A duplicate thread: A plead for a non-worldwide server!

[USS_Parallax]

The more I think about it the more I don't want a worldwide server. I've posted about this before and shall post about it again! I've played on worldwide servers few of them. They're... difficult. For one you often run into people that don't speak your language. You want a healer? Probably easy with a world wide server. You want him/her to understand you and know what the crap you guys are doing? That might be a little harder.

In-game translation tools are NEVER good enough. Heck, the best online translators aren't either (learn another language and learn why). It's just a pain.

PLUS lag problems. Not for me... I'd likely live close enough to the server (I could freakin' drive to Cryptic). However what about people from Australia? What about people from the other side of the world? I've never seen a worldwide server quite good enough even using trick servers (complicated) and all types of things to try and reduce lag.

Also I would NEVER want to see instancing of normally non-instanced zones. There should only be ONE version of DS9! I hate how MMOs have recently been getting into the habit of mirroring ares based on population. I play an MMO! I want to see everyone who's actually there! (this isn't meant against instance dungeons and pvp things which are very needed)

Really, if you're on the other side of the world in a worldwide server you're screwed.


However if you MUST have a worldwide server... make a few available to everyone. Just a few servers located in various parts of the world open to anyone with any copy of the game at any location. THEN give us more standard servers based on location and language. Maybe a server that's a little less stingy (one with the US and CA and another with US, CA and some of Europe), I don't care.

I just hate language barriers. I hate lag. I hate worldwide servers. The idea behind them is good. Everyone from everywhere working together is very Trek... but I don't give a crap. It's so far never worked quite right in any game screwing someone or everyone. Heck, a few games lie about their worldwide servers to make them sound better and only sell their game in like 2 countries.

[ParkerHayden]

I agree, a worldwide server (or one big server instead of several "smaller" ones) is annoying, in my opinion.

The primary problem, though, is that Gemini Fleet, and several other large fleets around the web waiting for STO I'm sure, have members from all around the world instead of just in North America. Gemini Fleet alone has several Americans, two or three Canadians, two Australians, two or three from the Netherlands, two or three in England, etc, etc.

[Fernos]

Agree, I currently play EvE and one big server has it's issues, lately the big insult is "shut it American" Euro players are very, very snarky of late and I would rather not deal with that nonsense.

[hinaito]

You all have good points. But we have to remember that Star Trek had a lot of people from all around the world. I played EVE once. I liked it for what it was. I believe what Cryptic cares about most is making this game fun and sticking to what we remember of Star Trek. I see the pros and cons of World-wide server, and the pros and cons of seperate servers. But eventually.... we'll see what there choice is.

[Vicelance]

What I would like is multiple servers where you could jump your character between servers like Runescape which has different servers for members non-members and some for certain activities like minigames or Roleplaying.

[Vulcan_Sipho]

it has been said we will use same serversetup as champions online and city of heros b4 that and they are 1large server. i prefer 1 large server. with smaller server u are limited on how many people can join a server which means fleets can be spread all over several servers a crappy idea... please cryptic keep worldwide server.

[Derthric]

While it makes sense especially from a linguistic and logistical sense, I enjoy meeting people from around the globe. Several of the best people in my guild in WoW are Aussies, and we have a few who are scattered around the world. I do favor the smaller but more server route but lets not limit server access by location, especially when maybe i see more west coasters when I play because of my schedule, but i will end up in an east coast server.

And the only linguistic problem I have faced in any MMO has actually come from primary spanish speakers who live in the US. Though I credit them for trying their best with English in game sometimes it was easier to get a translation from someone in game who knew the language better than I.

[arakkis]

In the spirit of unity that Star Trek represents, I think the game should absolutely be on one server. Open your minds people.

[Ozymandias]

In the spirit of unity that Star Trek represents, I think the game should absolutely be on one server. Open your minds people.

I agree with that. I thought the one server idea in EVE was a good one.

[Trekkie]

Honestly, although this sort of thing can definitely be a problem, I still support the idea of one large server since players can always choose to not group with people that speak different languages.

[k.mpok]

My main concern with one world server is OVER population.

Increased lag is a tough one to deal with for many ppl. Also I am hoping to get that feel of vastness. It wouldn't feel right that while exploring the outer reaches of space if you ran into another ship every 30-40 secs.

hehe still holding out hope for an official/unofficial RP server as well. :D

[Abadatha]

My only arguement is Final Fantasy 11, they have an amazing in game translator.

[USS_Parallax]

My only arguement is Final Fantasy 11, they have an amazing in game translator.

You're on drugs. They have a horrible suicide inducing translator not unlike just sticking the spinning end of a blender into your mouth and talking with it turned on.

[Williamshatner]

it has been said we will use same serversetup as champions online and city of heros b4 that and they are 1large server..

um...City of Heroes is not one server?

and...while I have no problem with one large server, I DO like having multiple servers. One goes down, you go jet around on your char on another server, waiting for your main to come back up. If you have a world server, people are still going to be in different time zones, etc. Even on one big server. If you have multiple servers, same thing>? So what's the difference? Now, do I think they should have Euro servers and American servers or what not? No, but I don't think one big server(unless it WAS divided among countries) would have any more impact on game play than multiple would.

Edit: If by world server you mean that anyone from around the world can log into STO servers at anytime, then nm, I'm dumb. Didn't click right away.

[knix]

I don't think splitting servers by location is necessary. EnB had world wide servers, stationed in the US, and as far as I know, the lag I experienced on occation was not due to distance, though I live in europe. Language wasn't a problem either. Everyone spoke English. If they want to split servers by language though, I have nothing against that. I'll be choosing an English-speaking server if they do. What I would like them to do is split the servers by type (PvE, PvP and RP).

[eNDIE]

Not a big deal to me aslong as people has the option to create their char on any continent there are several guilds/fleets that has members all over the world.

[Duras]

NO, ONE SERVER

I want an oppertunity to game with those into the Star Trek universe. I think servers based on geological locacation is restrictive and creates division.
We should play globaly and endorse the english language.

One server, one community...

[Sarevok]

I do prefer 1 server. But if they find another way to make the game fun, I'll play. :D

[0wl]

it has been said we will use same serversetup as champions online and city of heros b4 that and they are 1large server. i prefer 1 large server. with smaller server u are limited on how many people can join a server which means fleets can be spread all over several servers a crappy idea... please cryptic keep worldwide server.

Agreed, and to be honest Star Trek "fans" are a different breed altogether eventhough there will undoubtedly be issues between players at some point! I just cannot imagine this game turning out into a hate game between different nations and/or countries!

[wyvia]

i think 1 server is a good idea but in the ist week or 2 there will be a problem with about 50000 people trying to start in the same area. maybe if they took it down to 5 servers or 10 max then it would probably work better

[Dahakra]

Multiple server's separating the entire community into what? Different Trek universes?
Hell NO!!
If you don't want to play with people from other parts of the world then don't play MMO's.

/Rejected

- Dahakra

[USS_Parallax]

Multiple server's separating the entire community into what? Different Trek universes?
Hell NO!!
If you don't want to play with people from other parts of the world then don't play MMO's.

/Rejected

- Dahakra

What? They do that in like all but a few MMOs. They do it in CoH, WoW, and basically most MMOs out there.

Your logic is rejected.

[Dahakra]

What? They do that in like all but a few MMOs. They do it in CoH, WoW, and basically most MMOs out there.

Your logic is rejected.

And if every other MMO jumped off a cliff would you want STO to do the same?

I've played a MMO from a single worldwide server that works pretty well. My team (guild/clan/fleet/ w/e) was comprised of people from no less than a dozen countries on five continents. For several of whom English wasn't their native tongue. Pretty much every other team was the same.
We found our cultural differences very much a positive thing. Moreover the fact we played from different timezones meant there was always someone around to chat to, go leveling with, defend or come to your defense.
I'll cite you a personal example:
I myself am Irish and I consider a Australian fellow to be among my closest on-line buddies. Even given our obvious geographical distance we still managed to play substantial amount of hours at the same time. Cooperating on building projects, sharing resources/ equipment / loot etc., even on several occasions sharing in-game galaxies (a player can actually own a star system generally called a galaxy). All that as-well as leveling together and conducting "raids" as it where.
None of that would have been possible had we been forced onto a separate server and never given the opportunity to meet.

So once again /Rejected

- Dahakra

[Fernos]

Agreed, and to be honest Star Trek "fans" are a different breed altogether eventhough there will undoubtedly be issues between players at some point! I just cannot imagine this game turning out into a hate game between different nations and/or countries!

A year ago I would have agreed with you and I would have railed against any Xenophobia, but today young Europeans for the most part loath any and all things American, I said American and not United States because they give my Canadian friends that travel to the UK and Germany just as hard of a time as they do the College student from Nevada and it’s ten times worse when we are talking about anonymity on international servers.

I understand the hate, it’s irrational and misplaced but I understand it, that doesn't mean I want my subscription to include being marked as the great Satan of the modern world.

Local western based servers please. :(

[TheMasterpiece]

This is why we have fleets. Youre fleet will speak your language and there will be no problem

[marscentral]

A year ago I would have agreed with you and I would have railed against any Xenophobia, but today young Europeans for the most part loath any and all things American, I said American and not United States because they give my Canadian friends that travel to the UK and Germany just as hard of a time as they do the College student from Nevada and it’s ten times worse when we are talking about anonymity on international servers.

I understand the hate, it’s irrational and misplaced but I understand it, that doesn't mean I want my subscription to include being marked as the great Satan of the modern world.

Local western based servers please. :(

I want a global server if possible. The joys of the interweb means that I frequently talk with people from other countries, here for instance. I'm British myself, most of you aren't. Part of the Trek experience is the number of humans who are from different nationalities besides America; Sulu, Chekov, Scotty, Picard, O'Brien, Bashir, Reed (I probably missed some). You will get griefers, and if it's not nationality they pick on, it'll be something else. Most people are cool wherever they're from, but every country has it's idiots too. That's what report and ignore buttons are for.

The other advantage to global servers is, no matter what time you play, people will be online.

[eNDIE]

just do it like swg kontinent based servers but you can create a char att anyone you like , wow broke a very nice guild i was in because people needed a us version to play on us servers and eu klients to play in europe. People that dont speak english usualy stick to the people who can speak their language so it realy isnt any problem.

[marscentral]

People that dont speak english usualy stick to the people who can speak their language so it realy isnt any problem.

I noticed that on the English EU servers for CoX. While the French and Germans had their own servers, the Spanish and Italian players didn't, so they played on the English ones but tended to keep to themselves. There were loads of Italian supergroups on Defiant server. It wasn't always the case though, I have grouped with people and neither of us understand each other very well.

[Duras]

The MMO I play is on a global server. The same thing happens thier. Players group with the same language.
It does demonstate our need for human familiarities even within the virtual world.
I suspect the same thing may happen on STO, but we are together under whatever faction they choose.
Ie. Federation, Klingon and Cardassian ect,.

These games often reflect our societies structure in many ways and can also unite us in many of the same ways. They are also a good means of global communication with other sci-fi fans, like myself.

So I support a global server...

[Plantheid]

definately local servers, as soon as america comes online the game becomes unplayable in the uk because if lag issues, server connection problems and too many connections, theres a reason wow and a ton of other MMO's have local servers, theyre stupid not to do it, alot of stuff in the beta is caused by connection issues, i;m not paying a subscription for a game just to not be able to play it at a certain time of day, i want to be able to play when i damn well want. if ppl really want to play on non-local servers they can create chars on a different server.

end rant :P