Ablative generators

[Colt556]

I was just watching the final episode of Voyager and I was wondering if the ablative generators will be in STO. In the alternate timeline they had the armor by 2404, but considering the federation got hold of it like 30 years sooner I'd imagine it'd be a pretty good piece of equipment by STO's time.

I personally think it'd make a good "high end" defensive measure for a ship. And besides, it'd be cool to see that armor fold over your sovereign right before you go into combat lol.

[Freejack]

I was just watching the final episode of Voyager and I was wondering if the ablative generators will be in STO. In the alternate timeline they had the armor by 2404, but considering the federation got hold of it like 30 years sooner I'd imagine it'd be a pretty good piece of equipment by STO's time.

I personally think it'd make a good "high end" defensive measure for a ship. And besides, it'd be cool to see that armor fold over your sovereign right before you go into combat lol.

Something like this (http://www.startrekonline.com/node/137)?

Defensive Systems:
Ablative Tetraburnium Alloy Hull
Regenerative Shielding
:cool:

Merry Christmas!

[Colt556]

Something like this (http://www.startrekonline.com/node/137)?

Defensive Systems:
Ablative Tetraburnium Alloy Hull
Regenerative Shielding
:cool:

Merry Christmas!

While that's awesome, it's not what I was talking about. An ablative armor hull isn't the same as ablative generators. If you watch the Voyager episode Endgame you'll see what I'm talking about. The generators encased the entire ship in thick armor that was absurdly durable.

[MerakBashee]

First temporal directive? Admiral Janeway's action was a direct violation of it. There's no explanation onto how the Federation acted towards that, so I guess for now we're left to wonder.

[Trekkie]

I think that ablative technology might be a good reward for particularly difficult missions as long as it was balanced and didn't give players with ablative technology too much of an advantage.

[Colt556]

I think that ablative technology might be a good reward for particularly difficult missions as long as it was balanced and didn't give players with ablative technology too much of an advantage.

I agree, but from what I know of it, once the armor was deployed you couldn't use phasers. At most you could use torpedos because the armor around the torpedo launchers retracted. So in a fight it really wouldn't help much if you were trying to beat your opponent, but if you're the kinda player who'd rather be invulnerable then an all powerfull killing machine, the ablative generator would be for you.

I do think it should be a REALLY high end piece of tech though. In classic MMO terms, a lvl 90 item. But it would be a good 'end game' reward.

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

First temporal directive? Admiral Janeway's action was a direct violation of it. There's no explanation onto how the Federation acted towards that, so I guess for now we're left to wonder.




Admiral Janeway acted to save her Crew,

She didnt do anything other than get her crew home a little quicker and as she had already deveolped the technology but just got it home a few years later she didnt really mess the time line to much from what would of changed anyway.

And your forgetting that the technology was also assimalted by the borg !!!

So the Adaptive plating hull had to be redesigned and imporved anyway which has gave us these adaptive generators.

I wont have a bad word said about Janeway tho she is and will always be the greatest Captain in all of Star Trek and i love Voyager so dam much because of her. :)

[phifur]

I agree, but from what I know of it, once the armor was deployed you couldn't use phasers. At most you could use torpedos because the armor around the torpedo launchers retracted. So in a fight it really wouldn't help much if you were trying to beat your opponent, but if you're the kinda player who'd rather be invulnerable then an all powerfull killing machine, the ablative generator would be for you.

I do think it should be a REALLY high end piece of tech though. In classic MMO terms, a lvl 90 item. But it would be a good 'end game' reward.

Hmm good point I am one of the these people that going to build my ship more with defense in mind then killing power. I would love to have a ablative genrator. That would be a big help to my playing style.

[OrabIbo]

Having the armor in game is one thing, I'm curious how they will animate it to represent it in game. Looked awesome on the show! but how do you make that look good in a game, without taking hours to render like it does on the show ;)

I'm thinking that a good way to represent it is. Have a separate model that attaches to the ship. It is divided into 3-4 pieces and pops/fades into appearance on the ship in stages 3-4 as it's deployed. When it takes damage the armor disappears slowly until depleted. Then the hull starts to actually take damage.

Simpiler approach is to just have the ship show the armor on it all the time, and calculate the damage difference for having it. Then show normal damage happening to the ship.

It would be cool if it could be showed deploying, but I think that may be to far out of the game engines resources or time/effort to develop.

[THORN74]

I agree, but from what I know of it, once the armor was deployed you couldn't use phasers. At most you could use torpedos because the armor around the torpedo launchers retracted. So in a fight it really wouldn't help much if you were trying to beat your opponent, but if you're the kinda player who'd rather be invulnerable then an all powerfull killing machine, the ablative generator would be for you.

I do think it should be a REALLY high end piece of tech though. In classic MMO terms, a lvl 90 item. But it would be a good 'end game' reward.

if u look at the armor over the phaser strips on voyager they were retractable also, allowing for phaser firing. look at some stills of the armored voyager from the last episode.

[Dracoprimus]

if it does end up in the game, I think everyone agrees it would be end game. But, I doubt it would end up in the game anytime near release, sounds like something to add in in a later update. They can't put all the great ideas in right away, they have to save some good stuff for expansions, or updates.
Also, you want to make sure the basics are working solidly, even after release there will be some bugs still showing up, so that'll be worked on first.

[Michell]

the point he is making is that this is 30 years after the nem. movie and since janeway came back with this tech...it should be able to be used by anyone. the fact that it looks overpowering is because the tech was 30 or more years advanced but i wouldn't count on it still being over powered.....we will be playing 30 years into the future and something tells me the klingons have the specs on that tech.

[Colt556]

the point he is making is that this is 30 years after the nem. movie and since janeway came back with this tech...it should be able to be used by anyone. the fact that it looks overpowering is because the tech was 30 or more years advanced but i wouldn't count on it still being over powered.....we will be playing 30 years into the future and something tells me the klingons have the specs on that tech.

Well even for it's time (2403 or whenever) the armor was still INCREDIBLY powerfull. I mean a period vorcha class cruiser couldn't even dent Janeways runabout with the armor deployed. So to be canonly accurate, the armor would be some of the most overpowered defenses in the game.

if u look at the armor over the phaser strips on voyager they were retractable also, allowing for phaser firing. look at some stills of the armored voyager from the last episode.

Well, ALL the armor is retractable, as evident by the fact it has to be deployed. But I was readin on memoy alpha (Not sure how accurate it is, but eh) that the only places the armor could retract, without retracting all the armor, was over the torpedo tubes. I mean maybe they're wrong, and voyager just didn't bother uncovering their phaser banks since they weren't upgraded. But really, you could just do it that way for balance sake. I mean, to have the armor, and shields (You'd still have shields even after your armor is destroyed) AND all your weapons? I'd much rather see you limited to torpedos only, if that.

[MerakBashee]

Admiral Janeway acted to save her Crew,

She didnt do anything other than get her crew home a little quicker and as she had already deveolped the technology but just got it home a few years later she didnt really mess the time line to much from what would of changed anyway.

And your forgetting that the technology was also assimalted by the borg !!!

So the Adaptive plating hull had to be redesigned and imporved anyway which has gave us these adaptive generators.

I wont have a bad word said about Janeway tho she is and will always be the greatest Captain in all of Star Trek and i love Voyager so dam much because of her. :)

Your love for Janeway is noted, but I believe that was rather unecessary, specially that last line. Made it sound like you took my commentary in a rather personal way.

[Michell]

ahhh but the time line has changed....who knows what this time line has in store for the feds. there may be a weakness the klingons can attack....say Chroniton phase torpedoes maybe...they did make the first time worm hole that we know of.