The Path to 2409: 2381 (November 10, 2008)

[jsutich]

After what seems like a year has passed, the next update to our timeline has been posted, detailing the events of 2381.

Starfleet is monitoring the deteriorating state of the Romulan Star Empire, which appears to be moving toward open civil war. Federation ambassadors are consulting with representatives of the Klingon Empire and other Alpha and Beta quadrant powers about a proposed course of action to either bring peace to the Romulans or control any conflict that spills out of Romulan space.

Read more here! (http://www.startrekonline.com/timeline/2381)

[IanD967]

ooooooo awesome sauce :D

loving how you ended that and looking forward as to what they look like :)

[Leecabs]

Excellent timeline work cant wait to hear more!

[martinsky]

Awesome.

Extra nice to see an update when some trolls have been whining about it.

great work :)

Regarding the timeline itself.
Bajor disgust me. Now that we all messed up and got nothing, and economical crises and such, they want to start trials against us. Such a weak civilization it is.

[jonleach]

Awesome update to the time line. Really beginning to tease about what to expect in the future updates.

[Eisenwolff]

I smell USS Titan canon

[KO_Gilligan]

Juicy stuff.... No holding back on naming names and referencing the ususal suspects...

I see Romulan space is about to explode...

A new class of Starship, Eh?

Thanks Cryptic, but get ready to hear about a few Spock-styled raised eyebrows... :eek:

[Allardyn]

woo finally, keep em coming.!!

[JPJappic]

Good job on the timeline. Really enjoyed ready it.

[GladDog]

Juicy stuff.... No holding back on naming names and referencing the ususal suspects...

I see Romulan space is about to explode...

A new class of Starship, Eh?

Thanks Cryptic, but get ready to hear about a few Spock-styled raised eyebrows... :eek:

Thats probably the class of ships we will start with when the game releases...

[Vicelance]

Nice looks like the Romulan Empire is going to get very interesting with this civil war. Hope we get to see a pic or two of the Stargazer-A soon.

[Raven0238]

How the hell is Spock still alive?! Its been more than 200 years by now.

[ddredar]

Hope we get to see a pic or two of the Stargazer-A soon.

Same here. I wonder if it will have four nacels like the original.

[Silverspar]

I smell USS Titan canon

I actually smell canon from severals ources, including Star Trek: Destiny. A lot of that apepars in those novels, but seems like they might be ignoring the war that occurred in that book.

Either way, very good read Kestrel. I am considering doing a re-write for Delta Wolf to streamline that timeline hehe.

[ToadMonkey]

very nice Thank You. :D

[Will_Lucky]

Very Interesting, I see you also included the new Borg Queen. The ending of that novel was a bit of a shame but still I need to pick up the 3rd in that series to finish it.

[jwick4471]

"Following increased activity by the Borg in the Alpha Quadrant including the possible recreation of a Borg Queen, Starfleet appoints Captain Jean-Luc Picard to lead the defense against the renewed threat."

Did anyone else find the bit about the Queen being recreated weird?

I was under the impression Borg queens weren't that hard to come by. I figured every complex and a good number of Tactical cubes had them but I guess their a little scarcer than I though.

[Hagon]

How the hell is Spock still alive?! Its been more than 200 years by now.I always understood the Vulcan life span was @200 to 250 years, with one (can't remember the name) living @270 years.

Anyway, more good stuff. Thanks.

[ArchonX]

I like them bringing Picard and Seven of Nine into one story. I agree with the need for pics of the
Stargazer-A immediatley :-) I hope its part of the Prometheus Class.

[willriker09]

The damn borg are at it again, why can't they stay in their own quadrant? At least things are on good terms with the Romulans, hopefully they stay that way and the Romulans join the Federation to fill the void the Klingons will leave behind. Unification movement a success? I like where this is going, totally switching things around. Guess the Cardies will join the Klingons then. That is a shame, I love Cardassians and wanted them to join the Federation.

[Rusulka]

Thats probably the class of ships we will start with when the game releases...

No. You start off with a Thruster-suit and a Type-1 Phaser :p

[RockMax]

Stargazer-A eh? Picard would LOVE that, wouldn't you think so?

[Nyanya]

Nice update, thanks.

And I agree with others; can't wait to do some Stargazing. ;)

[KO_Gilligan]

I think I might pop Nemesis into the DVD plaver tonight... although I doubt I'll gain any insight.

[jagerbolt]

whoohoo! nice update. it'll be cool to see how the Romulan Civil War unfolds. And agreed. PICS of the Stargazer! Come'on! :D

[AaronH]

I don't know if I like the the comments about the cardassians refusing to give up war criminals. It seems to imply that the Cardassians are still a largely independant state, I was expecting to see them as more of a fractured empire struggling to rebuild with the help of the federation, or something similary. Oh well.

I like the direction of the romulans and am glad to see that it isn't the typical, my side your side conflict, a lot of different factions pulling in different directions.

[korallthegrey]

cryptic needs to show us this new class in their next picture updates. will it be the same style as the old constellation class (four nacelles, no enginnering hull) and mission type (explortation/defensive patrol)? These are the questions to which we all need answers. all frequencys are open cryptic....please respond....

[plankcore]

Excitement overwhelms me!

[boydyma]

hero!... marry me razor.

good sauce FTW!

[Rangerrob]

:cool:

Very Cool. Seven of Nine working with Picard.

[CStrass]

I actually smell canon from severals ources, including Star Trek: Destiny. A lot of that apepars in those novels, but seems like they might be ignoring the war that occurred in that book.


I've got to agree. It would be hard to incorperate everything that goes on in the novels, if cryptic will even attempt to. It would be really cool if all of the novels and the plot of STO agreed, but I doubt that it will happen given the complexity and everchanging nature of both the game and the path of the novels.

On another note, it almost seems like the Destiny novels are playing into Cryptic's hand. (with the Borg invading and all).

[iammacgyver]

Very cool! I WANT MORE!!!! TELL ME MORRRRRRREEEE!!!!!

[marscentral]

Woo hoo, timeline update. I haven't read many Trek books, so this is all new to me :D

Like many of you, I can't wait to see the Stargazer A and like the hint that not all of Starfleet's efforts are military in nature.

[Sorbek]

Very nice thing to wake up and find before going to work!

[ExAstris]

Glad to see some intelligent political intrigue with the Romulans. Their fracturing also leaves room for the possibility of adding them as a 3rd race in a future expansion that could have reasons to fight alone, against itself, or on either of the current sides.

Cardassians still have an empire and get a say in things? I figured they'd be a bit like post-war Germany or Japan and have to head formal requests from the winning sides.
Also, why'd the Bajorans et al wait for over a year to demand war crimes trials? Isn't that something you hear about within a month (or even days) of a war ending?

Also, what's the Dominion up to? Bon fires and marshmellows? Fighting a Borg incursion into the Gamma Quadrant? So addicted to reruns of M.A.S.H. they've been in idle for 2 years? Did they learn nothing from the war and just start focusing their military on the Gamma Quadrant until they can storm the Alpha again, or did they get Odo's message so loud and clear that they are petitioning the Federation for closer relations as they cede back their conquered territories to the original inhabitants?

Also still curious about the Ferengi. If Rom had his way at the end of DS9 they could very well be Federation members by now, even if they are heavily materialistic its not a prohibition of the Federation, its just not something the society encourages like it does today.

Anyways, overall great stuff, anxious to see the whole path to 2409.

[Athos]

Ahhh, these historical updates are always nice to read. While I see similarities between these historical updates and the books, I also see some dramatic tangents from them. I credit Cryptic for taking the non-cannon books into consideration and integrating some material while writing their own version of history at the same time.

Here are some things I took note of:


In the post-series DS9 books, Bajor had joined the Federation rather quickly. Even before joining the Federation however, Bajor had opened its arms to embrace and forgive Cardassia for the Occupation and indeed, Bajor was a major player in the organization and provision of aid for the devastated Cardassia Prime. At Cardassia, a new religious faction had gained strength that enabled easy relations between Bajor and Cardassia. Cardassia had even helped Bajor on one or two of its issues. The authors of these book have painted a really vivid picture of that version of the Star Trek world that it will be difficult to put that aside and remember the STO history...but not impossible! :)

Before Dishonor and Greater than the Sum are definitely a strong influence in this update, as well as Star Trek: Destiny. The Borg, Captain Picard leading the battle group, Seven of Nine helping...just please don't bring up Captain Ezri Dax... :p

The Stargazer-A...didn't see that one coming! I like surprises and this is a good surprise. However, I do not believe that the Stargazer-A will be a Luna-class ship; the reasoning behind this is that all of the Luna class ships are named after moons in the Sol System. It is possible that Cryptic could just ignore that small piece of information from the books, to which I would not be disappointed, or we could see an entirely new class of starship. At any rate, this should be interesting.


Overall, I can tell that Cryptic is doing their homework and really researching all they can. Kudos to you!

[Captain-Picard]

So good old Spock is still alive. Great job.

[willriker09]

The timeline did say that the Stargazer-A would be the first of a new class of ship, why is everyone guessing as to whether it will be a "Prometheus" or a "Luna"? It will be something new

[curtst]

Finally! What a great read too! I can't wait for the next one!

[RogueEnterprise]

Pretty sweet. Can anyone itemize which items are from soft canon and which ones are Cryptic's original ideas? I'd ask Kestrel, but I imagine that she'd be more entertained watching us figure it out ourselves...... :p

[TheHybrid]

Lots of nice stuff! Can't wait for the Stargazer-A class ships. Love the read! Keep it up guys, you're doing great!

[Varrangian]

Thank you, much appreciated.

[Aitrus_Colso]

I'm really enjoying the timeline so far. It's including a lot of the high points that I've enjoyed in the books, particularly with regards to the disintegration of the Romulan Empire. I'm a huge fan of the Romulans, but at the end of Nemesis, the vacuum left by the complete destruction of their government just left it wide open for someone to try and claim the top spot, and it was *going* to lead to war.

Still, I'm curious as to where it's all going to lead. What *is* the Dominion up to? The Breen? The Tholians, for that matter. Gonna be interesting to see what takes us from here to the game's day.

[GhostWolf007]

Let me at em! come on! let me at em!........:eek: Nuff said!:D

[Arachnidus]

Stargazer isn't a Luna Class(another ship made primarily for exploration), they're all named after moons in Sol. So that means we've got another new class to work with. Awesome.

[THORN74]

How the hell is Spock still alive?! Its been more than 200 years by now.

2381 is only ~2 years after nemisis so Spock could most certianly be alive (though hes getting up there) remember the game will be 30yrs past nemesis in 2409. so just wait he may die yet. or maybe he will be alive durring the game.

conceivably picard, riker , troy, janeway, and all the rest could ALL be alive durring the game, but most wouldnt be on active duty anylonger.

picard (born 2305) would be 104 yrs old in 2409 when the game is set (most likely retired)

Riker & la forge (born 2335) would be 74 (maybe still active duty)

Troi (born 2336) would be 73

Worf (born 2340) would be 69 (not sure how long klingons live ?)

janeway (born 2336 aprox) would be 73 (since she was seen as an admiral durring nemesis she may be starfleet commander by game time)

chakotay born 2329

tom paris born = unknown (attended Starfleet Acadmey in 2360s = to college)

harry kim born 2340


so many main character could still be alive and on active duty

[headlockman]

Cool story, I must admit my eyes popped when i saw alpha and beta , for a minute i thought they were gonna announce the beta start dates of the game :P

[Gara000]

Thanks for the update.

[Silverspar]

The damn borg are at it again, why can't they stay in their own quadrant? At least things are on good terms with the Romulans, hopefully they stay that way and the Romulans join the Federation to fill the void the Klingons will leave behind. Unification movement a success? I like where this is going, totally switching things around. Guess the Cardies will join the Klingons then. That is a shame, I love Cardassians and wanted them to join the Federation.

I suggest reading hte part on the Romulans again, and this follows the soft canon novels closely. Donatra has caused a seperation in the Romulan Star Empire, basically the equivalent of the American North and South during the Civil War. So, you are looking at the Romulan Star Empire ran by Praetor Tal'Aura, and the seperatist faction ran by Empress Donatra.

There is so much political strife going on,a nd I doubt the Romulans are joiing the Federation. Bajorans want the Cardies to pay for war crimes, and the Borg threatening the entirety of the Alpha and Beta quadrants pretty much set things up as is.

[Silverspar]

2381 is only ~2 years after nemisis so Spock could most certianly be alive (though hes getting up there) remember the game will be 30yrs past nemesis in 2409. so just wait he may die yet. or maybe he will be alive durring the game.

conceivably picard, riker , troy, janeway, and all the rest could ALL be alive durring the game, but most wouldnt be on active duty anylonger.

picard (born 2305) would be 104 yrs old in 2409 when the game is set (most likely retired)

Riker & la forge (born 2335) would be 74 (maybe still active duty)

Troi (born 2336) would be 73

Worf (born 2340) would be 69 (not sure how long klingons live ?)

janeway (born 2336 aprox) would be 73 (since she was seen as an admiral durring nemesis she may be starfleet commander by game time)

chakotay born 2329

tom paris born = unknown (attended Starfleet Acadmey in 2360s = to college)

harry kim born 2340


so many main character could still be alive and on active duty

Well Kor, the Klingon Darha Master appeared, and he was from the original series, so Klingons most likely live to be about 200 years old at least as well.

[kekvin85]

fantastic storyline so far. Cant wait to see what the nxt year holds.

[willriker09]

I suggest reading hte part on the Romulans again, and this follows the soft canon novels closely. Donatra has caused a seperation in the Romulan Star Empire, basically the equivalent of the American North and South during the Civil War. So, you are looking at the Romulan Star Empire ran by Praetor Tal'Aura, and the seperatist faction ran by Empress Donatra.

There is so much political strife going on,a nd I doubt the Romulans are joiing the Federation. Bajorans want the Cardies to pay for war crimes, and the Borg threatening the entirety of the Alpha and Beta quadrants pretty much set things up as is.

I did read it, my post was a projection of likely events considering we are still nearly 30 years from the time the game starts. I think it is logical to assume my predictions may eventually become validated.

[UfcFan78]

Good stuff!! Maybe this quite the common folk............like me, lol. :p

[Qnaz]

Excellent for a second entry of the timeline. Lots of action still happening in the Galaxy. I like the political situations going on in the other Factions cause it can lead to so many possibilities. Nothing seems quite safe.

While I love the any timeline entry Cryptic can provide and I hate to look ill on good gifts; I'm noticing the storylines are lacking quite a bit in the Klingon side of the story. Other than an arbitrary mention of being in peace talks which included the Federation, there hasn't been much light shared on a faction that is supposed to be the other half of this game. Don't get me wrong I love the controversy and turmoil with the Romulans, the Borg Activity, and inclusion of favorite characters but couldn't there have been a tiny paragraph for the Klingons? There's still a lot many would like to know like How is the Empire holding up under Martock? Have there been any disputes over the distribution over newly captured Cardassian space? What's Worf's relations to the Empire now? Have they made any attempts to place a foothold in the Gamma Quadrant?

For now I'm hoping the next entry might give a mention to the State of the Empire.

[rikeromega]

...aaaaaahhhhhhhhh...

[Azurian]

Interesting events. But like said previously the events between the Bajorans and the Cardassians don't seem right. Because I swear they quickly taken those responsibile for the attrocities at the end of DS9.

The events in the Romulan Empire seems plausible, due to the power vacuum at the end of Nemesis.

The Borg Queen recreation? Sounds stupid. Because the Borg wouldn't take forever to rebuild her, because they have backups or replacements ready. Remember the Queen that was lost during First Contact was quickly replaced by the one in Voyager.

As for 7 of 9, surely SFC would've put her to use immediately upon her return to Earth with Janeway and the Doctor in developing Borg Countermeasures. (Which I would like to see something to come out of this like Borg Anti-bodies that prevent the assimilation process).

The timeline did say that the Stargazer-A would be the first of a new class of ship, why is everyone guessing as to whether it will be a "Prometheus" or a "Luna"? It will be something new

The First ships of a class, typically have the honor of bearing the name of that type.

USS Galaxy = Galaxy-Class
USS Sovereign = Sovereign-class
USS Consitution = Consitution-class

So the Stargazer-A being the first ship means the class would be regarded as the Stargazer-class.

And personally, I suspect the "peace-sign" ship is most likely is the Stargazer-class. (If so, it doesn't sit well with me :mad:)

[Angelphoenix12]

This is starting to make me excited to read the next few years. and sto. question though, didnt the bajoirs forgive the cardasians for what theyve done. because of the dominion war?
i cant wait for the next year, please keep up the great work. :D

[Rangerrob]

So the Stargazer-A being the first ship means the class would be regarded as the Stargazer-class.

And personally, I suspect the "peace-sign" ship is most likely is the Stargazer-class. (If so, it doesn't sit well with me)

Think you nailed this one. "Stargazer" to me says "lots of windows". :D

[Fvillha]

I'm really enjoying the timeline so far. It's including a lot of the high points that I've enjoyed in the books, particularly with regards to the disintegration of the Romulan Empire. I'm a huge fan of the Romulans, but at the end of Nemesis, the vacuum left by the complete destruction of their government just left it wide open for someone to try and claim the top spot, and it was *going* to lead to war.

Still, I'm curious as to where it's all going to lead. What *is* the Dominion up to? The Breen? The Tholians, for that matter. Gonna be interesting to see what takes us from here to the game's day.

Recommend reading:
USS Titan Star Trek Novel Series
The Articles of Federation
Death in Winter
Destiny Series to start with, I am sure other's can recommend more that they see STO following for ideas so far.

So far I like what I see in the Romulan Empire(s) Tal Aura versus Empress Donatra along with the Remen/Klingon alliance, will make for some interesting continuing story.

Who cares about the Cardassians? :rolleyes: (j/k)

[arakkis]

Yay timeline! Thank you for the update!

[Scorpinox]

cannot wait to see the design and find out what happens next.

[TheWon]

StarGazer -A really! What did that ship do to earn another family member. I would think maybe a Excelisor- A would happen before that. Well it's their story let's see what happens.

[Captain_Ryugi_Kazamaru]

Can't say I approve of the naming there (Stargazer-A), but otherwise, I like it. Very nice indeed.

[ArchonX]

The First ships of a class, typically have the honor of bearing the name of that type.

USS Galaxy = Galaxy-Class
USS Sovereign = Sovereign-class
USS Consitution = Consitution-class

So the Stargazer-A being the first ship means the class would be regarded as the Stargazer-class.


That is true, however, the story did say that the Stargazer-A and her sister ships would be the first of the line. So, one of the other ships could be the actual ship of the line that the class is named for. We will see. Personally, I would like to see a Stargazer-class. Seems fitting for Science and Research vessels.

[Cohas]

Nice, like too see more.

[The_Padre]

"With the blockade of Reman and upheaval at home, Praetor Tal’aura has insufficient forces to stop Commander Donatra, who rallies the breakaway military forces under her command to conquer several agricultural worlds in Romulan space."

I'll assume that is meant to be: "With the blockade of Remus and upheaval at home"

Personally not too keen on the Stargazer having the "A" prefix attached to her name, surely there's other Starfleet ships that deserved that naming convention more? The Excelsior perhaps?

[Ltfngr]

Remember, Leonard Nimoy is the 'spokesman' for the game, so I would expect to see Spock still alive, though old, at the start of the MMO.

[TWest]

Great timeline, can't wait for STO to come out next year!

Scheming Romulans? That's a first not. Sure I love them, just like Kirk did.

And it sounds to me like Seven's going to be another notch on Picard's belt... glad to hear he still has his moves.

[reiththestud]

Yay! Update!

[reiththestud]

Thats probably the class of ships we will start with when the game releases...

I would be surprised if that were the case. I don't think they would use a name so full of lore like "Stargazer" for a lower level class of starter ship. I figure they would save a name like Stargazer for a newer kind of capital ship. Either way, I know I want one.

[Trekkie]

This was excellent and definitely worth the wait! Thank you for releasing this update and I look forward to subsequent information on the timeline!

[Sevenblade]

Interesting events. But like said previously the events between the Bajorans and the Cardassians don't seem right. Because I swear they quickly taken those responsibile for the attrocities at the end of DS9.

The events in the Romulan Empire seems plausible, due to the power vacuum at the end of Nemesis.

The Borg Queen recreation? Sounds stupid. Because the Borg wouldn't take forever to rebuild her, because they have backups or replacements ready. Remember the Queen that was lost during First Contact was quickly replaced by the one in Voyager.

As for 7 of 9, surely SFC would've put her to use immediately upon her return to Earth with Janeway and the Doctor in developing Borg Countermeasures. (Which I would like to see something to come out of this like Borg Anti-bodies that prevent the assimilation process).



The First ships of a class, typically have the honor of bearing the name of that type.

USS Galaxy = Galaxy-Class
USS Sovereign = Sovereign-class
USS Consitution = Consitution-class

So the Stargazer-A being the first ship means the class would be regarded as the Stargazer-class.

And personally, I suspect the "peace-sign" ship is most likely is the Stargazer-class. (If so, it doesn't sit well with me :mad:)


Actually, I have to disagree with you there. If you notice, the first of the class (Galaxy, Luna, Excelsior, Defiant, etc), usually has an NX designation at first to denote its role as prototype of that new class. Letters are assigned when a ship has already previously been named that. The most classic example of this is the Enterprise (and most people either know the A or the D). That went as follows:

USS Enterprise XCV 330 – Pre-starfleet Earth ship
Enterprise NX-01 - NX class
USS Enterprise NCC-1701 – Constitution-class
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A – Constitution-class refit
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-B – Excelsior-class variant
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-C – Ambassador-class
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D – Galaxy-class
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-E – Sovereign-class
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-J – Possible future ship

So, logically, the Stargazer-A would simply be the second ship to be named such. It tells nothing about the class at all. Most likely, it'll be whatever new ship Cryptic wants to make as the iconic standard of ST:O, much like the Galaxy was for TNG and forward, and the Luna class is for Titan novels.

If you want to know more about the previous Stargazer, which was PIcard's earlier command, look here:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Stargazer

[STOCaptain]

this is petty cool to hear.

Thanks STO team for a good storyline and a nice little treat at the end :)

[JMD10222]

Nice update :D See people good things come to those who wait:p (Cant wait to see a pic of the the Stargazer A)

[willriker09]

It is about time that other ships started having their names continued. I know the Enterprise is the flagship and deserves the longevity that the letters provide it, but it would seem only right that other famous ships should get the same treatment. We should see the following flying around the STO galaxy:

Stargazer- A (already there)
Enterprise (hoping we are still on E personally)
Voyager
Defiant
Excelsior

Honorable mentions go to the Intrepid, Valiant, Phoenix, maybe even Reliant although it didn't do much that I know of. Not sure which letters each should be on though, guess it is kind of arbitrary. I guess Cryptic might take it easy on the AI starfleet ships flying around though, seeing as they want it to be like we (the players) constitute starfleet ourselves.

[Mailman653]

Woooo Romulan Civl War and Reman ships!! Time to take sides and unite the empire under one banner.

[Dext]

Nice work you all

[medullaman]

Awesome update. Picard and Seven on the same ship makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. Keep up the good work. Can't wait to read more.

[capgjt585]

All I can say is...

ITS ABOUT TIME! :mad:

... lol, I just need vent. Anyways, quite interesting.
Romulan civil war, logical.
Spock still diplomatically active, not sure (maybe the Genesis incident has something to do with it?:D).
Bajor still wanting to punish Cardassia, again not sure (I thought they had already taken care of that?)
Renewed Borg threat, I think they're just being stubborn about it.
Picard and Seven of Nine working together, is hopelessly wishing that a canon interaction would've taken place. :(
Stargazer-A, me wants pictures!

OK, that's it, I'm done.

[pyriel32]

Kind of weird reading this after reading the books and stop before you say the books are not cannon i know that. But i really enjoyed reading the new update thank you Razor.

[focuspark]

Anticipation... killing... me...

Ah well, CO will have to hold me over. :)

[CAPT.Baker]

You are totally right about the class!!!! If it were the first of its class it should bear the serial # of nx as first of class!!!! Hopefully the U.S.S. STARGAZER-A will be explained by cryptic in further updates!!!:):cool:

[njdss4]

Great update! These have been extremely fun to read! I hope we get to see the Stargazer-A sometime soon!

[picardalpha2clearance]

That time line update is great keep it coming guys!

[Stopher87]

The USS Voyager should have been destroyed due to the temporal prime directive as soon as it reached earth. If 7 of 9 uses the weapons won't they change history?

[Silverspar]

I did read it, my post was a projection of likely events considering we are still nearly 30 years from the time the game starts. I think it is logical to assume my predictions may eventually become validated.

I doubt they will considering I believe Jack said they wanted to add the Romulans as a faction, plain and simple. Cardassians, Romulans, ect. And considering the state the Romulan Star Empire is in, no way the Feds could ally with one and not start a war with the other. Politics is a hairy business and I doubt the Federation will want anything to deal witht hat until the Star Empire is whole again, if it ever happens.

That being said, I think there are plenty of other reasons, the Romulan angle for Klingons hating the Federation is a weak one honestly, especially considering the Klingons are backing the Remans.

[Silverspar]

The USS Voyager should have been destroyed due to the temporal prime directive as soon as it reached earth. If 7 of 9 uses the weapons won't they change history?

If you mean Transphasic torpedoes no, not really. Thing you have to learn about Star Trek, temporal Paradoxes don't always cause immediate or even change the timeline in Star Trek, if at all. Considering the Federation has been using Transphasic torpedoes, Picard was launching quite a number of them in the second novel of the Star Trek Destiny trilogy.

[Traynor94]

I've been waiting for this since a week after the last update. Thanks for the story Razor. I've been following the novels (pretty much all of them) for a couple years now, and so far I'm pretty happy with what I see. No changes to canon that I can't live with. I want to see if the events in the third Destiny Trilogy book are taken into consideration, gotta love David Mack's writing.

Again, thanks for the update.

And props to whoever it was that decided to bring a new Stargazer in. Nice nod to Picard. :cool:

[Syler_Akeron]

You are totally right about the class!!!! If it were the first of its class it should bear the serial # of nx as first of class!!!! Hopefully the U.S.S. STARGAZER-A will be explained by cryptic in further updates!!!:):cool:

The NX designation is for the prototype of the class. It just says the Stargazer - A and her sister ships will be the first of a new class meaning the first of the new class released.

Great story guys. You just keep making me want to play this game more and more.

[Silverspar]

The NX designation is for the prototype of the class. It just says the Stargazer - A and her sister ships will be the first of a new class meaning the first of the new class released.

Great story guys. You just keep making me want to play this game more and more.

NX is only use while the class is in the prototype phase, (as far as current Starfleet vessels are concerned). Once the ship goes from prototype to sanctioned and approved ship design, the NX is replaced with the standard NCC brand.

[Syler_Akeron]

NX is only use while the class is in the prototype phase, (as far as current Starfleet vessels are concerned). Once the ship goes from prototype to sanctioned and approved ship design, the NX is replaced with the standard NCC brand.

Yeah, that's the same thing I said. :p

[Faith]

Very Nice! Can't wait for the next installment of the timeline!

Curious, wouldn't a new USS Stargazer, just be called the Stargazer (without the A)? I would think the A would just be in its Registry number: NCC-2893-A.

Either way, can't wait to see the first screenshots of this new ship!

[Syler_Akeron]

Very Nice! Can't wait for the next installment of the timeline!

Curious, wouldn't a new USS Stargazer, just be called the Stargazer (without the A)? I would think the A would just be in its Registry number: NCC-2893-A.

Either way, can't wait to see the first screenshots of this new ship!

No. We refer to the Enterprises as Enterprise - A and so on. It's the same thing.

[Sorayn]

I really enjoyed reading this. It's once again a well written story and brings us one step closer to a "new2 Star Trek universe. I like where all this is going and I can't wait to asee how the political situation evolves in the next few years.

All in all Cryptic is building up the scene nicely and it gives them all the options to make a very nice game with lots of immersion possibilities.

Two thumbs up Cryptic!

[Nagilum]

Great read. I like the story line and hope we get to see the Stargazer-A in the next round of screen shots.

[CAPT.Baker]

The NX designation is for the prototype of the class. It just says the Stargazer - A and her sister ships will be the first of a new class meaning the first of the new class released.

Great story guys. You just keep making me want to play this game more and more.

ya if it is the first, of what i meant to say which would be the first of its class, therefore it would be (nx) !!!!!!:):D And yes it should still have an "A" designation for its the second ship too bear the name!!

[amb]

Thanks for that, Cryptic.

[Duckdee]

New ship? Gimmie!

*has no idea what's going on, but likes reading*

[Scooby]

Stargazer-A ... cool!:D

[Sarevok]

Need... more... info...

When are we gonna get another timeline? Or maybe a look at that Stargazer you mentioned??

[CasiusOntius]

All I can say is....YAY!!

Seriously though, I love the thought of Picard working with Seven against the Borg. It's so cool! Can't wait for more!

[WarpVis]

Like a starving dog, I pounce upon and devour any scrap that comes my way!:)

[Gambit]

Nice update. Can't wait to hear a bit more about the new class of Starship regardless of whether or not it ends up in the game :)

[jayrelo]

Interesting events. But like said previously the events between the Bajorans and the Cardassians don't seem right. Because I swear they quickly taken those responsibile for the attrocities at the end of DS9.

The events in the Romulan Empire seems plausible, due to the power vacuum at the end of Nemesis.

The Borg Queen recreation? Sounds stupid. Because the Borg wouldn't take forever to rebuild her, because they have backups or replacements ready. Remember the Queen that was lost during First Contact was quickly replaced by the one in Voyager.

As for 7 of 9, surely SFC would've put her to use immediately upon her return to Earth with Janeway and the Doctor in developing Borg Countermeasures. (Which I would like to see something to come out of this like Borg Anti-bodies that prevent the assimilation process).



The First ships of a class, typically have the honor of bearing the name of that type.

USS Galaxy = Galaxy-Class
USS Sovereign = Sovereign-class
USS Consitution = Consitution-class

So the Stargazer-A being the first ship means the class would be regarded as the Stargazer-class.

And personally, I suspect the "peace-sign" ship is most likely is the Stargazer-class. (If so, it doesn't sit well with me :mad:)


i'm willing to accept the borg scenario because of the 'have the cake and eat it too' gambit by janeway. the borg seemed devestated, so them getting back into the game at this point in time feels right to me.

[phifur]

The story is coming alone nicely :D

[MadDawgNX]

Actually, if anyone has been following the Star Trek books, which are now products of CBS, as is the game and the Star Trek brand as a whole, this sequence of events follows them quiet literally. The Borg conflict/invasion, along with the Romulan struggle, and Cardy relations. The books have done an excellent job on continuing the future of Star Trek, and its great to see the game rolling with those chain of events. :cool:

[willriker09]

Actually, if anyone has been following the Star Trek books, which are now products of CBS, as is the game and the Star Trek brand as a whole, this sequence of events follows them quiet literally. The Borg conflict/invasion, along with the Romulan struggle, and Cardy relations. The books have done an excellent job on continuing the future of Star Trek, and its great to see the game rolling with those chain of events. :cool:

This would be true, if half the books didn't contradict the other half. Thus why canon enthusiasts have issues with "soft canon". I don't have problems with the books, comics, and games and have owned and enjoyed a great many of them. Just accept that it is an extension off of what is really established in the Star Trek universe.

Who knows, there may be another TNG film to come out in the next few years that will completely contradict all of STO with its timeline.

[Whitefyre]

Nice! Thanks for the great story! Been looking forward to it. Cant wait til the next one comes! :D :D

[Stopher87]

If you mean Transphasic torpedoes no, not really. Thing you have to learn about Star Trek, temporal Paradoxes don't always cause immediate or even change the timeline in Star Trek, if at all. Considering the Federation has been using Transphasic torpedoes, Picard was launching quite a number of them in the second novel of the Star Trek Destiny trilogy.

I mean the technology that the future Captain Janeway brought back from the future to help the crew of the USS Voyager get home.

[SpaceTigerCross]

After what seems like a year has passed, the next update to our timeline has been posted, detailing the events of 2381.



Read more here! (http://www.startrekonline.com/timeline/2381)

No pressure, but remember of those ships aren't awesome your game will fail miserably :P

lol jk, but seriously... where are the pictures... :D

[clearymonkey]

Wow, that is an excellent addition to the time line. Thank you Razor and the Cryptic team.

I am interested to see the new look and style of the U.S.S. Stargazer - A ! I wonder if Captain Picard will be aboard the Stargazer for its Maiden flight?

With regards to Seven of Nine aiding Starfleets military project against the borg, does this mean bring forth, Transphasic Torpedos, Camoflage Technology, and Armour Tech? :D

[MarvelZombie]

Nice....12 pages in and no nerd-rage. Cryptic must really be doing their homework. Good job guys!

[Will_Lucky]

"Following increased activity by the Borg in the Alpha Quadrant including the possible recreation of a Borg Queen, Starfleet appoints Captain Jean-Luc Picard to lead the defense against the renewed threat."

Did anyone else find the bit about the Queen being recreated weird?

I was under the impression Borg queens weren't that hard to come by. I figured every complex and a good number of Tactical cubes had them but I guess their a little scarcer than I though.

It's from TNG novel series, I expect with 2382 we will see a 2nd one being created which leads to a major death.

[pyriel32]

If you mean Transphasic torpedoes no, not really. Thing you have to learn about Star Trek, temporal Paradoxes don't always cause immediate or even change the timeline in Star Trek, if at all. Considering the Federation has been using Transphasic torpedoes, Picard was launching quite a number of them in the second novel of the Star Trek Destiny trilogy.


wait the 3rd book is out? TO BORDERS I GO!!!

[Skywatch]

Excellent addition! I too am a bit curious as to what the new Stargazer will look like. Heck, I'm curious as to what ANY new ship will look like.


I'm kinda crazy that way.

[Mysticone622]

How the hell is Spock still alive?! Its been more than 200 years by now.

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/character/1112508.html

2230.....in 2381 spock will only be 151, still young compared to his father that died in TNG who was around 205 or so...

by the time of the game spock will still be alive

[Davies82]

Really enjoyed reading the latest installment of the timeline keep up the good work guys.
Very interesting indeed and in depth too.

[capgjt585]

by the time of the game spock will still be alive

I would qualify that statement with a probably. And Memory Alpha has 2232, not 2230 for the birthyear. Not a BIG deal, but worth noting.

[nsb2008]

Was glad to read another installment of the timeline - was too long since the last one! Very in-depth and informative. Was good to learn that Starfleet and the Federation are still going about their exploration efforts even though the Romulan Empire appears to be heading for trouble. I can't wait to get the game, I hope another update is due soon? Keep up the fab work guys... its great to see a team so dedicated to the Star Trek Online game, the info you've released so far makes me think it'll definitely worth the wait...

[wootonius]

Wow, there are so many different political strands. I can't wait to see what the new Stargazer looks like. (and if it will make a stop by the Maxia system any time soon :-p )

[Diabolik]

=/\= Amazing Time Line =/\=

[Gavon]

Was soo excited when i logged on today and saw this, it didnt disappoint! Loved it!

Thanks

[Calhoun]

Awesome news about the Stargazer-A... I wonder who will be the Captain? and what class will it be, Heavy Cruiser?

[Kahn773]

When will get the spec's on this new ship? Stargazer-A, science ship... wonder what she'll look like?

[Yavin_Prime]

Gloriuos simply glorious, I can't wait for 2382!!! :D

[picardalpha2clearance]

two words thank you

[DragonLight]

Nice Article :D

[Pacew]

I would of hated for the startrek story line to have ended after nemesis (altho i must say nemesis wasnt all that great :mad:)

[isoki]

Thats probably the class of ships we will start with when the game releases...

So when can we play?
:confused:

[Kelesh]

very trek !

[CmdrWoof]

No. We refer to the Enterprises as Enterprise - A and so on. It's the same thing.

I'm pretty sure that reference is made only for clarification (for reference, Sisko in the DS9 Tribble episode and the temporal agent dudes). The letter is part of the registry number, not the ship's name. It's 1701-A, not Enterprise-A.

For this to be consistent, the new class would have to be Stargazer class, while the ship herself could be the Stargazer NCC-(reg number)-A in honor of the previous ship, but I don't think this is done for any case except the Enterprise. It kinda sounds like the class is being designated with the A attached, which wouldn't make sense.
The vessel itself didn't seem to have enough clout in the 'Fleet to warrant this, so I'm a little skeptical with this move by Cryptic. It has value to Picard, but isn't that about it?

Edit: After all, there was a Defiant in TOS if I recall correctly, also a Hood and several other names I've heard in TNG, and there was definitely no A on Sisko's ship. What's the rationale?

[McManus]

Very interesting development. It was a good read and I can't wait to see the next bit added on to the timeline. I' particularly found the Romulan internal strifle coupled with the Reman upheaval to be of interest - keep us posted Cryptic :D.

[Tylor_Liles]

nice timeline..but a new ship class??? idk if that's a good move? why will we not be able to have at least one android on our ship??? i mean it is non canon(an small exception to the timeline maybe?)

[Tylor_Liles]

CmdrWoof- picard invented the picard maneuver with the stargazer and captain calhoun of the excalibur has a galaxy class excalibur(NCC-26517-A) in the star trek new frontier series

[callsign11b]

good time line add on
glade to see something come down.:)

[Blackfire2]

Interesting timeline, I'm not suprised by a new class of ship. I would expect that as newer technologies develop, to replace older aging classes like the excelsior.

Looking forward to reading more about what happens in romulan space. :)

[Dgleich]

It appears that photonic canon by the Doctor from Voyger is coming on U.S.S. Enterprise. Lol.:p

[ErinDarkstar]

Very good and the journey continues. :)

[MajorD]

Reman ships:
How? Where did they get their ships from? I hope they didn't build them themselves, the Scimitar is inexplicable enough, without the Remans some how being able to make fleets of ships in secret. The Scimitar can be explained by having it built by Shinzon's Romulan backers, but anything past that is a bit much. If they stole the ships from the Romulan military proper, then that's a bit odd too but makes sense.

shortages of food and supplies:
If Voyager could get through seven years without a proper supply chain I don't see how any Star Trek starship worthy of the name can't get through a measly three years without any source of supplies at all.

agricultural worlds
I know agricultural colonies have been mentioned in Trek but it never made sense to me them being major agricultural suppliers and not simply small colonies that have decided to be completely self sufficient. The idea of shipping food through space, especially in the sizes of ships we see in Trek, just doesn't make sense when you can grow locally, or just use replicators. Replicators are supposed to be power hogs but wouldn't shipping food by Starship across light years take even more energy?

Bajor:
Has it joined the Federation yet? I thought it was mentioned, but I didn't see it in the first timeline article.

Cardassia:
Cardassia's actions make sense but anyone who did commit war crimes should have already been brought to trial immidiatly after the Dominion War, not three years later. Even though they switched sides just before the end it wouldn't necessarily have protected them. Of course, that switch isn't a far fetched way to have completely avoided such trials. Look at Italy and check to see if any of their fascists faced trial after WWII, then you'll know whether it is or is not realistic.

possible recreation of a Borg Queen:
That's silly, it's just about impossible for the Queen not to be rebuilt. She was destroyed in the distant past in ST:First Contact, and then pops up later in Voyager. She can probably be built any time anywhere. Considering the Borg's past with cutting off parts of itself that are damaged, it's unlikely the virus that killed the Queen and transwarp network, in the final episode of Voyager, also killed off the programming for Queens all over the collective.

With the Queen never appearing until ST:First Contact, except for the Queen being retconned into Picard's assimilation, this line puts an overemphasis on whether or not the Queen still exists. With the Queen actually having been shown to disagree with the Borg on at least one point, it shows the collective can function just fine without her and that she imposes her will on the collective. The Borg would probably function better without her, considering her unhealthy fascination with Voyager.

research ways to use technology brought back from the Delta Quadrant by Voyager:
They should have been doing that for years already.

USS Stargazer-A:
Seriously? Any ship other than Enterprise getting to keep its NCC number with a letter suffix is such a huge fan contrivance. Even the Defiant didn't get that treatment, as stupid as it was, it got its name and number reused without any change, it even stayed NX instead of becoming NCC, on an already existing ship. But it still didn't get a letter suffix. Several names have been reused throughout the shows but the only number to ever be renewed is 1701.

Sure, there is one precedent, the fake Daedalus NX-01-A, and I'll give you the fact that no one batted an eye at that. However, that ship at least had two things going for it, when you assume it was a real Starfleet ship. First, it was the first of its kind, no other ship had its method of propulsion. Second, presumably, the number of Daedalus NX-01, which probably became NCC-01, indicates it being Starfleet's first commissioned starship with Earth as part of the Federation. Behind it is technological and historical revolution. What does the Stargazer have, Picard captaining it for a while and losing it in a minor battle to a Ferengi Daimon? I can't imagine it being special for its historical value, so it must be for its captain. But, why not just name a ship USS Jean Luc Picard, or reuse the name Stargazer with a different registry number?

[Syler_Akeron]

I'm pretty sure that reference is made only for clarification (for reference, Sisko in the DS9 Tribble episode and the temporal agent dudes). The letter is part of the registry number, not the ship's name. It's 1701-A, not Enterprise-A.

For this to be consistent, the new class would have to be Stargazer class, while the ship herself could be the Stargazer NCC-(reg number)-A in honor of the previous ship, but I don't think this is done for any case except the Enterprise. It kinda sounds like the class is being designated with the A attached, which wouldn't make sense.
The vessel itself didn't seem to have enough clout in the 'Fleet to warrant this, so I'm a little skeptical with this move by Cryptic. It has value to Picard, but isn't that about it?

Edit: After all, there was a Defiant in TOS if I recall correctly, also a Hood and several other names I've heard in TNG, and there was definitely no A on Sisko's ship. What's the rationale?

I was referencing what Trek fans call the ships. They never say "enterprise A,B,C,D" in the show because there's never more than one Enterprise in service at the time. The simple fact is that we have no clue about the majority of Starfleet's ships. We've barely seen a handfull of them in the shows to fully know how Starfleet names the ships and registers them. As far as we, the viewer, have seen is only the Enterprise name being moved forward with the continuous registration number followed by the alpha value. I feel Cryptic is fully within their bounds to name a class and register a ship however they want.

[Duckdee]

I'm going to say that the Stargazer A is an indiicator that we'll get letters for our ships.

First to Z wins! :p

[DarianDrakon]

:D Love the update and I can't wait for more!

As for the ship naming and registry number business, the only reason the Defiant didn't get the official NCC-74205-A painted on her hull was because it was cheaper to not change the model they already had for filming plus they reused old shots of the original defiant with the NX-74205. Now for a canon reason, you could easily say that they didn't waste the time on repainting the registry on the ship because they were still in the Dominion War and didn't want to waste time on trivial matters.

[DFawkes]

I have to say I love it every time a new piece of the story gets given. The fact they're few and far between makes them all the sweeter when we get them :)

The fact Picard is in charge of anti-Borg duties would suggest we'll probably get some missions from him. Even if not, I can't wait for STO.

[Dominion1971]

Judging from the time frame that went between the first Timeline post and this one, I would say that that the game is far off in its release date for real.. this saddens me.. Oh. well.. Always got Lich King!!

[Nyanya]

I'm pretty sure that reference is made only for clarification (for reference, Sisko in the DS9 Tribble episode and the temporal agent dudes). The letter is part of the registry number, not the ship's name. It's 1701-A, not Enterprise-A.

For this to be consistent, the new class would have to be Stargazer class, while the ship herself could be the Stargazer NCC-(reg number)-A in honor of the previous ship, but I don't think this is done for any case except the Enterprise. It kinda sounds like the class is being designated with the A attached, which wouldn't make sense.
Or they could've just written it like that in the history for, you know, clarification (to make it clear to the readers that it's a new ship and not Picard's old ship).



What does the Stargazer have, Picard captaining it for a while and losing it in a minor battle to a Ferengi Daimon? I can't imagine it being special for its historical value, so it must be for its captain. But, why not just name a ship USS Jean Luc Picard, or reuse the name Stargazer with a different registry number?
It could just be that Picard had a hand in the naming of the ship or such.



Judging from the time frame that went between the first Timeline post and this one, I would say that that the game is far off in its release date for real.. this saddens me.. Oh. well.. Always got Lich King!!
There is no guarantee (that I know of) that:

1. They'll finish the path to 2409 before release.
2. They keep the same timeframe between posts.

It is quite possible that they might post several updates in one week sometime in the future or such. Or maybe they'll give the second half of the path in the manual. Or something like that.

[starfleet101]

very well put, starfleet is rebuilding very nicely, even though the dominion war, and the borg, have left scars, but a time of peace has started. this is great work.

[Brenelael]

Very good read... Nice job and thanks for the update! :D

Bren

[Ltfngr]

It seems that whenever a ship is destroyed and a replacement is made, the letter designations apply.

For example, Enterprise, Enterprise-A...Enterprise-E. Only one ship is named Enterprise.

However, the 'class' of a ship never actually has that designation. Enterprise was a Constellation-class. Enterprise-A was called an Enterprise-class. Enterprise-E is a Galaxy-class, etc.

The 'class' name should be Stargazer-class. The designation of the ship is Stargazer-A.

[rikeromega]

The argument has been made the the Enterprise-A was just a refit Constitution class vessel as well as being referred to as an Enterprise-class vessel. I don't know that the Stargazer-A would HAVE to be named Stargazer-class.

[Catamount]

You know, I'm not sure what to make of Commander Donatra. I'm not sure whether to classify her as a villain or more of a "good guy". First she takes part in a plot to assassinate the entire Romulan Senate, then she risks her ship and that of her strongest political ally to actively stop Shinzon from annihilating Earth. While this could be seen as just a political move to sever herself from the dying Shinzon, her demeanor during the affair, her stated disdain for the idea of eradicating a planet (even one threatening to the Empire) and her demeanor towards Picard suggests someone of a little more moral integrity and with a greater interest in peace than your average Romulan fleet commander.
Now she's just off on a bid for power by conquering Romulan worlds. What a fascinating person. I wonder how her treatment of their populations compares with what they suffered through under their former rulers.

The argument has been made the the Enterprise-A was just a refit Constitution class vessel as well as being referred to as an Enterprise-class vessel. I don't know that the Stargazer-A would HAVE to be named Stargazer-class.

Classes are usually named after the first of their type, which would suggest that it might be a "Stargazer" class, although it's also possible that the class gets named after one of the sister ships instead, the names of which we are unaware.

[9thDalekanium]

I think Donatra would be a good Fed Ambassador. The RSE is in tatters, she helped destroy a huge threat to the Feds and now it seems that this story is making her into a teen weeny bit of a villain.

[Feryk]

I have to say I love it every time a new piece of the story gets given. The fact they're few and far between makes them all the sweeter when we get them :)

The fact Picard is in charge of anti-Borg duties would suggest we'll probably get some missions from him. Even if not, I can't wait for STO.

The timeline is only complete until 2381. That's a heck of a long time before 2409. Don't count on Spock, Picard, etc. being around. Others have postulated a lot of assumptions based on this one post, but EVERYTHING can change over the next 28 years of timeline.

[BenAcord]

I like them bringing Picard and Seven of Nine into one story. I agree with the need for pics of the
Stargazer-A immediatley :-) I hope its part of the Prometheus Class.

UM.......Actually the Prometheus-class prototype was already built (Message in a Bottle(VGR)) and they said the Stargazer-A would be of a new class. My guess is it will be called the Stargazer-class and its number will be NX-2893-A.

Still, I would like to see it in action in the game

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CaptSiskotheSecond
captin of:
U.S.S. Indiana
Nova-class
NCC-92035

[DarianDrakon]

It seems that whenever a ship is destroyed and a replacement is made, the letter designations apply.

For example, Enterprise, Enterprise-A...Enterprise-E. Only one ship is named Enterprise.

However, the 'class' of a ship never actually has that designation. Enterprise was a Constellation-class. Enterprise-A was called an Enterprise-class. Enterprise-E is a Galaxy-class, etc.

The 'class' name should be Stargazer-class. The designation of the ship is Stargazer-A.

;) Hmmm... just so the facts are straight, Enterprise (NCC-1701) was a Constitution Class, Enterprise-A was a Constitution Class Refit, and the Enterprise-E is/was a Sovereign Class.

As for the new class of ship that will include the Stargazer-A, they do not specify that she is the first of the class, but merely one of the first. Therefore we cannot assume that the class will be called Stargazer. We'll just have to wait to see. Of course, I would prefer it be the Stargazer Class because that name just seems fitting to its described purpose. :cool:

[ldgnlbeowolf]

Im enjoying these time lines, i cant wait to read more.
Keep them coming great writing!

[Esp]

Spock was born in 2230, 2381 is 161 years after that (duh =p) so it's more than reasonable for spock to be alive.. even by 2409. I'm not entirely sure if Spock's half-human blood would shorten his life from the usual 200+ years of a normal Vulcan though..

Awesome political jazz going on with the Romulans. Keep it up, if only a little more frequently (Y) =]

[TalAram]

The timeline laid out looks really promising... a lot of activity that really sets up the game for a lot of different action. Exploration or Battle... a trekkies worst decision... :p

[Cezarion]

The mention of Bajor (and some other worlds) wanting extradition of war criminals and such from Cardassia (in 2381) apparently seems to contradict what was in the post-season7 DS9 novels. Maybe Cryptic is choosing not to take inspiration from that part of the "soft canon"? It could have something to do with the fact that it is taking place before Star Trek: Nemesis. Any thoughts? This issue should be explained more.

[WinterPark1701]

Ya so I just now read these and I liked what I found over all, the only thing I didn't dig was Dr. Crusher going back to the Enterprise after her tour at Starfleet med, it seems like it would be taking a promotion only to take a demotion again. Going back to the Enterprise seems like it would be a step back in her career. Maybe I'm just thinking too much like a guy with almost 10 years in the Army eh?

[Dave-Star-Trek]

After what seems like a year has passed, the next update to our timeline has been posted, detailing the events of 2381.



Read more here! (http://www.startrekonline.com/timeline/2381)

Hello i'm wondering will I be able to walk inside the Stargazer? What' will it look like? And will Captain Picard be in this game? e-mail me abck please from Dave At dave.lasalle@yahoo.com

[Rangerrob]

Ya so I just now read these and I liked what I found over all, the only thing I didn't dig was Dr. Crusher going back to the Enterprise after her tour at Starfleet med, it seems like it would be taking a promotion only to take a demotion again. Going back to the Enterprise seems like it would be a step back in her career. Maybe I'm just thinking too much like a guy with almost 10 years in the Army eh?

Looking to get closer to Picard would be my guess. ;)

[THORN74]

I'm pretty sure that reference is made only for clarification (for reference, Sisko in the DS9 Tribble episode and the temporal agent dudes). The letter is part of the registry number, not the ship's name. It's 1701-A, not Enterprise-A.

For this to be consistent, the new class would have to be Stargazer class, while the ship herself could be the Stargazer NCC-(reg number)-A in honor of the previous ship, but I don't think this is done for any case except the Enterprise. It kinda sounds like the class is being designated with the A attached, which wouldn't make sense.
The vessel itself didn't seem to have enough clout in the 'Fleet to warrant this, so I'm a little skeptical with this move by Cryptic. It has value to Picard, but isn't that about it?

Edit: After all, there was a Defiant in TOS if I recall correctly, also a Hood and several other names I've heard in TNG, and there was definitely no A on Sisko's ship. What's the rationale?


first off i dought the class will be a stargazer class ...it didnt sound like she was the first built in the class.

second, the "honor" of letter designation is directed at picard, not the ship. It should be inferred that they named a new ship stargazer and then kept the registry number adding -A to honor picards years of service. This is the same process starfleet used for naming kirks new ship "enterprise ncc-1701-a" the ship was a constitution "refit" bult new from the keel up originally named Ti Ho, and changed to honor kirks service.

the big question is will picard be here captian? will he leave the enterprise? is the enterprise destroyed, and that why he needs an new ship?

[Gene]

I 'm not sure how much longer I can wait! Great timeline update and I'm sure the new starship class is gorgeous. Keep up the good work!

[Crux]

Following increased activity by the Borg in the Alpha Quadrant including the possible recreation of a Borg Queen, Starfleet appoints Captain Jean-Luc Picard to lead the defense against the renewed threat. He calls on Seven of Nine to research ways to use technology brought back from the Delta Quadrant by Voyager to either directly combat the Borg or to give the Federation an advantage in the coming battle.

Two ex Borg working together...me likes. Now all they need is Hugh.

More ship classes ftw! I hope it at least looks like the old constellation class.

Donatra vs Tal'aura ? Hmm, cat fight!

[Silverspar]

It seems that whenever a ship is destroyed and a replacement is made, the letter designations apply.

For example, Enterprise, Enterprise-A...Enterprise-E. Only one ship is named Enterprise.

However, the 'class' of a ship never actually has that designation. Enterprise was a Constellation-class. Enterprise-A was called an Enterprise-class. Enterprise-E is a Galaxy-class, etc.

The 'class' name should be Stargazer-class. The designation of the ship is Stargazer-A.

Correction, both the NCC-1701 and 1701-A were Constitution-classes, not a Constellation. The Stargazer was a Constellation class.

The Enterprise has been the following classes;

NX series
Constitution x 2
Excelsior
Ambassador
Galaxy
Sovereign

[Ayradyss]

Thanks much for the update! Lots of good stuff in there. I'm definitely looking foward to more! :)

[Itsomi]

"The Stargazer-A and her sister ships will be the first of a new class of starships designed for scientific research and exploration."

oh man, please show us some pictures of her!

[miklamar]

I love your new situations! It has been a long dry spell for many of us. The Romulan civil war sounds intriguing, replete with opportunities for development!
Don't you think the Federation should follow up on Ambassador Spock's recommendations? Especially, offering humanitarian aid? Isn't that what the Federation stands for?
Is General Martok still commanding the Klingon Empire? He was older than Worf, wasn't he? I can't imagine that several ambitious, younger officers have not tried to stage a major coup d'etat, already! I like General Martok, but how long can he continue?
I'm not a big fan of the Cardassians. Are they still cohesive, after their Dominion War waffling? I would prefer to see the Klingons expand in that sector.
As most of you have said, we love the Next Generation and Voyager crews. But, realistically, aren't they getting a bit long in the tooth? It's so sad to see your heroes age--especially, when you don't see many new leaders stepping up.
Just as a hoot--Wouldn't it be fun to see Admiral Riker and Chief Engineer Broccoli--I mean, Barclay--together on a starship? Too bad Data got destroyed. Maybe they could mix some of the Next Generation and Voyager favorites into a new series or movie! That would be fantastic!
One question--Why are the Federation starships called U.S.S.--like the US Navy ships--instead of U.F.P.? I think that should be changed, don't you?
:p

[Ltfngr]

Correction, both the NCC-1701 and 1701-A were Constitution-classes, not a Constellation. The Stargazer was a Constellation class.

The Enterprise has been the following classes;

NX series
Constitution x 2
Excelsior
Ambassador
Galaxy
Sovereign

Yeah, I know I typed it wrong, but I didnt have time to go back and fix it.

Thanks.

[THORN74]

As most of you have said, we love the Next Generation and Voyager crews. But, realistically, aren't they getting a bit long in the tooth? It's so sad to see your heroes age--especially, when you don't see many new leaders stepping up.

One question--Why are the Federation starships called U.S.S.--like the US Navy ships--instead of U.F.P.? I think that should be changed, don't you?
:p

1: many of them would be in their late 60s or early 70s which wouldnt preclude them from active duty since humand in TNG can live up to 150 yrs (picard would be 104, so he probably retired)

2: the USS prefix to the ships names is due to tradition (Gene had said it was united star ship, others united space ship) and no they shouldnt change it.

[prime7619]

Great story line guys!! Can't wait for more:D THIS GAME IS GOING TO ROCK!!!!!

[KirksOtherSon]

Very much appreciated! Thank you so much for the update. Every detail had me anticipating what's to come -- and that's a good thing!

KOS

[lootra]

i like how it mentions the tng ep where spock is found in romulan space

[MajorD]

It could just be that Picard had a hand in the naming of the ship or such.
That's what I'm assuming, but it still doesn't explain why the name is not reused on its own, but instead has a registry reuse. Everything done of consequence by Picard, was done on the Enterprise and it's the Enterprise which he acknowledges as a special ship.

[nsb2008]

Recommend reading:
USS Titan Star Trek Novel Series
The Articles of Federation
Death in Winter
Destiny Series to start with, I am sure other's can recommend more that they see STO following for ideas so far.

So far I like what I see in the Romulan Empire(s) Tal Aura versus Empress Donatra along with the Remen/Klingon alliance, will make for some interesting continuing story.

Who cares about the Cardassians? :rolleyes: (j/k)

I've read all of Titan books, the Articles of the Federation and Death in Winter too... all fantastic reads, as I recall. I've not heard of Destiny? I'll have to look into this and get brought up to speed!

[SoongType]

Two ex Borg working together...me likes. Now all they need is Hugh.

More ship classes ftw! I hope it at least looks like the old constellation class.

Donatra vs Tal'aura ? Hmm, cat fight!

Lol,i agree.
Thanx for the new time-line!

[nsb2008]

You are totally right about the class!!!! If it were the first of its class it should bear the serial # of nx as first of class!!!! Hopefully the U.S.S. STARGAZER-A will be explained by cryptic in further updates!!!:):cool:

People have mentioned that the prototype, or the first ship in a new class, MUST have the NX designation. Where is this rule?? Like in Star Trek III, the Excelsior (the first in its class) had the NX prefix ONLY while in testing stages. When it entered the fleet after trials, under Captain Sulu, she had an NCC registry number.

[nsb2008]

"The Stargazer-A and her sister ships will be the first of a new class of starships designed for scientific research and exploration."

oh man, please show us some pictures of her!

Amen to that! Soooo looking forward to seeing pictures of the Stargazer-A - I like the Nova Class design for a science-based vessel, but wondering what the design of the new Stargazer will be like.

Does anyone remember the USS Rhode Island that a future Captain Harry Kim was in command of??? In the Voyager finale?? That to me appeared to be a bigger and better beefed up version of the Nova-class... very nice indeed.

[nsb2008]

Donatra vs Tal'aura ? Hmm, cat fight!

I gotta admit, I like the sound of this too. I have to say though... I doubt very much that Tal'aura will hold onto the Praetor-ship for very long. Her grip on power seemed to be tenuous at best in the Titan books and now that Donatra has emerged to directly challenge her authority, is it possible that there will be a new Romulan Praetor in the next few installments of the timeline?? Only time will tell. I do know this though, I don't trust Tal'aura at all, and I'll bet you bottom dollar that others may agree too (at least I hope so!)

Donatra, through the film AND the first few Titan books, emerged as an ally to Captains Picard and Riker, to have her as head of the Romulan Star Empire would, in my humble opinion, put diplomatic relations with the Federation back on the table.

As for Unification... who knows? I like the idea of the two races finding a common ground. However, emotion is a cornerstone of the Romulan psyche. You can't expect the Vulcans to look around this, they've made it a major part of their philosophy to control it and look on the side of logic, which they revere above all else.

In any event, the next update in the timeline will be eagerly awaited by the guys and gals in these forums, and I hope that some of the above questions will be answered. Bring it on Cryptic! I can't wait to see what you do next. So far so good.... and keep up the brilliant work people!! You guys have done much more that that the previous firm who had the STO license EVER did.

[Vessik]

A coalition of planets led by Bajor demand that members of the Cardassian government and military stand trial for crimes against sentient beings for actions taken during the Occupation of Bajor and the Dominion War. The Cardassian government refuses any request to surrender its citizens for prosecution, so the coalition appeals to the Federation Council and the Klingon High Council to join them in seeking justice for past crimes.



This is good news for Cardassia. They should not and will not bow down to the demands of the pathetic Bajorans, or any other lesser race for that matter. People believe the Cardassian Union is at it's end. I however see a time of rebuilding that will eventually bring them back as a major player in the galaxy (much like Germans from WWI to WWII). Let others underestimate them, for it will just be a tool they can use to their advantage. I personally look forward to seeing the Cardassian Union rise once more.

[Ensign.Ricky]

I like seeing characters from the different series interacting. It makes the universe feel much bigger but at the same time closer together. What is this technology brought back from the Delta quadrant?

Did someone say Stargazer? Man oh man, I would love nothing more than a stylish return of the old style ships!

Great to see more timeline bullets. Please keep them coming cryptic!

[rslaz]

like how it picks up after ST X

[MajorD]

I like seeing characters from the different series interacting. It makes the universe feel much bigger but at the same time closer together. What is this technology brought back from the Delta quadrant?
Did you watch Voyager?

[bonzaicomp]

Well, i have to admit it was nice to finally read a storyline that made some sense. Im glad we get to see something. Im sad perpetual didnt get to make it, i sense they had bigger ideas, but hey thats why it didnt work. I have faith in cryptics ability to make good storylines :)

[MagusSchneider]

hey, that was a good text.

[Rishana]

Very nice. If you guys make the game as good as the storyline, then we will should not be disappointed.:D

[GreyWolf91]

Nice job...I can't wait to see how the story unfolds.

[Thom_Hamic]

This is the first officer of the USS Hero....... Our long range sensors have failed and weapons are at 22% An unknown craft dissabled us and....... Damnit! our transporters have failed now as well.... We need help as soon as possible...... Does anyone read?

[RT_Tiberius_03]

How the hell is Spock still alive?! Its been more than 200 years by now.

I do believe that vulcans live well over 200 years. Sarek, Spocks father makes an appearance in TNG season 3 and is around 204 years old.

You could raise the point that Spock is only half Vulcan though, so there might be something to your question.

[GoCho85]

Awesome, nice story, hope this will bei offically and the real continue of ST. :)
Darn so long until release. :/

[Kilawpilath]

I can't wait to hear more.

Especially concerning Captian Picard and of Seven of Nine. I look foward to finding out what kind of technological breakthroughs she comes up with.

And the new Stargazer-A sounds interesting. Keep up the good work :)

[MARTINA125]

Seems too be comeing along well keep up the good work

[rikeromega]

In case anyone is interested...I know this is a lame plug but there it is...

[rikeromega]

http://www.youtube.com/sohoboriker

[Korris]

PFFT. More Fedahration propoganda...talk talk talk...does anyone here actually believe this....this is all a ploy....as if the Romulan internal struggle is any of Klingon High Council business.....more Fedahration lies ...no true Klingon warrior should believe this tripe....the Council knows all and WILL act as required...they should STRIKE now while the Romulan forces are at their weakest....as TRUE warriors ....we shall conquer our long time enemies and obliterate them from the quadrant.

[Slayer_ninja_13]

PFFT. More Fedahration propoganda...talk talk talk...does anyone here actually believe this....this is all a ploy....as if the Romulan internal struggle is any of Klingon High Council business.....more Fedahration lies ...no true Klingon warrior should believe this tripe....the Council knows all and WILL act as required...they should STRIKE now while the Romulan forces are at their weakest....as TRUE warriors ....we shall conquer our long time enemies and obliterate them from the quadrant.

i think the Klingon would care because after the dominion war the klingon took just as much damage as the federation, and if the klingon dont watch there back the fighting could spill out in there back yard. So i think this little fight between the romulans could end up damage the klingons empire even more then they think.

[achaney23]

Hot and cold running awesomeness!

I want to see THAT movie made. Forget JJ's little project.

[Davies82]

Good work with the timeline so far guys really enjoyed reading it. Does this mean now we've had a new one that the timeline updates are back on track for one every month as mentioned in game informer?

[frojoe2004]

See this is great. I don't know why the franchise is stuck with all this prequel crap.

The new movies and TV series should be made about this time period, it all sound very interesting and your not limited in the stories you can tell.

You guys should head over to CBS and ask to make a TV series that involves the time between STX and STO. that would be a great watch!!!

[Dgleich]

This is going to be great. Maybe they've come up with EMH-Photonic canon idea. LOL.

[cia1209]

when does the game start?sorry i just joined,cuz i just heard about star trek online.

[Re4_wesker]

sounds good. so does this mean the recent books involving the borg (resistence, before dishonor, greater then the sum, and the destiny series) be considered canon?

i look forward to the next update.

[siondark1]

I just got an account could you fill me in a little bit?

[Ensign.Ricky]

Did you watch Voyager?

I missed a few towards the end. I always hear about something called Janeway torpedos but I don't remember much of any anti-Borg tech...

But gotta give props to Jean-Luc for finding a way to get 7 assigned to him. That man is brilliant. :D

[Darkharbenger]

Every time I read one of these post it only makes the waiting more painful, but wait I shall as will we all.

[NightCrawler669]

I gotta say, I'm diggin it.

[The_Stetz]

Hmmmm. Bajorans are upset, Romulans are having problems and the Borg are causing trouble...yet again. Seems like nothing has changed....Wait Seven and Jean-Luc working together and a new class of starship. Very nice work Razor on the timeline. Looking forward on more of this.

[Kenrod]

I missed a few towards the end. I always hear about something called Janeway torpedos but I don't remember much of any anti-Borg tech...

Find a way to watch "Endgame." It's awesome. The Janeway torpedoes are trans-phasic, from a future version of Janeway. Destruction of a cube with one torpedo is some glorious stuff. There was also armor mounted to the hull, which was awesome as well.

[Li_Xiao]

Find a way to watch "Endgame." It's awesome. The Janeway torpedoes are trans-phasic, from a future version of Janeway. Destruction of a cube with one torpedo is some glorious stuff. There was also armor mounted to the hull, which was awesome as well.

They're actually called Multi-Phasic Torpedoes, I believe. The Retractable Armor Plating mounted to Voyager's Hull is called Ablative Armor Plating. It's the predecessor to the material the Enterprise E's Hull is actually made out of. So you all can thank Admiral Janeway and a possible future for the battle beast that is the USS Enterprise E. :D As cool as the storyline and tech was, it always felt to me like they came up with it because they couldn't find any 'conventional' way to get Voyager home and end the series. I also always got the feeling that the end of the series was always going to be Voyager getting home, but the writers and people never really thought about how that was going to be achieved. Then they were put behind the 8-Ball, so to speak, when the network cancelled the show. They were like, "Oh crap! We have to get them home NOW!" So it always felt like a cop-out to say, "Let's give them potential technology in their future so we can make up something that's not even possible with their current technology so we cane end the show properly." However, I will say this: Endgame gave the fans something they had wanted since TNG. It gave them the heart of the Borg Collective. And I think that was beyond cool. :D

[Markham_Karis]

Thanks for the Log Entry! I enjoy reading these and this one is really showing us the state of the Sector, both politically and militarily. It seems the UFP is also at the center of any resolution to the conflicts surrounding it; a role well-suited for the UFP.

[ajap77]

Thanks for the update to the game storyline. Hope we can have more soon.

[redemption58]

awesome, can't wait. Keep up the good work!

[Joshfr3]

They're actually called Multi-Phasic Torpedoes, I believe. The Retractable Armor Plating mounted to Voyager's Hull is called Ablative Armor Plating. It's the predecessor to the material the Enterprise E's Hull is actually made out of. So you all can thank Admiral Janeway and a possible future for the battle beast that is the USS Enterprise E. :D As cool as the storyline and tech was, it always felt to me like they came up with it because they couldn't find any 'conventional' way to get Voyager home and end the series. I also always got the feeling that the end of the series was always going to be Voyager getting home, but the writers and people never really thought about how that was going to be achieved. Then they were put behind the 8-Ball, so to speak, when the network cancelled the show. They were like, "Oh crap! We have to get them home NOW!" So it always felt like a cop-out to say, "Let's give them potential technology in their future so we can make up something that's not even possible with their current technology so we cane end the show properly." However, I will say this: Endgame gave the fans something they had wanted since TNG. It gave them the heart of the Borg Collective. And I think that was beyond cool. :D

They were called transphasic torps, just for the record. Secondly, they didn't "cancel" voyager, it was the final season. All of the treks (except for the original series and enterprise) ran for 7 seasons. Voyager was planned on running for seven seasons. Therefore, they knew on day one when they needed to get them home. If you watch the extras on the last disk of the 7th season dvd set you'll learn a lot about how they decided on how to end the series. They actually almost left it open-ended (with voyager still in the delta quadrant), but decided against it (obviously).

[Sparrk]

Im just wondering what the New movie is going to do with the continuity, with spock apparently traveling back in time in it, and how that might affect the timeline being planned out by kryptic.

[USS_Paragon]

Great stuff. Things are brewing in the Alpha Quadrant. Keep the story churning!;)

[torn51]

nice read for sure

[rikeromega]

"The Retractable Armor Plating mounted to Voyager's Hull is called Ablative Armor Plating." Ablative Armour was designed for the USS Defiant on Deep Space Nine. Although this is the Enterprise E's hull material, the "E" was built and space-ready prior to the demise of Voyager. They never defined the Borg-proof Armour. It was just referred to as "armour".

[jbodensteiner]

Does this timeline involve the events of the book triology Destiny

[Equino]

What i'm curious is to how the borg have advanced since beening exposed to the future technologies that voyager used on them during the ships return home. that new armor system would surely make a cube all but invincible. you combine the new armor with the ability of the borg to use regeneration and you've got one tough ship to attack.

[Sinson]

Actually, I have to disagree with you there. If you notice, the first of the class (Galaxy, Luna, Excelsior, Defiant, etc), usually has an NX designation at first to denote its role as prototype of that new class. Letters are assigned when a ship has already previously been named that. The most classic example of this is the Enterprise (and most people either know the A or the D). That went as follows:

USS Enterprise XCV 330 – Pre-starfleet Earth ship
Enterprise NX-01 - NX class
USS Enterprise NCC-1701 – Constitution-class
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A – Constitution-class refit
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-B – Excelsior-class variant
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-C – Ambassador-class
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D – Galaxy-class
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-E – Sovereign-class
USS Enterprise NCC-1701-J – Possible future ship

So, logically, the Stargazer-A would simply be the second ship to be named such. It tells nothing about the class at all. Most likely, it'll be whatever new ship Cryptic wants to make as the iconic standard of ST:O, much like the Galaxy was for TNG and forward, and the Luna class is for Titan novels.

If you want to know more about the previous Stargazer, which was PIcard's earlier command, look here:
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/USS_Stargazer

Thanks for posting this ive always wanted to know how what the class of each enterprise was i would most likly go for the Sovereign class because i love the enterprise e Thanks :D

[JayGallego]

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[FAZeus]

I'm disappointed that they chose the romulan government to be in disarray the romulan military took all of the reman scientists and there designs and blueprints etc after the shinzon incident so can someone plz tell me how remans have working ships to defy the romulan empire and how dinatra is defying the senate this makes no sense the Romulan Star Empire Shall Not Be Conquered By The Klingon's Or Starfleet Razor Plz Plz Shed Some Light Don't Let My Romulan Brother's And Sister's End Up Fighting Like Savage Klingon Dogs .Plz Use Your creative Genius To Put The Quadrant Back Into Balance.

Thank You

Commander P'lutra Ri'Charan
Commanding Officer
Romulan Imperial Ship Leviathan-A
Paroling The Neutral Zone

[Hall]

to be honest i would expect the updates to be better written. more detail, more frequent, and more creative.

[rickardxtra]

wow this timeline seems like its really going to be kicking. cant wait to see the new ship design. I always had a love for the stargazer , not sure why .lol

[NicholasRaine]

Seriously, Bajor needs to GTF over it. How many years has it been since the occupation? No wonder Cardassia told them no. It saddens me that they are turning Bajor back into a bunch of whiny little (^%$#)'s. Cardassia got wbat was due to them when they allied with the Dominion. Let the past be the past, and get over it!

outside of that, super update. :)

[capgjt585]

Seriously, Bajor needs to GTF over it. How many years has it been since the occupation? No wonder Cardassia told them no. It saddens me that they are turning Bajor back into a bunch of whiny little (^%$#)'s. Cardassia got wbat was due to them when they allied with the Dominion. Let the past be the past, and get over it!

Maybe it'll be easier for them to "let it go" if the Federation dangles membership conditional upon it as a carrot?:D

[rikeromega]

Would you tell the Jews and gays to get over the holocaust? Would you tell indigenous peoples to get over the loss of their native lands, the usurpation of their cultures, and the removal of their inborn spirituality to Christianity by and large? You have to look at these things in relation to the grander picture. Cardassia, even at this point, hasn't atoned for their war crimes. They just left Bajor. And they left with several Orbs of the Prophets and others artifacts at that. There is more to it.

[capgjt585]

Well, at this point, Cardassia is no longer a major political or military player, so the Federation might now be able to right some wrongs concerning Bajor that they couldn't do before, probably in terms of "We'll give you aid if you return what you stole from Bajor back to it." And of course the Cardassians may balk at first, but in the end they probably won't be able to keep saying no because of their need. Admittedly, it is quite "strong-armed" for the Federation, but it would satisfy Bajoran complaints.

[Nyanya]

Well, at this point, Cardassia is no longer a major political or military player, so the Federation might now be able to right some wrongs concerning Bajor that they couldn't do before, probably in terms of "We'll give you aid if you return what you stole from Bajor back to it." And of course the Cardassians may balk at first, but in the end they probably won't be able to keep saying no because of their need. Admittedly, it is quite "strong-armed" for the Federation, but it would satisfy Bajoran complaints.
You're forgetting the Klingons.

"the coalition appeals to the Federation Council and the Klingon High Council to join them in seeking justice for past crimes"

I've got this strong feeling that Cardassia will be part of the Klingons and/or that this'll be the catalyst for the schism between the Federation and the Klingons.

[JamesSavik]

Because the Romulan Empire is so insular, it is probably a good idea to stay out of it let them sort it out for themselves.

It is possible to offer humanitarian aid- perhaps via neutral third parties and to render aid and assistance to refugees.

Any attempt to intervene will result in uniting opposing factions against outside interference.

FOLLOW THE PRIME DIRECTIVE. It is the PRIME DIRECTIVE for a good reason.

Hard line elements within the Empire will expect the Federation to invade during the chaos of the Civil War. BY refusing to take advantage of the situation in an overt manner, the Federation may put itself into a position to acheive better relations with the resulting goverenment.

[JamesSavik]

Everyone is still recovering from the Dominion War an another conflct in the sector is niether useful or desired.

The best way to handle this situation is aggressive diplomacy. If necessary key Cardassian figures wanted for war crimes can be tried in absentia. If or when or if they leave Cardassian territory, they can be arrested and detained.

Cardassia may object but it is doubtful that they would go to war over the seizure of an individual Gul branded a war criminal by an interstellar tribunal.

[JamesSavik]

The Borg have to be considered the number one threat to the security of the Federation, Federation allies, neutral parties and even hostile powers like the Rommulans and the Breen.

I suggest that we continue to work closely with other Alpha and Beta quadrant goverenments to mount a united front against Borg incursions.

As a temporary measure Borg hunter-killer groups should be formed out of Federation, Klingon and other allied war ships.

Considering the lessons learned by the Wolf 359 disaster, it is suggested that anti-Borg Quick Reaction Forces be stationed at strategic points in Federation an allied space. These forces should be composed not the large federation ships of the line like Galaxy class starships but of newer types like the Defiant and other ships curently in development. The idea is to put the largest amount of firepower in a small, fast nimble and expendable package.

On the technical side it may be time to create a joint research facility to develop weapons and defensive systems to counter the Borg. This is tricky in that in weapons sharing technology with other races like the Klingons, we may one day face those weapons on the battlefield. This is a difficult choice and the danger of the Borg vs future consequences of weapons proliferation must be weighed very carefully.

Furthermore it is suggested that no Borg incursion go unanswered. Any Borg scout sphere or cube that eneters the Alpha or beta quadrants must be destroyed because their tactics to date suggest that they look for weakness and then apply overwhelming force.

As this is an unfoldig situation, this file will remain open.

Summary Ends.

[Teejo08]

Definitely agree the Borg are the big threat. But with all this upheaval in the Romulan Empire etc. etc. Uniting to fight the Borg is going to be difficult and i can see the federation suffering in the face of all these problems hitting it at the same time.

Fighting the Borg with those nimble, well armed ships is a good idea but can Starfleet spare enough vessels to secure strategic objectives in Federation/Allied space? Akira's and Defiants are probably the best suited for this, the Defiant was designed as an "Anti-Borg" ship and the Akira is an out and out Battle Cruiser. On this note how many ships do Starfleet have roughly? I heard that they only have what 50 odd ships at a time (Based on the Wolf 359 disaster 30 something ships destroyed stated as 2/3 of the fleet??)

I have no idea how to deal with the growing Romulan and Reman unrest and theres no doubt the cardassians/Dominion will try and take advantage of all this!

Good job with the Timeline BTW!

[pyriel32]

sounds good. so does this mean the recent books involving the borg (resistence, before dishonor, greater then the sum, and the destiny series) be considered canon?

i look forward to the next update.

Soft cannon but it would be awsome if they did use some of the story line from those books .........i guess i just want a luna class ship lol. i have just finished reading the 2nd destiny nook and all i can say is wow things are really turning fubar reather quickly for the alpha quadrent.

[Capt_Dux]

What is happening on the Federation Home worlds? I hope all is going O.K.
But if I know the Federation there is alot going wrong there.

-Capt_Dux
awaiting ship assignment
Shadow Fleet

[rikeromega]

The Borg have to be considered the number one threat to the security of the Federation, Federation allies, neutral parties and even hostile powers like the Rommulans and the Breen.

I suggest that we continue to work closely with other Alpha and Beta quadrant goverenments to mount a united front against Borg incursions.

As a temporary measure Borg hunter-killer groups should be formed out of Federation, Klingon and other allied war ships.

Considering the lessons learned by the Wolf 359 disaster, it is suggested that anti-Borg Quick Reaction Forces be stationed at strategic points in Federation an allied space. These forces should be composed not the large federation ships of the line like Galaxy class starships but of newer types like the Defiant and other ships curently in development. The idea is to put the largest amount of firepower in a small, fast nimble and expendable package.

On the technical side it may be time to create a joint research facility to develop weapons and defensive systems to counter the Borg. This is tricky in that in weapons sharing technology with other races like the Klingons, we may one day face those weapons on the battlefield. This is a difficult choice and the danger of the Borg vs future consequences of weapons proliferation must be weighed very carefully.

Furthermore it is suggested that no Borg incursion go unanswered. Any Borg scout sphere or cube that eneters the Alpha or beta quadrants must be destroyed because their tactics to date suggest that they look for weakness and then apply overwhelming force.

As this is an unfoldig situation, this file will remain open.

Summary Ends.

Although the Borg continue to be a massing threat to the Federation and its allies, I would suggest that Admiral Janeway has established that negotiations are possible with the collective. While I agree with the suggestion of a militarized task force should be sent into deep space bordering with the Delta Quadrant, I would propose that my Vulcan colleague's logic is flawed. The idea of a hunter-killer group is not in keeping with Federation philosophies. We are a defensive force first, and an exploratory body above all else. I recommend redoubling our efforts to develop transwarp technology, implement the Borg enhancements introduced by the USS Voyager on all new starships while augmenting the existing fleet, and bring together our greatest diplomats and anthropologists to attempt to develop a method of reasoning with the Borg - with the hope of containing, or diminishing, the Borg threat.

[alucard1]

Find a way to watch "Endgame." It's awesome. The Janeway torpedoes are trans-phasic, from a future version of Janeway. Destruction of a cube with one torpedo is some glorious stuff. There was also armor mounted to the hull, which was awesome as well.


Not trying to derail the thread at all.. but I just wanted to say thanks for posting the name of the episode.

I was a faithful watcher of Voyager for the first 5 season, then personal crisis hit, and the rest of the series was hit and miss.

I finally got to see the end... woot...

For any of you that may not have seen it, or just want to see it again... you can watch them on YouTube.. starting here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnvWpt8cSBU

Peace

BTW... God I loved Admiral Janeway in that... lol

[SoongType]

You're forgetting the Klingons.

"the coalition appeals to the Federation Council and the Klingon High Council to join them in seeking justice for past crimes"

I've got this strong feeling that Cardassia will be part of the Klingons and/or that this'll be the catalyst for the schism between the Federation and the Klingons.

Seems likely.Also glad to have more Path to follow!:)

[Tiberius0311]

very cool i like how this game is shaping up

[ultimadesigns]

Great stuff. IMHO...all of this should be the plot of the new movie, instead of trying to recreate the past.

[Sinson]

sweet cant wait for next report:D

[Jenkl]

Pretty neat, the range of things to come seem pretty sweet.

[Geena34Omega]

I think it will be new ship class , remember Voyager brought alot ot technolidgy from Delta quadrant.
Its database on various cutures and such so if this is in a later date then all star trek movies they have to input this data also.
"Delta flyer was pretty advanced shuttle"
Maybe the intrepid class ships get a newer version who knows.

Romulans yes, i always loved Dina meyer in nemesis, finally a Romulan women with balls.

[Spike116]

How the hell is Spock still alive?! Its been more than 200 years by now.

He is Vulcan they live long -_-

[Calid]

Very cool,

It's nice to get a run down of events and how they will lead us into the future.

[FrankieDoo]

What about Riker and the Titan?

[captaindawson]

What about Riker and the Titan?

hopefully rikers 'i know it all' attitude and his 'ive got be involved or il sulk' became his undoing, and got kicked out of starfleet or prehapes gets lost in transport or even better he just gets ranked right down to einsign. sorry worst character ever, always had to be down picards neck. when you watch TNG next any episode cause he does it all the time, every time picard stood up and walked toward the helm riker was on him like he loved him every time picard straigtens out his space suit what does riker do gggggrrrrrrrrr. sorry completely of topic but just had ta let it of my chest

[rikeromega]

Picard was his mentor. He wasn't trying to "love" him...he was trying to learn from him. And keep in mind it is the responsibility of the First Officer to protect and support his Captain.

[WinterPark1701]

I liked it overall but its hard to belive that Dr. Crusher who's always been atleast some what career minded would go back to the Entperise-E after being at Starfleet Medical, its kind of a step backwards and would also mean she'd be removeing any possibilty of her getting a promotion to Capt.


That and head of Stafleet Medical seems like the kind of job that would come with a promotion to Captain any way.

[Will_Lucky]

I liked it overall but its hard to belive that Dr. Crusher who's always been atleast some what career minded would go back to the Entperise-E after being at Starfleet Medical, its kind of a step backwards and would also mean she'd be removeing any possibilty of her getting a promotion to Capt.


That and head of Stafleet Medical seems like the kind of job that would come with a promotion to Captain any way.

In the TNG Novel series she holds the position for a short time and cures a plague on a planet but returns to the Enterprise to be with Picard.