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joseramon
11-12-2008, 03:56 AM
"A coalition of planets led by Bajor demand that members of the Cardassian government and military stand trial for crimes against sentient beings for actions taken during the Occupation of Bajor and the Dominion War. The Cardassian government refuses any request to surrender its citizens for prosecution, so the coalition appeals to the Federation Council and the Klingon High Council to join them in seeking justice for past crimes."

I guess that the Federation will support the Bajoran request, but the Klingon High Council instead will turn his help on the Cardassian. That will rise the differences between both factions and encourage an approach to the cold war situation.

What do you think?

jayrelo
11-12-2008, 04:41 AM
i just don't see it. bajor has done this crying before. i frankly don't really know where this plot point is going. it seems kind of odd that the bajoran's would bring up the whole occupation yet again. i mean, c'mon, it was metioned almost every year there was ds9, enough is enough. i can understand teh dominion war causing this, but i mean, what about all the other races that were attacked.

i see a small faction of bajorans as always the fringe zealots who want to destroy anything cardassian, but i'm not sure this plot segment was the way to go. out of the enitire timeline, this feels the least right.

but i won't judge, i'm happy with the story overall so far. i think something else sets up the klingons.

(maybe later on, a secret romulan faction plants the seeds of destruction between the feds and klings) but that sounds cliche too. oh well, i shall wait patiently.

Hagon
11-12-2008, 05:13 AM
I'm guessing tensions will begin rising when a Federation away team beams down from their ship onto a Klingon held planet, and someone in the party gets their uniform dirty, another breaks a nail, and then the most dreadful thing happens. The captain's hair gets messed up.

This so angers the crew of the Federation ship in question that they send a tearful message of protest to the Klingon High Council, who, in their infinite wisdom, dispatch a squadron of battle-cruisers to "remove" the Federation ship from their space. Permanently like.

Allardyn
11-12-2008, 06:05 AM
"A coalition of planets led by Bajor demand that members of the Cardassian government and military stand trial for crimes against sentient beings for actions taken during the Occupation of Bajor and the Dominion War. The Cardassian government refuses any request to surrender its citizens for prosecution, so the coalition appeals to the Federation Council and the Klingon High Council to join them in seeking justice for past crimes."

I guess that the Federation will support the Bajoran request, but the Klingon High Council instead will turn his help on the Cardassian. That will rise the differences between both factions and encourage an approach to the cold war situation.

What do you think?

The Klingons would never 'help' the Carddies. If anything after the Dominion War they would want to annex Cardassian territories. From a Klingon point of view they didn't take the heaviest losses in the Dominion War for nothing. I could see this causing a rift between Feds and Klingons.

Trekkie
11-12-2008, 07:07 PM
I think that the Cardassians will be utilized slightly differently, but I wouldn't mind it if the story took the direction outlined in the initial post. Honestly, I cannot see the Klingon Empire really helping any other race too much, especially if they are designed to be one of the major factions opposing the Federation in the game.

-Brett-
11-12-2008, 08:49 PM
"A coalition of planets led by Bajor demand that members of the Cardassian government and military stand trial for crimes against sentient beings for actions taken during the Occupation of Bajor and the Dominion War. The Cardassian government refuses any request to surrender its citizens for prosecution, so the coalition appeals to the Federation Council and the Klingon High Council to join them in seeking justice for past crimes."

I guess that the Federation will support the Bajoran request, but the Klingon High Council instead will turn his help on the Cardassian. That will rise the differences between both factions and encourage an approach to the cold war situation.

What do you think?

I could see the reverse happening, but why would the Klingons want to help the Cardassians?

cocoa-jin
11-12-2008, 11:00 PM
Im thinking the Klingons wouldnt inititate two war fronts at the same time. I suspect the Klingons are attempting to expand thier territory in order to gain access to much needed resources to sustain a desire to increase their ability to defend themselves from threats outside the Beta Quadrant. I doubt they see the Federation as a primary threat, but fear the unknown or known threats such as the Borg(some maps show the Delta Quadrant bordering a large portion of the Beta Quadrant).

In their attempt to expand, they are allying with groups considered unsavory to the Feds, raising trust issues amongst the Feds,and possibly steam rolling other smaller soveriegn space in the process...once again straining Fed relationships as the Klingons push a campaign of Klingon security which is inceasingly incompatiable to Fed values.

The Feds would attempt to discourage Klingon agression in the Beta quadrant, the Klingons would insist its necessary for the protection of the Beta Quadrant and thus the Alpha Quadrant. Eventually the Feds would openly speak out against continued Klingon actions causing a policy stand-off as each side attempts to save face and hold tightly to its stance.

Some in the Fed ranks will fear the Klingons are entering into a phase rapid and all out Imperial expansion with security as a scape-goat, while some Klingons will feel the Feds are short sided and hey wont allow that short-sidedness to hinder Klingon attempts to secure its self from hostile forces from outside the Beta Quadrant...especially its the Borg they fear and the Feds didnt share their Borg defenses with the Klingons.

The Klingons will only see the Feds as an obstacle in its attempts to secure itself and would rather break its alliance witt them than fall victim to another invading force. The Feds would see any expansion toward the Alpha Quadrant(even if its not Fed space)as an escalation of the Klingon campaign of Imperial expansion. The Feds being unwilling to be the next to group to be step on by the Klingons would answer any expansion into the alpha quadrant as hostile and meet it accordingly...not necessarily by force, but by a show of force in hopes of discouraging additional expansion in the Alpha quadrant.

The Klingon expansion into non-Fed Alpha Quadrant space would be deemed necessary by the Klingons provided they felt the Feds werent taking the threat from outsides forces seriously, thus leaving these areas open, and the Klingons percieving it as a threat to their security...so if the Feds wont deal with it, they will. Any attempt by the Feds to prevent this would be seen as unacceptable and the Fed forcing its will on the Klingon Empire at the expense of Klingon security...plus its no Fed space to block Klingon expansion into.

Additional tensions, attempts to expand, Fed attempts to block it and the flow of new resources into the Klingon war machine from recent territorial acquistions and its new batlle hardened allies within the Empire would give the Klingons reason and the means to flex its muscle in these areas of contention...which it would deem a good cause and justified. The Feds would see itself insure the balance of power in the galaxy remain as it was, while attempting to prevent the absorption of other peoples into the Klingon Empire...where they'd have less liberties.

USS_Parallax
11-12-2008, 11:16 PM
"A coalition of planets led by Bajor demand that members of the Cardassian government and military stand trial for crimes against sentient beings for actions taken during the Occupation of Bajor and the Dominion War. The Cardassian government refuses any request to surrender its citizens for prosecution, so the coalition appeals to the Federation Council and the Klingon High Council to join them in seeking justice for past crimes."

I guess that the Federation will support the Bajoran request, but the Klingon High Council instead will turn his help on the Cardassian. That will rise the differences between both factions and encourage an approach to the cold war situation.

What do you think?

I don't see it happening that way. The Klingons already have poor relations with the Cardassians and went to war with them before anyone else. I don't see the Klingons helping the Cardassians at all. Heck, I don't see even the Federation supporting it. Such a project would be bad for the restoration of Cardassia and just strain an already strained relationship between the Federation and Cardassians. Especially if some of the Cardassians the Bajorans would want to put on trail were freedom fighters or some that had turned on the Dominion.





On another note it seems like they're pretty much ignoring 99.9% of soft canon. This is getting annoying. Some of it is good and quality. XP