Starfleet – The NX-91001

[nhamlett]

A starship designed to carry Federation influence throughout the Alpha Quadrant and beyond, the NX-91001 is one of the first multi-role starship designs since the Sovereign class was commissioned in the early 2370s. Able to function as a deep-space explorer with extensive sensors and laboratory facilities for scientific research, the NX-91001 also is outfitted as a heavy cruiser armed with some of the latest in Starfleet weapons technology for deployment in hostile areas.

Happy Holidays!

Read more! (http://www.startrekonline.com/ships/nx91001)

[cv_coco]

We thank you for our present!! :D

Nice looking ship worthy of a Sovereign replacement. Look forward to seeing it in game!

[Varrangian]

I love you! Thanks!

[Apolladan]

A starship designed to carry Federation influence throughout the Alpha Quadrant and beyond, the NX-91001 is one of the first multi-role starship designs since the Sovereign class was commissioned in the early 2370s. Able to function as a deep-space explorer with extensive sensors and laboratory facilities for scientific research, the NX-91001 also is outfitted as a heavy cruiser armed with some of the latest in Starfleet weapons technology for deployment in hostile areas.

Happy Holidays!

Read more! (http://www.startrekonline.com/ships/nx91001)

Amazing. This is the first in-game info we have.

[hoggj]

A very impressive and intresting star ship

[Tmann26]

AWE
















SOME!!!

Absolutely phenomenal. I cannot wait to get my hands on one of those. ;)

I am eager to see what advancements the Klingons, Cardasians, Romulans, and everyone else in the Milky Way have come up with.

[brenatevi]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I can't wait for the rest of the ships we'll be flying.

[Waxco]

Cool, Sweet, Etx. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut.... i want a Klingon ship!!!

[Nasedo]

OMG!!!!!!! thats so freakin cool... that bad boy sounds like StarFleets Flag Ship!!!

THANK YOU SOO MUCH!! we need week updates like this to keep me from going crazy!!!

Back to watching DS9 (watch every single Star Trek episode in order starting with Enterprise pilot)

Have a happy X-mas!

[Feadother]

I can say I am impressed. I cannot wait to see this ship in action. I also cannot wait to see more info on other ships.

[USS_Parallax]

No class name yet? I'm confused. :P

[Starshelle]

I'm not sure if this was ever made into "offical" canon, but usually the name of a new type of ship becomes the "class" name for any other ships that follow. For example the U.S.S Defiant that we saw on DS9 was the first ship of that type, and the other ships that were made after it in that class were Defiant class ship. The U.S.S Constellation was the first Constellation type ship made and the famous U.S.S Enterprise followed at some point after that.

Anyway, if Cryptic is following that model we won't know the class name until whenever they chose to reveal the ship's name. Personally, I think we're long overdue for an Enterprise class of ships! :)

[JSM3050]

W00tness!! I don't much care for the look of the think, specifically the lack of an elevated saucer section, but I imagine I can come to respect it's awesome firepower (no doubt including some of Janeway's anti-Borg transphasic weaponry seen in End Game).

No class name yet? I'm confused. :P
Considering the NX registration, it suggests a prototype. A final class name may not have been reached yet. ((Yes, the Defiant was also an NX but the Excelsior was an NCC which leads me to believe that NX denotes prototype and not necessarily the first ship in a finalized design.))

[marscentral]

Oh no, I didn't get you guys a present!

Thanks guys. Perhaps this is the Stargazer-A mentioned in the updates?

[marscentral]

Thanks guys. Perhaps this is the Stargazer-A mentioned in the updates?

Or perhaps not as that was commissioned in 2381 and this one is 2409.

[PattonJ007]

Awesome ... keep it coming

[JeanNYGUARD]

Thanks for The Great Christmas Present, Cryptic.

We really appreciate it :) Thank you and Merry Christmas

[Elanel]

Cool ship. Looks like the one from the teaser trailer. Thanks for the specs :)

[mendal]

I love this post by the devs. Thanks for giving us this glimpse into exciting details of the game. Wish you productive 2009. Good job so far.

[Dominion1971]

Thanks for the Update...

I dont mean to be a Scrooge here or anything but.. seriously... This ship, while lovely, just looks to me like a rehashed Soverign Class with a Beam linking the two Warp Nacelles and what looks to be a weapons pod or sensor pod.. Nothing to terribly spectacular really.. but nice..

I dono.. Just me.. anyways.. have a Happy... meh... :(

[Mlgarth81]

Wow what a ship, thx for being so details ;)

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

Aw a massive Thank you goes out to the team and especially Nicole for giving up some of her time on Christmas day to give us this exciting news :)

I actully logged in last night as it struck christmas in the hope that there might be something Juicy to get our teeth into and this is definatly that today.

I truly Hope all the Team and every member of the site has a Very Merry Christmas today where ever you are and in what ever qaudrant :)

And i have spoken over the phone to a few members of our Fleet

The United Federation Fleet and there wanting to get there hands on this ship as soon as they can haha :o)

Thanks again,

Definatly not a disapointment infact this is given us more to discuss and talk about and hype up the possibilities for before the game comes out on our screens.

Thanks

Admiral-Darren-Wright :D

NX-91001
Specifications

Dimensions:
Overall Length: 692 meters
Overall Draft: 92 meters
Overall Beam: 253 meters
Displacement: 3,200,000 metric tons
Propulsion Systems:
Class 10 Warp Drive
Hyper Impulse Drive
Defensive Systems:
Ablative Tetraburnium Alloy Hull
Regenerative Shielding
Embarked Craft (Typical):
3 Shuttle Bays
10 Shuttlecraft (various classes)
10 Shuttlepods (various classes)
Velocity:
Cruising: Warp Factor 8
Maximum: Warp Factor 9.985
Computer Systems:
Holoemitter Trans-Deck Array System
Holographic Consoles and Astrometric Laboratories
Bioneural Circuitry
Offensive Systems:
16 Type XIV Phaser Arrays
4 Forward and 4 Aft Torpedo Launchers (Payloads Classified)
Additional Weapons Classified


mmm we want haha

[starfleetborg]

oph theres my woman, I knew she was in the works!
thanks for the ship info.

[Alekks]

We had some folks in our fleet discussing the design style of the new starships. Our consensus came down to multi-role and/or modular design for the 25th century starships, at least for the Federation. It looks as though the NX-91001 fits the multi-role definition very well.

And looking at the offensive/defensive inventory, it's apparent she's a Tiger.

Thank you for shedding some light on the one of the first starships of the trailer from the Vegas convention that sparked the most discussion within our fleet. Now we know more about it.

As another poster said, Merry Christmas and here's hoping for a very productive and satisfying New Year.

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I love this post by the devs. Thanks for giving us this glimpse into exciting details of the game. Wish you productive 2009. Good job so far.



I second that !!

Great job so far and i didnt think i could get any more excited about this game but i was wrong lol

I am so looking forward to it i may even have to take a couple of days off work when we get the release date :p

Knowing that we will all start off as a Commander in a small ship then through missions and trianing work our way up to captain and then a series of ships, Im defiantly wandering How long it may take us to get to the NX-91001 :)

I think there might be a few Klingons members choking on there own bowl of Sqealching Gak and thinking it may be a good day to die just this time without saying it as they think about there up and coming battles ;)

[k.mpok]

Fellow Klingons unit.

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[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I just downloaded the NX-91001 Wallpaper (including Galaxy Class refit) that has been added also by STO

Thank you again :O)

[Jomir]

This ship, while lovely, just looks to me like a rehashed Soverign Class with a Beam linking the two Warp Nacelles and what looks to be a weapons pod or sensor pod..
Yeah, I thought exactly the same. Nice to have some information and the idea of a new multi-role starship is great and the specifications sound well. But it looks like a slight modification of the original Sovereign Class. I would have really preferred a new design!

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

Yeah, I thought exactly the same. Nice to have some information and the idea of a new multi-role starship is great and the specifications sound well. But it looks like a slight modification of the original Sovereign Class. I would have really preferred a new design!

I can understand what people mean and i can see that a new class of ship may be cool and that the NX-91001 may be a Soveriegn refit in disguise but the ship is over 680 metres long so this is going to be the if not one of the Big main Combat vessels in the Game (for the federation) and the details that weve been given are very new and very good to get our hands on and STO in many ways cant make everyone happy at once since theres so much they dont want to release about the game yet.

As soon as they release pictures of the new Klingon Vessel (which has been reported that there creating now by the way) then people will be asking for the pictures of the new Romulan Vessel and then people will be wanting pictures of the Borg and then People will be wanting planetry landing slides and then people will be wanting other alien vessels and trade ships and some pictures of possible player built star bases (pos) and so on... so they cant release all that

In many ways if you give a mouse a piece of cheese it will want a bowl of milk so them giving this is possibly the safest way of them to show us anything and they didnt really have to show us anything so im very gratefull and i am huge Voyager fan and i have always wanted to get my self an Intrepid, But me and a few members of our fleet are now thinking about having the NX-91001 ...we shall see.

Nx-91001 = Eats Borg Spheres for Breakfast

[Sir_Cedric]

1st I love the info on the federation ship, can't wait to command one. :D

But I think it's only fair to show the specs on a Klingon ship, that is about equal to the NX-91001 in power.

[Jonathan_Talon]

Thanks for the awesome present! Now I can go to bed and dream about that ship.

[Silverspar]

W00tness!! I don't much care for the look of the think, specifically the lack of an elevated saucer section, but I imagine I can come to respect it's awesome firepower (no doubt including some of Janeway's anti-Borg transphasic weaponry seen in End Game).


Considering the NX registration, it suggests a prototype. A final class name may not have been reached yet. ((Yes, the Defiant was also an NX but the Excelsior was an NCC which leads me to believe that NX denotes prototype and not necessarily the first ship in a finalized design.))

Excelsior was NX-2000 in Star Trek III. Was not made NCC until later, and didn't se NCC until Star Trek VI. The Defiant was also an NX, but promoted to NCC after the class was considered ship-shape.

[Dext]

this is nice :)

[The_Padre]

Excelsior was NX-2000 in Star Trek III. Was not made NCC until later, and didn't se NCC until Star Trek VI. The Defiant was also an NX, but promoted to NCC after the class was considered ship-shape.

Well the original Defiant-class ship never really did get changed from NX to NCC as it was destroyed by the Breen, the second Defiant-class ship that was given the name Defiant was originally the USS São Paulo.

[Duckdee]

Now, which of my characters gets this ship..? :)

[Mystica.Shadowheart]

Could it be that the ship designation NX-91001 is hinting to us a possible release date---01.10.2009

October seems a realistic release date as for the info we have right now.....

Well probably is just the spiked eggnog talking ;) Happy hollidays again and thx for the ship! :D

[Kinneas]

Merry X-Mas, Cryptic/Atari

Thank you.

[DeaconX]

Pretty damn sexy ship... :)

[LordYaro]

Could it be that the ship designation NX-91001 is hinting to us a possible release date---01.10.2009

October seems a realistic release date as for the info we have right now.....

Well probably is just the spiked eggnog talking ;) Happy hollidays again and thx for the ship! :D

Yes, I think they are. But it is mere speculation since we do not have confirmation. I would not put it past them to do that though.

[IanD967]

heh i love the fact you replaced the old Enterprise-E now on the main page :D

im guessing alot of Sovereign fans are going to be very pleased with the fact they havent been seeing their ship since i believe they dont like that nacelle thingy

well it sounds like one hell of a fearsome ship! wouldent like to be a Klingon going against THAT haha :D

[Habadon]

I can't wait!!!!

[onesoul1982]

All I can say is wow

I got to work this morning at 7 am and logged on to the page here and drooled when I read about the ship.

I'm very pleased to see a multi-role vessel, which means I'm able to fulfill my passion of exploring,while also being able to defend myself in a firefight.

I also read about the regenerative/adaptive shielding. Very cool.

"The starship features an ablative tetraburnium alloy hull, which allows it to withstand greater amounts of heat and pressure than any previous design, and regenerative shields on the NX-91001 can adapt to enemy weapons fire during a battle."


Hawt

Thank you so much Cryptic and the Dev's and happy Holidays!

[Gen00b]

Oohhh sweet :D

[USS_Parallax]

If it's not a refit it's basically a Sovereign Mock II or Type II or something. Obviously based on the original design but only based. I mean it's roughly the same size and dimensions. I don't really mind. I'd actually hope we'd see a few more type IIs. A modernized Oberth anyone?

[Davies82]

A very nice christmas present indeed.
Really enjoyed reading the ship information and specs.
Want to wish everyone on the forum a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Hope we got more ship specs in the near future.

[Mystica.Shadowheart]

If it's not a refit it's basically a Sovereign Mock II or Type II or something. Obviously based on the original design but only based. I mean it's roughly the same size and dimensions. I don't really mind. I'd actually hope we'd see a few more type IIs. A modernized Oberth anyone?

The replacement for the Oberth is actually the Nova Class...in any case i'd like an Oberth Mark II

[k.mpok]

Way is there not more in outrage about this. :(

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hehe we demand Klingon ship pics.

[hinaito]

That is a gorgeous ship! I can't wait to fly it! AWESOME JOB, CRYPTIC! YOU ROCK! AND MERRY, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU, TOO! ^ ^

[jayrelo]

okay.

kinda cool.

[marscentral]

Perhaps the next present could be a little video of it in action....

[ParkerHayden]

Merry Christmas indeed.

Ho ho ho!

[Arachnidus]

That thing's a beast. Can't wait to see what other ships will be revealed. Good job Awen.

[Beladan]

Thanks so much for our Christmas present!

[curtst]

Awesome thank you Cryptic! I can't wait to command that vessel. Adaptive shields sounds great. Looks like the Federation is learning from the Borg Collective after all.

The most interesting part of that read to me though is the engines. How it's warp core helps reduce how often the dilithium crystals need to be changed. Does this mean we will have to seek out sources for dilithium to replace what we have already? Can we carry some in storage so if we are out exploring and can't find a planet that has it?

Thanks again Cryptic.

[JJung]

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm saving my vacation days for release, baby! Woot!!

[Vicelance]

Awesome ship, going to have to get my hands on one of those at some point. Now heres the question will this be a ship we need a guild to help construct?

[Angelphoenix12]

very cool ship :) hope its the 1st of many new ships :D merry xmas all :)

[curtst]

Considering the NX registration, it suggests a prototype. A final class name may not have been reached yet. ((Yes, the Defiant was also an NX but the Excelsior was an NCC which leads me to believe that NX denotes prototype and not necessarily the first ship in a finalized design.))

If you watch Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock, you will see that the Excelsior originally started off as a NX. NX-2000. The Excelsior was a prototype for starfleets transwarp engine, which Scotty sabotaged by removing a few nuts and bolts. Despite such a simple sabotage the ships computer never alerted them, starfleet engineering couldn't figure it out why it didn't work, and they just gave up on the idea of transwarp engines.

[jayrelo]

No class name yet? I'm confused. :P

this.

:confused:

[bloodmoon2004]

Oh very nice , what a great present

[nhamlett]

I'm glad that you guys like the ship! A very Merry Christmas to you and I hope that you all have a safe and happy Holiday!

[onesoul1982]

I'm glad that you guys like the ship! A very Merry Christmas to you and I hope that you all have a safe and happy Holiday!


Love the ship, love the shoes, love the bag:D

(quote from my fav movie "My Best Friends Wedding...minus the ship")


Happy Holidays to you as well

[Loekii]

1st I love the info on the federation ship, can't wait to command one. :D

But I think it's only fair to show the specs on a Klingon ship, that is about equal to the NX-91001 in power.

Yes, lets not forget about us Klingo aligned players (not that I don't appreciate this, nor not understand why a Federation Starship needed to be posted first) :D

I do hope that the Tech Data is indicative of a modular design plan to Star Ships in STO -- where there are different 'levels' of equipment with in one class of ship, thus allowing for progression, as well as diversity of customization for play style.

And in the sense of Honor, this Klingo Captain will avoid destroying any Feds during this time of Peace (aka Happy and Safe Holidays/New years).

[ValkerOmega]

Wow. That thing looks like its going to be a powerhouse. I would just like one more thing: could you do a spot for the the klingon ship ill be using to blow those things up?

[pyriel32]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaa! Man can't wait to get one thank you Awen and merry christmas to you and to everyone at Cryptic and to everyone on the forums.

[SenshiBat]

Yes its stylish.. a nice Diplomatic chip.. Hello new planet this is what we have.. if we were mean we could use it to take your stuff.. but we're not but others are so you better trade with us..before they come and take your stuff.

[pyriel32]

ROFLMAO now that's funny.

[Voyager24]

Very very interesting ship and from what i'm reading it is a very deadly ship. I look forward to be reading more about this ship and others out there. :D

[Mailman653]

Command holograms.....makes me wonder if in the future ships will be run with minimal human (alien) crews. Overall, that ship does look like a power house, I look forward to seeing what the Klingon response to that ship will be.

[Stonez]

Awen, what a great gift!
The ship is truly impressive and I can't wait to get my mits on her.
Happy Holidays everyone!
:D


I see the mobile holo-emmiters are still a bone of contention since they haven't been implemented.

[Fresten]

As Data would have said : "Intriguing"

A really nice Xmas present :).

Thank you Awen

[JadeEngima]

This would appear to be a satisfactory adition the ships of the line. It is gratifying to note that Starfleet is maintaining it's focus on scientific pursuits rather than offensive/defensive technology alone.

[Elvyne]

very nixe xmass present indeed ^.^ Thank you.

btw regenerative shielding? Borg tech went starfleet :p

[Kuhr]

Fascinating!

[Jack_RM_]

Thank you for this.It really makes Christmas special.Now another update for New Year would be great.:D

[SektorM]

Stunning, absolutely stunning!

Merry Christmas and thanks for the wonderful and informative gift!

Have a great one everyone!

[Rapace]

Really nice! Thanks for the gift :)

[buzz12]

I have a master card. can i buy one of those. Can i have it gift wrap.


that is a sweet ride

[Mysterion]

WOW, This is a very nice ship. Thanks for the Specs and please by all means keep the ship designs coming. I would like to know what my choices are for a ship.

[Sorbek]

All I can say is WOW. That is an amazing looking ship!!

[ZeroMyth]

Damn she is a looker

[Sherp]

Cryptic loves us! They really love us! :D

[Tsibao]

Thanks for the present Cryptic, but i'm eager to learn something about a Klingon vessel :D

[Stu1701]

Interesting. I've been hoping we'd get to hear about some of the new ships in STO. The NX-91001 looks pretty interesting, can't wait to hear more.

[Spacemanspiff]

Awesome to finally get some ship info, this is what i have been waiting for. Hopefully the next one is Klingon . . .

[Johnny_Velocity]

Fantastic! Merry Christmas!

As my personal gift to you, I'm ready to begin beta whenever you are!:D

[furryklingon]

Hey were the Klingons naughty this year? :(

[govwilbea]

All I ask is for a tall ship and a star to guide her by..........and that my friends is a "Tall Ship" looks awesome!!

[govwilbea]

Fantastic! Merry Christmas!

As my personal gift to you, I'm ready to begin beta whenever you are!:D

Aye I'm feeling in the holiday spirit as well;)

[SeaBarron]

Sweeeeeeeet

[CaptainHoliday]

What a beast. what a nice Christmas gift. STO is gonna rock and I want to fly that ship.

[jagerbolt]

Awesome to see new info like this. Can't wait to see all the new ships revealed. :D:D

[Rgoodfel]

Thanks for the Christmas gift, I wish I had something to get you all, so the best I can do is wishing you all marry Christmas. Thanks for the ship info.

Don' t forget us Klingon players wouldn't mind a nice new year present also if the time was available :)

[Mooshique]

Awesome ship design, it looks great! ^^

Pretty damn sexy ship...

...Its Probably not healthy to be sexually attracted to ships.. :/ But hey, everyones free to their own sexualities. :P

Does anyone know if they'll be Prometheus-Class ship? THEY'RE ZE BESTE!!

Oh, and btw, Merry Christmas. X)

[TheHybrid]

Awsome! Merry Christmas!

[naynayz]

Fantastic! Merry Christmas!

As my personal gift to you, I'm ready to begin beta whenever you are!:D

I third this notion. I am also ready to give you and your kin a good monthly tiding for the happy new year! Thanks for giving me hope for a christmas present that I have been waiting for since I first played pong! Keep up with the rapid fire updates! It is keeping the buzz of the game going! Great job! More ships! More ships!

Engage! :)

[Acidrain]

Iam sorry though iam not all that impressed by this ship design, i find it to be rather Sovy and unpractical after and what the federation lost after the Dominion wars and i cant see the federation building such a line of ships. It goes along the lines of what the writing is writing, however this design just seems like an rehash of that of the sovy.

[phifur]

Wow great job. Nice information too :)

[Ensign.Ricky]

Wow what a beaut. I don't know why but I was stuck in the mind set that the model was still going to be considered Sovereign. I wonder what lucky ship is going get opportunity to be the first of that class and have all others named after it?


Holographic Consoles
Astrometric Laboratories


Whoo hoo Astrometrics!

* Embarked Craft (Typical): 3 Shuttle Bays
* 10 Shuttlecraft (various classes)
* 10 Shuttlepods (various classes)



10 Shuttlecraft? I know they said no space to atmosphere but maybe they'll let us have some space manuverability.

[Magmafire2374]

I'm glad that you guys like the ship! A very Merry Christmas to you and I hope that you all have a safe and happy Holiday!

Thank you very much for the ship info! A Merry Christmas and safe and Happy Holiday to you too.

[Debaser]

Like everyone else, all I can say is AWESOME! Thanks for the Christmas gift Cyptic!

In addition to it being a great looking ship and a fine addition to the line, I was very pleased with amount and detail level of the info provided, it sheds alot of light on the kinds of ships we'll be running in the game.

Since you're in the giving mood, how about a peek at a Klingon equivalent?:D

Also, if you have not come up with a new name for the NX91001 yet, you could always make it into a contest for us forumgoers, with the winner getting something neat:cool: (aside from having named the class, which is awesome in itself)

[alucard1]

Holoemitter Trans-Deck Array System


Does this, in effect, confirm the ability to have Holocrew??

Peace

[he3r0]

... its so pretty.. mmmm:):D

[CaptainHoliday]

Does this, in effect, confirm the ability to have Holocrew??

Peace

It sure seems like it does.

[Frost-Storm]

Looks like an Explorer/Cruiser type vessel mabey? All I know is I WANT ONE!

[RogueEnterprise]

Cool post, but could we have the Facebook add buttons and whatnot on this?

[haplo8]

I'm not sure if this was ever made into "offical" canon, but usually the name of a new type of ship becomes the "class" name for any other ships that follow. For example the U.S.S Defiant that we saw on DS9 was the first ship of that type, and the other ships that were made after it in that class were Defiant class ship. The U.S.S Constellation was the first Constellation type ship made and the famous U.S.S Enterprise followed at some point after that.

Anyway, if Cryptic is following that model we won't know the class name until whenever they chose to reveal the ship's name. Personally, I think we're long overdue for an Enterprise class of ships! :)

I thought the Enterprise-A the first Enterprise class ship but my googling has proved otherwise...

[Scooby]

Awesome Ship! :D

[Azurian]

Thank you Cryptic for giving us such a nice Christmas Present with revealing one of the ships! :D

Though I'm surprised that the ship we saw all this time wasn't really a Sovereign-refit, like we were lead to believe. Instead, this ship is more or less an Improved Sovereign that warranted a new ship class designation altogether.


And Type 14 Phaser Banks? :eek:

I honestly was expecting Type 13s to be the standard during this time frame. Guess phaser technology gained quite a bit in 30 years.


Now as for the NX-91001's Class Designation, I'm betting you all are going to hold a contest. Either you are going to name the class after the first player gets this vessel, or you are going to hold a contest. (Personally, I hope it's the latter.) ;)

[WarpVis]

I want it! I want it! I want it!
I want it! I want it! I want it!
I want it! I want it! I want it!

Drool! Drool! Drool!
I WANT IT BAD!!!!

[Nagilum]

Great looking ship can't wait to blow one up. Looking forward to seeing some Klingon ships.

[Nagilum]

Thank you Cryptic for giving us such a nice Christmas Present with revealing one of the ships! :D

Though I'm surprised that the ship we saw all this time wasn't really a Sovereign-refit, like we were lead to believe. Instead, this ship is more or less an Improved Sovereign that warranted a new ship class designation altogether.


And Type 14 Phaser Banks? :eek:

I honestly was expecting Type S to be the standard during this time frame. Guess phaser technology gained quite a bit in 30 years.


Now as for the NC-W's Class Designation, I'm betting you all are going to hold a contest. Either you are going to name the class after the first player gets this vessel, or you are going to hold a contest. (Personally, I hope it's the latter.) ;)



I was thinking the same thing.Either have the first person to make one name it,have it named after him/her or have a contest to name it.

[Swizy]

# Defensive Systems: Ablative Tetraburnium Alloy Hull

Ummm one cant eat that right?

[Lord_Xomic]

I hate to break people's bubbles, but I think this is a NPC, not a in-game player ship.

[Ozymandias]

Well I'll definitely agree with others who said that this is a good looking ship! I am also impressed at her defensive/offensive capabilities...

...that being said, I was hoping to see more of a design shift away from the semi-circular primary hull. Consider the Intrepid class and Prometheus prototype - I always thought the more triangular primary hull and more compact nacelle arrangement a nice development. That's just me though.

Merry Christmas all!

[Trekkie]

Wow, this was a great present! Thank you for posting this!

[Tylor_Liles]

yes due to holo emitters for EMH and ECH

[Tylor_Liles]

yes due to holo emitters for EMH and ECH yes it could be holo crewed. by now haven't they figured out DATA? i mean 30 yrs? please say they have figured out how to make Androids by 2409. maybe make it 2395 they have figured it out.

[redsox7897]

This is what I like to see.

[WarpVis]

yes due to holo emitters for EMH and ECH yes it could be holo crewed. by now haven't they figured out DATA? i mean 30 yrs? please say they have figured out how to make Androids by 2409. maybe make it 2395 they have figured it out.

I imagine that when Data is legally declared an autonomous individual in the episode "The Measure of a Man" that it would have resulted in a chilling effect on research in that field.

[Eidolonael]

While I think this ship is completely incredible, I still wish to know what ship is in the foreground of this image:

http://uploads.startrekonline.com/sto_screen12_0.jpg

[CaptianSquirrel]

i cant wait. i only hoping that it can replicate nuts!

[LusjoOrdo]

Heh not much thought put into this ship. Its the Sovereign. You need to come up with some more unique designs of your own. Not just take ones that exist and tweaking them a bit which is what alot of the ships in the screenshots and trailer look like.

[Stopher87]

That ship sounds more like an end game ship. I bet we are going to be stuck with a raven class. Although I would be fine with that at this point.

[Drake1444]

I love the ship and the details that go a long with it. I was just hoping that it would look a little more original. Looks a little too much like a Sovereign subtype than a newer vessel. Maybe it`s just the angle; the nessel pylons look cool. Not complaining; love it, want it, gotta have it.

Happy Holidays everyone

[Tabby_Cat]

Very nice. Keep'em coming!:)

[DIOMIDES]

Nice ship. I am looking forward to come aboard

[Eustace]

Beautiful, looking forward to flying that hunk of metal!

[Powermaster]

That is ONS (One Nasty Ship) great stats must be a very high level ship


---on a side note if anyone knows for sure if the Tri-nacelle Enterprise from an alternate timeline was from the episode "Parallels" I can't find a pic of the ship. To me that was the sickest federation ship i have seen. I would like to know if that ship was real or did i mix a bunch of ships up in my mind? > :confused:<

P.S. - Anyone know if that will be creatable if it is not already in the game?

[msbglarry]

It is a very nice ship. I cannot wait to see the other models that will be available!

[willriker09]

So that is the ship we have seen flying around on the cover of Game Informer magazine and in the trailer. Very cool looking and I like the little backstory/description you provided.

As you may be able to guess, I still have one little complaint. There are distinct differences between a constitution-class ship and a constitution-class ship refit including changed nacelles, deflector dish, etc. but over all it has the same design and feel of the constitution class. Why is this design a brand new NX class ship of its own? Wouldn't it just be a sovereign-class refit as all it has changed is the nacelles and the enterprise-like connector that connects the nacelles together in the rear of the ship?

[jdesocio]

i like it but i think the warp nacelles are too long.

[StarSlash]

And here we go again. Ship for everything... Everyone in the game will have this coz it is the biggest the fastest, the best, has the biggest firepower ever and incredible science lab... things like this ruin the game

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I'm glad that you guys like the ship! A very Merry Christmas to you and I hope that you all have a safe and happy Holiday!

Definatly Loving it

Can see my self coming to peoples rescue and making first contact and pushing back holstiles with ease in this baby ;)

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

i cant wait. i only hoping that it can replicate nuts!

you are a NUT er lol Captain SQUIREL LOL love it

:)

cant wait for the game to come out

[SenshiBat]

Maybe the longer nacelles are to accommodate pressurized cargo bins for Tribbles

[Dgleich]

Nice ship but I don't like the joint part of nacelles...
Let's kick the Borg...

[Chinajones]

This sound stupid, but is the Federation trying to adapt some of the Borg tech?

In Arwen's post it stated "regenerative shields on the NX-91001 can adapt to enemy weapons fire during a battle." Does that mean the Federation is trying to start adapting to fire making them superior to the Borg?

Or maybe it is just hopeful thinking........

[Posideon]

well well, hope to see a new Klingon class ship soon :D but i must say that she is a predator!!

love the look of the ship also!

[Sloan_S31]

It is nonsense for this ship to be classified as something entirely new as it is CLEARLY still a Sovereign. What this ship should be called is a Sovereign class REFIT, the modernisation of an aging, existing spaceframe, as the 30+ y/o Sovereign would be by the early 25th century.

Examples of this in canon are: Constitution class Refit (Enterprise-A), Excelsior Refit (Enterprise-B)

NX registries are reserved only for the 1st ship in an ENTIRELY new class (with exception of the NX class). So a Sovereign Refit would not wear an NX registry, but an NCC-91001 and so forth.

Sorry for the ranting, self-righteousness and whole canon police thing but it's how I feel we'll bring Quality, Authenticity and Longevity to this game.

I commend the STO team's thoroughness in researching Star Trek references but when it comes to Trek canon, some of our input can help make this game greater. Keep up the good work!

[Borguce]

Wow....great looking ship! I cannot wait till we see what else they have to offer!

[RandomRedshirt]

:cough: KITBASH :cough:

Ok, it's obvious they wanted something that looked like a Sovy in the game, but was more powerful. They simply took the Sovereign class numbers, most likely from here:

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/sovereign-class-starship-ncc-1701-e-sheet-1.jpg

then bumped up the numbers here and there as they deemed appropriate.

Why wouldn't they simply offer this up as a Sovy refit? Why is this being called an NX class vessel? It is obviously a Sovy variation, or possibly a refit. NX designations are saved for EXPERIMENTAL vessels. This is not an experiment, this ship already exists.

I'm not getting the need for so many torpedo tubes. 4 front and back? You'd need to carry an inordinate amount of ordinance with you to make use of the capability. As it is, a standard Sovy payload of 250 Torpedoes (175 Photon, 75 Quantum) gets burned up in mere minutes with Picard in the center seat. (See Nemesis) So is a Sovy size vessel now going to need to carry 1000 torpedoes?

Done ranting. For now....

---EDIT---

Nope, apparently I'm not done ranting. This ship, is commissioned in 2409? Seriously? I bet the Sovy class did have MORE adavanced refits than this entire design BEFORE 2409.

Unless Starfleet R&D completely stagnated between 2379 and 2409.

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

well well, hope to see a new Klingon class ship soon :D but i must say that she is a predator!!

love the look of the ship also!

Great Warrior Posideon,

You give honour to your house and the Dev's have been reported to be creating the Klingon ships from now to March for the game so im pretty sure you and your fellow Klingons will have your ship summary by then as there taking there time on it till March to create the Klingon vessel then im sure i will need the Predator ship NX-91001 as im absolutly positive that your vessel will also be a TOUGH COOKIE

and its not that long from now till march my friend so be patient and im sure youll be rewarded :O)

[Foss]

Amazing. This is the first in-game info we have.

+1

And, a real Star Trek look ! :)

[Paulo999]

:

Why wouldn't they simply offer this up as a Sovy refit? Why is this being called an NX class vessel? It is obviously a Sovy variation, or possibly a refit. NX designations are saved for EXPERIMENTAL vessels. This is not an experiment, this ship already exists.


So ? they more than likely did the same thing for the Miranda >> Soyuz classes

Love the ship :P cant wait to use it on yee klingon dogs :P

[Nagilum]

i cant wait. i only hoping that it can replicate nuts!

sometimes you feel like a nut sometimes you don't

[LusjoOrdo]

+1

And, a real Star Trek look ! :)


Yeah not sure if that was a positive remark. If its not I agree, its sad.

[Triton1]

:cough: KITBASH :cough:

Ok, it's obvious they wanted something that looked like a Sovy in the game, but was more powerful. They simply took the Sovereign class numbers, most likely from here:

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/sovereign-class-starship-ncc-1701-e-sheet-1.jpg

then bumped up the numbers here and there as they deemed appropriate.

Why wouldn't they simply offer this up as a Sovy refit? Why is this being called an NX class vessel? It is obviously a Sovy variation, or possibly a refit. NX designations are saved for EXPERIMENTAL vessels. This is not an experiment, this ship already exists.

I'm not getting the need for so many torpedo tubes. 4 front and back? You'd need to carry an inordinate amount of ordinance with you to make use of the capability. As it is, a standard Sovy payload of 250 Torpedoes (175 Photon, 75 Quantum) gets burned up in mere minutes with Picard in the center seat. (See Nemesis) So is a Sovy size vessel now going to need to carry 1000 torpedoes?

Done ranting. For now....

---EDIT---

Nope, apparently I'm not done ranting. This ship, is commissioned in 2409? Seriously? I bet the Sovy class did have MORE adavanced refits than this entire design BEFORE 2409.

Unless Starfleet R&D completely stagnated between 2379 and 2409.

I agree with everything that you said RandomRedshirt. This "design" is a big disappointment. They took the paint scheme of the Sovereign-class saucer from the U.S.S. Sentinel in the PS2 game Star Trek: Invasion. The support pylons look like they were taken from the Galaxy-class Enterprise NCC-1701-D from the picture. Then we have the Symmetrical Warp Field Governor from the NX-01 Enterprise design from Star Trek: Enterprise at the end of the warp nacelles.

Homage to an earlier design is one thing. Lazy plagarism by kitbashing is another. This design is a lazy kitbash.

It would have been nice if they would have released orhtos of this design so that we could see it top, bottom, fore, aft, and side.

I would have expected Ryan Denning and John Eaves to have done a much better job on this design.

I wonder if the Hyper Impulse technology mentioned in the ship's specifications comes from The Journal of Applied Treknology web site from an article written by Greg Logan.

We got the Emergency Medical and Emergency Command Holograms covered. So what about Holograms for other vital ship operatons. Emergency Engineering Hologram (EEH) or how about a Emergency Helm Hologram (EHH)? Why are they limiited to EMH and ECH?

I don't know why they didn't call this new ship a Sovereign-variant.

I would have preferred that they had released the design and details of the Tahoe or Excalibur classes. At least these designs are more original.

[RandomRedshirt]

So ? they more than likely did the same thing for the Miranda >> Soyuz classes

Love the ship :P cant wait to use it on yee klingon dogs :P

No, they wouldn't have done the same thing for the Soyuz, which was a short run variation of the Miranda class.

NX desingations are reserved for experimental vessels and the first run vessels of a class. because the Soyuz is a variation, or could be called a refit, it would not carry an NX designation any more than the Constitution Class Refit would have, which it did not, because it is not a first run vessel.

[Paulo999]

No, they wouldn't have done the same thing for the Soyuz, which was a short run variation of the Miranda class.

NX desingations are reserved for experimental vessels and the first run vessels of a class. because the Soyuz is a variation, or could be called a refit, it would not carry an NX designation any more than the Constitution Class Refit would have, which it did not, because it is not a first run vessel.

maybe but who cares.. the ship looks awesome

NAME OF VESSEL REGISTRY
USS Soyuz 1 NX-1921

[0wl]

Bla bla bla!

I for one love this ship and the information that comes with it! :)

[RandomRedshirt]

maybe but who cares.. the ship looks awesome

The ship looks awesome?

Hardly. The ship looks like a tortured Sovereign class that someone wanted to put a "retro" spin on by including the cross beam section from the NX-01. The nacelles look like the cross between the actual Sovy nacelles and NX-01 nacelles.

It's an obvious kitbash, and a pretty poor one to boot.

Of course, we'd all better get ready to see lots of kitbashes since ship customization will be allowed, and spoilers and flame decals will become the norm.

"Pimp my Starship" anyone?

[waltzz]

The ship looks awesome?

Hardly. The ship looks like a tortured Sovereign class that someone wanted to put a "retro" spin on by including the cross beam section from the NX-01. The nacelles look like the cross between the actual Sovy nacelles and NX-01 nacelles.

It's an obvious kitbash, and a pretty poor one to boot.

Of course, we'd all better get ready to see lots of kitbashes since ship customization will be allowed, and spoilers and flame decals will become the norm.

"Pimp my Starship" anyone?

100% agreed!

pretty much lame! and what is a hyper impulse drive? :S

[Paulo999]

lol if you dont like it then dont use it.

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

mmmm i want to be flying about in the NX-91001 now or my Intrepid class ship,

And if someone else in game gets one before me ill be hailing them and asking permission to come aboard Captain ;)

[AaronH]

10 Shuttlecraft? I know they said no space to atmosphere but maybe they'll let us have some space manuverability.

This. I know having the ability to fly around in a shuttlecraft won't add a whole lot to the game, but it is something I really want to do. I am sure there is content that can be added for this, and really hope they do.

[coprnblue]

Very nice...I look forward to taking it out for a spin. Thanks for the Christmas present.

[Powernexus]

The ship looks awesome?

Hardly. The ship looks like a tortured Sovereign class that someone wanted to put a "retro" spin on by including the cross beam section from the NX-01. The nacelles look like the cross between the actual Sovy nacelles and NX-01 nacelles.

It's an obvious kitbash, and a pretty poor one to boot.

Of course, we'd all better get ready to see lots of kitbashes since ship customization will be allowed, and spoilers and flame decals will become the norm.

"Pimp my Starship" anyone?


Wheeeeeeeeooooooo Wheeeeeeoooooooooo

Total geek alert, duck and cover!

OMG! You mean that they have modeled the ship based on previous designs with some options based on form rather than function? Well that just killed the game for me. How dare they? Next thing you know there's lime green paint and spinners on the torpedo tubes.

Sorry buddy. If you want the Star Trek tatical space combat emulator it's that way --------->

You should be thankful that there is a STO at all, not nitpicking over BS.

As far as Cryptic goes: Nice job! It's nice to see the progress that you all have made and I am looking forward to 'going where no man has gone before.'

p.s. Do the flame decals come with the kit or are they an extra? :rolleyes:

[ArchonX]

To everyone complaining about the design of this ship, you seem to have forgotten about refits.
Enterprise-B was a refit of the Excelsior-class, Enterprise from motion picture was a refit of the series. Refits happen.

[Lt.Renak]

What a nice ship. Cryptic did exactly what I hoped they do: take care of the traditional star trek designs! This are specifications as known in the shows and I really look forward to work hard to earn vessels like this one.

[Triton1]

To everyone complaining about the design of this ship, you seem to have forgotten about refits.
Enterprise-B was a refit of the Excelsior-class, Enterprise from motion picture was a refit of the series. Refits happen.

Just seems odd that a 22nd century design element we have only seen on the NX-01 would be included on a later 24th early 25th century design.

Homage and continuity of design is one thing,cutting and pasting elements from previous designs is another. The NX-91001 looks and reads like a fan fiction ship. Something that you would see created by an 8th grader in study hall.

Further, I don't agree with the let's put up with the design argument because we should be grateful for Star Trek: Online, That's just nonsense. Perpetual hired Andrew Probert and John Eaves to design the hardware with Ryan Denning and I expected something more imaginative and visually appealing. The designers did not meet my expectations.

[RandomRedshirt]

OMG! You mean that they have modeled the ship based on previous designs with some options based on form rather than function? Well that just killed the game for me. How dare they? Next thing you know there's lime green paint and spinners on the torpedo tubes.



Guess what? You can take a yellow AMC Pacer, strip it's decals and logos, paint it red and put a Corvette logo on it, but it still don't change the fact that underneath, it's an AMC Pacer.

It is what it is. This is not a new ship as you'd like to contend. It is a Refit, and more over, it's a kitbash.

My objection to this ship is not from a Geek's standpoint, but rather from a disappointed gamer's standpoint. The whole point of jumping this game forward into the future was so that the devs could have some creative license and develop new ships and technology. This is not a new ship, it's a kitbash on a ship that already exists, and that disappoints me.

For crying out loud, take 10 extra minutes and design something unique to call a "new" ship. Don't give me a 1986 Ford Taurus and try and tell me it's new because it has a spoiler on the back.

[Paulo999]

Guess what? You can take a yellow AMC Pacer, strip it's decals and logos, paint it red and put a Corvette logo on it, but it still don't change the fact that underneath, it's an AMC Pacer.

It is what it is. This is not a new ship as you'd like to contend. It is a Refit, and more over, it's a kitbash.

My objection to this ship is not from a Geek's standpoint, but rather from a disappointed gamer's standpoint. The whole point of jumping this game forward into the future was so that the devs could have some creative license and develop new ships and technology. This is not a new ship, it's a kitbash on a ship that already exists, and that disappoints me.

For crying out loud, take 10 extra minutes and design something unique to call a "new" ship. Don't give me a 1986 Ford Taurus and try and tell me it's new because it has a spoiler on the back.

Miranda >> Soyuz

[LordDave]

Please look here:
http://users.bigpond.net.au/dax/starship.jpg

Now note the "Enterprise" ships and how similar they look to one another as you go up the line.

[yye00]

Seems its not just me but a lot of people from this forum and trekweb who contend with the NX designation. NX is reserved for experimental new designs, this design seems to have the saucer section and the main hull of a sovereign, new nacelles that are hybrid influence of sovereign/NX-01 (they are round and tapered) and the "roll-bar" of a Miranda. Its not that I do not like the ship, its a kitbash, like many others it is... interesting, but not deserving of an NX designation. Cryptic took a creative license to ST history, started wars, made alliances etc.. but the ship designs are not as creative as one would imagine.

On a different note, I do not mind the technobable in the ship sepc I suppose, as long as it gets explained and "rationalized". From what we see in ST, probes do have interfaces to science stations and are accessible to science officers, what makes the exo-probe so special? Logic dictates an exo-probe is an "outside" probe, which for most starships, is in fact the case. Plus interfacing to data? you want to interface to the probe itself. I suspect this is new tech that allows you to see what the probe is seeing, which is kind of redundant as we already have that in ST, all probes send back telemetry. Sorry the exo-probe thing bugged me.

[LordDave]

Seems its not just me but a lot of people from this forum and trekweb who contend with the NX designation. NX is reserved for experimental new designs, this design seems to have the saucer section and the main hull of a sovereign, new nacelles that are hybrid influence of sovereign/NX-01 (they are round and tapered) and the "roll-bar" of a Miranda. Its not that I do not like the ship, its a kitbash, like many others it is... interesting, but not deserving of an NX designation. Cryptic took a creative license to ST history, started wars, made alliances etc.. but the ship designs are not as creative as one would imagine.

On a different note, I do not mind the technobable in the ship sepc I suppose, as long as it gets explained and "rationalized". From what we see in ST, probes do have interfaces to science stations and are accessible to science officers, what makes the exo-probe so special? Logic dictates an exo-probe is an "outside" probe, which for most starships, is in fact the case. Plus interfacing to data? you want to interface to the probe itself. I suspect this is new tech that allows you to see what the probe is seeing, which is kind of redundant as we already have that in ST, all probes send back telemetry. Sorry the exo-probe thing bugged me.

Probes are unmanned objects that just scan stuff. There was a TNG episode where Geordi used some kind of probe to actually go INTO a ship and physically interact with it.
http://www.g4tv.com/startrekthenextgeneration/episodes/5254/Interface.html

Ah, there it is: Interface. I'm guessing the probe is similar to that.
Also, the fully holographic controls basically means customizable interiors.

The outside may look like the old ship, but inside is very, very different.

[yye00]

Probes are unmanned objects that just scan stuff. There was a TNG episode where Geordi used some kind of probe to actually go INTO a ship and physically interact with it.
http://www.g4tv.com/startrekthenextgeneration/episodes/5254/Interface.html

Ah, there it is: Interface. I'm guessing the probe is similar to that.
Also, the fully holographic controls basically means customizable interiors.

The outside may look like the old ship, but inside is very, very different.

First off, I am well aware what probes are, I designed scientific instrumentation for a living at one point. From a technical point of view, if you are a scientist and you are interfacing data, you are either reading it or writing it. Almost everything else is referred to as data analysis. My argument stands, and your argument that we saw it in TNG only proves my point: we saw this before. It is not NX grade.

Holographic interiors are not particularly a very good idea, we have plenty of cases where the holodeck malfunctions, the safeties go down, programs are stolen, manipulated etc... You think it would be a wise decision to have holographic controls for critical ship systems?

[LordDave]

From a technical point of view, if you are a scientist and you are interfacing data, you are either reading it or writing it. Almost everything else is referred to as data analysis. My argument stands, and your argument that we saw it in TNG only proves my point: we saw this before. It is not NX grade.

Unless you're mentally linked with the data flow. Then, technically, you're interfacing with the data and then analyzing it. A bit of a stretch I know, but possible.
As for it already being seen:
Yeah, but why didn't we ever see it again? Maybe it was deemed too dangerous? Maybe the technology wasn't ready? Maybe Geordi was the only one who could really interface with it that way at that time and now we can do it without those big blinking implants?

-Also note:
This is for gamers, most of which aren't scientists, work with data, or even like to go to school. So they really gotta dumb down the descriptions a bit.


Holographic interiors are not particularly a very good idea, we have plenty of cases where the holodeck malfunctions, the safeties go down, programs are stolen, manipulated etc... You think it would be a wise decision to have holographic controls for critical ship systems?

The same could be said about button to LCARS. I'm sure it was deemed unreliable when it first came out, but after many years of bug testing and improvement, it's now the controls of choice. In the same sense, we saw the holodeck's first appearance, at it's infancy. At the end of Nemesis, the bridge's view screen is holographic. It's probably pretty stable technology now.

[SoulfireX]

Just seems odd that a 22nd century design element we have only seen on the NX-01 would be included on a later 24th early 25th century design.

Homage and continuity of design is one thing,cutting and pasting elements from previous designs is another. The NX-91001 looks and reads like a fan fiction ship. Something that you would see created by an 8th grader in study hall.

Further, I don't agree with the let's put up with the design argument because we should be grateful for Star Trek: Online, That's just nonsense. Perpetual hired Andrew Probert and John Eaves to design the hardware with Ryan Denning and I expected something more imaginative and visually appealing. The designers did not meet my expectations.

I agree 100%. This new design looks ugly, a bad Sovereign knock-off. And they really need to lose that stupid pylon connecting the nacelles.

[Paulo999]

lol maybe the holographic technology is so the player can create an image of his/her ship in space so the enemy havnt got a clue which one to shoot at

[Tethys]

Guess what? You can take a yellow AMC Pacer, strip it's decals and logos, paint it red and put a Corvette logo on it, but it still don't change the fact that underneath, it's an AMC Pacer.

It is what it is. This is not a new ship as you'd like to contend. It is a Refit, and more over, it's a kitbash.

My objection to this ship is not from a Geek's standpoint, but rather from a disappointed gamer's standpoint. The whole point of jumping this game forward into the future was so that the devs could have some creative license and develop new ships and technology. This is not a new ship, it's a kitbash on a ship that already exists, and that disappoints me.

For crying out loud, take 10 extra minutes and design something unique to call a "new" ship. Don't give me a 1986 Ford Taurus and try and tell me it's new because it has a spoiler on the back.

I have to agree with you TOTALLY Red becuz this... is kitbash at its finest...

And to the devs, if you need ANY HELP in designing ships, PLEASE ask someone such as myself who has actually put some thought into constructing Starfleet ships... There are also others around here who will be more then happy to help your devs with interesting new ideas. Just check the Hailing Frequency (http://hailingfrequency.co.uk/boards/index.php?board=33.0) forums... TONS of ship designs there, and many of them could easily pass as canon...

[robby241]

eh... i kind of expected a little more out of a new ship class. it seems insanely armed and not really aesthetically original or pleasing. of course come launch time, ill give a it a chance when the opportunity arises

[Paulo999]

I have to agree with you TOTALLY Red becuz this... is kitbash at its finest...

And to the devs, if you need ANY HELP in designing ships, PLEASE ask someone such as myself who has actually put some thought into constructing Starfleet ships... There are also others around here who will be more then happy to help your devs with interesting new ideas. Just check the Hailing Frequency (http://hailingfrequency.co.uk/boards/index.php?board=33.0) forums... TONS of ship designs there, and many of them could easily pass as canon...

think it would be better to let the developers design their own ships.. dont want the fourms spammed with "hey use my ship" then the thousands of debates on whos ships suck etc

[Powernexus]

Guess what? You can take a yellow AMC Pacer, strip it's decals and logos, paint it red and put a Corvette logo on it, but it still don't change the fact that underneath, it's an AMC Pacer.

It is what it is. This is not a new ship as you'd like to contend. It is a Refit, and more over, it's a kitbash.

My objection to this ship is not from a Geek's standpoint, but rather from a disappointed gamer's standpoint. The whole point of jumping this game forward into the future was so that the devs could have some creative license and develop new ships and technology. This is not a new ship, it's a kitbash on a ship that already exists, and that disappoints me.

For crying out loud, take 10 extra minutes and design something unique to call a "new" ship. Don't give me a 1986 Ford Taurus and try and tell me it's new because it has a spoiler on the back.



What changes can you really expect besides perhaps transwarp capabilities? The technology hasn't really advanced much in the intervening years, so ship design, much like car design in this day and age, has become more of a matter of aesthetics.

I'm not defending this as being the greatest thing since sliced bread or anything, but flying into a nerdrage over it seems a bit excessive.

This is a licensed IP with a devout following so I am sure they are hesitant to use too much 'creative license' when designing new ships or technology. Maybe that will change a little while down the road, but for now set your phasers on chill out and perhaps give some helpfull and friendly suggestions where they belong, and not complain so much. A friendly suggestion will get you much farther than insults.

...and on that note I am sorry for not being more friendly with my responses, I'm not meaning to be argumentative, I just feel that some of the fans have some unreasonable expectations from this game that the devs aren't going to possibly be able to satisfy.

[SenshiBat]

We're Storming the brain to save the Dev tm time.. they come in here sift the chaff from the wheat and give us mo better shippys yes?

[Greathera]

What?!?! No multi vector assault mode?!? Tee hee j/k nice ship guys (even if it is a mesh of the Sov and Prometheus prototype), Cant wait to see it in action.

[TheWon]

I do wished the would create a new ship, but hey take what I can get.

[Jezzer]

Thanks very much.

I like the interchangeability between science/exploratory to military purposes.

[callsign11b]

It's nice cryptic gave us something.
but lets get real they gave us a ship that was the main focus on the trailer and just put some stats on it.
my 10 year old could have done that.
Give us some real meat and potatoes.
ship designing. what hull types primary and secondary are going to be included in the morphing customization player designing. is it going to be a cut and past system using all canon designs. or a morphing using certain shapes and specific hull types.
whats next the klingon vor'cha cruiser you see in the trailer with some updated stats..
real substance. something we all can get into on the form and have some good discutions about other than stats.
better armour and regenetive shilds and more powerfull weapons.
thats a given since its 30 years past nemisis.:mad:

[LordDave]

It's nice cryptic gave us something.
but lets get real they gave us a ship that was the main focus on the trailer and just put some stats on it.
my 10 year old could have done that.
Give us some real meat and potatoes.
ship designing. what hull types primary and secondary are going to be included in the morphing customization player designing. is it going to be a cut and past system using all canon designs. or a morphing using certain shapes and specific hull types.
whats next the klingon vor'cha cruiser you see in the trailer with some updated stats..
real substance. something we all can get into on the form and have some good discutions about other than stats.
better armour and regenetive shilds and more powerfull weapons.
thats a given since its 30 years past nemisis.:mad:

And risk giving you something that will get cut later on? That'll cause more problems then giving us nothing.

[callsign11b]

I agree they can't tell us everything because its not done yet.
but there is no reason they can't give us a screenshot or two with some general dev. comments to keep us entertained and have some community comments.
there not going to show us and tell us every hull design there thinking of putting in.
but in the same topic how would it hurt if they show a customization screenshot with a little info like there will be a choice of different hull types cover many time frame canon ships in witch you can morph and or add other parts to to create completely new designs or players can do nothing more than a cut and past apporch and create canon stlye ships.
I gave you nothing specific but still brings you something of interests.
what they did was give us nothing than put a stat to a ship picture.
look on the net more web pages out there that does that than theres different types of cans of soup.

[yye00]

Unless you're mentally linked with the data flow. Then, technically, you're interfacing with the data and then analyzing it. A bit of a stretch I know, but possible.
As for it already being seen:
Yeah, but why didn't we ever see it again? Maybe it was deemed too dangerous? Maybe the technology wasn't ready? Maybe Geordi was the only one who could really interface with it that way at that time and now we can do it without those big blinking implants?

-Also note:
This is for gamers, most of which aren't scientists, work with data, or even like to go to school. So they really gotta dumb down the descriptions a bit.



The same could be said about button to LCARS. I'm sure it was deemed unreliable when it first came out, but after many years of bug testing and improvement, it's now the controls of choice. In the same sense, we saw the holodeck's first appearance, at it's infancy. At the end of Nemesis, the bridge's view screen is holographic. It's probably pretty stable technology now.

Sorry Dave, haven't had a good argument in years. Also been watching Monty Python. Yes the LCARS touch-screen system is flawed, it tended to explode all the time in DS9 (which could be a cardy thing but then again they could have installed fuses) and in VOY. My suspicion is that the holo-controls were to attract the attention of the fans of the EMH/ECH Mark 1 (myself included). Something nice, but ultimately, not as useful as let's say backup fire extinguishers in case the force field emitters fail (which happens all too often) or let's say a spare warp core held in a cargo bay should the need arise to jettison the core. Heck, I would settle for seatbelts!. We saw a ton of new experimental tech in TNG, DS9 and VOY. A lot of it can be refined and put to very good use, but holo-controls on every deck? Is it really that useful? I would trade it for a redundant shield emitter.

This still does not solve the problem of the classification of the ship as an NX. When NX is in a ship's registry, certain images come to mind: radical departure from a modular hull like the defiant, or incredibly modular approach to ship design with the prometheus. At best this is a Sovereign refit, and while it is an interesting one at that, I would rather have it labeled as such and not as a new, ground breaking design. If the federation were to be full of kitbashed ships like this, it might be nicer to stare at the background.

[Powerhelm]

I think most of the reasonable people posted somewhere after the first 8 pages of blind "I love it and have never before seen anything so magnificent" and the last 7 pages of "It's a scourge upon my eyes! AAIIIEEE!"

So forgive me for being late to the reasonable party.

Is it pretty? Yes. Is it sounding like it's powerful and thereby probably not attainable (hopefully rather) until the end-game levels? Probably. Is it a Sovereign with a pod and some new nacelles? Pretty much yes.

I don't think it's different enough to really pass it off as an entirely new ship. I'd love to see this as an example of their customization features though (if it had been a normal Sov to start).

But lets keep in mind that if you don't like how it looks then change it once you get one since we can customize them to some unknown degree. I think releasing this as an X-Mas gift was a mistake, releasing it on a sleepy tuesday would have been a better idea since I guess "X-Mas gift" makes us think that it's a really cool/unique thing.

Maybe if you'd shown us our starter ship instead...

[achaney23]

And so it begins!!!!111

The arguments with cannon vs non-cannon, the design, the designation, the stats, just what is NX vs NCC.

How can any ship in this game have an NX designation, assuming it means prototype and everyone is gonna have a copy??!??!? I thought prototype meant there was ONE of them, not ONE hundred thousand of them?

This is why making a Star Trek game of this magnitude and flexibility is so hard, you will never make everyone happy. I wish cryptic the best of luck with this. Especially with their new masters and their monetary incentive.

And after looking at this picture (http://users.bigpond.net.au/dax/starship.jpg) with all the ship designs on them. It is a total kit bash with the Sovereign class. This is nothing new IMHO.

[atony4732]

This ship is off the chain. I want to see more ships before I pick one. :cool:

[The_Stetz]

And so it begins!!!!111

The arguments with cannon vs non-cannon, the design, the designation, the stats, just what is NX vs NCC.

How can any ship in this game have an NX designation, assuming it means prototype and everyone is gonna have a copy??!??!? I thought prototype meant there was ONE of them, not ONE hundred thousand of them?

This is why making a Star Trek game of this magnitude and flexibility is so hard, you will never make everyone happy. I wish cryptic the best of luck with this. Especially with their new masters and their monetary incentive.

And after looking at this picture (http://users.bigpond.net.au/dax/starship.jpg) with all the ship designs on them. It is a total kit bash with the Sovereign class. This is nothing new IMHO.

Chaad Losan I belive that Cryptic will be able to change these the NX to NCC when the game is out in stores, so that it will satisfy you. On the other hand this looks like a well designed ship you guys have produced. I'm looking forward to getting to captain that bad boy

[miqrogroove]

Here's to hoping Cryptic can do something better than one screenshot every two weeks in 2009.

[RandomRedshirt]

What changes can you really expect besides perhaps transwarp capabilities? The technology hasn't really advanced much in the intervening years, so ship design, much like car design in this day and age, has become more of a matter of aesthetics.

I'm not defending this as being the greatest thing since sliced bread or anything, but flying into a nerdrage over it seems a bit excessive.

This is a licensed IP with a devout following so I am sure they are hesitant to use too much 'creative license' when designing new ships or technology. Maybe that will change a little while down the road, but for now set your phasers on chill out and perhaps give some helpfull and friendly suggestions where they belong, and not complain so much. A friendly suggestion will get you much farther than insults.

...and on that note I am sorry for not being more friendly with my responses, I'm not meaning to be argumentative, I just feel that some of the fans have some unreasonable expectations from this game that the devs aren't going to possibly be able to satisfy.

I understand your position.

What I'm getting at is people who generally don't know alot about "starship design", essentially first timers, make this critical mistake when updating an existing design.

They naturally think that "more is better" or "bigger is better" without giving consideration to the effects that their changes would have on the overall design.

Think of it this way: If I am trying to remodel a building that is 100 years old, can I simply upgrade the building by making the cornerstone 2 times as large without consideration for the rest of the building and the impact that size change has on the building?

Slightly increasing size dimensions, adding all new "holographic systems" without considering the power requirements and what sort of upgrades that would necessitate and randomly increasing the number of torpedo tubes and phaser emitters a ship has isn't designing a new ship.

This is what has sent some people into a "nerdrage". I also find it not at all uncommon that some of the people who have gone into nerdrage about this are people who have designed new ships for a long time, including Tethys and myself. Bottom line is the overall effort put forth by Cryptic was on par with people that create "refit" ship designs in the ship designer community. Grabbing an existing ship and slightly altering numbers and throwing on a spoiler is the kind of thing they do, instead of sitting down and laying "new lines" as we call it in the design community.

Now, on top of that, there is the kitbash debate. Some ship designers absolutely positively hate kitbashes. Me, personally, I can understand and accept kitbashes, so long as they have some effort put into them. For example, using a Sovereign class to create and updated Nebula class, while certainly a kitbash, is at least more creative than taking a Sovereign class and adding a spoiler. But it seems that Cryptic went the later route, which tends to upset those of us who enjoy ship design because it is essentially the lazy way out. And not only did Cryptic take the lazy way out on the graphics, but as explained above, they took the lazy way out on the specs too.

In the end, Cryptic would have drawn far less nerdrage and ire, had they presented a more creative and unique design. Yes, there probably would have been critics of that as well, and people who bash it because they don't like it, or don't like Cryptic or heck, don't like themselves. Me, I don't think I would have been one of them. I tend to appreciate seeing new and unique ideas.

Unless of course it's donkey's rear ugly. :)

Leave the kitbashing and the variations of existing designs to the players in STO with the much vaunted ship customization tools. Focus the efforts of ship design on creating the entirely new ships that we want to see as part of the 25th Century.

[H8Hydrant]

I understand your position.

What I'm getting at is people who generally don't know alot about "starship design", essentially first timers, make this critical mistake when updating an existing design.

They naturally think that "more is better" or "bigger is better" without giving consideration to the effects that their changes would have on the overall design.

Think of it this way: If I am trying to remodel a building that is 100 years old, can I simply upgrade the building by making the cornerstone 2 times as large without consideration for the rest of the building and the impact that size change has on the building?

Slightly increasing size dimensions, adding all new "holographic systems" without considering the power requirements and what sort of upgrades that would necessitate and randomly increasing the number of torpedo tubes and phaser emitters a ship has isn't designing a new ship.

This is what has sent some people into a "nerdrage". I also find it not at all uncommon that some of the people who have gone into nerdrage about this are people who have designed new ships for a long time, including Tethys and myself. Bottom line is the overall effort put forth by Cryptic was on par with people that create "refit" ship designs in the ship designer community. Grabbing an existing ship and slightly altering numbers and throwing on a spoiler is the kind of thing they do, instead of sitting down and laying "new lines" as we call it in the design community.

Now, on top of that, there is the kitbash debate. Some ship designers absolutely positively hate kitbashes. Me, personally, I can understand and accept kitbashes, so long as they have some effort put into them. For example, using a Sovereign class to create and updated Nebula class, while certainly a kitbash, is at least more creative than taking a Sovereign class and adding a spoiler. But it seems that Cryptic went the later route, which tends to upset those of us who enjoy ship design because it is essentially the lazy way out. And not only did Cryptic take the lazy way out on the graphics, but as explained above, they took the lazy way out on the specs too.

In the end, Cryptic would have drawn far less nerdrage and ire, had they presented a more creative and unique design. Yes, there probably would have been critics of that as well, and people who bash it because they don't like it, or don't like Cryptic or heck, don't like themselves. Me, I don't think I would have been one of them. I tend to appreciate seeing new and unique ideas.

Unless of course it's donkey's rear ugly. :)

Leave the kitbashing and the variations of existing designs to the players in STO with the much vaunted ship customization tools. Focus the efforts of ship design on creating the entirely new ships that we want to see as part of the 25th Century.

Kudos! That was very well put and thought out. You hit the nail on the head!

[yye00]

Quite well put RandomRedShirt. About the transwarp issue though, it would be rather nice to have some sort of "fast" warp drive to get to remote sectors within, let's say hours instead of days/weeks of traveling at high warp. Having a timer based transwarp, quantum slip-stream, graviton catapult sort of device would be handy. I would be much more interested in the NX-91001 if the pod on the spoiler was a transwarp conduit stabalizer, or a quantum slipstream field enhancer, or a soliton wave projector (old TNG ep). But more to the point, the Nova, the Akira are kitbashed to some extent, they share a lot of design elements with the constitution and the miranda class (with saucer section moved forward). They are both however elegantly designed and evolutionary in terms of ship design from old to new (lower lateral profile to maximize warp efficiency and removing the "neck section to reduce structural stresses at high impulse). The ASDB is full of great ship designs, a lot of them well thought of and described in detail. I look forward to seeing something like that from Cryptic.

[LusjoOrdo]

To everyone complaining about the design of this ship, you seem to have forgotten about refits.
Enterprise-B was a refit of the Excelsior-class, Enterprise from motion picture was a refit of the series. Refits happen.

Its not being called a refit genius. Maybe if you read what everyone was talking about you would have noticed that they were saying it should be called a refit because IT IS A REFIT!

[Debaser]

This thread is turning into a great reason for Cryptic to NOT release any new ship info

[LordDave]

Sorry Dave, haven't had a good argument in years. Also been watching Monty Python. Yes the LCARS touch-screen system is flawed, it tended to explode all the time in DS9 (which could be a cardy thing but then again they could have installed fuses) and in VOY. My suspicion is that the holo-controls were to attract the attention of the fans of the EMH/ECH Mark 1 (myself included). Something nice, but ultimately, not as useful as let's say backup fire extinguishers in case the force field emitters fail (which happens all too often) or let's say a spare warp core held in a cargo bay should the need arise to jettison the core. Heck, I would settle for seatbelts!. We saw a ton of new experimental tech in TNG, DS9 and VOY. A lot of it can be refined and put to very good use, but holo-controls on every deck? Is it really that useful? I would trade it for a redundant shield emitter.

This still does not solve the problem of the classification of the ship as an NX. When NX is in a ship's registry, certain images come to mind: radical departure from a modular hull like the defiant, or incredibly modular approach to ship design with the prometheus. At best this is a Sovereign refit, and while it is an interesting one at that, I would rather have it labeled as such and not as a new, ground breaking design. If the federation were to be full of kitbashed ships like this, it might be nicer to stare at the background.

Oh I love a good argument. Graphics and PC vs NPC were my debates of choice and they have folded. It's good to get riled up again.

Anyway:
In the case of the holo-emitters, I suspect it's more to allow customization then practicality. I mean, if those ships were real, we certainly wouldn't be designing them the way they are.

As for the NX problem: I feel that the ship is so radically different internally that it was given the NX designation. Holographic controls instead of flat panel, exo-pod that most likely lets you fly around and directly interact with stuff (Maybe how away missions will be handled?), and a warp engine that has a cruising velocity of warp 8. All in all it looks like a slightly redone sovy shell with a completely upgraded interior. To me, that's worthy of an NX designation.

[Powernexus]

Redshirt: I'm not quoting to save space, but I do agree with what you are saying.

I suppose if I were to be someone who knew something about theoretical starship design I might be able to debate the validity of this NX91001 better, but I'm not. I like Star Trek, but I don't like it enough that I have sought out a greater understanding of the specific functionality of it's technology. To me it's a couple of good series, a couple of decent movies, and hopefully a fun game that finallly brings back exploration and adventure to the MMO genre.

That's why I'm a bit defensive on Cryptic's behalf.

My expectations may be different from yours, and I may feel as disappointed as you when it comes to the parts of the game that I personally have an avid interest in, but, as far as the ships go, I'm satisfied that they look somewhat authentic.

So I should have stayed out of this discussion from the get go. Maybe if you, and whomever else who feels strongly about this, make enough noise about it you can get the devs attention and foster some sort of change for the better. I just felt that you were giving Cryptic a hard time over something I didn't find to be important. I realize now, as I should have before, that, even though this isn't important to me, it is important to others.

[Duckdee]

Ensign Stig has just flown the NX-91001 around the Nürburgnebula in 7:15. Whatever that Hyper Impulse Drive is, it certainly makes for a fast ship.

[alex1j]

We thank you for our present!! :D

Nice looking ship worthy of a Sovereign replacement. Look forward to seeing it in game!

wait....its a replacement?:eek:

[Jezzer]

Why not be a replacement? This game is set three decades after Nemesis. Two to three decades is the most ships usually last before replacements are phased in.

[alex1j]

true true but will the ship still be in the game?

[alex1j]

nevermind because there will be new and better ships

[Whisky]

This look's awesome. Can't wait to be able to command any ship! I don't know whether i can wait this long. Arrgh

[Mr.Data]

Looks like a great ship...

Can´t wait to fly one of them....:)

[The_Padre]

Why not be a replacement? This game is set three decades after Nemesis. Two to three decades is the most ships usually last before replacements are phased in.

Well for one the Sovereign-class is a considerably newer ship class than the old Galaxy-class starships and we see a good few versions of that ship in the trailer: Original Galaxy-class (http://to.boldlyplay.com/graphics/ships/galaxyqn6.jpg). Now the average lifespan of a Galaxy-class starship itself (not the class itself) was meant to be around thirty odd years I believe. I see no reason not to have them or the Sovereign-class still bashing about by the 25th Century.

[Eidolonael]

With all of the complaining and accusations being thrown around about this ship, I would like to make a point about 'refits' and 'stealing designs' and the 'lack of creativity' by the design team:

When the AIr Force designs a new fighter and it slightly resembles previous models, are they stealing and being lazy? No. They are adapting tried and true designs to new technologies. Look at the F14, F15, F16, F18, and F22. Look at the similaritties and differences. Look at the technology in the guts. Now tell me they wouldn't do the same thing with a successful design like the Sovereign!!! If any of you actually approached this from a design standpoint instead of 'a grumpy gamer doesn't get their way with new and awesome zomg teh shipz0rs!!!' you might realize that this is only the logical step forward in ship design. Pieces of the galazy, sovereign, akira and others...

And those of you saying the armaments are rediculous? Look at the akira... look at other gunbots. They are chalk full of torpedo tubes. I, for one, am sick of all of the complaints and dev-bashing going on and had hoped this would be a more intelligent and intellectual gaming community but am quickly seeing the 'WoW' generation and their incessant clamoring for 'uberness' infesting this community like a cancerous blight.

Get in the spirit of the setting, the spirit of the game, and the spirit of a community and look at it from an in-game perspective. This type of ship refit, redesign, or upgrade is only logical where design progression is concerned. If you want something designed from the ground up, wait until they do another defiant, or another prometheus... Don't sit here and complain when they stretch the capabilities of a trusted design further than it has previously gone before...

[jer08k2]

I think that this new ship looks just like the sovergon class. This new ship just has that thing across the warp engines and and little changes but if you takes those off it looks just like it. I like the idea for the ship and the things its for but they just made it look to much like the sovergon class.:confused:

[jkidd]

Nice, very nice. Cant wait to see what this ship can do and read info on other ships as well. Great post. :cool:

[RockMax]

And they just leave you wanting more. Thanks for the update, can't wait to fly her.

[picardalpha2clearance]

Someone did their starship homework I'm very impressed, the one thing I was disappointed not to see in the specifications was a cloaking device. We as a group voted early on that we felt any treaties with the Romulans and Klingons would be null in void by this bench mark in the timeline. This due to alliances that are no longer withstanding, and the fall of the old Romulan empire. I think we voted to have cloaking technology introduced on a Cryptic survey, I would hope this all purposes deep space starship would have that classified ability, and that it was an omission on the starship specifications reference guide. :)

[Eidolonael]

I keep asking and noone has answered yet: What is the ship type of the ship in screenshot 12 in front of all the borg cubes?

[Stronin]

And those of you saying the armaments are rediculous? Look at the akira... look at other gunbots. They are chalk full of torpedo tubes.
Get in the spirit of the setting, the spirit of the game, and the spirit of a community and look at it from an in-game perspective. This type of ship refit, redesign, or upgrade is only logical where design progression is concerned. If you want something designed from the ground up, wait until they do another defiant, or another prometheus... Don't sit here and complain when they stretch the capabilities of a trusted design further than it has previously gone before...


Word bro. Seeing how the most tech specs set the Akira with 15+ Torpedo tubes these specs seem more than reasonable.

Anyway what everyone here seems to miss is of course they are going to start us off with a familiar design first. Its a way better way to introduce us to the classes. That way no body has kittens over how much they've changed everything. And you know the same people yelling about this would be yelling if it was something too different. Meh.

[Jonathan]

It's very possible that it's not the ship frame that is the experimental aspect of this ship. We've seen three prototypes - Excelsior, Defiant and Prometheus. Re-use of current technology has been constant. The Excelsior prototype bridge was pretty recognizable. Defiant and Prometheus both used LCARS. All three required frame changes to fit the experimental technology. If you were building a ship with completely new consoles then you'd probably stick with a tried and tested ship frame and configuration.

All we know is a registry number, it could end up being a Sovereign refit or Starfleet could decide that the changes in systems require that it be treated as a new class.

[mook42]

:)very nice i look forward to more info on game:)

[callsign11b]

With all of the complaining and accusations being thrown around about this ship, I would like to make a point about 'refits' and 'stealing designs' and the 'lack of creativity' by the design team:

When the AIr Force designs a new fighter and it slightly resembles previous models, are they stealing and being lazy? No. They are adapting tried and true designs to new technologies. Look at the F14, F15, F16, F18, and F22. Look at the similaritties and differences. Look at the technology in the guts. Now tell me they wouldn't do the same thing with a successful design like the Sovereign!!! If any of you actually approached this from a design standpoint instead of 'a grumpy gamer doesn't get their way with new and awesome zomg teh shipz0rs!!!' you might realize that this is only the logical step forward in ship design. Pieces of the galazy, sovereign, akira and others...

And those of you saying the armaments are rediculous? Look at the akira... look at other gunbots. They are chalk full of torpedo tubes. I, for one, am sick of all of the complaints and dev-bashing going on and had hoped this would be a more intelligent and intellectual gaming community but am quickly seeing the 'WoW' generation and their incessant clamoring for 'uberness' infesting this community like a cancerous blight.

Get in the spirit of the setting, the spirit of the game, and the spirit of a community and look at it from an in-game perspective. This type of ship refit, redesign, or upgrade is only logical where design progression is concerned. If you want something designed from the ground up, wait until they do another defiant, or another prometheus... Don't sit here and complain when they stretch the capabilities of a trusted design further than it has previously gone before...

not to rain on your parade but a better aporch would have been us navel ships...
now most navel ships in a class are the same inside and out.
but upgrades IE refits do happen better missle systems, guns, torpedoes.radar sonar ect...
now you change out a 5 inch deck gun and put in a 5 inch auto targeting auto firing deck gun revamp the radar systems update the CIC now is this a new ship or a updated IE refit of the same class of ship.
news for you its the same ship class just refited.
same as star trek ships use a sov. hull style add newer warp engine styles add a roll bar with either a sensor unit or torpedo pod. sounds and looks like a refit to me not a new ship class at all.
Mind you I like the look of it but I wouldn't have said it was a new class and not put the NX in it.
to me this is something they just slaped together at the last moment to say they gave us something special.

[Zopilote3]

So I wonder what will it take to drive that Bad Mama.:)

[callsign11b]

energizer bunny...lol

[Greathera]

This is pure conjecture on my part, but is it possible that the ship has an "NX" registry because the game itself is still "NX" and not "NCC"? Just a thought.

[Merius]

Thanks Cryptic.


Its nice to know that you are coming out with some ship designs for us. I'm excited to see more.

I'll count myself lucky if I get to command one of those NX-91001's.

However, I am looking forward to seeing the Nova Class spec's for Federation. And a few Gorn & Orion Ship Designs and specs.

I want to see what the Gorn and Orions will be using.

Best!

Merius,

[Steel-Phoenix]

Honestly, i get tired of all the bashing that i see in here, this is ONE ship people, if you don't like it, use another, secondly, the NX designation is most likely because the interior, equipment, and systems of the ship are completely different from the abilities and equipment loadout of a soveriegn, so they used the frame of a tried and true ship? yes, does that mean it IS the same ship? NO. the NX designation is most likely reflecting that. the Miranda/soyuz class is an example, the soyuz class is obviously a completely different class of ship, regardless of that the outside looks like. otherwise it would be called a Miranda refit. and sorry, but if it's a completely different class of ship, chances are it was once a prototype itself and therefore had an NX designation. I for one do not like the fact that this ship is primarily looking like an armored up Soveriegn, but I'm not going to be too concerned with it, either I'll fly it for it's abilities, or I'll use another ship. I am also not going to bash the game designers for ONE ship when there are going to be others to choose from.

[KORG]

I'm with WAXCO, WE WANT KLINGON SHIPS!!

[Eidolonael]

One thing to note as well, this ship wasn't just 'slapped' together. I've seen this one in a wallpaper that was available on the site for quite some time... It's apparently been a planned design from the beginning.

[muttw7]

# Defensive Systems: Ablative Tetraburnium Alloy Hull

Ummm one cant eat that right?

One can try.

This sound stupid, but is the Federation trying to adapt some of the Borg tech?

In Arwen's post it stated "regenerative shields on the NX-91001 can adapt to enemy weapons fire during a battle." Does that mean the Federation is trying to start adapting to fire making them superior to the Borg?

Or maybe it is just hopeful thinking........

I could be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure that regenerative shields were part of the experimental technology being tested on the Prometheus in the Voyager episode, "Message In A Bottle".

With all of the complaining and accusations being thrown around about this ship, I would like to make a point about 'refits' and 'stealing designs' and the 'lack of creativity' by the design team:

When the AIr Force designs a new fighter and it slightly resembles previous models, are they stealing and being lazy? No. They are adapting tried and true designs to new technologies. Look at the F14, F15, F16, F18, and F22. Look at the similaritties and differences. Look at the technology in the guts. Now tell me they wouldn't do the same thing with a successful design like the Sovereign!!! If any of you actually approached this from a design standpoint instead of 'a grumpy gamer doesn't get their way with new and awesome zomg teh shipz0rs!!!' you might realize that this is only the logical step forward in ship design. Pieces of the galazy, sovereign, akira and others...

Get in the spirit of the setting, the spirit of the game, and the spirit of a community and look at it from an in-game perspective. This type of ship refit, redesign, or upgrade is only logical where design progression is concerned. If you want something designed from the ground up, wait until they do another defiant, or another prometheus... Don't sit here and complain when they stretch the capabilities of a trusted design further than it has previously gone before...

Concerning the NX-91001, up until it was proclaimed the first new starship of STO, I took for granted that it was a Sovereign refit. I had no problem with that, it seemed only natural that by this time it would have undergone at least one extensive refit. Calling it an all new design class seems a bit of a stretch to me because some of the design elements just look a tad forced and not entirely natural which I'd more or less expect of a refit. There's a difference between shared design elements and a shared hull.

Another reason I was a little concerned is because when new starship classes are commissioned in the series there's usually an entire generation of starships of similar design that are released together. You can see this with the Galaxy/Nebula/New Orleans classes and the Constitution/Miranda/Constellation?/Oberth classes. It's also seen to a muddled extent later on when there was a glut of ships filling similar roles released at pretty much the same time. The Sabre/Steamrunner, Intrepid/Norway, Sovereign/Akira/Nova, and the Prometheus all share many very similar elements that set them apart from ships of other generations.

It's not that we don't appreciate the design or are "dev bashing", it's just that this doesn't exactly give us a new design template to work with. There were a number of design features that started popping up in the newer ship designs in the different series' that can be expanded upon to take ship design in a newer direction. As someone said earlier, a move toward more of an arrowhead shaped secondary hull was sort of being implied in the series. The Defiant and Sabre have some unconventional (for Trek) design elements that could go in another direction.

My personal favorite fan design isn't really much of a departure, yet at the same time it's highly original (IMO) and certainly the sort of thing a new generation of ships could be built around.

http://www.jestertrek.com/coro2400/index2.html#coronado

p.s. You'll have to do some navigating to see the different pics, that's the main page.

[Admiral-Darren-Wright]

I can understand what people mean and i can see that a new class of ship may be cool and that the NX-91001 may be a Soveriegn refit in disguise but the ship is over 680 metres long so this is going to be the if not one of the Big main Combat vessels in the Game (for the federation) and the details that weve been given are very new and very good to get our hands on and STO in many ways cant make everyone happy at once since theres so much they dont want to release about the game yet.

As soon as they release pictures of the new Klingon Vessel (which has been reported that there creating now by the way) then people will be asking for the pictures of the new Romulan Vessel and then people will be wanting pictures of the Borg and then People will be wanting planetry landing slides and then people will be wanting other alien vessels and trade ships and some pictures of possible player built star bases (pos) and so on... so they cant release all that

In many ways if you give a mouse a piece of cheese it will want a bowl of milk so them giving this is possibly the safest way of them to show us anything and they didnt really have to show us anything so im very gratefull and i am huge Voyager fan and i have always wanted to get my self an Intrepid, But me and a few members of our fleet are now thinking about having the NX-91001 ...we shall see.

Nx-91001 = Eats Borg Spheres for Breakfast





If you read this youll see i told the Klingon fans out there that it was reported that Cryptic have a team working on the Klingon Vessels from now until March so you should have your Klingon Vessel sometime between now and then im sure ! As there taking there time im sure the Ship will also be a predator and Since in this time line of the Game im sure they have a way against the Borg also as well as well as the Federation !

March is not to far away so just think how good it must be if there taking that time on her ..RAISES SHIELDS ON MY NX-91001

[swishness]

Looks increble loving the upgrades! can't wait to seee the rest of the fleet battlecrusers maybe

[Rivaris]

very nice ship cant wait for the game.

[Nelson]

Thanks for the update on the ship design but whats its name?

[bcarrigan63@charter.net]

Very nice hope to fly one someday, thanks for the info.

[Foss]

Thanks for the update on the ship design but whats its name?
And, What class of ship?

Sovereign refit ?

[SenshiBat]

Weee.. The fire is lit boyz.. waitng to Command the Newest ship in the fleet.. have a lotto draw for it..
NX 1st of class.. exciting.. but what do i get for a cheap little starter escort for it to survive..?
I want to see the realistic starter ships.. jazz them up parade them out and see who salutes?

[Rekkert]

I really like the ship design, but honestly, in 30 years Starfleet's most advanced ship is still a Sovereign-class? Variant, refit or whatever it's still a Sovereign, (like the Saratoga and Lantree were Mirandas)
In 30 years Starfleet must have built a new ship class. No ship stayed as the most advanced one for that long ever, the only ship that brakes that rule is the Constitution-class (2245-2290), however, according to some semi-canon references the Federation-class was the most advanced class during the 23th century.

I repeat, I like the ship desing, I don't like its role as Starfleet's most advanced ship.

Sorry for my bad english. :o

[Paulo999]

I really like the ship design, but honestlly, in 30 Strafleet's most advanced ship is still a Sovereign-class? Variant, refit or whatever it's still a Sovereign, (like the Saratoga and Lantree were Mirandas)
In 30 years Starfleet must have build a new ship class, no ship class stay as the most advanced one for that long ever, the only ship that brakes that rule is the Constitution-class (2245-2290), however acording to some semi-canon references the Federation-class was the most advanced class during the 23th century.

I repeat, I like the ship desing, I don't like it's position as Starfleet's most advanced ship.

Sorry for my bad english. :o

Miranda class lasted from whenenver Wraith of Kahn came out to 2378 (endgame)

still cant wait to see if the nebula class is still up and about in sto :D

[ob1klone]

I have been away for the past week and I missed this. I am kind of ho hum with this as a Christmas gift. I liked the idea, but we new this ship was in the game already. They could have given us something we didn't know.:(

[ArchonX]

Its not being called a refit genius. Maybe if you read what everyone was talking about you would have noticed that they were saying it should be called a refit because IT IS A REFIT!

Well, Genius, if you would have read the pages then you would see that people are complaining about the general design of the ship rather than its designation. They are complaining that Cryptic didn't do a good job of designing a true NX prototype vessel. They don't want a Sovereign-refit and thats the point. What im trying to say is that Cryptic is full within their right to design a Sovereign-refit if they want to regardless of what the fanboys want. I agree that it should be a refit and that it is still a good looking ship whereas the fanboys don't like any part of it. And I am issuing a challenge to the fanboy community; Find me an instance where a refit has used an NX designation, please.

[Rekkert]

Miranda class lasted from whenenver Wraith of Kahn came out to 2378 (endgame)

still cant wait to see if the nebula class is still up and about in sto :D

I know, but they never were the Federation most advanced ship.

[Tylor_Liles]

maybe it will be the ENTERPRISE class. be about time for that class right? and bring DATA back please!!!!!!

[ToadMonkey]

I really enjoy the updates you provide. Look forward to the next one.

[Powermaster]

Easy fix imo add a new designation make it NXX or NCCX or even NCNX give it a back story explaining the new class designation maybe a system of naming for ships that have new and experimental tech inside. They could then add to the existing lore. I think that might be best then they could come up with some much more radical tech and as long as it is well defined in their new cannon just tie it well into the story line and make sure it is believable. I would buy it if they completely flesh out the backstory with every conceivable detail such as ;Why this was needed, Who brought this concept to Starfleet? When? How was this going to be implemented ,what are the differences in the research that brought about this? Maybe they could have a secondary research division that received new commission and has now be granted a designation for ships with tech they develop etc.... That way you can still have ships with totally new hulls classified as NX and you can have the new experimental tech tested on older, stable, solid and widely used ships.

--- Then again I am sooo NOT a Hardcore Tech Trekkie love the shows seen many of them from Kirk to Janeway but i am much more interested in story as long as that is not busted up without very good explanation i am a happy fan :D

-- I also am a fan of living, evolving lore (not so much static rigid cannon) so i could easily accept the changes but i can also see some others who would not.... :(

--Having said that i also believe that continuity of story should be maintained if that means the book and tv series and movie writers and/or concept designers have to be consulted or brought into the project then "Make it so..."

[jdunbar9]

* Computer Systems:
* Holoemitter Trans-Deck Array System
* Holographic Consoles
* Astrometric Laboratories
* Bioneural Circuitry

I don't know if anyone mentioned or explained these, but I'm most interested in the introduction of holographic consoles. And I'm wondering how exactly those work? Are they as they sound, some holographic representation of a computer console or are they something that can only be used in conjunction with the holographic doctors and command holograms? If anyone has any insight or great theories please let me know.

[LordDave]

I don't know if anyone mentioned or explained these, but I'm most interested in the introduction of holographic consoles. And I'm wondering how exactly those work? Are they as they sound, some holographic representation of a computer console or are they something that can only be used in conjunction with the holographic doctors and command holograms? If anyone has any insight or great theories please let me know.

My guess? Bridge control customization, ie. make your ship look the way you want it to look. Want TMP bridge? Go for it. Want an intrepid bridge? Ok.

Or it could just be a 3D popup screen or something. Guess we'll have to actually play the game to find out eh?

[RyceSTO]

Didn't list the crew size :( That's a pretty interesting stat IMHO, and was looking for it.

Cool lookin'/soundin' ship, though

[crandall31]

I am of the opinion that this ship should carry the designation "Explorer Class" as it is simple and follows the main purpose of the ship well. This type of ship is exactly what I was hoping for as my flagship for the fleet I am commanding. I was considering Galaxy or Nebula out of the existing ST classes, but this is a nice evolution of those multi-role designs (Soverign was more battleship oriented in my opinion).

I would have to think this will come in good use as primarily an exploration vessel but one that can defend outlying resources and territories as well. Great job on the concept, STO devs. Keep up the good work. I do hope to see some role specific craft at some point in the near future though. I know there are plenty of role specific fleets out there.

[jdunbar9]

My guess? Bridge control customization, ie. make your ship look the way you want it to look. Want TMP bridge? Go for it. Want an intrepid bridge? Ok.

Or it could just be a 3D popup screen or something. Guess we'll have to actually play the game to find out eh?

That makes sense. I could see both happening in the Trek Universe. I'm leaning more toward the 3D pop-up screen, but I could see Starfleet having to disguise some of their control panels for espionage or classified purposes. Good shot in the dark LordDave :D.

[k.mpok]

Someone did their starship homework I'm very impressed, the one thing I was disappointed not to see in the specifications was a cloaking device. We as a group voted early on that we felt any treaties with the Romulans and Klingons would be null in void by this bench mark in the timeline. This due to alliances that are no longer withstanding, and the fall of the old Romulan empire. I think we voted to have cloaking technology introduced on a Cryptic survey, I would hope this all purposes deep space starship would have that classified ability, and that it was an omission on the starship specifications reference guide. :)

And that vote wasn't one sided tho. Around a 50/50. If we Klingons and the Romulans start giving cloak tech to ever single Fed ship then that has a chance to become slightly OP or just another redundant system.

Maybe the smaller stealthier classes have cloak.

(I still say no on giving cloak to Feds if anyone was wondering. hehe)

This is pure conjecture on my part, but is it possible that the ship has an "NX" registry because the game itself is still "NX" and not "NCC"? Just a thought.

This is what I am guessing also. Why at this stage they would slap any name on a ship would be counter-productive if they never end up using the ship.

I'm with WAXCO, WE WANT KLINGON SHIPS!!

Yup. With luck they will hurry up and give us alittle something. hehe at this point they can even give us a new version of an old design (K'Vort or BoP) and we Klingons would be happy.

I don't know if anyone mentioned or explained these, but I'm most interested in the introduction of holographic consoles. And I'm wondering how exactly those work? Are they as they sound, some holographic representation of a computer console or are they something that can only be used in conjunction with the holographic doctors and command holograms? If anyone has any insight or great theories please let me know.

Maybe it is a Matric Reloaded (Zion docking command) type thing but something where you don't have to plug into.
Zion Holo Command (http://cm.brainsfactory.org/images/obj/zion_control_interface.jpg)

[Fablewin]

All I'm going to say is - Cooooooool!

That's all there is to say really...

[RebelWolf13]

The "NX" most likely stands for the fact that its still experimental and not yet proven to be given a proper ident number. My guess is it will get a classification after the game launches and a few of us Feds put it through strenuous "testing" in deep space. :D

[USS_Paragon]

/Drool...

Merry Christmas me!

[TookyG]

Why are so many people thrilled about a rehash of the Sovereign class? This game sounds more and more like a fandom piece of crap all the time. "Hyper Impulse! Ooooh!" Hyper crap is more like it.

[ErinDarkstar]

nice ship can't wait to go :D

[Sloan_S31]

They can't seriously be calling this ship a "new" ship... It's an EXISTING SHIP! How do you ripoff an existing design, add some sutff to it, and call it a new ship?

I really don't mind how it looks but it is still a sovereign, thus it is a Sovereign-class Refit, not a brand new ship class.If this is to be a brand new ship class, you mean to tell me that after 30 years, Starfleet R&D's starship design lineage has NOT evolved? No sleeker, larger, more efficient design but dig up some old designs and put new stuff on it?

Again, I'm not bashing the ship's design itself, I find it to look like an appropriate refit for the Sovy save for the strut running accross the nacelles but I'm open to new things as long as they're reasonable!

At the same time, Refits of existing ship classes are exactly what we need too, in addition to brand new designs, since existing ones are all going to be older by the time of STO.

Please excuse my ranting but to "canonista" like me, and obviously a few others, this is a Star Trek rule that is so soo sooooo obvious. It's like they're saying that 2+2=7, to put it in context.....
So let's just stop arguing, break it down, simply the whole thing and close the matter:

Correctly> Designate this ship Sovereign-class Refit, NCC-(whatever the recent # is), and next entirely original design they come up with can be labeled NX-91001

[Cpt.Medo]

Pretty impressive ship. I am curious how it will handle in combat against the enemy. I am a little bit disappointed that the ship can't go faster then warp 10. With all he improvements made to the ship you would think that it would at least brake war 12. However, that is the only negative. Now they need to release a video with the ship in action.

[LordDave]

They can't seriously be calling this ship a "new" ship... It's an EXISTING SHIP! How do you ripoff an existing design, add some sutff to it, and call it a new ship?

I really don't mind how it looks but it is still a sovereign, thus it is a Sovereign-class Refit, not a brand new ship class.If this is to be a brand new ship class, you mean to tell me that after 30 years, Starfleet R&D's starship design lineage has NOT evolved? No sleeker, larger, more efficient design but dig up some old designs and put new stuff on it?

Again, I'm not bashing the ship's design itself, I find it to look like an appropriate refit for the Sovy save for the strut running accross the nacelles but I'm open to new things as long as they're reasonable!

At the same time, Refits of existing ship classes are exactly what we need too, in addition to brand new designs, since existing ones are all going to be older by the time of STO.

Please excuse my ranting but to "canonista" like me, and obviously a few others, this is a Star Trek rule that is so soo sooooo obvious. It's like they're saying that 2+2=7, to put it in context.....
So let's just stop arguing, break it down, simply the whole thing and close the matter:

Correctly> Designate this ship Sovereign-class Refit, NCC-(whatever the recent # is), and next entirely original design they come up with can be labeled NX-91001

It's only the first ship we've seen. No telling what other ships Starfleet R&D have made.

Next, NX is experimental. This doesn't mean an experimental body so much as an experimental ship. Judging by the specifications, it's not a refit and can't be a refit. I understand why you'd think so, but you are missing a key point: Refit implies that the technology being put in is not experimental. If I were to refit a sovy, I know that everything I put into it is going to work mostly bug free. However if I have brand new, never before tested innards (and I'm not talking just an upgrade of say... the computer core) it's an experimental ship.

Now granted, the components, to me, don't sound like it's a huge leap, but on the other hand, it probably is, technologically.

[LordDave]

Pretty impressive ship. I am curious how it will handle in combat against the enemy. I am a little bit disappointed that the ship can't go faster then warp 10. With all he improvements made to the ship you would think that it would at least brake war 12. However, that is the only negative. Now they need to release a video with the ship in action.

Warp 10 is the limit. At warp 10 you pass through all points in the universe simultaneously. Last time it was done, Paris turned into a lizard.