The Path to 2409: 2383 (December 18, 2008)

[nhamlett]

We have a new timeline update for you, just in time for the holiday season! Starfleet Intelligence continues to gather reports of unrest on Romulus. Praetor Tal’aura enacts food rationing and strict limits on replicator use on the homeworld, saying that the empire’s resources must be reserved to support the military’s campaign against Donatra and the breakaway Imperial Romulan State.


Read more here! (http://www.startrekonline.com/timeline/2383)

[Waxco]

Neat, thanks for the update, i want to know more about the Klingons!!

[curtst]

As usual, such a great read. I can't wait for more!

Thanks.

[Genex]

Amazing, I loved the idea of the 'soong' institute, nice tribute to Data and his maker

[Angelphoenix12]

very cool update :D, cant wait for more :D

[Varrangian]

Awesome thanks! I can see the beginnings of some interesting threads being woven here.

[CaptainHoliday]

can't wait to read more about the The Doctor's legal case and the development of mobile emitter technology. The question of using holographic crew is in question here.

With mobile emitters, we will see many holograhic characters. Without them, they will be limited.

I wonder if the Soong Institute will research creating androids like Data.

[Kuhr]

Fascinating..

[willriker09]

Very nice, I like how the Romulan civil war is becoming slightly less dominating in these timeline updates. It is interesting, but I enjoy the other things going on way more.

And I love the Cardassians, I hope the advocates of Hibitian ways win out over their aggressive rivals and join the Federation. This is still a big question, how will the Romulans and Cardassians be implemented into the game/future expansions. As their own factions or will each respectively join either the Klingons or the Federation?

So it looks like we might be able to have holographic characters after all as the mobile emitter is going into mass production. We'll see where that leads.

The Klingons and the Federation are starting to split, I think the Romulan question is a good reason for why that would start to happen. Klingons are going back to their conqueror ways, the way it probably should be.

I liked it, thanks Cryptic!

[Cpt.Medo]

Looks like we can look forward to a all out war between the Federation and the Klingons. I also hope that Donatra's fleet wins during to civilian war as she would be a great ally to the Federation.

[Athach]

Nice...Way to go Martok on the Duel for Honor!!!!!!

[Traynor94]

Awesome update, things are really starting to heat up... lets see how long Martok can stay on top... he's clearly losing support in the council... very interesting about the Romulans too.

[Stonez]

We are looking at quadrant wide civil wars. With all the factions splintering, we could see unions between different species and all sorts of shenanigans...:eek:

[Kirov]

First of all,how come the Federation is virtually the only power which doesn't have civil unrest? To be honest the idea of the Federation always being perfect has slightly ruined Star Trek for me...
Secondly, what's happening with the Dominion,Borg,Species 8472...these powers are way too aggressive to have stayed quiet for so long...
Other than these 2 minor observations,I like how the timeline is coming though, keep up the good work ;)

[picardalpha2clearance]

Now that is an update! good job guys!

[Vicelance]

Nice updates, Though I still wonder how having holographic crew members will work in game I hope that we can have them.

The Cardassians are starting to go back to a peaceful religion? Does that mean they will be siding with the Federation?

Depending on how these civil wars turn out in the Cardassian Union and Romulan Empire, these factions could become friendly to the Federation, which I hope they don't or if they do I still want them to have their own faction and not become Federation members like the Ferengi.

I'd like to hear more about the Dominion and what they have been up to also the status of the Borg since Picard and Seven are working on Anti-Borg weapons will we be hearing from them soon.

[jwick4471]

Honor duels.. excellent.

[Loekii]

Neat, thanks for the update, i want to know more about the Klingons!!

Here, here.

I especially want to hear about the absorption of non-Klingon into their fleet.


First of all,how come the Federation is virtually the only power which doesn't have civil unrest? To be honest the idea of the Federation always being perfect has slightly ruined Star Trek for me...
Secondly, what's happening with the Dominion,Borg,Species 8472...these powers are way too aggressive to have stayed quiet for so long...
Other than these 2 minor observations,I like how the timeline is coming though, keep up the good work ;)

I think the 'civil' unrest in the federation is more parallel to the unrest seen in say the US congress, etc -- there are differences, but nothing to the point of civil unrest, war, secession, etc. I certainly do hope that the smaller 'Missions/Quests/Story lines' do show some of the 'dirt and grim' with in Federation Politics, etc.

As for the other Big Players, it is strange how 'quiet' the stories appear. I think there should be some mention in each update, as to remind us they have not disappeared off the star map.

[Trekkie]

This was one of the better storyline updates and I cannot wait to se how things progress from here! Thank you for posting this!

[wonka2112]

Interesting development with Cardassia indeed. I can see a struggle in it's infancy beginning to emerge, whereby a civil war could unfold here. Especially if the populous wants this horrid ancient religion, and those that still yearn for the "true way". Which I am whole heartedly in agreement with.

[Kirov]

Here, here.

I especially want to hear about the absorption of non-Klingon into their fleet.




I think the 'civil' unrest in the federation is more parallel to the unrest seen in say the US congress, etc -- there are differences, but nothing to the point of civil unrest, war, secession, etc. I certainly do hope that the smaller 'Missions/Quests/Story lines' do show some of the 'dirt and grim' with in Federation Politics, etc.

As for the other Big Players, it is strange how 'quiet' the stories appear. I think there should be some mention in each update, as to remind us they have not disappeared off the star map.

Well,the Maquis left the Federation and even engaged Starfleet in some skirmishes, plus we have Section 31 which never had a problem with breaking ,,human's right''. I too hope that Cryptic integrates them in some form or the other in the game.
As for the non-Klingon races, joining the Empire doesn't surprise me as they are quite violent but what I'm curios about is the hierarchy in giving commands. I can see a Klingon allied with a Gorn but taking orders from him would be kind of weird. Plus,the Orion definitely don't have the sense of honor that defines the Klingons.

[Frost-Storm]

Still no news on Picard and the Borg. I like whats happening with the Romulans and rift between the feds and klings.

[Samurai02008]

Well i cant say I like where the idea of the Klingon-Federation drift is going. But I will say that the problems on romulas are really peaking my interest. And yes please put something in about Picard and the Borg. I want to know what the schemeing Borg are up to. Well thats all I have for now. So hows everyone doing? I heard about what happened to Majel. Quite frankly I am sorry to see her go.

[r2data]

First of all,how come the Federation is virtually the only power which doesn't have civil unrest? To be honest the idea of the Federation always being perfect has slightly ruined Star Trek for me...
Secondly, what's happening with the Dominion,Borg,Species 8472...these powers are way too aggressive to have stayed quiet for so long...
Other than these 2 minor observations,I like how the timeline is coming though, keep up the good work ;)

Could it just be that the Federation citizens are content with what's going on in their space? That said, the Klingons also don't have civil unrest. Civil unrest would mean the public taking up arms, making protests or causing disturbances. None of that was stated to have happened in the Klingon Empire, only the restless uprising of Council hardliners. For that matter, neither do the Cardassians. Emergence of a religious sect which is looked upon unfavourably by an existing sect does not in itself constitute 'civil unrest'. If, however, your broad definition of civil unrest includes all these, then you could also count the furor over the mobile emitter as 'civil unrest'.

As for the other powers, have you noticed they're all in places far far away, The Borg and Species 8472 being in the Delta Quadrant (arguably) and the Dominion in the Gamma Quadrant? I would think that the Borg, having been dealt a serious setback in the destruction of their transwarp hub as well as Unimatrix One, will have to regroup and rebuild before they can expand into the Alpha Quadrant. Species 8472, live in fluidic space and with the nano-torpedoes Janeway developed, would be hesitant to invade the Alpha Quadrant. They were never that aggressive to begin with, only attacking when provoked by the Borg. The Dominion surrendered to the Federation although much of their military might was retained. I wouldn't think the Federation would look too kindly on them sending many ships through the wormhole. In any case, I always thought it was the Cardassians egging them on that led the Dominion to invade.

I think this was a great article. An excellent job giving the highlights of the major Alpha Quadrant powers,

P.S. Should it be 'capitol' or 'capital' in the first sentence of the second paragraph? I'd always thought riots were carried out on the streets of cities, in which case capital would apply. If it's capitol, it would imply that the rioting was confined to the Senate buildings.

[jonleach]

I love the Update it is drawing me more and more into the possibilities that could be happening.

[SenshiBat]

Greetings.
I am intrigued to see what has become of my adopted empire during my last fleet deployment.
It is troubling to see such a desperate situation developing in the region of Romulus.. i keep a residance in.
My grocer had told me that the shipment was simply delayed by the solar wind storm around Vulcan.
But when she overlooked my decorated uniform and ask me for a ration card it was simply too much.
Now i must enforce discipline on my shore leave crew. Then petition command for supplies.
Then i encountered a interesting chess player claiming to be a Vulcan trader in the park near my villa.
At least he appreciated my Condor Borg defence service device with crossed sword and diamonds.

[Kelesh]

"However, the fact that the matter went to the full Council for a vote is enough of an affront for Qo’noS to temporarily recall its ambassador to the Federation. "

Touchy huh ?

[Cyberdurc22]

It would be nice to have holographic crew on the bridge with their holo emitters, as well as having fully sentient androids...but what I really want to know is will there be any other rescued Borg, like 7 of 9..I'd love to have a former Borg within my crew.

[dinendae]

"However, the fact that the matter went to the full Council for a vote is enough of an affront for Qo’noS to temporarily recall its ambassador to the Federation. "

Touchy huh ?


Both factions seem to have different ideas of what alliance means. The Federation thinks that it means they support each other in defense. The Klingons believe it means they support each other in defense or attacking. The Klingons are angry because their 'allies' not only are not supporting them, but are also insulting them. Given the differences in societies and the two different viewpoints, it was only a matter of time before a rift between the Federation and Empire happened again.

[Fvillha]

Great update Awen, and so far the romulan side of the story fits very well with what I would expect from all the Star Trek Novels I've read, especially the fleets defecting to Empress Donatra's side, the USS Titan series seems to indicate a large group of fleets that supported Donatra and her mentor Suran prior to her being declared Empress (which wasn't totally her decision).

[SenshiBat]

It would be a nice item for crew training and development to have a classic officers holo emitted proctor at hand. or to "fleash" out a crew in a tutorial. Star Trek On line Academy.. the first deployment...has a nice ring to it. but we digress.
The turmoil posses many boil over risk as a meddling in romulan internal affairs could force a war against a common foe. even the imperials will regreat the federation occupation of romulas?
its bad for buisness and the status quo is very much in lacking now days.
was it yelsen that rallied people due to lack of vodka rations..
if they cant get us Romulan Ale then what good is the government? I'd claim to be vulcan and move to argentinious? ya that forgotten provance..im really a loyal officer.. im just takeign myship to shore leave on orion..organia or shermans planet..good rate of exchange from feringi travel service..here the brochure

[John]

some really great stuff and the last bit sounds good also hope the doctor wins his rights

[The_Padre]

I'm guessing that when all out aggressive action breaks out between the Federation and the Klingons the empire will be lead by a new Chancellor of the Klingon High Council? I can't believe that Martok would go to war with Starfleet, it just doesn't quite fit his personality. This leaves only two other options, he is either killed and replaced by someone else or he and Worf (assuming he is still the Federation ambassador) have to flee after an internal conflict within the High Council. I'm hoping it's the latter myself.

[IanD967]

wow :D i cannot wait to explore this new world your creating heh

hope to hear something relating to B4 soon *hint hint* :D

[0wl]

Amazing to read that all we know is falling to pieces!

Great story line thank you! :)

[OzzyNF]

coming together nicely.

[crazyeddie1564]

Only 26 more years to go! I cannot wait.

[Tabby_Cat]

Keep them comming!

[fireraven]

[QUOTE=r2data;300893]
Species 8472, live in fluidic space and with the nano-torpedoes Janeway developed, would be hesitant to invade the Alpha Quadrant. They were never that aggressive to begin with, only attacking when provoked by the Borg. The Dominion surrendered to the Federation although much of their military might was retained. I wouldn't think the Federation would look too kindly on them sending many ships through the wormhole. In any case, I always thought it was the Cardassians egging them on that led the Dominion to invade.

QUOTE]

It's mentioned in the first meeting between Voyager and species 8472 that they had pretty much "sterilized" fluidic space and I get the feeling they were fairly xenophobic. the Borg opened the way for them to come into non-fluidic space and they followed to eliminate all threats to them. It's possible they might decide to return to finish what they started or they may be satisfied where they are.

Now the Dominion is very similar to species 8472.... they expand and conquer to eliminate any that might eventually oppose them. the Founders despised solids and sought to prevent being oppressed by them by attacking first. It seems like Cardassia was more a stalking horse for the Dominions plans in the Alpha quadrant. Look at all the changelings that infiltrated various Gov'ts and organizations to formulate disscord and even conflict among the Alpha quadrant powers and their own people

[locutus_of_borg_88]

Im loving these updates! Nice to see they are coming every 2 weeks now, hope they keep them coming out this quickly.

It seem like some of the speicies will be split so you can play as them whichever faction you choose.

However, I would like to see the Romulans and Cardassians side with the Federation.

looking forward to hearning more about Picard and Seven of Nine working against the Borg.

I hope these updates releate to the new movie and Countdown comic.

[Deyvid]

Another interesting read, and overall the storyline is intriguing and compelling. I can’t wait for each new installment. :) It’s especially interesting to read the developing storyline between the Federation and the Klingon Empire.

Initially, I wasn’t too happy with the decision to make the Klingons and Starfleet at odds as opposing factions, but then I started to think I should give it a chance and wait to see how Cryptic handles it. So far it’s intriguing.

It was cool to see the use of the tlhIngan Hol spelling of the Klingon homeworld, spelling it as Qo'noS instead of Kronos. Names of individuals were still in “Federation Standard” forms but even a single use of a tlhIngan Hol spelling was very cool. :)


Qapla' to Martok!

[SenshiBat]

Yes good points all this.. Worf is vulnerable to the propaganda as an federation leaning personage..its would be difficult for him to remain neutral and he would support Martoks efforts in exileif needed.
The Dominion would redirect without the Founders pushing them.
The Borg would be the Borg. When faced with resistance they attempt ways around the resistance through acquiring tools to defeat the blockage.
Bajor would seek more reparations from Cardassia then their economy could support ala the Allies after WW I..
Klingon remilitarization looks for independent destiny from federation dependence..
Romanian pride and past xenophobic tendency and collapse of central government ability to regulate affairs force more regional Royalist to set up semi autonomy and separate diplomatic survival deals weakening the empire further. as more truths get out the empire can no longer spin the rebellion as defeats mount chaos ensues creating opportunities for freebooters and covert federation expansion,, or a Finlandization or areas by they and Klingon forces.

[KirksOtherSon]

A real joy to see another one of these so soon! Thanks, Kestrel!

And the Klingons got a bigger piece of the story this time, so I expect there will be a little less grumbling and bat'leth sharpening among the head-ridge fans this time out. ;)

The Cardassians -- this is definitely interesting to me. Given that the Star Trek Online galaxy is set to divide along Federation/Klingon factional lines, I continue to wonder where the post-war Cardassians will fall.

Personally, I think they would, for all their strong differences, do better among the consciously-accomodating Federation than among the follow-orders-or-die Klingons. Two races known for arrogance and intractability might make for too fragile an alliance. But I suspect that's just my own opinion ...

The Romulans? As ever, I expect they will end up on only one side -- their own. First expansion pack for the game, to be certain.

Anyway, thanks again for the look. It's all well done and great fun, and I look forward to more.

KOS

[Davies82]

Really enjoyed reading the latest installment to the timeline.
Keep up the good work guys.

[UfcFan78]

Thumbs WAY up!!!

[Captain_Intrepid]

In legal matters, Rear Admiral James Bennett of the Starfleet Judge Advocate General’s office rules that the “Data Decision,” referenced in The Doctor’s legal arguments to keep the mobile emitter, is too narrow to be used in this case. Bennett rules that the precedent can only be applied to prove that The Doctor is not the property of Starfleet, and not to decide whether or not he is a sentient being. The Doctor’s counsel appeals the decision, and analysts predict that the case will continue for some time.

The Soong Foundation, a group affiliated with the Daystrom Institute and dedicated to promoting the rights of artificial life forms, announces that it is beginning research to create a mobile holographic emitter of its own design, with the hopes that the technology can be adapted for civilian use.


To me, this is a cool way to allow Holographic player characters, with the stipulation that the Soong Foundation's version of the mobile holographic emitter won't be as good as the 31st Century one, thereby bringing game balance to the characters without being 'heavy-handed' about it.

:cool:

[Flatfingers]

Some thoughts....

1. Thanks for the update! It's obviously a useful marketing tool, but clearly it's also fun for the writer and for us as readers.

2. As others have said, the quality of the writing here is excellent. The key pieces of the whole arc from 2380 to 2409 must already have been defined; these "Path" entries are just filling in the gaps. But that still calls for imagination and skill. It's very well done.

3. This last is going to sound like a criticism, but it's not intended in a negative way.

It's just this: I happen to enjoy the "grand sweep" style of history writing. (Seriously; Carroll Quigley's The Evolution of Civilizations is one of the three greatest books I've ever read... and I've read a lot of books.)

But the thing that occurs to me is that this isn't how history progresses in Star Trek. Because Star Trek was episodic TV and several movies that featured a few specific characters, those characters wound up saving the Federation (or otherwise significantly impacting the course of history in our part of the Milky Way Galaxy) a remarkable number of times. Individuals in Star Trek have the power to make a real difference. That's one of the things that defines Star Trek, that gives it its unique value as an entertainment property.

What I find curious is that there's very little evidence of this "great person" form of history happening in the various Path entries. Instead, the reading we're getting here seems focused more on often-nameless social forces contending like waves pushing and pulling at the sand on a beach -- they'll change the shape of the coastline eventually, but there's not much drama in the process.

To summarize:

Tal'aura, Tomalak and Donatra appear to have a stalemate in Romulan space. That may change, but likely only as a fleet- or society-wide shift in the balance of power there.

Spock is back with the Unificationists, but apparently not accomplishing much after the Federation Council's refusal to act. (The refusal by Councilor T'Los in 2382 to support Unification might ultimately prove to be a fateful decision, but a failure to act, while perhaps defensible within the storyline, is definitely not dramatic in the style of Star Trek's usual protagonists.)

Martok is hanging on to his position, but we can be pretty confident that he and those others who favor a détente with the Federation are doomed. So as an individual, it appears that Martok will not be a factor in Klingon history. The "hardliners" win, but we don't (yet) know who leads them and how.

And what of Miral Paris? It was suggested in Perpetual's version of Star Trek Online that Miral Paris would emerge as a leader within the Klingon civilization capable of creating a pro-Federation bloc. If Cryptic has similar intentions regarding her, at what point will she display the kinds of unexpected actions that mark her for future greatness?

Cardassians, meanwhile, still reeling from the psychic shock of their civilization's failures in the Dominion War, push and shove between military and religious solutions. Again, this is presented as clashes between cultural forces, rather than as the kind of delicately balanced situation that could be tipped by a single individual into a history-defining course.

Even the Doctor's situation remains unresolved; he sets no precedents but is merely a cork bobbing on the waves of the Federation legal system.

As I said, I happen to enjoy the Big Picture approach to history-telling. I agree that history can usefully be viewed from the 40,000-foot level. But is that really the right approach given how we've seen Star Trek work, with its extremely individualistic interpretation of why things happen in one way and not another?

For example, where's the Enterprise? In -- what, three, four years -- it hasn't already saved the Federation a dozen times over, to the point of meriting at least one mention in the post-Nemesis history revealed so far?

Have Captain Riker and the crew of the Titan not found and turned back even a single Threat to the Federation's Very Existence? (They may have done so in the books I haven't read, but how have they affected history in the "Path to 2409"?)

And can we really believe that Reg Barclay hasn't stumbled onto some new technological surprise that changes lives in a real and tangible way?

...

Again, I'm truly not making these comments in a negative way. I personally have no problem with seeing the Path to 2409 presented in a big-picture way. I actually admire the writer's ability to present the arc of affairs in such an objective way; not everyone has that talent.

The only thing is... is that good Star Trek? Is history without individual heroes and villains really the most dramatic, the most "engaging" way to grab people's attention and pull them into the unique world and story of Star Trek?

--Flatfingers

[Spacemanspiff]

Good to see the Empire starting to split with the Federation.

[phifur]

Once again great job :)

[pdidy]

Can't wait till the next year!!!!!

[Sckullzy]

This shows the kind of political/ cultural posturing that would realistically lead to a breakdown between the Klingon Empire and The Federation brilliantly; and it does it without making one side more the problem than the other. They could have easily just made it two ship captains got on each other’s nerves, and ‘pew pew pew’ there’s a war. That could even be what ends up being the final spark that sets off the powder ked but Cryptic has actually identified which understandable political insult lead to diplomats being recalled. They have diplomats leaving the grounds and internal pressure for escalation spilling out in to the public as well as disputes over the territories of a third party that one side is trying to bolster relations with. All it takes now is a mutually felt crisis followed by one overt act by either side and war is basically inevitable; even if it ends up being a cold war fought in border skirmishes rather than an all out battle on all fronts. It all shows a real insight which is so often missing genre storytelling and a real respect for the intelligence of the readers.

I also love the introduction of the Soong foundation. It stands to reason any number of groups would try to develop a version of the emitter seeing as it has beneficial applications but isn’t readily available because of the unusual circumstances of how it came to be. Also having a contemporary organization developing it not only sidesteps the legal situation with the doctor allowing it to play out at its own responsible pace but also the problems with it being future technology. Now it’s just a future idea that people see the potential for. The Ferengi could even figure the device out first and charge for access to it. It’s not as if anyone holds any form of patent on it.

[SenshiBat]

A great think tank based a brilliant engram attempt to speed up ships operations gone bad. after Constitution Class Cruiser systems innovated how could the Doctor top that.. He put his own brain cells on the line..
The Soong experience in artificial life gives it an ideal philosophic vantage to enter an opinion or brief for the court.

[Nonderyon]

Awsome =)Thx this write =)

[Powernexus]

Excellent!

I'm loving the background that Cryptic is laying for the upcoming game. I am excited to play and am already starting to get the feeling of being immersed in the lore.

What's really great is that I have gone from being dead set on playing the Federation, to now feeling really engrossed in the Klingon side of the story and wanting to play as one.

Kudos to the writers at Cryptic! This will definately be a game where I don't just skim through the dialog.

[tab]

sorry but my english is not so good.
when admiral taris defect means he do desertion in favor of donatra?

[GladDog]

sorry but my english is not so good.
when admiral taris defect means he do desertion in favor of donatra?

That is the exact meaning.

[GladDog]

A good read, thats for sure!

The Federation and the Empire are slowly splitting apart, and the Romulans are bgeing groomed as a primary enemy for both factions. The Cardassians, on the other hand, look like they are heading for civil war that will result in one of several possibilitiues:

1) the Klingons come in and claim the Cardassian worlds as part of the empire, resulting in a declaration of war by the Federation after negotiations fail. The Cardassians form up a resistance group, which of course makes for plenty of possible storylines. The Klingons need to fight them, the Feds need to help them.

2) Cardassia is reclaimed by the Oralians, making them a 'wild card' in the quadrant -- probably opposing both factions.

3) The Cardassian homeworlds are attacked by the Romulan renegades, who are seeking a place to form up their nation, essentially expelling the Cardassians. These Cardassians ironically are taken in by the Bajorians, becoming allies that work for the freedom of Cardassia -- at all costs. Anyone that gets in their way draws their wrath!

I'm sure there are lots of other possibilities, these are just a few I thought of after reading the story.

[0wl]

With lore and political tensions like this being thought/played out one cannot help wanting to immersive in this grand upcoming world/game!

[GladDog]

I'm sure they have a story line already worked out -- but I bet they are looking at some of the ideas put forth by the fans to see what might be ubercool!

[Fvillha]

Some thoughts....

Again, I'm truly not making these comments in a negative way. I personally have no problem with seeing the Path to 2409 presented in a big-picture way. I actually admire the writer's ability to present the arc of affairs in such an objective way; not everyone has that talent.

The only thing is... is that good Star Trek? Is history without individual heroes and villains really the most dramatic, the most "engaging" way to grab people's attention and pull them into the unique world and story of Star Trek?

--Flatfingers

As always good observations and comments Flatfinger, I concur, more detailed information would be appreciative. Captain Riker and the U.S.S Titain will have under gone a few changes (if Riker is even still with us after 30 years, maybe Son of Riker :) ), and you're right that U.S.S. Titain and crew do a lot in the book series that would effect the Federation/Romulan factions, and it would be nice to hear what has occurred between the Remen and the Klingons; and like afew have pointed out, where does the Unification stand after 30 years? This would impact Romulans and Feds both.

[Conman]

I wonder where they will take the cardies, i think they might be close to a irreconcilable civil war... religion can tend to birth massive rifts in a culture... especially with no word of the feds keeping an eye on it.. hmmm :P

[SenshiBat]

I believe this more the time gap of 30 years in the Path
A majority of a successful officers career like Rikers have passed
though past wars have extended careers have medical developments short of Legalizing eugenics made the demands easier. or just more palatable.
The US NAvy's Nuclear programme saw Adm.Hy Rickover go well beyond normal service life to Shepard the programme..
But of course we saw the Enterprise TNG shuttling Adm McCoy at age 175..on mission one.
I think it would be nice to Avoid the Temporal Police and Save the Avian race. nothing against you insectoids personally I just prefer Avians. Tribbles .
You know you're just jealous of Wesley Crusher..so move on.

[Thraken]

Looks like either way we can have our holographic 'races'.

And once again - it seems like the DS9 relaunch errata are being put in - albeit seemingly shifted back a few years. (If true - this heralds a nicer more cooperative cardassian union :P )

[PaperBackHero]

If the good doctor needs a ride out of town in a hurry ,there are a number of rides waiting to pick him up ,fabricate a emitter arry for the Federation to turn off and move the doctor to some where safer .:cool:

[SenshiBat]

Hi TAB,
My Italian comes from cooking Shows so you are ahead of me in multi lingual appreciation.
I Think the Romulan Admiral had to defect to Donatra after failing Her Boss in battle.
The Praetor is never happy with failure..

[Chiyeko]

Interesting..

I really hope that donatra gets the upper hand to takes control over the empire. Her alliance could be a key factor in a fight vs the klingons.

also where is our federation? I would at least expect a report of more war like ship that are going into design/production to prepare for the next war. Or is the federation still that stupid and they only star doing that when the war has already started?

Also how is it with the cloaking devices? with the romulans way to bussy wouldn't it be time for us to start fixing them onto our ships. the clear advantage they give should be crystal clear.


I keep a eye out for the next.

[CaptainHancock]

Wow, the Star Trek Online universe keeps getting more and more interesting. In my humble opinion, this would be the best time for the Borg to return in order to take advantage of the situation. God help us all in 2409!

[Ozymandias]

I have to wonder what role the Tal Shiar has in the ongoing conflict between Tal'ura and Donatara. Considering their SOP I'd think they'd try to assassinate one or the other (or maybe even both and install one of their own) in order to end the conflict. That the Klingons have retaken the Khitomer sector would pose a direct threat to the unity of the Star Empire - something that the Tal Shiar is sworn to uphold at any cost.

[Reinkaos]

nice update! I'm pinning my hopes on a certain Sisko making an appearance in a future update :D

[Mlgarth81]

WOW so far the storyline is real good, it have a DS9 feel to it. Keep up the good work guys

[Danny567]

Very Nice, Im interested in the case with the Doctor and how it goes!!!

[CaptianSquirrel]

very nice. i cant wait to see what happens next!

[captainjamesmartin]

I may have missed something, with all this holography talk...im wondering if each Online Player is in fact apart of a holographic crew...the story sounds really intriuging, I would be interested to find out what has happened with Data's brother 'B4', whether he developped far enough to become like his brother.

Any way I cant wait for this to be released!

[fireraven]

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also where is our federation? I would at least expect a report of more war like ship that are going into design/production to prepare for the next war. Or is the federation still that stupid and they only star doing that when the war has already started?


I imagine the Feds are still working on replacing the losses of so many ships and outposts during the Klingon-Federation "war" and the Dominion war.

[Cpt.Medo]

Here is a gift to all the star trek fans out there that did not know about this new project. www.startrekofgodsandmen.com This is a low budget movie directed by Tim Russ who also played Tuvok. Considering that it is a low budget movie I found it very good. I don't want to spoil anything but you are going to find a lot of familiar characters in this movie. It is about one hour a thirty minutes long. Like I said, it is a low budget movie but it was done nicely. I am a big Star Trek fan and I have to be honest that I loved it.

Again the website is www.startrekofgodsandmen.com

[Samurai02008]

I may have missed something, with all this holography talk...im wondering if each Online Player is in fact apart of a holographic crew...the story sounds really intriuging, I would be interested to find out what has happened with Data's brother 'B4', whether he developped far enough to become like his brother.

Any way I cant wait for this to be released!

I dont know whether or not B4 would be able to advance as far as Data had. I mean Data had the only known emotion chip in existance fused to his neural net and it was lost when he was vaporized. Plus not to mention that B4 was an earlier model than Data. He had a slower processing speed and may not be able to perform as adaquetely as Data had. It would be an interesting theory to look into though. I agree with CaptainJameMartin. Bring B4 into the mix. See what he does for the advancement of the path to 2409 storyline.

[Tylor_Liles]

I dont know whether or not B4 would be able to advance as far as Data had. I mean Data had the only known emotion chip in existance fused to his neural net and it was lost when he was vaporized. Plus not to mention that B4 was an earlier model than Data. He had a slower processing speed and may not be able to perform as adaquetely as Data had. It would be an interesting theory to look into though. I agree with CaptainJameMartin. Bring B4 into the mix. See what he does for the advancement of the path to 2409 storyline.

the non-canon books a time to series established that DATA had turned his emotion chip over to STARFLEET R&D. if ya cant bring DATA back completely then kane it where by maybe 2395 the soong instinute can make androids with DATA'S type of programming.(remember, a couple of times DATA was connected to the ENTERPRISE 1701-E computer....so his program could be stored in a holoprogram still maybe? but we'll see.)

[onesoul1982]

Great update:D

Can't wait to see how things develop for the "powers that be"

[SenshiBat]

Good point.. perhaps when Geordie.. Set the Enterprise Computer to challenge Data ;as Holmes v Moriarty]
The computer had to scan all available files on 'him'...

[blackfx]

:D I'm really digging the plot!

Damn, can't wait to jump on this game!

[fstrai]

I hope they release it ASAP because EVE on line is looking very good.

[lrdnova]

So what happend with "The Doctor....", is he free like data?

Also, was Data, as a Soong Android free as an Individual, or free as a Species?

in either case, shouldnt B4 be treated in the same capacity?

[MagusSchneider]

wow nice reading, thx!

[DanielLutrin]

The story looks great and getting better cant wait for the next update

[Skaeggbiffen]

Lovely, give us more stuff about cardassia!

On second thought,... let andoria take over everything :D

[sauron3121]

How do you play unless it hasn't launched,please reply.:confused:

[SenshiBat]

Friend of the Court. Brief. Outline..

If Star Fleet Legal defers judgement due too pressing interveening matters such as war.. I would file a Habeas corpus..
The Judgment is ripe for judicial review prefaced on the Court finding it a Case by case and not a class action?
A Civil Tort matter.. but not dismissing with prejudice..
ITs a matter for the Federation Supreme Court in the end as a Benchmark for all future lower court rulings.

Remanding B4 to the custody of the Soong Int.. Establishes a Property interest..
For a subject Like a Guardianship hearing.. not a self determination..
Or fair emancipation of the new entity.. B4
B4 being a composite of Data an Established Star Fleet Rank Officer and 2nd officer of a major ship..
presidents.. for self determination have been established to the jurist prudence rule or the
"What a reasonable citizen would be lead to believe by the evidence presented".
This doctrine of the Courts.. is tantmount to Chief Justice Oliver Wendall Holmes " yelling Fire in a theater exemption to free speech" as a basic protection of liberty and protection of basic humanoid needs
The EMH may want to consider a unique strategy of hiring a
ELH [emergency legal Holograph] of Jerry Spence to defend him next time..
The Mobile emitter could be argued belongs to Star Fleet.. Based on long standing Research and Development Corporate law.. "What a Scientist develops in the lab with our equipment belongs to us not them as an individual"
Denigning him the Mobile emmiter germain to his very existance is equvilent to unlawfull arrest and siezure of person if not property. or crule and unusall punishement without due process claim beign taken seriously.
I believe this should be an exemption to or by the law.. and thus allow the Doctor [EMH] a freedom of self through allowance to maintain the Moblie emitter critical to maintain his survival.. under the open access law allowing for him to be able to enter all public or private palces lic to operate a public buisness.
But on Becoming self aware.. As Wesley Crushers Nanos did.. Prove a Case President.. Though not a court league decision it was under the rights and privileges of a Star Fleet Captain [picard]to be the law and judge on his own vessel in most cases.. under the laws of the sea adaptations of old earth nautical tradition. Brought forward "the LAws of the Sea" and star Fleet Regulations demand an acceptaince of Life in any form thats Sentiant.. to deny any that have proven cognitive funticiont independatnt of what a programmed machine could replicat is denighing the truth and the truth shall set them free,..
I want a jury trial.. of all Counsel planets in the pool. and plenty of silver bullets. and per diem just for my klingon coffee.. I'll do the rest Pro Bono..
I'll agree to let the Doctor stay on home monitoring as long as you agree his home was firmly extablished as Voyager..
I wil lreview my witness list request.. and see the proper warrents are issued though compeling Delta Quaderant Residants may prove difficualt.. I will petition the court to grant a limited Imunity from prosecution to the Borg Queen.. who can speak to the voracity of Datas being.. and Contact with the formerly known as EMH Doctor.. I would argue the terms B4 and EMH are demeaning and derogitory. during trial?.

[razzak11]

Awesome! :D:eek::D

[SenshiBat]

Again i want to thank the members of the Military Tribunal for hearing my parallel appeal.. on the MErits of
Non Standard Sentient Life and Rights for Officers in the Federation Fleet.. [wink]

So you see by my Holographic files Admiral that i can tie you down with Supeonas adnasium if you do not free my clients..

[Lokor]

I like how people are exploring the Romulan civil war. Donatra, as mentioned by others, could be a very vaulable to the Federation. I would like to see her win more of her battles, I would also like to see her recieve more official Federation support. Having the Romulans as allies would be a great advantage in a war against the Klingons.

[boer1209]

Very interesting expansion to the Star Trek Universe. I especially like the small story line expansions such as Ro Laren reapearing (one of my favorite supporting characters). I think these are the factors that will make this an interesting game. I think story is one of the things that make mmos incredibly addictive and I think you are on the right track for creating an interesting and expandable story line. I am really enjoying the developing storyline of the Romulans and I hope we will have the opportunity to participate in it soon!

[jojobean]

Love the work your doing for building onto the lore already established, keep up the good work ;)

[Shadowflare06]

It certainly is a tangled web, but politics usually are. It almost feels like reading real history... I can't wait to hear what happens next!

[Nador_Ekoor]

organizing timeline together here...

[Nador_Ekoor]

organizing timeline together here...

[Endow]

The more and more I read, the more i am intrigued and should have read from the get go. The Song Institute is awesome, and I want to no more about the Oralians, and the Cardassian history. Cheers, to reading on.