be abused. Why clash, when you can simply side-step. Clashes should be the last resort, not the first. Stick with the proper dates and basic events, and write in some fictional reason why things are different in STO Fiction, when clashes are unavoidable -- ie why the Borg exist in STO, but not after the events of some soft canon.

The last MMO that decided to pick and choose the Canon, and make gross changes 'just because they could' was SWG, and look how wonderful that game turned out.

[ob1klone]

Updates are comming along a little more regularly. This is a good sign. It means things are comming together behind the sceenes. :)

[Inquizitor]

How Laas is still alive is going to need some explaining (not that I'm not happy that he is alive!). Maybe he went to Odo for help, or maybe he went back to the planet that he came from back when he was married and they manage to work out their own cure to help him. Possibly he could've gone to Starfleet as a last resort. Odo should be the one to cure him, maybe after he went back to the Great Link he remembered Laas and decided to go help him? Or maybe make Laas get lucky and have an immunity to the virus. I wrote a story about this on my computer a while back with my spare time off of school. Ah, I'm rambling. Back to the point.

Looks like the Romulans are having fun with Tal'Aura's death..And Sela replaced Tomalak! Never was really fond of her. Understod her dilemma, but never really got attached to her character. The Gorn in the Klingons seem to be having their own little problems over there. *content sigh* Ahhh, good times, good times.

Anyway, all in all it was an enjoyable read. Can't wait to see the next one.:)


Woudln't Laas have neded to meld wiht another infected changeling to even be sick? I didnt think he ever melded with anyone.

[CaptainTy]

Thanks for the new "Story Bit" guys. :) bring on 2385.

[shildkrote]

Good to see Odo hasn't forgotten his time among the solids.

[fireraven]

Woudln't Laas have neded to meld wiht another infected changeling to even be sick? I didnt think he ever melded with anyone.
he melded with Odo... but who knows since he was able to travel in space without a ship, maybe something he encountered while traveling thru space killed the virus

[indelible]

I hate to be the voice of cynicism here or or anything but I distinctly remember the phrase, "the calm before the storm," being used to refer to the time between Star Trek Nemesis and the start of Star Trek Online.

Let's round up what has happened so far in sequence (aside from me causing a sell checker to be used):

- Tal'aura and Donatra divide the Romulan Star Empire in the wake of Praetor Shinzons death, representing what appear to be two distinct mindsets - one honourable and one not-so-honourable
- The Cardassian Union goes through a raging economic crisis and prominent figures warn that they could fall in as little as three years
- The Federation and Klingons prepare to take on the fallout from a Romulan Civil War, dealing with refugees and aid problem
- A third faction in the Romulan problem appears, in the form of the allied Remans and the Unification Movement, creating another combatant in a potential civil war (as they are proposing a military solution to the problems)
- The Federation actually considers aiding the Unification Movement on Spocks request
- Praetor Tal'Aura steps up her defensive measures against the Remans and Donatra, blockading Remus and securing home systems
- Donatra takes advantage of the weakness in Tal'Aura's forces, managing to conquer several systems with the help of her military allies
- Donatra then proceeds to create the Imperial Romulan State out of her newly conquered systems, declaring herself Empress (which destroys the nice Romulan image we got from Nemesis... I hate you, Cryptic)
- Tal'Aura vows to go to war to get the territory she lost back
- Bajor steps up its campaign against Cardassia, demanding leaders stand trial for things they did during the occupation. Cardassia says no, so Bajor go to the Federation and the Klingons to tell on them
- The Borg reappear, prompting Starfleet to research tech from the Delat Quadrant (which they should have been doing anyway)
- Starfleet commission a new exploration vessel, which is strange considering that Starfleet are on the brink of being pulled into war with not one, but two Romulan states and the Borg...
- Things still go horrid between the two Romulan States, with war breaking out
- Tal'Aura picks her own senate, screwing over the Unification Movement and the Remans
- Klingons attack Romulan Space, reclaiming territories lost to them previously
- Earth backs the Unification Movement
- The Vulcans oppose it through some weird logic
- The Federation Council can't agree and thus don't back the Unification Movement
- The Doctor sues the Federation
- Bajor presses Cardassia for more people to point their whiney little fingers at
- Tal'Aura is killed and various parties are blamed
- Romulan instability comes back
- The Klingons and Gorm start to eye each other up (ie. the Klingons get the horn for the Gorm)
- Bajor asks to join the Federation. The Federation says yes

So all in all, we've got a situation where every major power is involved in some kind of conflict or crisis, apart from the Federation, who just seems to have gotten over the major conflicts it has had with the Dominion, the Borg, the Klingons and other major races really quickly, with no problems at all because the Federation is epic.

So justify the calm. Go on. I dare you. How you can use the tag line, "the calm before the storm," and then come out with this list of horror, doom and tragedy is beyond me. Or are you trying to claim that, "the calm," is the Federation who managed to frog leap aforementioned issues?

Jesus Cryptic. Hire some decent writers. I'm not buying into the propaganda like most of the mugs in this forum.

[Niorah_Aiya]

Ditto.

The way I understood it, Donatra was requested by the Romulan Nobles to represent the Empire, over Praetor Tal Aura, due to her jacking the title and not allowing a properly elected replacement for Shinzon.

[Blackfire2]

Man things are looking bad for the Roms, at this point they are easy prey for a unified government like the klingons to move in and take over, except for the Gorns messing with them, I could see this happen. With the romulan empire torn in three directions like this they could do little to organize a united front against anyone,

But this situation looks too quick and chaotic for it to be simply happening for no reason, or as some might suggest in this thread as bad writing on the part of cryptic. My own assesment is that the Founders are mixed up in this and causing as much havac and instability as possible to give them time to rebuild their forces again. So I think people should consider this possibility.
Notice how the federation seems to be purposely trying to stay in the background? Maybe they know something we dont, and it's a wise precaution. I would do the same.
The Gorn deny they had anything to do with the attack, perhaps the founders took control of the ship to attack the klingons to change their focus fro the romulans and hence making them too powerful by a take over of the roms if left alone.

It's an idea to consider IMO.

[Denzen]

As I understood the release will feature Federation and Klingon factions, perhaps we are simply seeing Romulan civ return to dormant state because of internal troubles like in TOS - TNG. The first appearance of Romulans in TNG was the first time they had been heard from in many years. When Romulans have internal struggles or a brawl with the federation they seem to take a nice time-out from intergalactic affairs to recover.

A war with the Klingons is always a bad thing so Federation ppz should prepare, we will blockade the Romulan neutral zone and set patrols, it is one of our main rules in SF not to interfere in teh internal governance of civz, but I think the Klingons pose a far more tangible threat by the time we are all in space ;)

Maybe I'm wrong tho, it happens

:D

[Captain_Intrepid]

Good ole Ferengi! An extensive embassy and gift shop.

A great way to open up diplomatic ties while making a profit!


Somehow, deep inside me, I sense that it's Sela who was behind the death of Praetor Tal'aura. Just like her to make a powerplay while Admiral Tarsis was on Romulus.


I wonder if the Soong Foundation is going to reverse engineer B-4to create new androids (for creation of android player characters)?

[Denzen]

btw do we have or can we get maps of Alpha/Beta Quadrents from in game? I have found some in ST atlas and such and done quite a bit of research on this. SFC (Interplay 1999, I believe) used a map with these races but it was prettty loose, the maps from the atlas are much better but I have found conflict with this material over a number of sources, it would be nice to see what the official alpha/beta maps will be for this, even just for fun. It would be bery nice to have some comprehensive maps of the ST universe come out through the development of this game.

[TwAgIssmuDe]

Nice update, lot's of interresting things going on. I can't wait to read what happens next.

[FrankieDoo]

Fascinating!

[USS_Paragon]

The story just keeps getting better and better. I can't wait!

[Fvillha]

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ok maybe not :rolleyes:

[The_Padre]

I hate to be the voice of cynicism here or or anything but I distinctly remember the phrase, "the calm before the storm," being used to refer to the time between Star Trek Nemesis and the start of Star Trek Online.

Let's round up what has happened so far in sequence (aside from me causing a sell checker to be used):

- Tal'aura and Donatra divide the Romulan Star Empire in the wake of Praetor Shinzons death, representing what appear to be two distinct mindsets - one honourable and one not-so-honourable
- The Cardassian Union goes through a raging economic crisis and prominent figures warn that they could fall in as little as three years
- The Federation and Klingons prepare to take on the fallout from a Romulan Civil War, dealing with refugees and aid problem
- A third faction in the Romulan problem appears, in the form of the allied Remans and the Unification Movement, creating another combatant in a potential civil war (as they are proposing a military solution to the problems)
- The Federation actually considers aiding the Unification Movement on Spocks request
- Praetor Tal'Aura steps up her defensive measures against the Remans and Donatra, blockading Remus and securing home systems
- Donatra takes advantage of the weakness in Tal'Aura's forces, managing to conquer several systems with the help of her military allies
- Donatra then proceeds to create the Imperial Romulan State out of her newly conquered systems, declaring herself Empress (which destroys the nice Romulan image we got from Nemesis... I hate you, Cryptic)
- Tal'Aura vows to go to war to get the territory she lost back
- Bajor steps up its campaign against Cardassia, demanding leaders stand trial for things they did during the occupation. Cardassia says no, so Bajor go to the Federation and the Klingons to tell on them
- The Borg reappear, prompting Starfleet to research tech from the Delat Quadrant (which they should have been doing anyway)
- Starfleet commission a new exploration vessel, which is strange considering that Starfleet are on the brink of being pulled into war with not one, but two Romulan states and the Borg...
- Things still go horrid between the two Romulan States, with war breaking out
- Tal'Aura picks her own senate, screwing over the Unification Movement and the Remans
- Klingons attack Romulan Space, reclaiming territories lost to them previously
- Earth backs the Unification Movement
- The Vulcans oppose it through some weird logic
- The Federation Council can't agree and thus don't back the Unification Movement
- The Doctor sues the Federation
- Bajor presses Cardassia for more people to point their whiney little fingers at
- Tal'Aura is killed and various parties are blamed
- Romulan instability comes back
- The Klingons and Gorm start to eye each other up (ie. the Klingons get the horn for the Gorm)
- Bajor asks to join the Federation. The Federation says yes

So all in all, we've got a situation where every major power is involved in some kind of conflict or crisis, apart from the Federation, who just seems to have gotten over the major conflicts it has had with the Dominion, the Borg, the Klingons and other major races really quickly, with no problems at all because the Federation is epic.

So justify the calm. Go on. I dare you. How you can use the tag line, "the calm before the storm," and then come out with this list of horror, doom and tragedy is beyond me. Or are you trying to claim that, "the calm," is the Federation who managed to frog leap aforementioned issues?

Jesus Cryptic. Hire some decent writers. I'm not buying into the propaganda like most of the mugs in this forum.

Actually it is easily justified, the upcoming conflicts are going to make these "minor" squabbles pale in comparison. The upcoming conflicts with the Borg, the Klingon Empire and the, as of yet, undisclosed ancient threat will more than likely set the Alpha and Beta quadrants ablaze, that will be your storm and this period will seem very calm indeed.

[Loekii]

I hate to be the voice of cynicism here or or anything but I distinctly remember the phrase, "the calm before the storm," being used to refer to the time between Star Trek Nemesis and the start of Star Trek Online.

Let's round up what has happened so far in sequence (aside from me causing a sell checker to be used):

- Tal'aura and Donatra divide the Romulan Star Empire in the wake of Praetor Shinzons death, representing what appear to be two distinct mindsets - one honourable and one not-so-honourable
- The Cardassian Union goes through a raging economic crisis and prominent figures warn that they could fall in as little as three years
- The Federation and Klingons prepare to take on the fallout from a Romulan Civil War, dealing with refugees and aid problem
- A third faction in the Romulan problem appears, in the form of the allied Remans and the Unification Movement, creating another combatant in a potential civil war (as they are proposing a military solution to the problems)
- The Federation actually considers aiding the Unification Movement on Spocks request
- Praetor Tal'Aura steps up her defensive measures against the Remans and Donatra, blockading Remus and securing home systems
- Donatra takes advantage of the weakness in Tal'Aura's forces, managing to conquer several systems with the help of her military allies
- Donatra then proceeds to create the Imperial Romulan State out of her newly conquered systems, declaring herself Empress (which destroys the nice Romulan image we got from Nemesis... I hate you, Cryptic)
- Tal'Aura vows to go to war to get the territory she lost back
- Bajor steps up its campaign against Cardassia, demanding leaders stand trial for things they did during the occupation. Cardassia says no, so Bajor go to the Federation and the Klingons to tell on them
- The Borg reappear, prompting Starfleet to research tech from the Delat Quadrant (which they should have been doing anyway)
- Starfleet commission a new exploration vessel, which is strange considering that Starfleet are on the brink of being pulled into war with not one, but two Romulan states and the Borg...
- Things still go horrid between the two Romulan States, with war breaking out
- Tal'Aura picks her own senate, screwing over the Unification Movement and the Remans
- Klingons attack Romulan Space, reclaiming territories lost to them previously
- Earth backs the Unification Movement
- The Vulcans oppose it through some weird logic
- The Federation Council can't agree and thus don't back the Unification Movement
- The Doctor sues the Federation
- Bajor presses Cardassia for more people to point their whiney little fingers at
- Tal'Aura is killed and various parties are blamed
- Romulan instability comes back
- The Klingons and Gorm start to eye each other up (ie. the Klingons get the horn for the Gorm)
- Bajor asks to join the Federation. The Federation says yes

So all in all, we've got a situation where every major power is involved in some kind of conflict or crisis, apart from the Federation, who just seems to have gotten over the major conflicts it has had with the Dominion, the Borg, the Klingons and other major races really quickly, with no problems at all because the Federation is epic.

So justify the calm. Go on. I dare you. How you can use the tag line, "the calm before the storm," and then come out with this list of horror, doom and tragedy is beyond me. Or are you trying to claim that, "the calm," is the Federation who managed to frog leap aforementioned issues?

Jesus Cryptic. Hire some decent writers. I'm not buying into the propaganda like most of the mugs in this forum.


While not seeing as gloomy as you do, I do agree that the plot lines are getting a little overly exaggerated.

I realise this is a video game, but I certainly would like to see the Fiction maintain a relative sense of perspective, instead of turning into a Hollywood Action Film plot line from a Seagal movie.

[fireraven]

While not seeing as gloomy as you do, I do agree that the plot lines are getting a little overly exaggerated.

I realise this is a video game, but I certainly would like to see the Fiction maintain a relative sense of perspective, instead of turning into a Hollywood Action Film plot line from a Seagal movie.

lol apparently you don't read much history..... as someone pointed out events in the Romulan Empire mimic what happened with the Roman Empire (which since thats what they were based on is highly appropriate)
being these cover a year each it just makes it seem rushed but considering the distances involved makes sense.
Some of the best fiction ever read was based off events in world history

[eNDIE]

Well these events will eventualy drag the feds into conflict with the klingons and the gorn probably when the klingons turns their heads towards the weekened romulans.

[Camryboy1979]

When is Sisco coming back, he said he would return?

[da_firey007]

He returned in the past. LOL, Nah I doubt we will hear from dear old Capt'n Sisko again.

[Rac0r]

I'm a little disappointed. I was hoping they would stay true to the story laid out in the books. The way it is, it's yet another timeline. Well, it's a game, so the story probably won't matter all too much. Still with all those different timelines out there, it's getting ever harder to keep track of everything. In order to understand any of the events you'll always have to stop and think "In which ST universe am I right now ?". Is it a) the canon universe including novel continuations b) a mirror universe c) the universe of the new ST movie d) the STO universe.

Temporal mechanics give me a headache.

[Trelane]

How can Laas possibly meet with Odo when he has probably been long dead, killed by the Section 31 Shapeshifter virus likely not very long after linking with Odo on DS9 and Koralis 3.There were reasons Odo took so long to develop the virus' effectss but Lass would have likely started suffering the effects shortly after Kira helped him escape from DS9/meeting with Odo on Koralis 3.It would have been near impossible for Laas to have found out about Dr. Julian Bashir's cure as he now is a fugitive from Starfleet and likely would have kept himself well disguised and hidden from all solids during the short time he had to search for other "Infant" Changelings after last meeting with Odo on Koralis 3.

[SenshiBat]

Freedom when do we want it..
Now!
Emancipate the Unlawfully restricted or detained...
I would Retain a Holographic Lawyer [Jerry Spence]
File a Writ of Habeas Corpus.. For both and have a unified trial by jury defence
and a Military Tribunal As they were Both by definition of duty position Star Fleet Officers.
B4 through the Data memory files and the formerly known as EMH "Doctor" as the Chief Medical Officer for the Federation in the Delta Quadrant on board Voyager..

The B4 defence is more difficult as it is the indirect memories and not B4s own.. More like a dependant child then an fully independent individual..

For the "Doctor" the case law and presidents have been laid out in many different cases..
I Like to to use the "Wesley Crusher, Nano" Defence. This was a Captains ruling but under The duties of a captain Picard was acting as a judge and jury on the matter..":The ability to communicate independent of programming establishes senditants" Self awarness. and the ability to form self determination are rock beds of the Federation Charter.. to seek out new life forms..

[blackfx]

I'm not really good at remembering a lot of lore and I haven't read any Star Trek novels, but I have seen almost all the episodes, if not all.

What I want to say is, is that I read these story posts and I'm enjoying what you guys are going with this. I hope you keep posting more in depth and personal (as in character) story content for main plot characters and even those that just have an effect on the overrall plot.

Thanks for taking the time to release this stuff! :cool:

[JPJappic]

I'm not sure if it matters, but when you click on "The Path to 2409" on the side navigation on the main page, it is missing 2384.

[stumped978]

I see so many different time lines out there, being a fan of all of the novels that have been coming out. I have tried to keep them all seperate, but it's all very confusing and complicated....lol. I'm sure I'll get over it.

[stumped978]

Good thing your not ready the books...lol. You'd be just as confused as I am...LOL

[J.L.Picard]

Isn't Sela in Federation custudy??

If i remember correctly the Tal'shiar section she commanded was obliterated by the federation and she was captured and btw this is cannon since it is the story that leads to Nemesis

[fireraven]

Isn't Sela in Federation custudy??

If i remember correctly the Tal'shiar section she commanded was obliterated by the federation and she was captured and btw this is cannon since it is the story that leads to Nemesis

only reference I can find to what you mention is in the books which are not hard canon.
"In late 2375, Sela somehow re-gained her command, and led several warbirds to Sector 221-G and attacked the USS Independence. The ship was quickly destroyed by the warbirds, but many of the crew escaped via escape pods. Sela ordered the escape pods destroyed, and many were, before the USS Excalibur arrived and drove her ships away. (TNG - Double Helix novel: Double or Nothing)

When Sela was last seen in Double or Nothing she was in Starfleet custody and comatose. No explanation was given for her subsequent appearances in Armada and Death in Winter. "

http://startrek.wikia.com/wiki/Sela

[KlingonCommander1]

Anyways, when is the Star Trek Online game going to come out? I'm get very impatient and I can't seem to stop eating pie...

[E6ajc]

Please don't make androids available to players. Data was special and unique. At the very most, make an android only available to the most advanced ships only to a few players. Please.

[MajorD]

Wouldn't it make more sense for the Gorn to refuse the Klingon demand that they allow the Klingon prisons to kill themselves? That's the only reason the Klingons would want the Klingon prisons back anyway, so the prisoners can kill themselves to restore their, and their hoses', honor.

There's no reason to have shut off B-4, he's a huge retard but Picard would still consider him a person, and didn't Data say he was already working at full capacity but is just less advanced? So, there is noting to restore, any improvement would be an upgrade.
Please don't make androids available to players. Data was special and unique. At the very most, make an android only available to the most advanced ships only to a few players. Please.

You know, throughout The Next Generation, there was no indication that Data's android body was special, only ever the positronic brain was special and problematic. Holographic matrix brain androids should be completely possible, since holographic matrixs have been shown to be extremely stable.

[Drunk1n]

You know, throughout The Next Generation, there was no indication that Data's android body was special, only ever the positronic brain was special and problematic. Holographic matrix brain androids should be completely possible, since holographic matrixs have been shown to be extremely stable.

I always wondered why Star Trek never touched this subject... It after all is the most logical beyond the positronic.

[MajorD]

I always wondered why Star Trek never touched this subject... It after all is the most logical beyond the positronic.

I can't really tell why they never brought it up, I think the idea that holograms are holograms and not programs set in really fast, so no one ever thought differently on the writing staff. In universe, the only reason I can think of is that the equipment to run the holographic personality at interactive speeds would be too large to fit in an android head, and that the rest of an android body has to be dedicated to other systems. But that just barely strikes me as a reasonable explanation, considering Moriarty and his girlfriend were stored in a single cube only three inches square, and ran in a device about two laptops thick that could simulate an entire universe for them to explore. For one personality and a system that needs to interpret the universe, not dream it up too, I think the system would be a lot smaller. At worst it might be only a little bigger than a human brain, it's not like Star Trek is at a loss for large headed aliens.

[LordDave]

I can't really tell why they never brought it up, I think the idea that holograms are holograms and not programs set in really fast, so no one ever thought differently on the writing staff. In universe, the only reason I can think of is that the equipment to run the holographic personality at interactive speeds would be too large to fit in an android head, and that the rest of an android body has to be dedicated to other systems. But that just barely strikes me as a reasonable explanation, considering Moriarty and his girlfriend were stored in a single cube only three inches square, and ran in a device about two laptops thick that could simulate an entire universe for them to explore. For one personality and a system that needs to interpret the universe, not dream it up too, I think the system would be a lot smaller. At worst it might be only a little bigger than a human brain, it's not like Star Trek is at a loss for large headed aliens.

Why use an Android which takes many, many years to manufacture when you can slap in a holo-emitter and get the same job done?

Also, Starfleet isn't much in the way of playing God and making artificial life forms. The Doctor is an advanced program that resembles sentience so much so that he eventually grew beyond his programming and, as is going on now, is fighting for his right as a sentient being. I suspect Dr. Zimmerman is going to come down and say "He went here and cured me out of some need to save his father. That's a sentient being if I ever heard one."

[Drunk1n]

Why use an Android which takes many, many years to manufacture when you can slap in a holo-emitter and get the same job done?

Also, Starfleet isn't much in the way of playing God and making artificial life forms. The Doctor is an advanced program that resembles sentience so much so that he eventually grew beyond his programming and, as is going on now, is fighting for his right as a sentient being. I suspect Dr. Zimmerman is going to come down and say "He went here and cured me out of some need to save his father. That's a sentient being if I ever heard one."

Yeah Dr. Zimmerman Will be the one to save the day more then likely. Quite a bit more moaning and gumbling, but save the day none the less.

Star trek may not like to create life, but they all want to master the Android, so making one with a Holographic brain just makes sense. The problem with that might be it is unable to operate the rest of the body holographically.

[Sevenblade]

I'm not sure if it matters, but when you click on "The Path to 2409" on the side navigation on the main page, it is missing 2384.

I would also like to point this out. Through this thread, I can easily view the 2384 update, but when I click on the Path to 2409 category on the main navigator on the home page, it only lists the years 2379-2383. I'm assuming this is just an small oversight by Cryptic, and I hope someone catches this and links 2384 into the sequence we have so far. Thanks.

[critch]

Gonna be interesting to see where all these threads go. Hope that they come up quickly, they'll be a blast to read back to back..to back to back and so on.

[robgomm]

Cryptic you're doing a great job of advancing the Star Trek timeline. I'd selfishly like to know though what Picard is up to during this time? No mention of him so far in your timeline. Presumably he is waiting for the Enterprise to be repaired?

Also someone said earlier that it was shame that B4 didn't have all of Datas memories. But he did! Data downloaded them into B4 during Nemisis.

[MajorD]

Why use an Android which takes many, many years to manufacture when you can slap in a holo-emitter and get the same job done?

Also, Starfleet isn't much in the way of playing God and making artificial life forms. The Doctor is an advanced program that resembles sentience so much so that he eventually grew beyond his programming and, as is going on now, is fighting for his right as a sentient being. I suspect Dr. Zimmerman is going to come down and say "He went here and cured me out of some need to save his father. That's a sentient being if I ever heard one."

Since when has it taken years? And why would it have to be Starfleet to build them? Data made his own Soong type android in an episode of TNG, it took days. The only hard part was the brain, because of the positronic network's innate instability when initially forming. It crashed a few days after a personality started to form. Starfleet didn't build data, and Data's project, I think she was called Lal after she chose a sex, was Data's own side project. You're also ignoring that the Doctor's mobile emitter is from the 29th century, that's about 400 years more advanced than anything the Federation has. Any modern Starfleet mobile emitter should be the size of a large briefcase, at the very best. Realistically, it should be much larger, probably the size of what an android would be anyway.

For the Doctor's rights, all that needs to be done is propose a trial like Data's, cite Data's case and the situation with the Exo-Comps and Wesley's nanites, then case closed. Then the case can be retried in civilian court, that one will be as hard as Data's case, but it can cite the same evidence, it might be tougher, though.

[Silhouette]

Cryptic you're doing a great job of advancing the Star Trek timeline. I'd selfishly like to know though what Picard is up to during this time? No mention of him so far in your timeline. Presumably he is waiting for the Enterprise to be repaired?

Also someone said earlier that it was shame that B4 didn't have all of Datas memories. But he did! Data downloaded them into B4 during Nemisis.

I agree, I too would like to know what is up with Capt Picard. Although he isnt getting any younger, maybe they will just put him out to pasture. Which would be a waste.

Sil:cool:

[Exxon]

Happy New Year! Thanks for the story update :)

This is more interesting developments.

It would be very cool of the Soong Institute would be able to reactivate B-4 and improve his neural processes. If only they could download all of Data's memories into B-4 but unfortunately Data's memory banks were most likely lost in the explosion. :( It is interesting though, to think of B-4 operating within established parameters, and behaving like a Season 1 Data, full of curiosity and wonder at humanity.

The brief portion regarding the Klingon situation is also very interesting. It appears that the Gorn may meet the Klingon Defense Force in war. This may mean that the Gorn will be conquered then incorporated rather than peaceably recruited. Then again, will it play out that they fight each other for a while then in the process declare peace and team up? Sometimes the person you fight with initially turns out to be a good friend in the long run.

When will it be coming out though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fencer8]

Sela did the killing.

[SenshiBat]

Tal'aura killed herself by accepting ouslanders assistance

IT showed weakness as the Great Leader.. the Dux must solve all the Empires Problems

and resorting to more "creative" means to find jobs these days.as a half Rihannsu.. Sela did

find ways such as posioning stabbing.. smothering with gasses that slowly [deleted state secret]

[phoenix123]

they should make this a conflict in the storyline

[Starship01]

The stories are great can't wait until the next one comes out. Fantastic ;)

Captain Boyle

[phoenix123]

I like the stories also, they have taken so long i wonder if the next will be two years at a time.

[big.nick54]

I am anxious to see what they come up with about B4, I am hopeful to see them develop around the Dr. Soong of the Enterprise series; maybe his later work??? Maybe B4 could be the ispiration for Data and Lore which are the work of Nooien Soong from the next Generation... Maybe even a more sinster purpose for B4 intended??? Just thinking...

[HyorD]

How can Laas possibly meet with Odo when he has probably been long dead, killed by the Section 31 Shapeshifter virus likely not very long after linking with Odo on DS9 and Koralis 3.There were reasons Odo took so long to develop the virus' effectss but Lass would have likely started suffering the effects shortly after Kira helped him escape from DS9/meeting with Odo on Koralis 3.It would have been near impossible for Laas to have found out about Dr. Julian Bashir's cure as he now is a fugitive from Starfleet and likely would have kept himself well disguised and hidden from all solids during the short time he had to search for other "Infant" Changelings after last meeting with Odo on Koralis 3.I must agree with this; although probably unintended, I always viewed Laas' fate as a great tragedy, beautiful in a way.
Of course, with Changelings, there's always this possibility (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qKcJF4fOPs) ;)

[phoenix123]

They ae way overdue for another date update

[trekfreak]

Why haven't you posted any new updates lately?

[phoenix123]

Why haven't you posted any new updates lately?

i dont post the updates

[ivan50265]

I'm interested to see what the Romula Empire will look like at the en of this conflict to give us an idea of what th expansion will be like.

[Gimmick]

I know I normally don't post here, often, but I've just read all of the Path to 2409 entries up to this point, and I have to say I am extraordinarily impressed. I've never heard of any MMORPG dev crew that actually cared about the history of the game. Only two questions...

1) Is the history that's being written prior to game release going to have an effect on the overall game, such as continuations to various news events from the Path...?

2) Is Cryptic using anything from the previous Star Trek dice and paper role-playing games, whether by FASA, Decipher, Last Unicorn, etc.?

[Nelson]

I would like to say I am VERY happy with all the updates you all give us, I would just wish to see more update to the timeline, I would like to restate that I am very happy with all the info you all give us, but please update the PATH story.....Thank You Nelson

[phoenix123]

I would like to say I am VERY happy with all the updates you all give us, I would just wish to see more update to the timeline, I would like to restate that I am very happy with all the info you all give us, but please update the PATH story.....Thank You Nelson

Agreed, I wish they would update the timeline. Im so tired of waiting for a update.

[Gimmick]

You realize there's an update every 3 to 5 weeks, on average, right? That's pretty good, considering what they're building. And, if they have 25 more entries to develop before release, or less, then they're probably doing pretty damn good, don't you think? I'd love to see the next part of the history, too, but I have to say it seems a bit excessive to be complaining about it.

[phoenix123]

You realize there's an update every 3 to 5 weeks, on average, right? That's pretty good, considering what they're building. And, if they have 25 more entries to develop before release, or less, then they're probably doing pretty damn good, don't you think? I'd love to see the next part of the history, too, but I have to say it seems a bit excessive to be complaining about it.

If you hadn't noticed, its been 5 weeks.

[Gimmick]

Okay, so they're a little behind, relax. What if they're taking care of something within the game to make it better than it was and it's requiring all of their resources to do so?

[mrhomely]

So they moved B4 to the Soong Institution huh? Shame. Hope they bring him back online soon. I did enjoy his part. Although I must say that I dont think that Sela should have been made Commander of the Fleet. Never really did like the way she ran things. It would also be nice to see what Wesley brings to the story. I was just looking on wikipedia and appearently he rejoined Starfleet and made it to Lt. Jr. Grade in Star Trek: Nemesis. What will happen to Wesley?

I aways thought Wesley was kind of annoying!! I guess with the traveler stuff it would be at least nice to see what really happened to him and what he did with the traveler. I also am glad to see the update on B4 i hope with all of Datas memories that we can see some form of Data returning.

[Gimmick]

Everyone thought Wesley was annoying, including me to a limited extent. Still, I'm curious, as well.

[CherryTerri]

In Nemesis, Data downloads all of his memories to B-4 prior to his death on the Scimitar. The memories didn't take right away, but seemed to be starting to at the end of the movie when B-4 was humming Irving Berlin's "Blue Skies", which Data had sang at Troi and Riker's wedding.

I like where the Klingon/Gorn situation is going. The Klingons conquering the Gorn seems like a logical move, they only needed something to get the ball rolling, and it sounds like this attack might be it.

Great timeline update! I'm loving every bit of it! Thank you!

Why must it be conquering?

I'm waiting to see how this goes first before making more of a background (sorry no Klingon is bossing ME around)

[CherryTerri]

Thanks for the excellent sum-up, KOS.

We're looking to novels and other soft canon resources for inspiration, but we aren't using them as absolutes. Some things from the soft canon we will use, other things we will disregard, and still other things we will change to create the game world of STO.

Kestrel ...

If you need some Gorn help PLEASE come check out my forums:

http://theblackcrest.forumotion.net/the-gorn-f2/

I took a lot of time to piece together the information known about the Gorn through all types of avenues. Hope it helps.

[CherryTerri]

I would suggest that they use the 'alternate Time-line' story line, mentioning some alteration that nudges STO Time-Lime away from the DESTINY TRILOGY Time line.

Alternate Time Lines is an iconic aspect of Star Trek (Alternate Universe, Time Travel Episodes, Temporal War, etc), and as such it is a good device to use, instead of just 'changing fiction and ignoring Lore Conflicts'.

I understand the whole 'soft-canon' point of view, I just do not think it should be abused. Why clash, when you can simply side-step. Clashes should be the last resort, not the first. Stick with the proper dates and basic events, and write in some fictional reason why things are different in STO Fiction, when clashes are unavoidable -- ie why the Borg exist in STO, but not after the events of some soft canon.

The last MMO that decided to pick and choose the Canon, and make gross changes 'just because they could' was SWG, and look how wonderful that game turned out.

Another problem with what you say is this ...

Not all writers of books and all looked at what other people wrote, so they can have discrepancies in book series and comics. So that can cause a problem for Cryptic to pull one over the other for information.

I'm no expert (I stopped watching DS9 at Dom War, and Voy when Kes left) so I admit so much I don't know.

[Pelwrath]

I'm interested to see what the Romula Empire will look like at the en of this conflict to give us an idea of what th expansion will be like.


The empire will look like something other than it realy is. We were feared before all this and now all you people fear is that this 'civil war', as you call it, will affect you. Your fear is misplaced, this is an internal political struggle, so please remember of few things.
First, if we desired to affect you we would. Second, Praetor can be earned by the low as well as claimed by the high. Third, what makes you think that unification is something that would affect us that much? Fourth, though understandable, using your cultural, socialogical references to explain Romulan ways is......futile. Fith, See ya!

[phoenix123]

I wonder if the ST Nemisis movie is going to eventually be part of these updates

[Seraphs]

I wonder if the ST Nemisis movie is going to eventually be part of these updates

Would you want it to be?

[phoenix123]

Would you want it to be?

Not in detail, just a mention or if it will even be a big mention

[Seraphs]

Not in detail, just a mention or if it will even be a big mention

If there is a Romulan vs Federation war element in this game suppose it would make sense to have it there. It was a powerful weapon of war alright. (The Scimitar that is)

[BlackWolf]

If there is a Romulan vs Federation war element in this game suppose it would make sense to have it there. It was a powerful weapon of war alright. (The Scimitar that is)

The Scmitar had its ups and downs plus who does not say that the Romulan Empire did not build a better ship in all those years? A lot can change in that period of time. As you can see is that the Empire split up.....different motions and different results

[Seraphs]

The Scmitar had its ups and downs plus who does not say that the Romulan Empire did not build a better ship in all those years? A lot can change in that period of time. As you can see is that the Empire split up.....different motions and different results

Who knows, very little is known of what happens in the Romulan Empire.

[Pelwrath]

Who knows, very little is known of what happens in the Romulan Empire.

"How true and the problem with the Scimitar is it showed that a ship built arround a weapon is not very versital, take stoo much power, reguardless of the effectiveness of the weapon. It couldn't be a front line weapon as it would attaract all the attention. We of the Tal Shiar feel that medium to large sized vessals are the best, easier to fund, build, modify and dsiguise.

[steveorange]

I haven't seen a continuation of this story in a while. Are you planning on continuing it?

Steve

[CherryTerri]

I haven't seen a continuation of this story in a while. Are you planning on continuing it?

Steve

Take a breath ... ahhh

They try to get one out every few weeks but has been hectic I guess lately. Peruse the rest of the boards in the meantime!

[phoenix123]

I am so tired of waiting for another update

[CherryTerri]

I am so tired of waiting for another update

I'm tired of my mom feeding me lima beans. Or kidney beans.

They taste like cardboard. I don't care if you try to mix them with other vegetables or put them in chili.

And they way they look .. scary stuff.

I'm just as anxious as others are, but I'm not stomping my feet demanding a new post NOW!

Especially since they made the pass about the Klingon/Gorn conflict. But I think it makes it all more worth the wait.

[ronaldheld]

Are there supposed to be periodic releases, or just sporatically?

[CherryTerri]

Are there supposed to be periodic releases, or just sporatically?

I believe it was supposed to have been periodic, maybe one every 2 weeks or something ... but looks like that went out the window with whatever is going on over there.

[phoenix123]

Well, the updates seem to be held every 3-4 weeks but it has been nearly 6 weeks

[ronaldheld]

So it is sporatic?

[loyaltrekie]

So it is sporatic?

I think the original plan had a time line on when they wanted to, but as with all things in the game industry thing got shaken up at the studio and they put it on the back burner. Personally I think Cryptic needs to follow suit with what TOR is doing, weekly updates in any form is sex IMO. Bioware is getting it right with the appropriate "content drip" they are providing.

[phoenix123]

So it is sporatic?

I dont think they have a set release scedule, but it has been like this since the beginning

[SenshiBat]

pace of Developments to perhaps add some of the contest content would be a nice surprise..

It would depend on the author schedule for scripting important content in STO if that's how the team task are
broken down .

Re-writes editor review process for continuity?

Simple writers block.. or alot of irons in the fire .

A big construction site calander on wall and a story board of in-game scripting lead in story arc.. a busy place they must have.

[steveorange]

I was just wondering where there will be more additions to this story?

Steve

[Snrcbpco]

What about this: Since Data downloaded his entire memory into B4...couldn't that kinda take over B4...making him turn into a less sophisticated Data?

[CJSmith411]

I've only recently officially joined the site and I do like the concept of this story line that moves in a forward direction. Frankly, I am disappointed with Paramount's choices to reboot both the TV series (ST:ENT) and the movies (upcoming ST:XI).
That being said, I for one am more interested in the historical story context than I am a bunch of still screen shots. Graphics are a wonderful thing, but ultimately won't hold my interest for very long.

Let me be clear, I don't mean to complain, or whine. I simply trust that the powers that be might take this as encouragement.

Special Agent CJ Smith, SFIC

[Nador_Ekoor]

organizing timeline together here...

[Nador_Ekoor]

organizing timeline together here...