Flagship

[bradley1701]

One thing I have always found frustrating with MMO's and factions is trying to figure out who is the leader or what the standing of different members are in both friendly and non-friendly factions/guilds/societies/etc.

I would like to see STO have a way of identifying a faction leader's starship as the flagship of their faction.

This way, if you are a new player seeking out a faction or if you are within a faction seeking diplomatic ties, it is easier to identify who to go to...as well, it would be more beneficial in fleet pvp to have that visible command structure.

Thoughts?

[trooper6152]

For roleplay and PvE, I would agree, however, in PvP that would just be putting a big target on your fleet commander pretty much saying "Fleet Commander here, please shoot me"

...as well, it would be more beneficial in fleet pvp to have that visible command structure.

Thoughts?

[ajaco3025]

For roleplay and PvE, I would agree, however, in PvP that would just be putting a big target on your fleet commander pretty much saying "Fleet Commander here, please shoot me"

I agree. Besides, when in PvP, the "Fleet Leader" or Admiral is not always the most qualified to lead a fleet into battle. The Fleet "Leader" may be a pver where another member in the fleet has more experience of being an actual Fleet Commander (FC).

If I were leading a Fleet to battle, I wouldn't want that big target on my bow.

Leading a fleet into battle is not the same as being the leader of a "Fleet/Guild/Clan".

[Azurian]

Unless it's changed, the Federation's Flagship is still the Enterprise-E. And obviously players aren't going to be captaining her.

Now if you are refering to the flagship of fleets, then anyone who is leading that fleet is in the flagship.

[DanSeale]

IMO .. the best way to do that would be to list the player name above the toon or ship with the name of the group that they represent or are a part of in parentheses below or next to the name.

ieCapt Ol Buzzard .. UFP "Fleet XYZ"

just a suggestion

[ThosaH]

good idea, but only if it's one sided... i wouldn't want to know the opposing side's flagship... well, i wouldn't want the GAME to tell me which it was... if i happened to know because of my superior espianage skills, that's another matter. so i think it should be a friendly only thing.

[bradley1701]

good idea, but only if it's one sided... i wouldn't want to know the opposing side's flagship... well, i wouldn't want the GAME to tell me which it was... if i happened to know because of my superior espianage skills, that's another matter. so i think it should be a friendly only thing.

Agreed...I guess my other idea on having identifiable faction flagships (one-sided as you mention) would be to show off your ship.

Like the Enterprise being the flagship of Starfleet...the flagship is the pride of the fleet, advanced, something to show off, something to be scared of, etc. Even if it isn't the leader of the fleet, it would be good to make one ship in the faction the flagship...especially if it's a ship of the line or something just so that factions can say....hey, look at our beautiful flagship, we built this!

[TruthSeer]

I think this is a cool idea, maybe when doing group/fleet missions/pvp the flagship could give the fleet some kind of bonus.

[InSin]

I think that historically an Admiral would fly his flag while aboard/in command of a ship. So why not have a "flag" of some sort for a fleets "Flagship". This "flag" could be similar to a buddy icon on AIM, any image you want that meets certain resolution/size criteria. While it would definatley put a target on the flagship, it could also make a would be aggressor a bit hesitant. Think about it, you're fighting a couple of ships in an even match, what's going to worry you more; another ship warping in or the flagship warping in. Generally, the best ship of the fleet is the flagship. Think in ST, the Enterprise(s). In history, Bismark, Yamamoto, Arizona, Iowa and on and on. So maybe in addition the flagship of a clan should gain performance bonuses based on the size of the clan. Meaning a flagship of a clan of 5 would be more dangerous than an identical standard model. But at the same time a flagship for a clan of 20 would dwarf the other flagship. Kind of adds a balance right?

[Trekkie]

Even though this is a relatively minor issue, I definitely think that it would be a convenient feature and I would really like to see it in the game.

[LordDave]

Faction? Flagship? I don't understand the question.

There are two Factions: Federation and the Klingon Empire.
The Federation's Flagship is, most likely, the USS Enterprise - F.
The Klingon Flagship is, most likely Quo'Nos #

Neither ship is player used.


Now if you mean fleet flagships, then that's another story. I suppose it's something that only the people in the fleet would know rather then anyone else. Unless it's chosen to be made known to all non-fleet people.

[bradley1701]

Faction? Flagship? I don't understand the question.

There are two Factions: Federation and the Klingon Empire.
The Federation's Flagship is, most likely, the USS Enterprise - F.
The Klingon Flagship is, most likely Quo'Nos #

Neither ship is player used.


Now if you mean fleet flagships, then that's another story. I suppose it's something that only the people in the fleet would know rather then anyone else. Unless it's chosen to be made known to all non-fleet people.

I meant individual fleets...so say my fleet, Stonewall Fleet has their own flagship and your fleet has it's own flagship...I should have specified fleet instead of faction, but if you read through the discussion you should be able to understand what is being discussed.

[DanSeale]

I meant individual fleets...so say my fleet, Stonewall Fleet has their own flagship and your fleet has it's own flagship...I should have specified fleet instead of faction, but if you read through the discussion you should be able to understand what is being discussed.

Yup .. you could have as many as 6 different fleets in one area (from differently guilds as an example) .. or from PUGS. The "CO" of that guild, fleet (PUG) would more than likely be the "flag" ship of that group. IMHO the senior ranking office does NOT have to be the CO of that fleet (although frequently it probably would). The "CO" would "probably" be closer to or similar to the "group captain" or perhaps the one wearing the crown in other MMO groups.

Please note: If I'm off base on what Bradley had in mind feel free to make what ever corrections are needed.

[vp21ct]

Read this:

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=177752&postcount=233

Covers pretty much everything you guys are talking about.

At the moment, it needs pruning, do so on that thread if you want to.

[bradley1701]

Read this:

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=177752&postcount=233

Covers pretty much everything you guys are talking about.

At the moment, it needs pruning, do so on that thread if you want to.

VP, is your ship class actually called Sovering or did you mean the same class as the Enterprise E, a Sovereign class?

[cocoa-jin]

Unless it's changed, the Federation's Flagship is still the Enterprise-E. And obviously players aren't going to be captaining her.

Now if you are refering to the flagship of fleets, then anyone who is leading that fleet is in the flagship.

Thank you for saying that...even a frigate can be a flagship if the Admiral leading the fleet is on it....though that Frigate would have to have some pretty bad a*s accomidations or something that really gives the Admiral a desire to be on it...like a new Fed cloak or something.

[vp21ct]

VP, is your ship class actually called Sovering or did you mean the same class as the Enterprise E, a Sovereign class?

class is soverign, name is Gorkon